Sportsman’s warehouse has these for $650 and palmetto has them for $199 😂
@andrewgates81587 ай бұрын
Sportsman's warehouse is cheaper than dirt jr.
@danielescobar76187 ай бұрын
Lol I saw this right as he said they don't like me telling you where to aquire. Sportsman's is a sham and they treated us like real trash during covid and kept the transfers they denied when the state didn't answer in 3 days here in Oregon. I'm not giving them money unless I'm ready to tell everyone I really screwed up and left myself no options or time.
@bintjbeil78927 ай бұрын
Sportsman's warehouse is a scam 😂
@thelastjohnwayne7 ай бұрын
Sportmans Warehouse used to be reasonably priced a few years ago. Then their prices went way up.
@edgarsmittenheighnjenkson92267 ай бұрын
Sportsman’s Warehouse, Walmart shit for premium prices.
@gonerydin42257 ай бұрын
Just ordered one from PSA prior to seeing this video. It was too cheap to pass up. Good to see a professional opinion of it.
@lindboknifeandtool6 ай бұрын
$200 has me laughing hard over here I didn’t believe it
@Bellefeuille667 ай бұрын
They will ROCK AND ROLL! Auto sear tripping surface needs to be lengthened about a 1/4”, the bolt rides quite a bit higher in the upper than standard m4/m16. Needs a tinyyyy little bit shaved off the front of the bolt carrier to clear the sear as the bolt comes back. And then for the bolt I pinned a piece of shaft with a small arm sticking down off of it into the rear of the bolt carrier to trip the auto sear. Gun got registered on a form2 a couple years ago, got just a touch over 22-2300 rounds though it since then! Cycles great full auto with 2.75” buckshot and most 1300fps+ stuff, 3inch shells are kinda iffy, runs some hotter #7 and 8 birdshot on semi auto without the added weight of the sear tripping pin in the bolt carrier, but It LOVES Rio Royal 1345fps 2 3/4” #00 buckshot with the giggle switch on! I can send you pics and videos, I think there’s a few on my Insta ripping up a car door too
@adamchurvis17 ай бұрын
Who else uses Mark Serbu's videos to fall asleep with because his voice is so soothing? My sleep is all messed up because of medications I take and I have to nap during the day sometimes due to that, but Mark comes through for me every time. Every video is great and interesting and I love the content, and I love falling to sleep on them because it makes for some pleasant dreams of automatic weapons dancing through my head. In one of them, Royal Nonesuch was running toward Mark and me across a large green field in slow motion, carrying something of a strange shape and yelling out, "I made a machine gun out of mechanical babies...!" I really liked that one.
@reconty21337 ай бұрын
I love how you engineer the s’ht out of stuff and yet holding your phone and fingering this gun is kicking your ass. 😂 Nothing but love brother.
@cagneybillingsley21657 ай бұрын
it's not like he can engineer an extra arm on himself
@Pyroholiday7 ай бұрын
@@cagneybillingsley2165 Not with that attitude
@FloridaGuns6 ай бұрын
Oscar and I just bought this shotgun because of your video lol. I ran 100 rounds of Walmart low brass with Zero malfunctions today
@vne51957 ай бұрын
You're just the guy who can help the community of owners out there who are wondering how to make this gun cycle field loads reliably.
@JohnSmith-yv6eq7 ай бұрын
Saiga 12 did the same wrecking of the hull...when it threw the hulls 15ft away...... You needed a lot of pressure in a Ponsness Warren reloader to get that hull base reformed... and that only worked with brass bases of course. The red dot sight (even a cheap one) was a lot of fun with the Saiga when shooting clays. Learner shooters understood immediately to fire when the red dot was on the clay....and the clay was rising in a straight line away from the shooter. Couldn't miss....... and that instilled confidence.. and kept their mind off "the fearsome 12g recoil"....
@issintf9257 ай бұрын
I would love to see how this thing performs with an auto sear in it.
@noturfather11067 ай бұрын
Pretty well, theres videos
@1bryanh17 ай бұрын
I'd rather see it with a Super Safety so that all of us have a chance at some fun.
@Wolfsbane11007 ай бұрын
It won't, ARs are actually a really bad platform for shotguns. Get a traditional rifle-patterned shotgun instead of something built on an AR style frame.
