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Luxury Watches I Rejected

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There are luxury watches I just cannot buy. Patek Philippe's 5016, for example, is the apple of my eye and a watch I cannot buy. Price is the problem. After discovering the 5016 firsthand during the spring of 2017, I was confident that I'd found the ultimate watch. This Patek Philippe and other watches are featured tonight in an episode all about the watches I can't buy!
More than any Patek Philippe Nautilus or Rolex Daytona, the unassuming 36mm Patek 5016 is a watch I simply cannot afford. Produced in roughly 200 examples between 1993 and 2010, the Patek Philippe 5016
is no secret; one example in stainless steel briefly became the most expensive watch ever sold in 2015. Paying over seven million dollars for a 5016 isn't necessary, but paying close to $1 million definitely is. In either case, this is a watch I cannot afford.
Why is the 5016 such a desirable Patek Philippe watch? It's not just the rarity; this is a masterpiece. First, there's the minute repeater. A minute repeating Patek Philippe is like a V12 Ferrari - it cuts to the core of the brand's identity. Jean-Pierre Hagmann's famous Patek Philippe case with integral repeater slide is a fundamental part of the 5016's appeal. And the tonal quality of the repeater chimes is peerless.
Any perpetual calendar is special, but the Patek Philippe 5016 adds a retrograde date display for additional dynamism. There's a moonphase that requires only one correction every 122 years. And the calendar itself need not be reset until the year 2100. All leap years, odd months, and quirks of the Gregorian calendar are handled until the next century.
Tourbillon regulators are not considered "complications" by many watch collectors, but they certainly complicate a watch. The rotating tourbillon carriage of the 5016 makes a single circuit every minute, and it's driven by an extraordinary 14-karat gold third wheel. Each 5016 tourbillon has a free-sprung Gyromax architecture and an overcoil hairspring for more precise timekeeping. For good measure, and to prove its timekeeping accuracy, the caliber R TO 27 PS QR has been submitted to the COSC for chronometer certification. Sure, you can get that on a Mido, but few haute horlogerie brands subject their flagship watches to the rigors of the COSC test - many simply wouldn't pass! Patek Philippe had no such fears concerning the 5016.
To Tim Mosso, the Patek Philippe 5016 remains the ultimate watch - with the ultimate price. As a result, it's on his list of watches he'll never buy. See it and all the rest on tonight's show!
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@thierrymoeurs754
@thierrymoeurs754 Ай бұрын
Hi Tim, This GP Neo Constant Escapement is just incredible.
@benshnall9009
@benshnall9009 Ай бұрын
This was a fun one. Thanks Tim and team!
@saml4537
@saml4537 Ай бұрын
I'm a big guy who would love to wear elegant smaller watches. Sadly anything smaller than 44mm looks out of proportion on my large wrists. Larger watches seem to get a bad rap these days, which is a shame. Now I'm getting older, I find larger dials much easier to read too.
@TiCkLZ
@TiCkLZ Ай бұрын
Same!
@mikemurphy8996
@mikemurphy8996 Ай бұрын
That’s sad to hear. Most 44mm watches are not very nice. I have a 7.5 wrist and I love wearing vintage Omega. Most of them are small
@merc7paul
@merc7paul Ай бұрын
Depends on the l2l
@bradg.5253
@bradg.5253 Ай бұрын
The VC Overseas tourbillion broke my heart as it was slightly too large.
@brandonwebb1254
@brandonwebb1254 Ай бұрын
Great show as always Tim!👍
@AbdulRWatches
@AbdulRWatches Ай бұрын
Great show as usual from Tim and crew, missed the live 😑 I am always limited to 36-42mm range, while I tend to like more smaller watches. I definitely like one or two watches that were too large for me. The only one that I got was the MAD1 buy I think the idea of the watch is to stand out on the wrist.
@the1916company
@the1916company Ай бұрын
I think that's a true assessment. The MAD 1 isn't supposed to be compact or classically proportioned. In this case, prominence is good. Best, Tim
@JamesCarian
@JamesCarian Ай бұрын
Tim, Awesome show with some really off the beaten path pieces. Not sure if you've done this, but would you consider an episode where you dive deeper into the mechanics of some of the things you called out in the watches on tonight's show? Fusee & chain, remontoir, constant force, etc. I'd love to understand more about how some of these things work, and also believe it would create a greater appreciation for some of the watches you feature from time to time! Thanks as always.
@PT-xx9jz
@PT-xx9jz Ай бұрын
Thank you Tim & team. Kindly. PT.
@Horascope8
@Horascope8 Ай бұрын
Hi Tim,the Porsche Indicator chronograph has a 10 hour digital indicator not 10 minutes. Big watch but built to wear over a racing suit for 10 hour laps.
@jjpthe2
@jjpthe2 Ай бұрын
Bravo Tim! believe it or not my SuperOcean Heritage is feeling too big lately. Likely a trade
@scottjeffries6826
@scottjeffries6826 Ай бұрын
Great show as usual!
@amintaslneto
@amintaslneto Ай бұрын
OMG! Couldn't agree more with you on the Patek 5016, Tim!! Amazing pic💗 I'm afraid it's prohibitive for me too😃Best, Amintas
@michaelh8275
@michaelh8275 Ай бұрын
Hi Tim... I missed the bit about the "Rolex" issue, what is it?
