m/26 Suomi: Aimo Lahti's First Production Design

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@leonardwei3914 2 жыл бұрын

Ian's hushed manner makes me think he broke into the back storage room during his visit to Sako to bring us this rare piece of firearm memorabilia.

@gilmour6754 2 жыл бұрын

"Don't tell Sako, but I'm in their base reviewing all their guns"

@mhh7544 2 жыл бұрын

😅

@E5rael 2 жыл бұрын

I keep wondering why he is so silent in these Sako vids.

@ScottKenny1978 2 жыл бұрын

Who's to say he didn't? 🤣

@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 2 жыл бұрын

Gun Jesus doesn't have to break in. All armory doors open for him.

@JohnnyLouisXIX 2 жыл бұрын

Another feature is that you can use the magazine as a Boomerang against the enemy.

@jesustyronechrist2330 2 жыл бұрын

The Finnish army appropriating the Australian spec ops tactics

@JohnSmith-yv6eq 2 жыл бұрын

There's even a song for when it fails to return to sender... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ldaip8WbmbPYdIk.html

@mhh7544 2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@dwaneanderson8039 2 жыл бұрын

Just be careful when you throw it. It might come back around and hit you in the head.

@k4000 2 жыл бұрын

theyve got curved mags. curved. mags.

@robberrubber9851 2 жыл бұрын

We got a skyrim fan over here

@gingergorilla695 2 жыл бұрын

So many curves, curves on curves

@Thej611 2 жыл бұрын

Weird that this is the first comment I see. I just finished playing some Skyrim 😂😂

@AdaptiveApeHybrid 2 жыл бұрын

Bloody milk drinkers

@druidofthefang 2 жыл бұрын

Damn someone got shot in the knee with a Suomi

@mileslong3904 2 жыл бұрын

Scale it down to keychain size and you'd have a cool bottle opener.

@howey935 2 жыл бұрын

Or find some fucking huge bottles 😂😂😂

@littleseal833 2 жыл бұрын

6:10 , the Forbidden Finnish Winter Banana

@ValWasTakenWasTaken 2 жыл бұрын

6:34 That wood on the M31 👌

@seanflorian4653 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly for shooting prone in the Finnish snow, that curved mag probably works out well

@Forbiddina 2 жыл бұрын

Lol, who needs a monopod when you have your mag 🤪

@travishabursky4362 2 жыл бұрын

I just keep thinking of how funky those mag pouches would be.

@lightweight1974 2 жыл бұрын

@@travishabursky4362 Maybe no mag pouch. Just hook 5 or 6 together at the top in a bunch...just like bananas... hang 'em from your belt. Pull one off each time you need it.

@travishabursky4362 2 жыл бұрын

@@lightweight1974 I don’t see how they could do it otherwise. The shape is too unorthodox to easily make conventional webbing for them, and Finland isn’t exactly well known for their high industrial output.

@nejtro 2 жыл бұрын

@@travishabursky4362 who needs webbing when you have breadbags to throw your mags and grenades in.

@internetexplorer1057 2 жыл бұрын

5:26 As a Finn I can definitely confirm you did not indeed pronounce "Konepistooli Osakeyhtiö" correctly. In fact it was beautifully butchered.

@Deuzen_FIN 2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, the pronunciation of "Konepistooli" was great.

@brnddi 2 жыл бұрын

For future reference, Y in Finnish is a vowel that's pronounced basically the same as the ü in the German word über.

@vastenmielinen0 2 жыл бұрын

Somehow "osakeyhtiö" sounded like exaggerated japanese word, but points for trying.

@internetexplorer1057 2 жыл бұрын

@@Deuzen_FIN yeah true. that was otherwise pretty damn good I have to admit but he added an "s" in between the words kone and pistooli so I have to take points off of that.

@MrMedalice 2 жыл бұрын

@@vastenmielinen0 100% Japanese.

@ajhoward8888 2 жыл бұрын

Hard to believe that the Suomi actually got less steampunk as time went on.