@lindboknifeandtool6 ай бұрын
@@Wolfsbane1100why? Feeding?
@Spec_D6 ай бұрын
@@Wolfsbane1100there is a video of the same model with a lightning link ripping through 10rd mags with ease
@calanon5347 ай бұрын
Man, this is so neat. I LOVE when you just go "Hey, folks, look at this neat thing!" For the price they're asking - same as a used police trade-in in some places - I'm not sure I want to carry it into battle against the Cardboard Army in serious maneuvers, but I bet it's a REALLY fun range toy.
@JTheraos6 ай бұрын
Police trade ins are almost always barely shot. Most police only shoot their required qualifications which is 100 rounds a year or sometimes every 6 months. That's not much even over a lifetime of policing.
@dcwillis877 ай бұрын
I work at my LGS, and we sold a bunch of the JTS M12AK versions (obviously by the name this is the copy of a saiga/AK) and everyone that bought one loved it. And they seem to be built very well. Interesting to see how well built the AR version is, I thought about scooping up one of the ones from PSA.
@user-tr1mf5qb1i7 ай бұрын
Those have a 3rd pin hole.
@robertpeebles67827 ай бұрын
I call it my chicom trash blaster
@colt-ss3lw7 ай бұрын
@@user-tr1mf5qb1i Well shit !!! Now the ATF knows.
@Twargan7 ай бұрын
I bought one and love it. They say you should clean it really well before you use it, but mine was spotless, so it didn't need it. Lol
@Jamesbond228557 ай бұрын
Mine won't cycle, even with 3" slugs, and the front sight post screw in part isn't straight. Started to contact them about replacement and after the first email they stopped responding to me. Probably won't buy anything else from them ever
@johngaltman7 ай бұрын
Holy crap, you're not kidding it's cheap... I need one now.
@Just_A_Random_Desk7 ай бұрын
the age old saying of "you get what you pay for"...
@johngaltman7 ай бұрын
@@Just_A_Random_Desk Of course you do, its on clearance from over $600 because a new model is out.
@11ride4life7 ай бұрын
They are selling for $199 at PSA 600 is retail
@sheepocalypse38987 ай бұрын
Its garbage lol why do people buy shit like this without doing a smidge of research
@Cheezwizzz7 ай бұрын
@@sheepocalypse3898We just did by watching this video?! 😂
@RussXnimbusX7 ай бұрын
Hi Mark! Thank you for doing a review on this shotgun. Please do more! I love how you, as a designer and fabricator, analyze the firearm overall and go into the operational mechanics of it. -God bless
@ironwolfF17 ай бұрын
But will it survive James' 500 round test? (...probably not...)
@ReYnd7 ай бұрын
Impossibru
@awesomeopossum46327 ай бұрын
Had my friends brothers sheer it’s receiver extension threads with 2 3/4 reduced recoil slugs after 200 rounds of birdshot, it’s now an amalgamated blob of aluminum at the bottom of their fire pit
@JohnSmith-yv6eq7 ай бұрын
So how did the warranty work out for you? @@awesomeopossum4632
@electrichellion59467 ай бұрын
@@awesomeopossum4632bummer but funny. I. An picture the setting and look on his face as he tossed it in the fire.
@anchopanchorancho7 ай бұрын
Gotta get a burn down going.
@ferebeefamily7 ай бұрын
Thank you Mark for the review. PSA has them for $199 as of 01-20-2024
@robertjones281126 күн бұрын
I’ve had mine for two years and love it. Never had a jam.
@1boortzfan7 ай бұрын
Great to hear from you again Mark. You're always bringing out great stuff. Thanks.
@actionjksn7 ай бұрын
I have to say I love this gun. I bought a Chinese AK rifle in 1999 and still have it and it's never had a malfunction. They are capable of making good reliable firearms in China. This company also has several AK versions of this shotgun. I wish more American companies did things like this. I saw a lot of innovative things on this. I would trust it for home defense after running a few boxes through it. The website does say that it shoots both 2-3/4 in and 3 in shotgun shells. They also have a 10 round magazine for this.
@calebconnors8476 ай бұрын
Norinco is the only reputable Chinese brand left. I can't speak on this particular model but I have had several jts ak-t1's and they have all disassembled their gas system permanently before I got 100 rounds through any of them.
