The British Constitution (Part II)

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BritMonkey

BritMonkey

Күн бұрын

This episode: Reform vs Riot
00:00 Introduction
00:39 Somerset v Stewart (1772)
07:26 The Great Reform Act (1832)
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@lazarusmekhane439
@lazarusmekhane439 2 жыл бұрын
Earl Grey is someone I consider to be an absolute mad lad. He assisted in abolishing slavery twice (Foreign secretary in 1807 and PM in 1833), as well as starting the process for a fair and balanced government. As well as the fact that he solved all his problems by threatening to leave. Eventually fully quitting when problems with Ireland occurred, as they do. I'd also like to say he had 16 legitimate children, and spent equal time in government and with family.
@lazarusmekhane439
@lazarusmekhane439 2 жыл бұрын
@@Renaissance_Kamikaze That would be his father, also known as Charles Grey, 1st Earl Grey. He's most known as 'No Flint Grey' during the American Revolutionary War, where during an infiltration of a fort, he told his soldiers to not use the flint in their muskets and instead their bayonets, reducing the noise and light by the muskets. In the end he claimed the fort.
@edwardbrown3721
@edwardbrown3721 2 жыл бұрын
He also became tea
@loading9110
@loading9110 2 жыл бұрын
Good guy, awful tea.
@heistingcrusader_ad3223
@heistingcrusader_ad3223 2 жыл бұрын
@@loading9110 what makes you say that
@andyc9902
@andyc9902 2 жыл бұрын
Hooray for Earl grey
@boldblazervids
@boldblazervids 2 жыл бұрын
The long-awaited sequel is finally here!
@krieger8825
@krieger8825 2 жыл бұрын
Off with your head
@goldenhair
@goldenhair 2 жыл бұрын
Actually his long awaited sequel is The Woodrow Wilson Hate Day series.
@daemonspudguy
@daemonspudguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@goldenhair don't worry, it's coming. Probably.
@davidcarcamo5010
@davidcarcamo5010 2 жыл бұрын
Now we gotta tune in next month, and the next month, and the next month and the next month
@rendeer8822
@rendeer8822 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta love the "show something for a few frames then undo it because there actually isn't any" move, gets me everytime
@yourneighbour304
@yourneighbour304 2 жыл бұрын
The women voters bar had me in tears😂
@jellevanassem8786
@jellevanassem8786 2 жыл бұрын
Just to clarify, the English slaveship “Zong”was originaly a Dutch slaveship called “Zorg” which does translate to ‘care’ in dutch, but also to ‘burden’ and/or ‘worry’ depending on it’s use. “Zong” in dutch is the past tense op the english “Singing”, “Sang” Not that this detail is of any importance to the story.
@adammaxi
@adammaxi 2 жыл бұрын
was going to comment this but ah well
@seneca983
@seneca983 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Dutch was actually a fantasy language.
@ekszentrik
@ekszentrik 2 жыл бұрын
Neat, until you said Dutch it sounded like a villain from a sci-fi universe, but I now immediately see the relationship to German "Sorgen", which has the same meanings.
@mabimabi212
@mabimabi212 2 жыл бұрын
@@seneca983 Tolkein created the dutch language
@ZIEIaou
@ZIEIaou 2 жыл бұрын
@@ekszentrik also sorrow in english has the same root and a somewhat similar meaning. also zong would be sang in english and german
@MichChats
@MichChats 2 жыл бұрын
Brit: Tune in next month for part 3! Me: Bu... but, but it's the first of November?
@britishsoldier1186
@britishsoldier1186 2 жыл бұрын
ahhhhhhhhhh... time to wait
@tiagoprado7001
@tiagoprado7001 2 жыл бұрын
Who would've guessed that actual research and script writing takes time?
@heistingcrusader_ad3223
@heistingcrusader_ad3223 2 жыл бұрын
@@tiagoprado7001at least quality of video would surely skyrocket
@ztac_dex
@ztac_dex 2 жыл бұрын
a little bit more waiting
@DavidBennettPiano
@DavidBennettPiano 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I’ve been waiting for this one 🙂🙂👍🏼👍🏼
@rileybanks1191
@rileybanks1191 2 жыл бұрын
oh god it's the crossover of the century
@animatechap5176
@animatechap5176 2 жыл бұрын
Same, looking forward to your next radiohead reference
@tun444
@tun444 2 жыл бұрын
this series is criminally underrated but ive been waiting for this one a lot
@bunceman4613
@bunceman4613 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how these haven't gone viral yet. Such an interesting topic that we don't really get educated on in the UK, at least at my school.