@jonathansmith6050 2 жыл бұрын

Neat how the back of the bolt is the gas piston for that air pressure rate reduction idea. (A little surprised you didn't specifically point the piston rings back there)

@krissteel4074 2 жыл бұрын

Its a cool bit of work for an early SMG, the charging handle is neat in that it would mean less holes in the main tube for stuff to find its way in (don't mud test it!) and there's some interesting thought going into the rate reducer. Some decent take down for maintenance and replacement is cool to see and for an SMG bolt, that's quite a bit of elegant machining. I can feel a bionic thumb being needed to load the big banana mag though!

@Tunkkis 2 жыл бұрын

The enclosed receiver was designed that way do that it's function wouldn't be impeded by corrosive combat gasses, though I'm sure resistance against mud was also a factor..

@bbqsauce8854 2 жыл бұрын

The Suomi charging handle is not like an AR, an AR’s charging handle is like a Suomis…

@williamlloyd3769 2 жыл бұрын

FYI. Thumbs up feature error message. Very interesting video .

@jakeb9188 2 жыл бұрын

Yes same here

@openhueblue6661 2 жыл бұрын

This channel is a blessing. The gift of knowledge has profoundly impacted the trajectory of my life. thank you Ian

@blackore64 2 жыл бұрын

The Reason for 7.65mm Luger cartridge is the fact that Finnish army had purchased lot of German Lugers in this caliber, not necessarily because of preference for the cartridge, but because of the limitations imposed by the theary of Versailles on manufacturing weapons in 9mm Parabellum.

@XxX_KeithMason69_XxX 2 жыл бұрын

I never thought in a million years you'll covered m/26. One of the earliest system with an air buffer reducer. The Nambu experimental SMGs (T1A, T1B, TII) had a similar system. I don't know how good a air buffer reducer would work in 8mm, maybe since it didn't go beyond the prototype stage I assuming it didn't work. Then the Type III which is a basic blowback operated SMG, eventually became the Type 100 SMG.

@robpotatoesversion2109 2 жыл бұрын

That magazine is the most strange looking mag I've ever seen

@johnnyappleseed6415 2 жыл бұрын

Chauchat - Hold ma wine...

@AshleyPomeroy 2 жыл бұрын

There's a 100-round magazine for the RPK that curves all the way around and clips into the front sight block. It looks like it should have little wheels on it.

@JensTX 2 жыл бұрын

this looks like someone took a kp/31 and a Nambu type 2/chauchat and mashed them together to create this

@Jay-mv7xv 2 жыл бұрын

More great content! Thanks Ian!

@Yupppi 2 жыл бұрын

What a lovely tiger stripe sort of flame pattern in that M31 stock! If it was a guitar, you'd have to pay nice extra for that wood cap.

@pouncepounce7417 2 жыл бұрын

flame birch, high priced wood

@Tunkkis 2 жыл бұрын

@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine It is rather strong wood.

@MaamyyraGaming 2 жыл бұрын

That "Konepistooli" was surprisingly well pronounced. Just few more Suomi-smg videos and Ian speaks flawless finnish.

@SomethingEls 2 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed this video a lot! I love seeing how thoughtful the design is, because there are very nice features on paper. Like the safety on the bolt, which might be expensive but is a good practice and the whole gas(air?) recoil/fire rate thing, which just imagine how good it would be if it did work well...

@someoneelse4492 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome to hear about. Thankyou Ian

@lordnevetsz 2 жыл бұрын

What i love about this youtube channel is that i learn something new every time.

@chellybub 2 жыл бұрын

Have you seen the unknown soldier (tuntematon sotilas)? It's such a great film, the book is better like always, but I really enjoyed the modern remake of the film, 2017 I believe. I suggest it to anyone interested in Finnish military history. It's obviously not based on a true story, but there are a lot of accurate details. The books goes into a lot more detail of Finnish culture though. I dunno about now, but it was required reading when my father in law was in school. I read it on his suggestion and I really enjoyed it, I learned a lot about the Finnish culture from the book and the Film.

@ForgottenWeapons 2 жыл бұрын

I have seen it, and really enjoyed it.