@actionjksn6 ай бұрын
@@calebconnors847 Polytech has always been good but I don't know what they are producing now.
@xoxoxo52866 ай бұрын
I'll let you know if that's true for mine, just ordered one. I've definitely wasted 200$ on dumber sheit@@calebconnors847
@alan98bert22 сағат бұрын
Got mine for $229 at PSA, so far it has run fine with high brass rounds.
@mfree802867 ай бұрын
9:26 They're balloon head bases too, like the oldest cartridges. No machining, it's all formed sheet. I'd be worried about ripping the rims off if the gas was too hot or the dwell time wasn't there.
@GBGuns7 ай бұрын
I was curious about these, but don't have a good place to be able to enjoy a shotgun like this, that and I'm fortunate enough to have a Gen-12 and Vepr-12 already so I couldn't justify getting one. Thanks for sharing!
@dennisveazey44696 ай бұрын
Couldn't justify? It's a gun. Justification complete! Achievement unlocked!
@flaredubbzy6466 ай бұрын
@@dennisveazey4469😂
@indigenoussober4077 ай бұрын
Can’t be worried about details when the only distinguishing name on it is Qongjiong. Probably came from the same place the gutter oil came from! 😂
@SolutreanSpear7 ай бұрын
Hey Mark you were wondering about the spring in the buffer, look at KAK Industries' new ar buffer and the info behind it on their website. Very interesting ideas about recoil mitigation and vibration dampening.
@user-tr1mf5qb1i7 ай бұрын
I strongly dislike the AR but I bought one of these at Rural King two years ago for $250 after taxes. It seemed to chew itself up inside at first but runs great now. I’ve had the Ak version for years.
@davidhill84373 ай бұрын
I’ve had mine for about 3yrs and I love. Take it apart clean it really good and lube it. Shoots everything
@nerored62357 ай бұрын
JTS also makes a 12 ga AK. From all reviews I've seen, they're pretty good for the price. They don't hardly jam, especially after about 70 or 80 rounds. Fun to shoot. I'm assuming the AR will be about the same.
@kneedlezkane76656 ай бұрын
I bought 3 from PSA 200.00 each. 2 grays 1 black. I was very impressed with the reliability. Even ate the bird shot on 3rd setting.
@AR-ZONA7 ай бұрын
I would have never considered buying one , but now it’s an option
@liamalepta80036 ай бұрын
I have the M12AR B1 , hand guard is like the M16 A2 and has the metal front sight w/ adjustable pin, also comes with a adjustable rear sight that attaches on the rail. It functions identical as this model. All the same choke adjust, and screw in choke barrel, chrome lined barrel. Had it for two years, I keep it oiled well, like my old M16 A2 when in the Army. I run 1330 or higher 2 3/4 quality shells. In the break in period, it would miss cycle once in a while, but now that its broke in and well oiled, its a smooth cycling semi auto. Ive run bird, buck, cut shell and several types of slugs through it, handles all well. Like a AR15, keep it oiled good and use quality shells, that is the biggest part of good cycling, those cheap 5.56 for AR15 screw up too in the rifle, it very picky for good ammo. For cheap practice I use winchester fast dove 1350 which cycle well, then from there i increase the FTPS . I trust it for home defense.
@crusiethmaximuss7 ай бұрын
Hey, Mark, can you do a follow-up video of you firin' this beast with flight-control buckshot and slugs?
@ryanjones49177 ай бұрын
I was wondering how/if it would handle magnum loads.
@crusiethmaximuss7 ай бұрын
Same here. Accordin' to ads it can load 3" cartridge shells, but how does it perform? Hmmm... It would look cool with an optic and a hush can at the end of the barrel :D@@ryanjones4917
@h2recoveryteam27 ай бұрын
Great video Mark. And like yourself. Not everything from China is junk.
@danielescobar76187 ай бұрын
I just hate giving them money to gear up against us. Same with 511, even though I hear they make sure the workers are treated nice over in Vietnam. I like Vietnamese and Chinese people, but man their govs just don't like em as much as I do and I don't wanna help them out.
