M28/76: A Finnish Competition & Sniper Mosin

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Жыл бұрын

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The Finns developed several difference scopes rifles in the 1930s, but none were made in large quantities, and they were not really much used during the Winter War or Continuation War. The first post-war consideration was given to a new model in 1954, but that led instead to a decision to make a competition version of the M28 rifle using nice diopter sights; the M28/57. These were later modified by cutting down their stocks to be better biathlon rifles...up until international biathlon moved form full power cartridges to .22 rimfire.
In the mid 1960s, Valmet's planned semiauto 7.62x54R sniper rifle on the AK platform failed - it was far too inaccurate. Left in a bit of a lurch, the Army took the M28/57 setup and applied it to the M27 Army rifles, and the resulting M27/66 was an interim sniper rifle, as well as being the standard Army rifle for formal marksmanship competitions. These were supplemented by the old M28/57 rifles, which were rebuilt with new stocks as the M28/76 - which is what we are looking at today. Ultimately, these were all replaced by the TKIV-85 proper sniper's rifle in the 1980s.
Most M28/76 rifles were made with just diopter sights; only a small number were given scope bases as well. In addition, about 10% were made with left-handed stocks, and I am very lucky to have found an example with both of those features!
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@GeFeldz
@GeFeldz Жыл бұрын
Left-handed example with a scope-mount west of the Atlantic, not a unicorn but probably the equivalent of a northern-european moose with a form-fitted saddle =)
@MatsGarage
@MatsGarage Жыл бұрын
Ok, who has leaked the info about the top secret nordic moose cavalry?
@janihuhtanen8289
@janihuhtanen8289 Жыл бұрын
Ians fascination with Finland and Finnish guns warms my cold Finnish heart
@dr.ryttmastarecctm6595
@dr.ryttmastarecctm6595 Жыл бұрын
To keep your heart warm may I suggest some time in a smoke sauna?
@SpliefDaGrief
@SpliefDaGrief Жыл бұрын
America loves Finnish guns 👏🏻
@Tomi-oe5mz
@Tomi-oe5mz Жыл бұрын
Sama
@kc9602
@kc9602 Жыл бұрын
Simo would be proud.
@LemonCamel
@LemonCamel Жыл бұрын
How could you not be? Some crazy stuff, I mean, look at THIS thing.
@chaprandom8362
@chaprandom8362 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see Ian rocking the Finnish drip
@trikyy7238
@trikyy7238 Жыл бұрын
With a very rare "duck" cap to boot.
@randyallen2771
@randyallen2771 Жыл бұрын
Back in the 80s when I was competing in biathlon, I replaced the stock on my Anchutz 1427 with a Finish Laukennen stock that I got from one of the US team coaches that looked just like what you’ve got there. It was functional and beautiful, a big step up from the factory stock it replaced and a thing of beauty. Wish I still had that rifle. By the way, the aluminum rail on the left side of the forend is to attach a carrying harness so the rifle can be carried flat across the back and vertical when skiing. Thanks for showing this piece.
@hektonian
@hektonian Жыл бұрын
Let me just appreciate the M91 cucumber salad outfit. Also, your open chest pockets will probably get you chewed on by the first Finnish NCO that sees you
@Nollis
@Nollis Жыл бұрын
I only noticed them from your comment and now I can't keep my eyes off of them. It just feels so... wrong.
@ElTejon47901
@ElTejon47901 Жыл бұрын
Hey, hero, that blouse is unsat! Come see me after this video. Bring a hydration source!
@NearCry91
@NearCry91 Жыл бұрын
The word you're looking for is relish.
@deathraygonzo6339
@deathraygonzo6339 Жыл бұрын
Gona
@jackboomslang5646
@jackboomslang5646 Жыл бұрын
I believe that is a Hellepuku M01
@manicmechanic448
@manicmechanic448 Жыл бұрын
I love how modifiable the old Mosin's are.
@buncer
@buncer Жыл бұрын
Yeah, bubba does too.
@dothwalrus370
@dothwalrus370 Жыл бұрын
Oh Bubba, no!