@HomoLegalMedic
@HomoLegalMedic 10 ай бұрын
I didn't learn about any of this until I did my law degree, not even in A-level law was this ever mentioned.
@lynn4062
@lynn4062 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds as if these Tories were surley put out of power in the coming years and fell into obscurity with the feudal lords losing power. Anything else would be crazy.
@livwrighty
@livwrighty 2 жыл бұрын
shame they are still in power today lol
@martychisnall
@martychisnall 2 жыл бұрын
You do realise it’s the Tories who abolished slavery right?
@lynn4062
@lynn4062 2 жыл бұрын
@@martychisnall That is a really reductive and uninformed take.
@johnridout6540
@johnridout6540 2 жыл бұрын
@@martychisnall Abolished by 2nd Earl Grey, a Whig not a Tory.
@szemjuelhont3574
@szemjuelhont3574 Жыл бұрын
@@martychisnall they didn't. It literally says it in the video
@sivvinod3187
@sivvinod3187 2 жыл бұрын
Yes we don't like being ruled by a tea company Our tea is good enough
@davidelabarile1634
@davidelabarile1634 2 жыл бұрын
yea coffee is better ;)
@TheHorseOutside
@TheHorseOutside 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidelabarile1634 heresy.
@davidelabarile1634
@davidelabarile1634 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheHorseOutside no yuo are heretic yuo dont know how good is italian coffee... and also horses in my town are a speciality so... yuo look so deliciuos to me;)
@TheHorseOutside
@TheHorseOutside 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidelabarile1634 you look illiterate to me mate
@stupifyingstupedity2112
@stupifyingstupedity2112 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheHorseOutside Don't shame his very specific dyslexia! Yuo wuoldn't understand!!
@Edmonton-of2ec
@Edmonton-of2ec 2 жыл бұрын
The Grey Ministry was certainly interesting. Y’all remember that election in 1831 that happened? The King, William IV, called that not only because of Grey’s scheme to expand Whig seats, but because the Tories were implacably opposed to a dissolution, so much so that in the Lords, the 3rd Marquess of Londonderry threatened to start whipping pro-government aristocrats and had to be restrained by 4 other peers, the King then entering and dissolving Parliament in a scene that can only be described as chaotic
@SemiIocon
@SemiIocon 2 жыл бұрын
I wrote a paper last semester about the Victorian London Clubscene (club land, where the rich boys were drinking and networking) and because that Reform Bill was so all-important in that day and age, I even had to talk about that for a solid 15 % of that paper, lmao.
@BradChase-sg4vh
@BradChase-sg4vh 5 ай бұрын
Superb work my friend. The graphics are great, whole work is very concise and cogent and to the point
@pratikfuke_indiracollegeof7535
@pratikfuke_indiracollegeof7535 2 жыл бұрын
Just watched all your video in a day And I love your way of narrative. Just continue to makes such interesting and awesome video
@filmpjesman1
@filmpjesman1 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Professor Layton music, perfect for this series!
@edwardtroth8630
@edwardtroth8630 2 жыл бұрын
YES!!! Been looking forwards to this one!
@CyberMartian890
@CyberMartian890 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@MrCrazyeyes07
@MrCrazyeyes07 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Mr. Monkey! Really looking forward to part III of this two part series.
@maclinkastex3059
@maclinkastex3059 2 жыл бұрын
Please, in the next video, mention the time liberals tried to approve a *land value tax,* along many more tax reforms in the 1909 People's Budget. It was, once again, blocked by the House of Lords in 1910, and, once again, lead to a political crisis.
@acchaladka
@acchaladka 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic suggestion.
@Lighthammer18
@Lighthammer18 6 күн бұрын
Just out of interest, have they ever blocked something that they really should be blocking?