@stevedevice18667 ай бұрын
@@danielescobar7618 I showed my Vietnamese mate here in Australia your comment. He said "this guy is mentally ill" and "he lives in a 80s movie version of the world" Just thought I'd share. ;)
@johnherbert14317 ай бұрын
So communism doesn't exist? Sounds like your mate might have been brainwashed bro@@stevedevice1866
@actionjksn7 ай бұрын
@@danielescobar7618 The Vietnamese government is not that bad compared to the CCP. They are not a threat and I don't think they're on very friendly terms with the Chinese government. I'm not saying the Vietnamese government is good because they're not, they're just not super bad like the CCP.
@louisbecker59417 ай бұрын
There actually are serrations on the bolt... I guess that forward assist isn't just for looks?🤔
@BushWookie6667 ай бұрын
Can confirm, it works
@InsanePacoTaco7 ай бұрын
It's there so you can make your jams worse just like on an AR
@xoxoxo52866 ай бұрын
@@InsanePacoTacolmao, they don't know until they know. Can't stomp on it like an ak.
@ehrenkrause98617 ай бұрын
Finally after 20 years They finally made it
@adammanning88827 ай бұрын
I believe that spring in the buffer is a dampener for if/when it bottoms out in the buffer tube. Maybe it’s there to limit damage if someone shoots a hot load when the gas port is all the way open. I’d be concerned if it was bottoming consistently though. If it’s slamming into the back of the buffer tube, it could tear the threads out or break the end of the tube.
@tomliemohn6247 ай бұрын
I'm not a shotgun guy, but I'd own one of these if I didn't live in WA!! Looks awesome.
@user-tr1mf5qb1i7 ай бұрын
I’m not an AR guy but but this anyway for the same reason.
@Twargan7 ай бұрын
I bought the ak version. It was $250. Its the most fun ive had on the range in a while. Lol
@paulis73197 ай бұрын
That looks fun! And those little cosmetic defects just add to the uniqueness of it.
@rdubb9526 ай бұрын
The 1 inch rail attached to the barrel is turn the smidge to the right. The barrel is pinned and it cannot be adjusted. So you have to put on your front site on the rail on the shroud.
@HebrewHammerArmsCo7 ай бұрын
Still not as much fun as a Korean Daewoo USAS12 on fun mode
@jessepalmer69977 ай бұрын
Man you are my hero Mark. I can’t believe you answered the elephant in the room question
@vevenaneathna7 ай бұрын
i built a bunch of ar's back in 2016 for the same price. crazy how cheap some stuff can be
@Mr_Dopey7 ай бұрын
Serbu's insight into R&D is so interesting and inpiring! I've been obsessing over the lever delayed blowbacks lately. The Rudd wedge delay AR is particularly interesting. I believe a Famas style action would be well suited to the AR18 package. I also believe a lever delayed blowback AR18 flipped for a beltfed would make a very reliable SAW. My state is very strict. As an unlicensed amatuer, I have playing with wood blocks just to see what layout is the most promising.
@TacShooter7 ай бұрын
That gray model looks cool.
@johnknouse88467 ай бұрын
Saw these on sale before Xmas, and it took all the willpower that I possessed not to grab one for the price they were advertised at, even though I think I may have brought my shotgun out one time last year to shoot a couple rounds of skeet, then put it back in the safe. Would be a nice shotgun to have sitting next to my recliner, to compliment the Glock 17 I have in the armrest! Always wondered about how well they would function at that price.
@richardpatrono81856 ай бұрын
I have the AK version and have never had a problem. I think it's a awesome weapon.
@Paul_Sergeyev7 ай бұрын
Can you make it full auto please? Always was interested how fast an AR type of shotgun would be in full auto. Speed area lead dispenser 2000
@mattking34397 ай бұрын
One for the algorithm. Thanks Mark!
@lewismorales40276 ай бұрын
Got one 2 weeks ago. Not enough videos on KZfaq about this! Thanks for the video!
@VitalArms7 ай бұрын
Didn’t expect this one! I have a PCP air rifle from JTS. The Airacuda
@billynomates9207 ай бұрын
2:44 got to like that transition! 👍😄
@bigdatapimp7 ай бұрын
Was eyeballing these the other day. I think I'll try and score one if I ever have any money 😂
@kenibnanak55547 ай бұрын
Looks like those dents come from the base of the shell hitting the back of the ejection port.
@nathant38977 ай бұрын
Pretty neat shotty with a ton of features
@gustonzimasheen7 ай бұрын
This is on my WISH list. jk. Looks really cool for the price of a few Doll Hairs more.