@manicmechanic448
@manicmechanic448 Жыл бұрын
@@dothwalrus370 you brag about ownin a Glock, don't you?
@liamzakhaev
@liamzakhaev Жыл бұрын
​@@manicmechanic448 Bragging about owning a Glock is infinitely more acceptable than butchering a mosin nagant with Promag parts. Neither are good mind you, but if I were a home invader, I'd consider a bubba with a mosin that should be put down an easier target.
@liamzakhaev
@liamzakhaev Жыл бұрын
@@wildcardbitchesyeehaw8320 except the finns had a good sense of quality control, fudds who fit a mosin into an archangel stock do not.
@herosstratos
@herosstratos Жыл бұрын
7:56 Firma Karl Krähling Optik in Wetzlar, Germany MSW-Wetzlar: M. Hensoldt & Söhne Optische Werkstätte Wetzlar
@chaprandom8362
@chaprandom8362 Жыл бұрын
If anyway possible, I'd love to see Ian take a look at the TKIV 85, the still serving sniper Mosin of the Finnish Army.
@matthewmudgett7413
@matthewmudgett7413 Жыл бұрын
At the start he says this is “not quite the final” sniper mosin. So I’d bet good money he’s either already filmed the newer rifle or he has plans to
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons Жыл бұрын
I don't have it filmed yet, but it's on the list. :)
@juhokuusisto9339
@juhokuusisto9339 Жыл бұрын
From what I've heard, TKiv 85 should be going to war reserves and province companies with SVD soon, as the new Sako rifles come to service. TRG M10's for bolt action sniping and M23 for DMR.
@jaakkokoskinen8198
@jaakkokoskinen8198 Жыл бұрын
The 85 is a lovely rifle especially taking into account its humble ancestry, and especially with D166 bullets.
@jkausti6737
@jkausti6737 Жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenWeapons I'd like too see that video for one simple reason; Ian trying to say "tarkkuuskivääri". I mean he chickened out on "rynnäkkökivääri" while doing the RK62 videa so....
@CKshouta
@CKshouta Жыл бұрын
One of these was recently featured on "Hot gat or fudd crap" article on TFB. Sadly none of the writers there recognized the rifle as an official conversion and thought it was a well done Elbonian rifle.
@dwi2921
@dwi2921 Жыл бұрын
Wow, the folks at TFB don't actually know that much about old guns? Colour me surprised! Seriously though, all it takes is a Google search.
@sniperfreak223
@sniperfreak223 Жыл бұрын
The "tacticool" folks don't hold the moist nuggets in very high regard
@CKshouta
@CKshouta Жыл бұрын
@@sniperfreak223 most nuggets are garbage rods Finnish ones is another story altogether especially ones that are converted by them to legit target rifles.
@sniperfreak223
@sniperfreak223 Жыл бұрын
@@CKshouta you are aware that the Finnish Mosins are all just rebuilt "garbage" Mosins?
@evantalbott8602
@evantalbott8602 Жыл бұрын
I just got back from a trip to Helsinki a couple of days ago and saw this in a military museum. Awesome!
@jukkatalari3896
@jukkatalari3896 Жыл бұрын
Taskut! Lepo! Taskut - kiinni! :D ... points for Ian for wearing the M/91 (summer version) on the video (The summer version was basically issued only to those on duty outside Finland, id est UN peacekeeping missions et cetera.)
@jukkatalari3896
@jukkatalari3896 Жыл бұрын
Oh dang! On the range, he has sorsalakki (the duck cap), a soft cap originally used with the M/62 cammies! :) (The camo pattern is the same, with M/91 the colors were standardized; earlier M/62 had wild variety of shades as fabric printing colors shifted easily)
@eerokutale277
@eerokutale277 Жыл бұрын
Finnish M62 Camouflage Effectiveness: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sNNnmpSo2Mqtqas.html
@jarmonuora3397
@jarmonuora3397 Жыл бұрын
That so familiar BDU... I used that during my first tour in BiH.😀 Good memories.