@akinma 2 жыл бұрын

Many of the characters in the book are based on real persons and at least some of the events in the book are based on true events of what the writer Väinö Linna experienced in the continuation war or heard when serving in the Jääkärirykmentti 8, JR8 (Jaeger Regiment 8) and as a drill instructor during the war. For example junior sergeant Antero "Antti" Rokka was based on junior sergeant Viljam Pylkäs, captain Kaarna was based on captain Toivo Kärnä, private Rahikainen was based on private Kauko Rummukainen and so on. The event with the dual execution after a drumhead court-martial really happened in the Jääkärirykmentti 9, JR9 (Jaeger Regiment 9) and there are also other events that are based on true events, but most have been modified at least to some extent.

@pavelsima5853 2 жыл бұрын

another of first-class videos, due to it's subject... big thanks for showing this one Ian!

@n-signia1087 2 жыл бұрын

Man it’s unfortunate that the air pressure idea failed. That would have been an amazing feature to have on a military weapon, I’d imagine. Slower fire rates for more control (longer ranged shots would be made more controllable) or high rates of fire for target rich environments. Is there a modern equivalent to this idea?

@n-signia1087 2 жыл бұрын

@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz I still find it weird that the Czech military has a VZ 58 and a ZV58 that have next to nothing in common. Thank you so much for looking into that for me, I really appreciate it.

@riddick7082 2 жыл бұрын

As always very fun to listen to you. A little extra nice when you tell the story behind Swedish, Finnish and Danish weapons and how they are constructed. I also think that it is strongly done of you that you make every effort to be able to pronounce words and names in three languages as difficult as Swedish, Finnish and Danish as correctly as possible. I am happy to be of service if I can if you ever want any help with the pronunciation, especially Swedish and Danish but also to some extent also Finnish. Or if you have other questions about Sweden, Finland and Denmark.

@Sasha7N 2 жыл бұрын

The firing pin safety and air compression-based rate limiter are Really neat. Certainly not necessary or reasonable from a production standpoint, but you can really tell Lahti was someone who thought deeply and carefully about the arms he was designing.

@75ilkka 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry, Ian, but 4:50 you're mistaken. V is safe, KT is semi auto and the gun is now set to full auto (ST). Very sure about that. Who cares anyway, but just had to point that out.

@tehomies1225 2 жыл бұрын

V=varmistettu=safe KT=kertatuli=single fire ST=sarjatuli=auto fire

@Tunkkis 2 жыл бұрын

In a different comment chain it was pointed out that the selector settings are V, YT, and KT. They'd therefore likely be Varmistettu (=safed), Yksittäistuli (=single fire), and kestotuli (=continuous fire).

@tehomies1225 2 жыл бұрын

@@Tunkkis nii totta siinähän voi olla vanhahtavat termit

@ristoalanko9281 2 жыл бұрын

The most important change from m/26 to m/31 was the front end of the bolt. In m/26 it looks like a Sten or Bergmann, in m/31 it's narrower and the receiver before the chamber has less space for the cartridge to misfeed. It's a pity that the estate of Aimo Lahti sold the first handmade Suomi prototypes to Wehrtechnisches Studiensammlung in Koblenz, Finnish Army was not interested...

@tonyneo6100 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video , very informative . Thank you.

@samsham8218 2 жыл бұрын

Suuper COOL!!!! This was AWESOME.

@hendriktonisson2915 2 жыл бұрын

This magazine reminds me of the magazine of the French Chauchat light machine gun.

@loupiscanis9449 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you , Ian . 🐺

@azking9911 2 жыл бұрын

I love this channel

@nitroraptor5316 2 жыл бұрын

This is amazing. Up until this point, I’ve only seen one very low quality photo and oddly enough, an anime drawing. Thank you Ian!

@Tunkkis 2 жыл бұрын

The Japanese seem to have a strange interest in Finland. Not to complain, of course, it is rather flattering.