@loptater9681
@loptater9681 2 жыл бұрын
I've only discovered your channel like 2 months ago but I've already become a huge fan, especially of all the insight into British topics that usually don't get discussed as much. Keep up the good work!
@jeanlov5398
@jeanlov5398 2 жыл бұрын
god i can't wait for the third one. This is great! You are truly a hidden gem and i am glad youtube recommended me your vids
@WanukeX
@WanukeX 2 жыл бұрын
As a Canadian who is a nerd over our constitution, this is a very fun series to watch, since our constitution uses a lot of the same documents / Constitutional Conventions but also added some federalist twists. Thank you for putting this together!
@StainOfLuxury
@StainOfLuxury 2 жыл бұрын
This is so incredibly entertaining and informed, I’m excited for part 3! :-)
@mps2112
@mps2112 2 жыл бұрын
Great video again, looking forward to part 3!!
@isaackringe4435
@isaackringe4435 2 жыл бұрын
I have a cold and have been binge watching your channel, super entertaining stuff my guy!
@hismajestykingdillon7376
@hismajestykingdillon7376 2 жыл бұрын
Been so looking forward to this video
@goose6112
@goose6112 2 жыл бұрын
Babe wake up new britmonkey video
@Ptaku93
@Ptaku93 2 жыл бұрын
3:08 you ommitted "thank God!"
@nadrini300
@nadrini300 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! Very informative and entertaining! 😃😃😃
@OffshoreEntrepreneur
@OffshoreEntrepreneur Жыл бұрын
As a company that provides services to expats and citizens leaving the west I think a more updated and concise constitution in a single document such as you recommended would help a lot of our British clients feel more at ease about the countries future. Great video we really enjoyed it.
@boransahin3400
@boransahin3400 2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this, love the videos
@whenyoucantfindaname
@whenyoucantfindaname 2 жыл бұрын
The Return Of The King
@grumpiesttitan7930
@grumpiesttitan7930 2 жыл бұрын
He's been gone for 2 weeks
@PakBallandSami
@PakBallandSami 2 жыл бұрын
thanks it is always interesting to learn about other constitution and laws etc
@DeMotuCordis
@DeMotuCordis 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh, just finished all your videos mate, keep up the good work!
@PedroCosta-po5nu
@PedroCosta-po5nu 2 жыл бұрын
During said 1800's period, Brazil passed the said "laws to the English see" (sry if mistranslated), like the "lei Eusébio de Queiroz" that freed slaves above 60 years old, now i want you to think about, which slave would live to be 60 years old.
@vulpes7079
@vulpes7079 2 жыл бұрын
Thing is, these were piecemeal decisions that were meant not to ban slavery, but to lay the groundwork for a gradual abolition of it in the 1880s. The Liberals and the Emperor weren't at all happy about that, but the landowners weren't yet happy to give up their slaves until the latter half of the 1880s
@samuelstroud5059
@samuelstroud5059 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot express how fascinating this is
@adeadkid
@adeadkid 2 жыл бұрын
Guys remember when he said "tune in next month"
@isaac10231
@isaac10231 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, but looking into the Slavery Abolition Act of 1833 it appears that the debt being paid of in 2015 was really a technicality, as opposed to an accurate representation of how large the loan was.
@johnpijano4786
@johnpijano4786 2 жыл бұрын
I really love your videos. Keep it up.
@siarhian10
@siarhian10 2 жыл бұрын
this video is literally on the exact period i had to do for my history AS. where was this when I needed it
@Connor-vj7vf
@Connor-vj7vf 2 жыл бұрын
Slave trade was a horror and a stain on the world but it's worth remembering that almost every civilization has had slaves. The British Empire remains the only empire to voluntarily free slaves of its own accord. How many other empires have driven themselves in to a 150 year debt for ethical reasons? I'm not excusing or minimising the evil of it but that's still worth noting
@davidelabarile1634
@davidelabarile1634 2 жыл бұрын
denmark do it before 1807 so....
@Connor-vj7vf
@Connor-vj7vf 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidelabarile1634 Fair enough, I take your point. Still, it was more intrinsic to the economy of the British Empire than to the Danes
@davidelabarile1634
@davidelabarile1634 2 жыл бұрын
@@Connor-vj7vf hey... denmark do it in 1803 and for everthing being the first state to abolish slavery and is trade...its true..its true i im not saying that denmark do more work to abolish slavery but just arrive first... and also denmark as colonies in africa and in the wes indies and thats territory were slavery was there...