@petrimakela5978
@petrimakela5978 Жыл бұрын
But my god does that cap suck
@jukkatalari3896
@jukkatalari3896 Жыл бұрын
@@petrimakela5978 Suck? You must have had wrong size or your hair was too long - as I remember, it was one of the better liked items (and as such, one of the items that was most frequently reported ”lost”)
@mike9975
@mike9975 Жыл бұрын
I did a few of Homeland Defence Organizations sniper courses in the early 2000s...We got issued both these and the M85 variant. 28/76 is lighter of these two, and dragging it in a ditch all ghillied up was far nicer. The bipod was a rather clunky affair but the rifles were easily capable of hitting targets at 500 meters, which was the maximum distance we could use at the Coastal Brigade's range.
@danieldalessandro96
@danieldalessandro96 Жыл бұрын
"Sporterizing" done so right it becomes a sniper/competition rifle. I'll allow it.
@lancerevell5979
@lancerevell5979 Жыл бұрын
I have the Finn M-39 rifle, one of the first milsurps I ever bought. Looks very nice, but the bore is badly pitted, as I didn't really know what to look for way back then. I call her my "Prom Queen with bad teeth". 😆
@progeda666
@progeda666 Жыл бұрын
that stock looks so nice
@tree9856
@tree9856 Жыл бұрын
The boys at 9hole reviews gotta run this thing!!! Very nice weapon. Love the left hand fire right hand bolt. Always wanted a lefty for my collection. Like the opposing hand bolt operation idea. Trigger hand stays put. On further thought neither of them are leftys so.... bummer. You da man Ian. Thanks
@Doppeldropper
@Doppeldropper Жыл бұрын
My father had an old m/28-30 modified for biathlon use back in late 50's early 60's. He ordered a barrel and biathlon stock (and biathlon harness) from Sako and had it put together (by Sako or armory). The stock was different type, i.e. not the same as the one Ian shows here. My dad used it till the .22LR rifles took over in military biathlon competitions too.
@Tallus_ap_Mordren
@Tallus_ap_Mordren Жыл бұрын
Love the lefty stock there!
@Zerja
@Zerja Жыл бұрын
So cool, I own one of these and it is a truly amazing piece. Mine came with the name tag of the last person to use it in competition. Silky smooth and ultra light trigger. The double ghost ring sights are super super cool.
@sillysongs19
@sillysongs19 Жыл бұрын
that stock is beautiful
@nerome619
@nerome619 Жыл бұрын
Well goes to show the phrase 'you can't polish a turd' has never met a determined Finn!
@Jake_Hamlin
@Jake_Hamlin Жыл бұрын
Simo Häyhä wouldnt call the M28-30 a turd
@someotamatonewithayoutubea9478
@someotamatonewithayoutubea9478 Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that as a finn myself, but i wouldn't say that mosin nagant is "turd", if you have ever heard of 6,5mm caliber carcano rifles. they're called terni rifles because a company: terni imported them in finland, only for us to complain how shitty the carcanos were, the caliber is inadequate for our environment and stopping power is almost non existent of you hit anywhere but the red commie bastard's "cabbage" (brains)
@nerome619
@nerome619 Жыл бұрын
@@Jake_Hamlin He wasn't from 1976 when this rifle was introduced ... technology had moved on.
@TheCouchCommando
@TheCouchCommando Жыл бұрын
It's not the rifle pattern that is bad in russian mosins apparently , it's fetal alcohol syndrome machinists.
@JonJonGTA
@JonJonGTA Жыл бұрын
​@@nerome619 simo passed away if i remember correctly in 2002. But who knows if he even held or seen this model. But for sure he was definitely around the same time this model was created. And yes i know the model he used was the Model 28-30
@ragnarragnarsson3128
@ragnarragnarsson3128 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how much a much rarer left handed and factory scoped variant of an already rare finnish sniper rifle set Ian back...
@Khan.WrathOf
@Khan.WrathOf Жыл бұрын
Low 5 figures at least. I don't see a big following for these as they don't have a history of combat use but the rarity alone should put it up there.