@tian320i 2 жыл бұрын

The wood on the M31 is gorgeous

@saucen1785 2 жыл бұрын

Finland culture and military history is so neat. Thanks E! Been nerding out on this..great timing

@saucen1785 2 жыл бұрын

Love the guts layout

@dianapuskina3448 2 жыл бұрын

Never heard about finland culture. What do you actually mean?

@fizz576 2 жыл бұрын

Man if you where to remove the magazine and slap a telescopic sight on this thing it would fit in perfectly in Stat Wars.

@crabmansteve6844 2 жыл бұрын

"I'm Ian McCollum and no one knows I broke into this reference collection."

@matthayward7889 2 жыл бұрын

It’s like a close combat chauchat

@pavarottiaardvark3431 2 жыл бұрын

I love seeing experimental ideas like having a screw to adjust the rate of fire.

@lorax6001 2 жыл бұрын

Really interesting to see how something like a smg evolved thru the century. Besides the ergonomics, magazine shape, operating system but also the idea behind their use. Super cool gun.

@markfergerson2145 2 жыл бұрын

It's easy to see why some designs evolved while others went extinct... in hindsight. At the time I'm sure the designers of this gun knew they were on to something but had no idea how far it could go. Consider the other designs Ian has shown us from the same era that their designers thought had promise but failed miserably only to have some of their design features scavenged and built into other weapons. There was lots of competition in firearms design, lots of disagreement on tactical doctrine among military planners, lots of "solutions looking for problems", lots of might-have-beens. This channel has taught me so much of all of that. This gun has the brutal elegance of a (now) obvious standout prototype in that evolution.

@promiscuous5761 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@daviddudley1655 2 жыл бұрын

Tanks for the history lesson

@CannaCJ 2 жыл бұрын

The urge to spray that bolt assembly with brake cleaner is overwhelming.

@walterblock8272 2 жыл бұрын

What an interesting method of preventing an out of battery firing. I like the look of this gun's manufacture too, it just looks like a high quality thing with the nice machining and close fit between the wood and metal.

@Tunkkis 2 жыл бұрын

Like a reverse of the Thompson submachine gun hammer mechanism.

@StrelokTheStalker 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Ian, great video as usual. I was curious though, having searched and not found anything. Would you ever consider doing a video on all the types of vintage gun oilers? I haven't found any as of yet and think it would be fascinating personally to see as many interpretations as possible in one place.

@calvingreene90 2 жыл бұрын

I like the firing pin safety but agree for a submachine gun it is gilding the lily.

@bennythargrave 2 жыл бұрын

You know, the outline of this gun is like something a child would draw

@comiketiger 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting concepts. Thanks for sharing. God bless all here.

@mattsmustang65 2 жыл бұрын

Damn, free floated barrel and rear charging handle, pretty advanced for it day

@TalladegaNight 2 жыл бұрын

Is that a magazine or you just happy to see me?

@AllanFolm 2 жыл бұрын

Looks like it needs a thorough cleaning.

@anteshell 2 жыл бұрын

Is that your magazine or are you just happy to see me?

@issintf925 2 жыл бұрын

This magazine is a truly excellent candidate to be made into a giant curly fry extended mag

@monroetoolman 2 жыл бұрын

Ian`s genuine surprise at the guns creators not getting burned on their design and actually making a little money. lol

@SqueakiestChair 2 жыл бұрын

Took notes from the Chauchat i see

@Pleksilasi 2 жыл бұрын

Pronounciation of "Konepistooli" was pretty good, but the "Osakeyhtiö" needs a bit more practice. Great video, thank you Ian. It's so cool that you make videos of the history of finnish firearms. Yours truly - a finnish fan of your work.

@winterhavenfarmlife 2 жыл бұрын

Had anyone ever noticed Ian has a STRIKING resemblance to Dr. Arliss Loveless from Wild Wild West.

@BadBomb555 2 жыл бұрын

Oh yes, the Suomi prototype. It also had some use during WW2 as well and there are still more Suomis to come.

