Lumix S1H - 120fps/144fps/180fps SLOW MOTION Tests & the WORST part of shooting V-LOG...

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4 жыл бұрын

In this video I ran through a bunch of the variable frame rates and slow motion settings on the Panasonic S1H to see how the 4:2:0 8-bit codec held up and to see which picture profile gave me the best results under the circumstances. This was not a scientific test by any means, so take it for what it is.
Let me know if you've found other picture profile settings that work well in these modes -and feel free to check out the little cooking show at the end of this video that was made with some of the test footage I shot.
Shout out to Rockbottom (IG: @rkbtm_mtl) and Eric Martinez (IG: @welding.martinez).
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@rodvisionfilms 3 жыл бұрын

For the noise, this is normal in Log images, and comes down to how you expose it. In general, if you're not measuring off a grey card overexpose (don't clip your highlights, of course) and then when you underexpose in post, you'll lose the noise. Even if you're seeing noise when properly exposed, that'll be in the shadows, and once you stretch your shadows down dark, it should disappear. Finally if you are exposing off a grey card and you're still seeing noise where you don't want it, again, overexpose, and then drop it in post, and your noise will go with it. This is part of shooting Log.

@JedDobre 4 жыл бұрын

Ayy, this is sick! Just picked up an S1H & 24-70 2.8 so keen to get cracking! Keep up the nice work! Recipe at the end was 👌🏽👌🏽

@AlexLopez-iy4by 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for great demo and Taco recipe. Rockbottom commercial footage looks great.

@alanbesedin 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing footage, especially the second commercial! Not using any log setting for an 8bit footage indeed makes a perfect sense. As an S1H owner I'll definitely be taking a note of that. P.S. loved the music in the first one, it had that Jon Hopkins - "abandoned window" feel

@LifewithDusty 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Amazing welding shots ! Subscribed. Just got this camera 🔥

@Aidan_Davis 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting takeaways, and nice b-roll packages.

@TylerHansenVideo 4 жыл бұрын

Gorgeous footage here

@LifewithDusty Жыл бұрын

This is so helpful

@GeoffTurgen 3 жыл бұрын

That intro was clean bro !!!

@BryanWilkat 3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

@ryansulak 3 жыл бұрын

for some reason, reading the specs on BH photo, i thought the S1H could only go up to 120fps in full hd, how are you getting it to 180fps and in 4k?

@amthemusic7632 3 жыл бұрын

I came back to this I wonder if the sweat spot is Cine D for retaining the image

@themagicallandscape 3 жыл бұрын

Geez, the footage is so clean! I hope you pick up an S5 and make some tutorials for noobs like me, haha. Just got one bc the S series IQ made me curious and it's the least intuitive camera I've used. I think there's an opportunity to grow via the S5 niche. Keep the videos coming!

@BryanWilkat 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Sorry no plans to grab the S5, but I'm sure there's a lot of similarities in the menu's and features between all the S line.

@MarcyMoe 4 жыл бұрын

i like ur stuff!

@panayiotischrysostomou5060 4 жыл бұрын

What sort of lenses did you use for this video? Thx for the things you shared here for profiles and different fps, keep it up!

@BryanWilkat 4 жыл бұрын

Mainly the Tamron 24-70 G2 and the Canon 100mm Macro 2.8 IS L!

@Joshua-iz1go 3 жыл бұрын

I'm not too savvy on this, but would it be possible to get cleaner footage at high frame rate using an external recorder? Would that mitigate the 8bit log noise problem?

@SkorpoTv 3 жыл бұрын

I ❤️ the sound score where'd you get the track?

@mageefilms 3 жыл бұрын

Nice presentation - however, I would have loved to see faster subjects that are ideal for slow motion - water, sports, falling objects, etc.

@0Amaretto0 4 жыл бұрын

Can you please tell me what the song at 1:20 is called?

@Pierraxl 3 жыл бұрын

How do you achieve that, when i record i get noise in slow mo....

