Sounds good for solo builds or when you have to clutch as scout. But I don't think it's good for in team setting. You want kill the bugs and relief the pressure on your team. Not building up potential big swarms

In an ideal team comp, the scout shouldn't be the one clearing the grunts and swarmers. On Haz5 this ends up not being the case, as there aren't enough enemies to keep a good scout continually occupied, so building for blowthrough grunt clearing is often the only way to not spend 80% of a mission bored lol. I myself play often on modded difficulties, such as Hazard 6 with double enemies, where there are nearly as many HVT's such as spitters/mactera/menaces/etc. as there are grunts in Haz5. In those situations, I prefer stun to keep dangerous enemies from damaging myself or my teammates, but on Haz5 I would absolutely take fear and blowthrough over stun. It's good to note as well that you don't have to have a perfect choke to waveclear; as long as you're a skilled enough scout, you can keep grappling around a group of bugs and popping blowthrough shots at them. In teams, the fear is mostly a backup for if you end up getting pushed alone into a choke, but it's definitely still useful.

making the swarm run back and forth isn't clearing it

No, but you can shoot followup shots much more quickly and efficiently if you don't have to reposition after every shot. Fear keeps enemies running back through the choke so you don't have to continually backing up.

Mostly, I recon, it comes down to what the weapon asks of you. For the minigun you "spray and pray". Ok, not really but missing a bullet here and there will only impact your output by a small margin. With the M1k you need to aim very precisely where you want that shot to land, so if you're not a god gamer with hundreds of hours starting your focus shot while also being in movement will drastically reduce the time you have to properly line up where you want that one bullet to go.

Mostly because before they buffed SCC, even though you could counteract the movement penalty with good gameplay, the other downsides still really made it not worth taking. Now that it has been buffed though, it's a lot more worth taking if you can B-hop with it

Why is that not made obvious? That’s such a cool feature!

@@TheCynicalOne Yea it should add in the overcloak description somewhere as it makes the overcloak alot better

Isn't it better to focus shot several down at a time with blow through?

"Physically painful"? Those are the exact words someone would say who doesn't use it right.

@@RevolutionaryOven really?! tell me how you do? :O i'm really curious to know

@@beardmaster6208 Well... For me, it was like this. Lesson 1: As with any weapon overclock, you need to first get used to their downsides. In this case, you need to get used to standing completely still while charging the shot. Lesson 2: Get the right build for the job. Choose other upgrades that assist you in min/maxing the overclock. This also means to use the correct set of weapons beyond just the M1000 upgrades. My build for every class in the game (except driller because he sucks at doing this) is to focus your build around two types of weapons: waveclearing, and priority target buster. The m1000 with this overclock is, as you'd imagine, the buster. So, pick a secondary that's better for waveclearing to balance out the m1000's downside of not doing well against groups. My choice (before I changed my build in season 2 due to the boltshark) was the SMGs. I can't remember my exact build for them, but I remember I often chose ammo and damage upgrades. Clip/reload didn't matter too much because... Lesson 3: Learn the ebb and flow of the overclock. I always, on every class, take the reloader perk. It's especially useful on scout with this build because the overall pacing you'll have using the weapon is like this; Find a choice target, bust it with the m1000, grapple away. Land safely in a spot with good visibility, check for any more choice targets. If there are none, swap to your SMG and kill the grunts. If there are still some, repeat until there are none. Once you run out of ammo on the SMGs in your clips, simply grapple away to another safe location then switch to the M1000 again and try to pick off some praetorians while they try to turn around. This ebb and flow, if paced correctly, should mean you reload MUCH less often during a swarm. (Upgrade your grapple to act as fast as possible instead of as far as possible. This'll let you reliably keep moving away from threats.) That's about it, mostly. Takes a lot of learning but you become a highly mobile independant tankbuster. If you want to play together, let me know, I can show you how I use it.

You can also use it while hopping, just like for gunner with the lead storm overclock, which alleviates some of the mobility problems

@@RevolutionaryOven Yeah maybe in h4, but no for h5, 6 or 7 tbh

It’s so much better now with its new changes hitting a weak point with it does 3x as much as the freezing the enemy

SCC is for making sure high threat enemies die before they can create a problem. In that context it's value is about more than ammo and damage numbers, because if that one enemy died faster that teammate over there didn't go down. Good examples include spitballers, breeders patrol bots and septic spreaders.

fall damage:

Awesome! I always hated focus, but appreciate it now. Slowing down and being methodical can save not just ammo but ironically time also!