@dude97x 2 жыл бұрын

Now THIS is interesting! Greetings from Finland

@monkeyship74401 2 жыл бұрын

I have noticed that in several videos, like this one, the beautiful antique appears to be dirty. Do the armories not clean the items they are archiving? As always, tho, another weapon I had never seen before. " We have here a beautiful complicated prototype that has 300 million moving parts and springs. The next version has 12 moving parts and 7 of those are the cartridges in the magazine." And of course, "I want one!!!" Thank you again for your wonderful content.

@jimyeats 2 жыл бұрын

Part of its history.

@dwaneanderson8039 2 жыл бұрын

I think it's coated with Cosmoline or something similar, which tends to make guns look dirty.

@WetDoggo 2 жыл бұрын

The weight could have been spring loaded to hit the floating firing pin when the bolt slams close hard enough (which should be in battery at this point) also acting as a deadblow hammer

@TylerMcL3more 2 жыл бұрын

Hey! It’s my favorite gun from the free to play game “Enlisted”! Neato mosquito! GG on the info Ian!

@josiahgibson6373 2 жыл бұрын

The ultimate banana magazine.

@jebise1126 2 жыл бұрын

what a genius design. if you need to drag you self low on ground magazine shape works like a wheel and mount at the same time... just brilliant

@rudragirik745 2 жыл бұрын

I find this machine to be uniquely handsome.

@johndallman2692 2 жыл бұрын

That's one of the most Steampunk guns yet seen on the channel.

@Coltbreath 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Ian! What are your thoughts on a Lahti Luger? Is was trolling Simpson firearms for military handguns. I saw the Luger and was reminded of your prior content on his machine-gun work!

@randywatson8347 2 жыл бұрын

Big respect to the designer.

@k3D4rsi554maq 2 жыл бұрын

What would it be like to rest that magazine on the ground?

@PileOfMeh 2 жыл бұрын

I want to see a video where French and Finnish weapons have to compete for Ian's heart.

@sharonrigs7999 2 жыл бұрын

That magazine has a bad case of Peyronie's Disease

@RidleyFFXI 2 жыл бұрын

Where did you get that hoodie / jacket thing you are wearing, Ian? It's really nice looking.

@earlholbrook8177 2 жыл бұрын

Looks like Jesus but is soft toned like Bob Ross. The best combo you can provide to inform the masses

@BlueEyedColonizer 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for making it possible for a pee on like me to see weapons like this.

@alicemilton8756 2 жыл бұрын

That magazine is showing off

@austinwagner3231 2 жыл бұрын

Is the Sako factory in a library? I dont usually associate fire arms with inside voices haha

@Ramash440 2 жыл бұрын

Ian will be reviewing more finnish guns ? Like a dream come true. Hell, I wouldn't mind him re-reviewing stuff he already did for the hell of it.

@Scuggish 2 жыл бұрын

I think youtube is getting a hold of this video, i can't like it nor watch later

@wormyboot 2 жыл бұрын

The selector lever looks a lot like a British volly sight.

@quietusplus1221 2 жыл бұрын

Looked up SAKO's history, it's quite an interesting read/watch.

@robertreynolds6725 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting

@jonathanjollimore4794 2 жыл бұрын

Hey man glad you did well man living to dream not sure if yea remember me

@hrosemd 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder why such an amazing piece of history wouldn't be cleaned meticulously and preserved for long term storage better.

@MrKrisbagge 2 жыл бұрын

Crazy idea! You should do a nerf gun on April 1st in a totally cool manner!

@distalradius8146 2 жыл бұрын

7.65 Parabellum. 500 meter sight. Riiight.

@jordangreenwade2931 2 жыл бұрын

This thing OP in Enlisted 😯!!!

@Allen338LM 2 жыл бұрын

I want to know if there's any pictures of them back then holding that bag up to their face acting like it's a big old smile cuz machine guns make smiles for Miles

@alfazagato1455 2 жыл бұрын

Two things: the company logo being the muzzle of the gun itself makes me think of how Dors Feline had a tattoo of herself on her shoulder. Also, I'm curious if Blish & Lahti were aware of each other. The separate weight & flap-lock make me think of the Blish lock from the Thompson.