@homeruu1lol
@homeruu1lol 11 ай бұрын
My dad worked at Asevarikko1 from around 1969-2005ish and he was a carpenter who made the stocks to this rifle and the tkiv 85 with his work buddies😎 Need to show the video to my dad. Fun fact my grandpa worked in Asevarikko1 before and during the winter/continuation war and after it
@IExistSometimes
@IExistSometimes Жыл бұрын
I greatly enjoy your pronunciation of Kuopio at 5:10
@fm451
@fm451 Жыл бұрын
Great Video, Ian. This rifle reminds me of the East German SSG-82 Police Sniper rifle, on steroids!
@kraatarin8226
@kraatarin8226 Жыл бұрын
5:30 Very nicely pronounced "Asevarikko", Ian is becoming fluent in finnish
@donaldwinecoff4527
@donaldwinecoff4527 Жыл бұрын
I had an M28/76 without the scope mount. It was chambered in 7.62X53R so I couldnt run surplus and factory ammo was expensive so I sold it. I regret that decision now. I still have a beautiful M39 with a plum color barrel that I love.
@Hyller88
@Hyller88 Жыл бұрын
you really need 4K with all these amassing firearms you are showing. Especially with all the great content that you are making.
@GeFeldz
@GeFeldz Жыл бұрын
13:18 I love the sentiment Ian, and i do get the joke (i actually smiled to myself), however i do feel the need to inform the 99.99 percent of viewers not from here that even the northern parts of Finland, Sweden and Norway (well, northern Norway not as much being right next to the north sea and across the 'scandinavian mountains' mountain range from Sweden) do get to 95-100+ degrees F for an admittedly small part of the year. Long story short, it gets actually hot up here in the sub-arctic (way north of where Ian usually goes in Finland) for at least a short period each summer. Funnily enough, that's usually around the same period when the sun doesn't set at night (or only partially sets as it is here where i live), whodathunkit? 100 degrees F in the shade is rare, i admit, but it does happen. A nice summer does have a good few days with 75-85 degrees F in the shade and a couple-three-five days (24 hour days) when it never gets below 68 degrees F. LOTS and LOTS of mosquitoes though, oh lawd the mosquitoes.
@GeFeldz
@GeFeldz Жыл бұрын
The above post may or may not have been crafted under the influence of ethanol in the blood. Who knows?
@Ba_Yegu
@Ba_Yegu Жыл бұрын
A Company of British troops went a few years ago to a military exercise in Finnish Lapland unprepared. A few days later most of them were considered casualties in the exercise as the Mosquitoes almost ate them alive.
@darkoflight4938
@darkoflight4938 Жыл бұрын
Just wonderful to see how it shoot as well as the usual technical stuff. Another great video about a great gun and a lefty one at that for Ian!
@polhokustaa4989
@polhokustaa4989 Жыл бұрын
very cool! I have a frankenstein built which has 27-66 stock, TKIV-85 bedding block, Maxim barrel and a Timney trigger :D
@marttimattila9561
@marttimattila9561 Жыл бұрын
I made a 22 cal. copy from 28/57 when I was serving in 1972-3 just to make something to use for my sparetime and I was amassed how steady 28/57 was when standing. Durin that period one H. Ikola was making a 22 rim. prototype for him self. So some way I came close to Finnish rifle devepment. I still have this 22 cal. "Reikäkivääri" a so called Hole rifle because it has a hole in the stock where the thump goes tru.
@sionsoschwalts2762
@sionsoschwalts2762 Жыл бұрын
Ah, another rifle I need. Why does Ian do this to me? Why do I do this to myself?😢😂
@DustyGamma
@DustyGamma Жыл бұрын
7:02 "And this one on mine..." This is Ian's rifle. There are few like it, but this one is Ian's.
@StahortheDark
@StahortheDark Жыл бұрын
Speaking of biathlon rifles, it's always fascinating to see ease with which it cycled. Is this specific design, or just high-quality manufature?
@lassenlautta
@lassenlautta Жыл бұрын
wonder if this is related to the later 7.62 TKIV 85
@petrimakela5978
@petrimakela5978 Жыл бұрын
Essentially same guys behind that project
@digitaal_boog
@digitaal_boog Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the ssg82
@xdgamer2765
@xdgamer2765 Жыл бұрын
there is also a dragoon/cavalry ww2 finland uniform, and ww2 raincoat standard infantry, very drippy stuff bro
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 Жыл бұрын
I can just imagine touching that trigger before you get it snugged in tight...😬
@clangerbasher
@clangerbasher Жыл бұрын
Isn't this the rifle that featured recently on The Firearm Blog's Hot Gat or Fud Crap feature?