@johngaltman6 ай бұрын
I just wanted to give an update on my previous post. I actually purchased one of these and got it today, I tore it all the way down and put it back together. From that inspection I found none of the previous issues with sharp edges that cut up the hulls of the shot shells to be present, so they have fixed those issues. I then went and shot it... It absolutely jams on nearly every shot IF you use bird loads, on the other hand 00 buck shot ran without any problems, so the buffer spring is way overpowered, and this is not you gun if you are looking for a birding shotgun. I am looking to see if I can find a lighter spring that will work for bird loads to train and plink with. The only true problem I had with the gun is that the U shaped reinforcement lips that are on the two provided magazines are over sized, and caused one of them to jam in the gun... The first one I just had to remove the phosphate finish to get it to work properly, the second one I had to file quite a bit to get it to work. Neither of them will drop from the gun but have to be pulled out, but it is now easy to pull them out. So, if you are hoping to get a semi-auto Benelli level shotgun for $220, you will be sadly disappointed, but if you accept that you are getting a Chinese made piece of equipment that will take maybe 20 minutes worth of work to get it to run quite well, then this is the gun for you. Thank you Mr. Serbu for your advice on this gun, well worth the purchase for me. As a side note, yes I am a trained gun smith, so even if it would have had bigger issues I could have gotten the gun to run eventually.
@1nfamyX7 ай бұрын
Really like these kinds of vids 🤍
@mfree802867 ай бұрын
I think it's funny they used the Ming font for the engraved lettering. It's one of those things that just pops out at you after a while, smacks you in the face, and screams "China!".
@andrewgates81587 ай бұрын
Finally a cool looking ar 12 gauge
@lukelaughlin527 ай бұрын
Oh good video!!! I just impulse purchased one.
@m92quad557 ай бұрын
I'd like to know what the metal quality is like of the critical components. I got the AK version for $250 and it ran great. Front trunnion looks cast though so doesn't inspire confidence for longevity. I would love to hear from anyone with a high round count through it.
@jagx2347 ай бұрын
I neeeed to see this rockin and rollin!
@CameronMartin-ov2yy7 ай бұрын
I mean a 12g fits in a ar magwell, probably only need to make it a little bigger
@meisenhut317 ай бұрын
Cool design especially for the price. My biggest concern would be the lug that the op rod pushes breaking off of the carrier. It looks like a stress riser and would get beaten up by the op rod in no time flat.
@havokvladimirovichstalinov7 ай бұрын
Would be nice to have one. But feckin Jay Inslee just cant let anything be
@NicholasA2317 ай бұрын
You're not gonna let Jay and Bob stop you, are you?
@crushingexistentialism7 ай бұрын
@@NicholasA231 its not like we washingtonians can just go across the border and get one. the ffl process means that its impossible for us to get cool stuff like this.
@internetbodhi10097 ай бұрын
@@crushingexistentialism "Impossible"
@PlasticRocket26 ай бұрын
Something thats always bothered me about AR style shotguns is most of them having a side charging handle. This one having the traditional handle makes it look great
@fairplayer9166 ай бұрын
Wonder if we could get one of those in California if the seller would configure it as featureless first. Throw a stupid fin grip on it, and a fixed stock. Charge an extra $50 for the convenience. Boom
@richardturk71627 ай бұрын
I wonder what the Rockwell hardness is of the bolt and bolt carrier. If you would check that because I am curious as to how hard the metal is.
@BeauDirt16 ай бұрын
It's not hardened.
@raymondj87687 ай бұрын
Pretty Cool video Bro I kinda like it !
@anchopanchorancho7 ай бұрын
You gotta get a crossover with James Reeves and his famous shotgun burn downs. Hes only ever done Turkish shotties, time for this Chinese one.
@thndr_54687 ай бұрын
200 DOLLARS? I need one!
@walkercustoms7 ай бұрын
Thanks dude..
@Rusterman-is7ex2 ай бұрын
It looks similiar to the Daiwoo USAS 12 semi auto shotgun whitch is classified as an NFA DD.
@lifewithmarleyandjon46166 ай бұрын
I just got one, before I even saw this. Once again KZfaq isn't notifying me of new videos
@Jesses0017 ай бұрын
I mean for the price. That is normally the price of a pump action so worth it just to see if the thing works. You got the cool color I can not find anymore.