@@GamingExistence Just an aside, if you take damage on tier one, you one shot headshot grunts with a hipfire shot while using hipster, meaning if you use a quickfire build but place your shots right, you save double the ammo as your focus shots. Spamming as quickly as possible should only be used if the swarm is right on top of you.

@@cuttlefishrampant5241 that's only true and Haz 1 and 2. The damage mod does 96 damage per headshot on grunts which can't 1 shot them on Haz 3 or higher since they have 99-108 HP. You would need Hollow Point bullets to one shot, but then you have no blowthrough and only ~30% more ammo over the base gun, but the base gun can hit up to 4 things per bullet. Only reason to take damage is if you need it to save a bullet against Mactera and are ok getting less value against hordes. It can also help when you're body shotting Web/Acid Spitters, and against Slashers/guards, but helping against slashers/guards is way less import since those tend to to hang out near grunts. You can also make the argument that scout's grenades alleviate the issue a bit, but that's really the only way that hipster + damage can take out hordes more efficiently than the base gun, and it only applies to haz 4 and 5 grunts.

Hoverclock rock and stone!!! 😊

True but in the context of a swarm might more likely lead to death at haz 5

Not getting hit at all negates needing to heal so just kill it

It did but check out this video for some additional thoughts on it - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fNObZ66U2auwfYE.html

So many annoying enemies become so much easier to kill, patrol bots, macteras, those rolling bugs, add to the fact you can apply electric to the bugs behind, it’s good stuff

Awesome! Glad you like them and thanks for the build! Rock and stone!

EFS is definitely improved. You take ammo and still hit good break points. Makes it interesting as a hybrid blowthrough whilst still dealing with some HVT break points. Give it a go!

Thanks for the kind words ☺️ Not sure what my plan is currently. Trying out some different videos and see where I land with them and if season 4 is exciting!

EFS with damage at T1 and KF can 1x focus shot a slashers body. 2x focus shots guard body but you need to let the Dot work. Is a bit iffy and tight on ammo with T1 damage. Thanks for the feedback, good to hear! 😊

Thanks! I will get to them. My videos take a long time to make so likely all the hype will be over with others getting content out for them. Will get some proper analysis in for them ASAP though. Rock and stone!

​@Gaming Existence Your Videos all time have so huge attention to details. Im all time hyped about YOUR video.Probably no one do so clean comparing in all KZfaq.Even if some buffs or nerfs be in future, your video still be actual. Cuz any one can understand what exacly hapens with OC in situations and VS specific enemy .This means your Video be actual a VERY long time.Devs need change OC dramaticaly to your info becomes totaly outdated. Even if your video take a long time to make, its worth it.

@@sergeylukin9111 Awesome thank you for the kind comments! Rock and stone!

Yeah a few people have been saying that. I realised for some reason the audio on it was double from GK2 analysis.... I'm working on a shorter animation with shorter and quieter audio for the next vid. Hopefully it will be better! Apologies to your ear drums!

No I don't think I do mention it... I think the other overclocks are better than hipster to be honest, especially if you intend to go killer focus.

@@GamingExistence I've had the suspicion that Hipster isn't really that great of an OC. I felt awkward spamming it into a horde and using an entire clip to kill a small group. Suppose this is my que to start using Killer Focus and try other OCs. Electrifying shot and Minimal Clips seem promising to me. Amazing video btw. Keep up the good work!

Yeah, I used Hispter since the update where they made it viable. But started to try and use it on Haz 7 true solo and got nowhere with it. Hoverclock blowthrough gave me a chance!