@JohnSmith-yv6eq
@JohnSmith-yv6eq Жыл бұрын
CKshouta 24 minutes ago One of these was recently featured on "Hot gat or fudd crap" article on TFB. Sadly none of the writers there recognized the rifle as an official conversion and thought it was a well done Elbonian rifle.
@clangerbasher
@clangerbasher Жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-yv6eq I thought so. Thanks.
@cosaqueexiste9647
@cosaqueexiste9647 Жыл бұрын
Hey ian would you be able to discuss Finnish ammunition? I think it's sort of a forgotten thing about Finnish use and adoption of small arms
@Schaumanner
@Schaumanner Жыл бұрын
I'm from Lapua so I'd love to see Ian talking about Finnish ammo, since that's the only thing my home town is known for other than commie busting in the 30's. During my military service it was heart warming to see that ammo was always marked Lapua :D
@kuppakeisari
@kuppakeisari Жыл бұрын
@@Schaumanner im familiar with Lapua with the racetrack as it is one that allows some noise. I would argue that at least half if not more bensalenkkarit in drifting scene would know Lapua.
@dethmgnt4257
@dethmgnt4257 Жыл бұрын
Looks like the Diana break barrel pellet rifle I had as a kid 😂
@skepticalbadger
@skepticalbadger Жыл бұрын
No more so than any other precision rifle of the period.
@av8bvma513
@av8bvma513 Жыл бұрын
Kiitos paljon Ian!
@rays.5764
@rays.5764 Жыл бұрын
History and shooting in one video. What a treat.
@Creen64
@Creen64 Жыл бұрын
My buddy has one of these with a pretty close serial number to yours. Unfortunately if I remember correctly the scope mount was bent in shipping so he's stuck shooting with the diopter sights. It's a neat rifle for sure.
@DiggingForFacts
@DiggingForFacts Жыл бұрын
I remember reading an article (probably in the old Dutch AK56 magazine) in the early 00's about a sniper competition in Finland and I clearly recall them mentioning "custom-built Mosin action platforms." I get the feeling this is what the author was referring to when he was observing the proceedings.
@VincitOmniaVeritas7
@VincitOmniaVeritas7 Жыл бұрын
- Hey Stalin, wanna hear a joke? - Da, Simo. - Helsinki. - I don’t get it… - And you’ll never will… 😎 - мудак!!
@Finnish_Infantryman
@Finnish_Infantryman Жыл бұрын
I find Finnish mosins are extremely interesting. Nice camo by the way
@kuurottoa
@kuurottoa Жыл бұрын
Does anyone remember the video when Ian tells the lady enthusiastically the anecdote about Mosin's bolt and the rock?
@jobervelasco8614
@jobervelasco8614 Жыл бұрын
I just competed last week at the USA Shooting 300 meter National Rifle Championship in Elk River, MN using a Finnish made Tikka T3X. It can get the job done just as well as the Swiss made Grunig and Bleiker 300 meter rifles. The Finns make great rifles.
@mrmicro22
@mrmicro22 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious the range for full power biathlon. The safety logistics must have been much more daunting.
@santtilagmailcom
@santtilagmailcom Жыл бұрын
I got to shoot with that during my service and won all the artillery officers who was shooting with me. Some of them even claimed that someone had shot to my target since they had a hard time believing that a navy medic could beat them in shooting.
@randymagnum143
@randymagnum143 Жыл бұрын
What did you do with all the arty officers?
@anttieskelinen1
@anttieskelinen1 Жыл бұрын
@@randymagnum143 coastal artillery was a thing back then.
@randymagnum143
@randymagnum143 Жыл бұрын
@@anttieskelinen1 I was being an ass and making a joke about your English, even knowing it's not your first language. You said you "won all the artillery officers" and not "won against all the artillery officers" If you still have those officers in your possession, please disregard my poor attempt at a joke.