@itsmebrotherkc 4 жыл бұрын

So would you reccomend using the natural profile to get the best hfr low light video? Great video btw! Subbed absolutely

@BryanWilkat 4 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah man, definitely. The Natural profile if you turn the Noise Reduction all the way down, has gotten me the best low light video footage so far. I've shot stuff at 4000iso or higher than looks soooo clean with the Natural profile!

@alanalgee 4 жыл бұрын

Crazy Clean! Question about ISO. Did you find a sweet spot in it Iso range shooting at such high speeds?

@BryanWilkat 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah man, because of the dual native ISO, if you need more than 1600iso I suggest it's better to bump up to 4000iso and then close down your f-stop to compensate. You can see this easily yourself if you scroll through all the ISO's with a lens cap on, you'll see the noise get progressively more noticeable and then when you hit 4000iso it's clean again, as if you were shooting in the hundreds.

@mathishomerunhub 4 жыл бұрын

nice nice nice nice video! can you share the panasonic nicest lut

@itsjantore 3 жыл бұрын

Not bad man, good to know that shooting non-log is a good alternative when light is sparse.

@BryanWilkat 3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, pretty much any time I have to shoot 120fps (or higher, on other cameras like Sony's), I always turn off Log because the higher number of frames per second needs a higher bitrate to maintain the same image quality you expect to see at 24/30fps. Unfortunately, that's the trade off when you buy a

@neilseiffer 8 ай бұрын

I have firmware version 2.6 (now in year 2023). I do nor see any option to film 120fps, 144 or 180 fps in full frame at 4K. Only 119.88fps at 1080p. What firm ware version are you using?

@deelofilms 4 жыл бұрын

hey there! fellow S1H owner. I also filmed welding + grinding, but at 60fps/4k; accidentally filmed in Standard Color (instead of using VLOG) Still learning how to use the VFR modes.. nice video!

@jasonnowwhat5041 4 жыл бұрын

Any thoughts or feedback on shooting lowlight in the higher resolutions at 24p? Just curious if vlog is the preferred low light profile when the footage is slowed down and of higher resolution and bit depth, or if vlog should only be used with this camera in daylight/good light scenarios. Thanks

@BryanWilkat 4 жыл бұрын

Log profiles are notoriously noisy, I personally don't use them for extreme low light scenarios on any camera. They always look the best in controlled lighting situations (like on a set, where you're using lights so you can set the exposure you want) or if you're shooting outside. For low light on this particular camera, I really like the Natural profile or the Cine D profiles. I also recommend that if people use profiles other than Vlog on this camera, to manually turn down the noise in the PP setting because when it's at the default setting of 0, it's adding an in-camera noise removal that will give you soft, muddy looking footage when you crank your ISO up.

@SkorpoTv Жыл бұрын

@@BryanWilkat what is the PP setting ?

@ohshowproductionsllc 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Bryan, every time I try to shoot 120fps or higher on s1H I get lots of noise, and forget about Vlog and VFR, tons of noise, how did you get that nice picture without the noise? Thanks for sharing!

@BryanWilkat 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry for the super late reply, did you figure it out? I tend to stick near the native ISO's, so 640 ISO and lower. If I need to push my ISO higher than 1000, I'll skip all the increments and jump right to 4000 which is the other native ISO. At 4000 any noise you had will completely disappear and it'll be as clean as it was at 640 ISO. Hope that helps!

@ohshowproductionsllc 3 жыл бұрын

@@BryanWilkat Hi Bryan, I'm finding I'm getting lot of light flickering shooting at 180fps, using a Godox SL200w led light box. What lens were you shooting with? Your footage looks great, even at 180, what is your secret? Thanks!

@Leethor 4 жыл бұрын

Hahaha thanks for the recipe!

@organismx 4 жыл бұрын

Cool , what Lens did you use for the Blacksmith scene ?

@BryanWilkat 4 жыл бұрын

Most of it was the Tamron 24-70 G2 and a couple shots were on the Canon 100mm 2.8 L IS Macro.