If you are enjoying using it and finding success with the OC that is great! I am never trying to tell people what they are doing is wrong. There are so many variables to calculate and different angles. I just try to show data and perspective I have and researched from talking with others, it is for the viewer to decide after watching. What I was trying to get across when talking about SCC, is that often the scout is considered the person to deal with high value targets. HVT does not mean larger tragets like oppressors but in this scenario, webbers, acid spitters, trijaws and menaces. These are the targets that will down a group and if a scout can flare so that they and everyone can see these, and if the scout has a weapon to deal with them quickly before the team takes damage. Then this is very valuable and likely what you want your scout doing on EDD and especially higher modded hazard levels. In the video we look at other OC's that still have break points (one shot or one focus shot to kill a HVT), such as active stability system. Effectively active stability can still deal with those HVT in one focus shot, but focuses quicker, gives you freedom of movement speed boost, has more ammo and none of the SCC downsides. So what SCC is gaining in this situation is more damage per shot against larger targets like preatorians and oppressors. Which as you mention, likely other players would have better ways of dealing with these targets or even potentially your own secondary. Also if you are focusing these targets, grappling to get into position to mitigate the no movement speed, then you are taking time away from looking for the acid spitter who will take an ally or yourself down or a webber who will blind and slow someone to drop them. But it all depends on how you want to play, what your group dynamic is and what you find fun! Watch the video and come to your own conclusions. That's what Karl would approve of! Rock and stone!

@@GamingExistence OHHH, I see. It really was the different definitions of what an HVT was. Thank you for that explanation! That cleared up a lot of confusion for me and gave me more thoughts to how to play Scout better for my friends. Rock and Stone!

The changes definitely improve the OC, but unfortunately everything SCC is good at is not what you really need as the Scout, solo or in a group. This video explains more - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fNObZ66U2auwfYE.htmlsi=6QFprWbghAagq16w

It's good at everything the scout does not need to do. Watch this video for more context: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fNObZ66U2auwfYE.html

@@GamingExistence Thank you!

I don't always hit the weakpoint, but damn does it feel awesome and fun when I do

I have it on my list. might be some time though. Need to do Drak OC analysis. And then... If I decide to do OC analysis for each secondary, then best builds compared.... Could be a long time before I get there. I hear pure damage EM-refire is strong!

@@GamingExistence What do you think about Supercooling Chamber and especially Electro shots after they have been buffed?

@@sydorovich2532 EFS is not bad now. You obviously lose the speed benefits of Active Stability System which does hurt. But being able to take ammo at T1 and still hit HVT breakpoints is nice. SCC I just can't get on with. It's super slow at HVT killing but obviously deals a lot of damage on LST's (oppressors and preats), but that's not really what the scout needs. Just my opinion!

@@GamingExistence I am thinking about EFS M1000 for hordes and HVT + trifork magnetic shafts Nishanka against LST and also getting pheromone utility.

@@sydorovich2532 I have tried that exact build and quite enjoyed it. The EFS into boltshark with the correct bolt on high hp targets is a bit janky but fun to pull off when you get it. Is not a bad build, or go Embedded Dets Zhukov's.

I recorded some EFS HVT footage but left it out the video. To answer your question: From memory it takes 2x FS body shots to kill a guard and you need to let the electrical damage tick over. You can 1x FS a slasher to the body though. Regarding the 1 ammo left focus. I think that is unlikely to change much or be effectively gained in a run but not overly thought about it tbh! Rock and stone!

I've recently started to try working in a hipfire shot in between my focus shots so that I end up using the 1 ammo focus shot tech. Is it worth it? From my experience, not really. For reference, I run Active Stability System, with 8 magazine size and the damage mod on t1, which gives me a max ammo value of 104. Dividing that by 8 means I get a total of 13 mags, which on paper means 13 extra shots. (With t1 ammo, you get 144 ammo, which gives you 18 extra. Still not huge IMO.) However, in practice, these "extra" shots are only hipfire shots*, which means that I'm not going to be using them if I need to delete an HVT in a pressure situation. They also require you to fully empty your magazine to make use of. The only time you can realistically make use of this hipfire shot is when you're not being pressured to kill something faster, and the only situations I can think of where this applies are a lone praetorian or oppressor, or a lone menace that's locked onto you and not a teammate (so you can either strafe around the projectiles or stun it with the M1000 or boomstick). Against these beefy targets, one hipfire shot is likely not going to make a difference in damage, which means that unless you have a target you need to dump two full M1K mags into (which pretty much don't exist in DRG), it's really not worth going for an extra tap in between your normal focus rotation. Webspitters might be an interesting counterpoint, but I think even with them on the table, there's too much work for too little reward. This also means you have to retrain your target prioritization: if 4 mactera spawn pop up, you focus shot 3 of them and then see a webspitter in the corner of your vision, are you really going to try to go for a hipshot on the webspitter in the middle of fighting the mactera just to save one bullet? Probably not. The flipside of the coin, which I can see a reasonable argument for, is Hipster. Since the main use case of Hipster (for the typical Haz5 player) is spamming hipfire shots to clear enemies, I can definitely see the value in lining up a focus shot at the end of the magazine for the extra damage. However, Hipster's biggest strength is already its massive ammo pool. With t1 damage, Hipster has 192 maximum ammo, or 24 mags, and while 24 extra ammo might sound good, Hipster already has almost 200 ammo that you're gonna have to really work to get rid of. (Hipster with t1 ammo has 268 max ammo, which interestingly enough gives you 33 and a half magazines, so you technically get 34 extra shots, but at that point your damage potential is so gimped you might as well be playing the GK2 lol) Overall, the extra bullet is situational at best. You need to have a target that's worth hipfiring on screen at the same time as targets that are worth focus shotting, and training your brain such that you shoot an extra bullet in your rotation is a lot of effort for very little payoff. I can't really see it impacting any build other than Supercooling Chamber, so maybe if they finally buff that, this'll be a worthwhile tech to learn. *Since you can never have an uneven mag size with mods or OC's, you will have to hipfire at least once to make your magazine uneven in order to take advantage of the 1 ammo focus shot.