@pablorages1241
@pablorages1241 Жыл бұрын
LOL ... I had the same thing when i was in the forces ... you shoot well and people say the people next to you are shooting at your target ...as if that would be better
@tomhenry897
@tomhenry897 Жыл бұрын
We had medics in the infantry that shot expert with M16s Carried sidearms and don’t know how they shot those
@StPaul76
@StPaul76 2 ай бұрын
I shot with this and the TAK-85 as well as the SVD during my service in the sniper/dmr training. My personal rifle being the 85 with a Zeiss 2-7x42 scope with a finer duplex reticle. The 85 is more adjustable incl.trigger angle and pull settings. As I recall(might be wrong) that these 76's were .308-bore built to shoot the .308-caliber D46 target bullet. A 185gr fmjbt "Häyhä" bullet. The 85 was a .310-bore built for the .310-caliber 200gr D166 "war-bullet". So we had to pay attention which rounds were used in different rifles. But there was only a couple of 76's in use in our unit back in the mid 90's. Shooting .311-caliber like I'd assume this S&B 182gr stuff is, I wouldn't expect very impressive results in precision but more like impressive recoil and pressure marks in the primers as well as extensive coppering in the barrel. These rifles may be old but it is the superbly made barrels, head spacing, triggers, the Proper ammunition(not Russki surplus iron-stuff) And the shooter that hits his mark that kills not how 'modern' any particular weapon is.. A 185gr-200gr fmjbt with a high SD and BC with an impact velocity of 2000fps out in the distance will harvest meat with always two holes in the opponent. The entrance and the exit. No difference in physical practice to a modern .308 "sniper rifle".
@mettakana
@mettakana Жыл бұрын
When those stock came to finnsih army surplus stores, most were left hand. Never saw a right hand stock in the surplus store.
@randomalex2696
@randomalex2696 10 ай бұрын
Holy crap. The intro to describe how the Finnish got from plain Mosin Nagant to that rifle was so long! So much of people believing they can do a little better each time. Challenge Ian to get each of those rifles and shoot them all in one day. In winter though,as was intended.
@juihmi
@juihmi Жыл бұрын
These rifles are pretty accurate. I have M28-57 but it is equipped with M27 stock.
@mightress
@mightress Жыл бұрын
Mosins aren't bad shooters anyway. The surplus ammo sock. Reload with good bullets and powder and they shout pretty well.
@kristiangunderson
@kristiangunderson Жыл бұрын
I don't have a Finnish target/sniper rifle, but i have several from Norway, Sweden, and Denmark. Cool rifles for sure, especially the ones that were built into essentially civilian marksmanship rifles from rifles captured at the end of WWII. One that I have is a Danish Schultz and Larsen built on a VZ 24 action. A bunch of them came into Canada over the last 10 years or so from Sweden and Denmark.
@dagobertkrikelin1587
@dagobertkrikelin1587 Жыл бұрын
I'm cammo with envy, perkele!
@nickthompson9697
@nickthompson9697 Жыл бұрын
I've always wanted one of those.
@dallesamllhals9161
@dallesamllhals9161 11 ай бұрын
13:25 I saw one in a sauna..in Finland! I miss the '00s 😞
@wunerwaffles
@wunerwaffles Жыл бұрын
The fact that you were able to find a left hand version is pretty cool
@paulcrusse7800
@paulcrusse7800 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all of your hard work. Are Finnish mosans affordable?
@masonhaggerty186
@masonhaggerty186 Жыл бұрын
Well not anymore. I had gotten most of mine 5 years ago or so for anywhere from 450 to 500. Now an M28/30 is pushing $1,000 and an M39 is 800.
@chrbonde
@chrbonde 11 ай бұрын
The bolt throw also looks a LOT smoother than the one on my M91/30. Also on mine, the sights were so off to the side from the factory, that they had to be drifted so far out that they look like they are about to fall of the front dovetail!
@bratarnolda1014
@bratarnolda1014 11 ай бұрын
This dude is amazing. No bull, no stupid jokes or content for the show
@nicklewis7291
@nicklewis7291 Жыл бұрын
I hope you never run out of cool guns to do videos about.