@tockingwatches2377
@tockingwatches2377 Ай бұрын
I bought the 42mm JLC Polaris Chronograph earlier this year. I’ve gradually been moving toward more traditional, non-all-wrist watches and realized it was too large for my 7” wrist. I replaced it with the 38mm Cartier Pasha Seatimer Chronograph Millennium.
@herbmerced7780
@herbmerced7780 Ай бұрын
I always look forward to the Monday show…sadly due to work cannot attend live!
@donculp9094
@donculp9094 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the reply Tim. If you love the watch wear it anyway. Also as you lnow, some of these large watches are intended to be worn over cuff (racing)or wet suit.
@logwind
@logwind Ай бұрын
great show.
@iphoie
@iphoie Ай бұрын
There’s a 42mm Bronzo version no?
@donculp9094
@donculp9094 Ай бұрын
I love my Breguet Marine Royale but It's size pushes the limits of my wrist. I would wear it if my wrist was smaller.
@the1916company
@the1916company Ай бұрын
That's a beast of a watch. I couldn't even come close to making it work. Best, Tim
@Theo-ul8qm
@Theo-ul8qm Ай бұрын
I've tried on a Bronzo myself not too long ago. I didn't even need to put it on, I could tell it was too large. I'd never seen a 47mm Panerai before, I was shocked how big it was in person. The height adds to the impression of size too.
@masterwatch
@masterwatch 29 күн бұрын
some super super watches here...
@dr.kevinmoore8889
@dr.kevinmoore8889 Ай бұрын
I am 5'6" 175 mostly muscle. Wrist is 16.25cm. I rock my 45mm Hublot Aerofusion Gold Chronograph like nobody's business.
@AW-qm6tp
@AW-qm6tp 16 күн бұрын
Omega, put the 3861 or 9906 in the Grey Side of the Moon! It’s too thick! The moment they do that, I’d buy it.
@BijuuSusanoo
@BijuuSusanoo Ай бұрын
Great show Tim! Have you had a hands-on with the latest Neo Constant Escapement released last year? If so, do you have any thoughts on it?
@MartlRS
@MartlRS Ай бұрын
Hublot Meca-10 in Blue ceramic. Always loved them but too wide on the wrist. And the JLC Extreme Lab 2.
@briteppr62
@briteppr62 Ай бұрын
Tim, I love this look on you, you’re looking svelt my man! What’s that on your wrist? ✌🏻
@TrueUniform
@TrueUniform Ай бұрын
Owned a Zenith Revival Shadow and couldn't get past the odd shape of the case. It was also pretty much illegible.
@the1916company
@the1916company Ай бұрын
Shape is an important consideration. It's something I should mention in a future show. Best, Tim
@juniorjohnson5961
@juniorjohnson5961 Ай бұрын
Missed the show rewatching now 👍
@gerardocortes5943
@gerardocortes5943 Ай бұрын
If R. doesn't let you discuss its brand because of a certain project you are doing with then, then it surely means the proyect is going great 😉
@Theo-ul8qm
@Theo-ul8qm Ай бұрын
This episode included a lot of talk on watch size. Tim often says 'big is the look'. I think the function of a watch should also be taken into account when discussing size. For instance, if you are actually a military diver wearing a Panerai, than you certainly don't care about the watch looking too big on you, you just care about it being legible. Same thing goes for pilots and pilot's watches. If you wore a thick coat and gloves hiking somewhere, and you wore a 36mm datejust, you'd be right to say it's too small because you couldn't read it, even though it might 'look' right on your wrist in other circumstances. So I think we need to take our surroundings into account when we choose out watches. In an office, in my view, a 47mm Panerai just looks out of place, no matter how big your wrist might be. Fighting on a battlefied somewhere in a warzone, a 36mm datejust will be out of place. It's about context as much as it is about wrist size.
@Marko_Horvat
@Marko_Horvat Ай бұрын
So , who manufactures watches for Porsche Design now, since it sold Eterna in 2011?
@whodat9198
@whodat9198 Ай бұрын
Wait a sec, you have a problem with IWC, but not Panerai or Porsche?? Make it make sense Tim.
@localheroEd
@localheroEd Ай бұрын
I’m cursed with good looks instead of wealth and a large wrist, limiting my watch purchase options. Smaller does mean thinner usually
@almeladze
@almeladze Ай бұрын
Big pilot is too big for me
@the1916company
@the1916company Ай бұрын
You and me, both! Best, Tim
@JoeCC0087
@JoeCC0087 Ай бұрын
This is the first time I’ve seen Tim muzzled, and I don’t like it.
@andrewdavid9333
@andrewdavid9333 Ай бұрын
The move to certified pre owned has messed up their previous reasonable website as well, that and rebranding has left them lesser than before
@JoeCC0087
@JoeCC0087 Ай бұрын
@@andrewdavid9333 #freetimmosso
@sayeedrahman7800
@sayeedrahman7800 Ай бұрын
a few extra pounds and you would resemble Josh hart net
@throwingdartsandbreakinghearts
@throwingdartsandbreakinghearts Ай бұрын
I've been a fan of this channel for 7+ years. So you've sold your soul to Rolex? Shame on you. I'm out. No integrity anymore
@torontowatches9709
@torontowatches9709 Ай бұрын
Huge fan of the channel hate the new name, watchbox sounded fun 1916 company means FK all
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