Thank you for taking so much time to write a response to that degree of detail! I suspected it was situational at best but definitely not worth going out of your way to trigger it; good to know my reasoning was sound.

Thanks! It'd have been an interesting niche for EFS in the HVT build if it managed to do that. Oh well.

@@dechilevel1556 Sorry for another reply, but in my original one I hadn't considered the breakpoints you don't hit if you end up taking ammo on t1 instead of damage. The two most important breakpoints in this situation are killing an acid spitter and a trijaw in one focus shot. While you can reach the trijaw breakpoint with t1 ammo if you take weakpoint damage instead of blowthrough (assuming you have armor break on t2 and killer focus on t3, though armor break doesn't affect the trijaw breakpoint), the only way to one-shot an acid spitter is by taking t1 damage. If you're taking t1 ammo, you'll end up having to hipfire acid spitters to finish them off, which is actually a valid use case for setting up an extra focus shot at the end of your mag (and the same thing with trijaws if you also take blowthrough). Though this becomes a much more useful tech in combat, I'd say it still doesn't increase the efficiency of the build much since you're taking t1 ammo, which, even if you try to farm all the grunts in a mission, you probably won't run out of m1k ammo with lol. TL:DR: with t1 ammo instead of damage, hipfiring in between focus shots is a lot more common, but still doesn't necessarily "increase" how well your build performs.

Nice, yeah that is a cool way to play with so much air time! I do love the power trip of wiping out a horde in a corridor with blowthrough though! I would love it if Hoverclock replaced killing machine at T5!

All tests were on Haz 5 carry. So Haz 5 with 4 player count for HP and resistances.

The spamming hipster into a crowd Vs focus shots was just to simulate the potential difference. Also that focus shots especially with blowthrough is a very valid alternative to using hipster as it traditionally is used. That if focus blowthrough hipster build is quicker and more efficient than blowthrough traditional hipster, then the other overclocks with better benefits and more damage to reach better breakpoints are likely better options. Hope that makes sense 😊

@@GamingExistence i think that make sense or at least what I understand is : hipster focus is better than hipster hipshot, But if you play focus shot, other OC are better 😅

@@D3LTA69 Pretty much! Some people like how Hipster can be flexible and use that ROF when you need it. But Active Stability System built for blowthrough and ammo or damage and blowthrough will likely serve you better once you get used to focus shots and even more when you get used to focus shot then normal shot to finish etc

Yeah the M1000 you can build in 2/3 different ways using nearly all the OC's. Probably the most balanced gun I can think of in DRG.

Is 3440 by 1440. Might be it?

ive been trying to find more info on the buff. what exactly did they change?

@@sneakycactus8815 its much more damage.

This video was done before the SCC and EFS buff. Some more SCC details in my scout suggested gameplay video though.

Try using the broomstick with improved stun! ☺️

@@GamingExistence Kaboom? Yes Rico, Kaboom. Btw thanks for the reply.

Working on it!

5:32 ☺️

@@GamingExistence lol how I missed this I don't now

I will keep it in mind, thanks for the feedback! I need to find the right balance and a way to make it more obvious the simulation bits are changing but not over the top as you say. I will play around with it before the next video. Still trying to find a good format and balance between style, substance and how many hours to edit all this together. Rock and stone!

To be fair, SCC got a massive buff after this video was made.