@Tekdruid
@Tekdruid Жыл бұрын
Finland used to absolutely dominate biathlon competitions with these.
@Book-bz8ns
@Book-bz8ns Жыл бұрын
That rifle just looks like fun to shoot.
@literaldirt
@literaldirt Жыл бұрын
you should do a video on the remington r5, not sure if it’s really noteworthy enough to make an entire video on it but i find it really cool and it’s probably my favorite ar15-esque rifle (idrk how to put it but i mean like the hk416, sig spear/mcx, those types of rifles)
@TheLemminkainen
@TheLemminkainen Жыл бұрын
i used this in army and loved it ! it gave me many numbs to shoulder
@nelsonbrum8496
@nelsonbrum8496 Жыл бұрын
I have one of those stocks. But just the stock. Previous owner broke it at the pistol grip, and "repaired" it. I've been planning on fixing it correctly, but I don't have a spare moist nugget to modify.
@osmoahma7561
@osmoahma7561 Жыл бұрын
I used to shoot TAK quite a bit, durin my service, together with TRG.
@556bc
@556bc Жыл бұрын
Gun Jesus's collection and dedication to international gun history makes me happy.
@aurigo_tech
@aurigo_tech Жыл бұрын
Beautiful rifle.
@kantenklaus9753
@kantenklaus9753 Жыл бұрын
The rifle reminds me of my HW 80 from my youth and that is not meant disrespectfully at all. It seems to me that the first shot has released very surprisingly : ).... I like the rifle!
@arikauraniemi9383
@arikauraniemi9383 5 ай бұрын
2/97 and I have a love/hate relationship with this rifle. Conscripts think it funny to always mess up the sights for the next guy and one day I got the "nakki" job to zero the diopters of 6 of these. They were the most messed up and I couldn't even hit the frames with some of them at first. Of course alone with no spotter. I walked back and forth that range like 20 km that day and my shoulder was blue for hundred+ rounds fired. This rifle has a bit of a kick to it. It's a good rifle though, nice trigger and you can hit bullseyes with the diopter at 300m range with ease once it's zeroed in... Looking back at it being sore all over was small price for having the range all day alone with this thing.
@dennisboulais7905
@dennisboulais7905 Жыл бұрын
Your reality shooting episodes are quite amusing. Combine forgetfulness with Murphy's law and you have a hit KZfaq channel! lol
@armchairwarrior963
@armchairwarrior963 Жыл бұрын
I have one and she is in the safe lol. Never use her. One of the few rifles NYC let me buy. I brought it from another state and transfer it to NYC lol. Now its in Tx and still not used :).
@Aq7
@Aq7 Жыл бұрын
Please make the next book about finnish ww2 weapons! Would be an immediate buy.
@454FatJack
@454FatJack Жыл бұрын
Ian has m/62 ”Duck” cap (camo ) hat❤ Enlisted men insignia. M/91 style jacket
@luizalex.7424
@luizalex.7424 Жыл бұрын
This is the guy the PU Mosin's girlfriend tells him not to worry about
@sealove79able
@sealove79able Жыл бұрын
A great very interesting video and rifle Gun Jesus. Is the wood furniture that thick and massive in order to provide some stability for shooting?Have a good one.
@SW0000A
@SW0000A Жыл бұрын
I have a great regret not bidding one one of these probably 12 years ago at a local auction. It had the scope base but didn't have the scope and didn't have a bipod on it. It went for like $650 and I missed out.
@_byrtsi
@_byrtsi 8 ай бұрын
I was wondering why the bipod looks weird. Now rewatching the bipod, you can see it coming off shot by shot
@g54b95
@g54b95 Жыл бұрын
The last shot was epic.
@Balzzack
@Balzzack 10 ай бұрын
Love this video. I bought one of these from centerfire systems and my buddy bought 2 . Mine didn’t have the scope mount just the target sights my buddies one had the mount no scope and the other the target sights.. I will have to look but I believe mine barrel was replaced? And it is marked m28/77 ? I have to look it’s been in the case for long time
@billstearns9566
@billstearns9566 Жыл бұрын
Most Mosins are very accurate if you feed them right. I load with Winchester brass, WLR primers, 174 grain SMK billets and 44 grains of Varget.