@organismx 4 жыл бұрын

Cool

@jcave08 4 жыл бұрын

Hey man , on last thing ... how do you like this camera ?

@jasonnowwhat5041 4 жыл бұрын

Curious, doesn’t the s1h offer 10-bit 422 in 1080 120fps? Why not us that for v-log? Beautiful footage either way man!

@BryanWilkat 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! No, I wish there was a slightly richer codec but sadly the highest codec in 120fps is 4:2:0 10-bit Long GOP and you have to conform it in post -otherwise there's a 120fps variable frame rate option that shoots 4:2:0 8-bit and conforms it in-camera but there's no audio recorded in that mode and the compression is much more detrimental to the image. (FYI there's also a super 35 crop in 120fps modes) There was a new firmware update (2.0) that supposedly fixed some Vlog banding but from my initial tests, there's still some image issues that they need to address on this camera.

@jasonnowwhat5041 4 жыл бұрын

Bryan Wilkat and so I’m clear, which 120fps option did you use in this video? Thanks for replying, just trying to get my settings straight!

@amthemusic7632 4 жыл бұрын

Hey can you elaborate more on what happens after 144FPS. I was intrigued. You said it’s crops?

@BryanWilkat 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah up to 144fps it's full frame. After that it crops to like a Super 35mm frame. Still really nice but from 144-180fps you really need to make sure you have a LOT of light!

@amthemusic7632 4 жыл бұрын

Bryan Wilkat good pro tip! I mean the fact that you can go past 120 not cropped is pretty nice. Do you think this camera will update to 120 4K. Panasonic always takes their time with powerful updates!

@Exploredinary 3 жыл бұрын

AMTHEMUSIC I hope they do update to 120 4K! That would be amazing! Being tempted by the A7Siii right now and I really want to stick to my S1H!

@InvisageStudios 4 жыл бұрын

This is ridiculously clean compared to my tests on the original firmware. Mine was unusable and it was shot in full sun. GH5s was far cleaner. I did, however, have a dud body which was returned to Panasonic and they sent it to Japan for investigation.

@BryanWilkat 4 жыл бұрын

Whoa that's crazy! Did they send you another one or are you still waiting for a repair?

@InvisageStudios 4 жыл бұрын

@@BryanWilkat They sent me a new body and that too was defective. I then decided on a refund until they can work it out - Many users are experiencing very significant issues like data corruption etc so there's something wrong. I'm waiting till ProRes RAW drops and then I'll be back on the S1H wagon as I really believe that'll be a brilliant combo. Really looking forward to it.

@wiggediwigga 4 жыл бұрын

Invisage Studios have two s1h since day one and shot a hole bunch with them, no issues what so ever!

@sasha.novakovic 4 жыл бұрын

Was lead to believe the S1h can shoot 120p full frame 10bit 1080p? Is that true?

@ChadVader143 3 жыл бұрын

Yes it can! It grades really well actually!

@MrEchyballs 4 жыл бұрын

u dont really know bro we actually want 8 hours video lol

@honorabledre 3 жыл бұрын

He’s right

@LifewithDusty Жыл бұрын

Hey let’s collaborate

@carriagel8773 3 жыл бұрын

To get the best results is only one way.. to use 4k 50/60 fps 10 bit, or 1080p in 100/120 fps in 10 bit 4:2:0.. So stop use VFR 8 bit.

@andrewmcdannielrobles 3 жыл бұрын

Hey there I have been seeing on KZfaq that some people film in 120 FPS in 10bit 4:2:0 but I cannot find it at all on my S1h I been looking for a whole day !

@Joshua-iz1go 3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewmcdannielrobles i dont own the cam, but the spec sheet says you can only do 120 1080 in full or super35mm MOV (as opposed to mp4, etc.) Also it is Long Gop, and HEVC (not h.264) Don't know if that helps narrow it in menus

@wtfkurtis 4 жыл бұрын

You gotta stop the madness with trying to get the perfect pic since CMOS is the worst tech the camera industry went to instead of the CCD sensors which had less noise overall. Get help.