@1dedrer7 ай бұрын
Imagine this with a double stacked mag 🎉
@lethalweaboo86627 ай бұрын
My dyslexia just read 12 gauge IAR.
@HelicoolsHelipad6 ай бұрын
I love the content! I found that I was not a subscriber yet, sooo… these are really cool and I hope I can still find one.
@E1337Jerk7 ай бұрын
Great stuff Mark very cool! Would love to see how it handels some high brass! Have you made any shotguns?
@Krieg13377 ай бұрын
I’d love to see a video of this beast going full auto.
@PureCountryof917 ай бұрын
The outro music.. is there gonna be s 9 holes collab? That would be amazing.
@addisme75617 ай бұрын
Guns good sir thank you, we all appreciate you 😊🎉
@ericclone7 ай бұрын
This Chongqing Jianshe Industry (Group) Co., Ltd (重庆建设工业(集团)有限公司)is a legit military equipment manufacturer owned by the People's Liberation Army. So if you buy it, you are literally funding China's military, yo.
@jonathan-69587 ай бұрын
They have already been paid by JTS to manufacture these, and JTS has already been paid by whatever chain store u buy this from. Same for just about every red dot made nowadays.
@ericclone7 ай бұрын
@@jonathan-6958 what is your point?
@calanon5347 ай бұрын
@@ericclone "They" already got their money, no matter if you buy one, or it sits on a shelf forever. The only point against that is that if there's no demand for them on the primary market and they all get sold to secondary dealers, the PRC won't likely authorize the manufacture of many more.
@ericclone7 ай бұрын
@@calanon534 You are not adding anything new. That is exactly my point, if no one buys them, do you think US retailers will continue to order batch after batch from China just so that they can sit on the shelves all over the country?
@calanon5347 ай бұрын
@@ericclone Man alive, who pissed in your Wheaties?
@kanrakucheese6 ай бұрын
Given the strong family resemblance, I wonder if they've tried to import a .410 upper on a plain old 15 lower and what excuse was/would be given to stop it.
@ndenise34607 ай бұрын
So a cross between, an ar, ak, and ar18. Nice
@EvanDickersonM817 ай бұрын
Id like to onow if it could take ar10 uppers. Couple be a cheap way of getting an entry level large frame.
@dougadams94196 ай бұрын
The grey version seen here is $250 at PSA.
@ravensnflies81677 ай бұрын
me over here in bullpup camp.
@VincitOmniaVeritas77 ай бұрын
I’m not a big fan of 12ga “AKs”, too much muzzle rise. But an “AR” shotgun seems a lot more pleasant to shoot with the recoil system in line with the barrel.
@rickkinnison95737 ай бұрын
Spring on back of bolt, likely additional recoil mitigation
@josephcormier59747 ай бұрын
Thank you Mark this was a very informative and enjoyable video what is the cost of this weapon thanks for sharing this with us six stars brother
@dennisveazey44696 ай бұрын
Palmetto State Armory currently has them at $199.
@levischittlord65586 ай бұрын
It's like an AR and a Saiga hybrid.
@BlizzyM0bileGunner6 ай бұрын
Funny I just picked mine up today..looks good in this color
@notreally22277 ай бұрын
Damn, these are pretty common seen in hands of cash couriers back in China
@christiansmitha6 ай бұрын
I modified mine to take a nornal ar 16 buffer tube and i cut fown the barrel to like 12.5 inches and sbsed it. Runes slugs and buck fine but bird shot almost functions
@mrshort23797 ай бұрын
If that lower receiver works with a dpms 308, than it would be worth having. outside of that. I like how its made, or at least the principal of how its made and how the handguard mount.✌
@jasonkeating99583 ай бұрын
And interesting project would be changing the bolt and barrel and converting it into a rifle, Wonder if that would be possible.
@damnits22007 ай бұрын
How’d that get imported from China?
@jic17 ай бұрын
The import ban doesn't cover shotguns.
@PD-we8vf7 ай бұрын
Mark if you make an improved version. People will buy it.
@nigelkavanagh20487 ай бұрын
Neat lookin shotgun! Great vid mark. Thanks
@jasonkeating99583 ай бұрын
If this company could import rifles there would be $250 AR10 rifles on the shelf