@mightress
@mightress Жыл бұрын
Yep, the surplus ammo socks. A Mosin isn't nearly as bad as Givin credit. They shoot well with good ammo.
@myh106
@myh106 Жыл бұрын
I was trying to figure out why this rifle looked really familiar, and it finally clicked: I started (re)playing Wasteland 3 recently, and one of the sniper rifles in the game is a "Perkele Model 85" that was clearly inspired by this. (The in-game description states that "Like Finns, these Finnish rifles require regular cleanings with Koskenkorva.")
@angry_wizard
@angry_wizard Жыл бұрын
Ah Rangers! Good to see you round!
@lwaldron9745
@lwaldron9745 8 ай бұрын
I'd be interested to know what's stamped on this rifle's receiver tang. Nice hexagon, so it could be something cool
@seppa1019
@seppa1019 Жыл бұрын
9 hole review has to try that!
@williamkoppos7039
@williamkoppos7039 3 ай бұрын
Wow, You scored Bigtime. Enjoy it.
@seanmatto2258
@seanmatto2258 Жыл бұрын
Ian, can you do the G44(m) or the Gerat 07. I heard it was a simplified version of the Gewehr 43 made by Mauser towards the end of the war but was cancelled due to the Sturmgewehr program of 44-45.
@joekahno
@joekahno Жыл бұрын
Just a bit of trivia, the novelest who wrote "Enemy at the Gates" spent years traveling eastern europe doing background research, then died some time after sending the completed manuscript off to the publisher. As a result he wasn't around when they did the cover art for the book, which was copied for some of the movie posters. The graphic artist doing the paste up, not knowing anything about firearms and working in a generally gun phobic industry mirrored the image of the rifle and nobody caught the mistake. It shows a true lefty M91-30, something that AFAIK never existed.
@codymansfield7358
@codymansfield7358 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see Rob Ski get his hands on that rifle. Great video.
@BeefaloBart
@BeefaloBart Жыл бұрын
Ashamed to admit this but... I got a call from a friend who ran a gunshop. He knew I liked Milsurp rifles but mostly the odd ones or bubba modified ones. He told me he had a bubba Mosin and he sold it to me for $250. It was one of these in right hand. It was missing the diopter sights and scope but had the mount. I put on a scope from my parts bin and shot it in. I liked it but the stock looked horrible, and I ended up selling it in a deal later on. He and I both thought it was just some bubba modified milsurp.
@bravo_cj
@bravo_cj Жыл бұрын
2:17 "The development of the Finnish AK is pretty well...Finnished" lol
@ihcfn
@ihcfn Жыл бұрын
That's a meaty report!
@scotblair3717
@scotblair3717 4 ай бұрын
Ian, can you share some of your historical sources? I am looking for historical documentation to identify this rifle variant as being a sniper rifle for the FDF, so I can convince the US Civilian Marksmanship Program to allow their use in the vintage sniper rifle matches. Thanks & keep up the great work!
@debi5292
@debi5292 Жыл бұрын
This rifle has Ian's name all over it. My bet is it will be one of his prize firearms from this day forward.
@illegalclown
@illegalclown Жыл бұрын
I remember when a batch of these came into the country like 20 years ago. I kinda wanted one, but they weren't C&R eligible because they weren't in original condition, or something, and my local shop didn't do transfers. Plus they were a little pricey.
@mikeearl4263
@mikeearl4263 Жыл бұрын
Around 2010, I purchased two from the Importer in TN. They, in fact, were C&R eligible and ranged in cost from approx 6 to 750.
@tomhenry897
@tomhenry897 Жыл бұрын
A lot then But cost more now
@Zerja
@Zerja Жыл бұрын
@@mikeearl4263 Me too. I bought one, and its very cool.
@Coltbreath
@Coltbreath Жыл бұрын
It’s awesome to see a Mossin action performing without Sticky Bolt 😊
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