@livwrighty
@livwrighty 2 жыл бұрын
great video! shame Part 3 will not be here before my UK Constitution exam next week lol!
@leonst.7471
@leonst.7471 2 жыл бұрын
Still happy that I found you in my recommends
@lmbtcs1879
@lmbtcs1879 2 жыл бұрын
Im following this series with great interest
@Mixcoatl
@Mixcoatl 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think people have a problem with Britain's role in the slave trade being discussed. It's the fact some people pretend that the only people who did slavery were the British that I have a problem with. They act like it was unique to us, while entirely ignoring, or simply being ignorant of, slavery literally everywhere else in the world for literally all of time since the invention of agriculture. Viewed in that context, the lengths we went to to abolish slavery is kind of incredible, and I do think we should be proud of it.
@zagreus1249
@zagreus1249 2 жыл бұрын
You are correct, in all corners of the world The concept of slavery existed in one way or another, as you said it is not exclusively European. All people in all of the continents practiced slavery even the africans enslaved other africans that’s before the scramble for Arica.
@goofynose2520
@goofynose2520 2 жыл бұрын
Loving this series!
@apidas
@apidas 2 жыл бұрын
finally, what I'm waiting for
@actually-will1606
@actually-will1606 2 жыл бұрын
As someone from the UK these videos have been great!
@AdamoOo0official
@AdamoOo0official 2 жыл бұрын
Really like your videos, a perfect way to escape life, its like im meditating for 10 minut, i sow a bunch of them and i fell soooo relaxed
@simeonbradstock4214
@simeonbradstock4214 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant thanks!!
@BusSee69
@BusSee69 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe I’ve watched every single one of your videos.
@evanprinsloo6412
@evanprinsloo6412 2 жыл бұрын
Complements. Such thrilling presentations.
@thonkingintensifies9510
@thonkingintensifies9510 2 жыл бұрын
Love these keep making them
@talavera2094
@talavera2094 2 жыл бұрын
11:38 Ah, yes, nothing better than the soundtrack of a British gentleman saving Britain from destruction in a footage of Britain being destroyed.
@wannabeaussie5809
@wannabeaussie5809 2 жыл бұрын
babe wake up new britmonkey vid just dropped
@quiyoma3730
@quiyoma3730 2 жыл бұрын
Danm it man make channel member already I adore these videos keep it up!
@t111ran3
@t111ran3 2 жыл бұрын
I like this video, thank you. It is more interesting that I have thought It'd be
@neuralwarp
@neuralwarp 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to Episode 3 ..
@JaBoss397
@JaBoss397 2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this
@Alex-ur3vt
@Alex-ur3vt 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid, keep this up!
@suolapillu
@suolapillu 2 жыл бұрын
Yay new video from britmonkey!l
@ikjet648
@ikjet648 2 жыл бұрын
Actually 10x better than my constitutional law module at uni
@velhaw8737
@velhaw8737 2 жыл бұрын
I love this video. Very nice video.
@mathextsgd1992
@mathextsgd1992 2 жыл бұрын
here we go, get your popcorn
@khanaratsadon
@khanaratsadon 2 жыл бұрын
yay part 2
@fuu1083
@fuu1083 2 жыл бұрын
This was wonderful
@mycology5242
@mycology5242 2 жыл бұрын
Best history class I never had
@kpopemotrash8799
@kpopemotrash8799 2 жыл бұрын
Literally squealed at Bob Hale
@flux202
@flux202 2 жыл бұрын
It's been a month BRITTY.
@TioDeive
@TioDeive 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video!
@nisnast
@nisnast 2 жыл бұрын
Liking and commenting just to foment the algorithm, go, spread this video to the masses!
@unclassifiedsignal
@unclassifiedsignal 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@Noired
@Noired 2 жыл бұрын
This is very interesting!
@david-rr8pi
@david-rr8pi 2 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍
@sheep21
@sheep21 2 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable
@sopek1427
@sopek1427 11 ай бұрын
This need a part III
@landsea7332
@landsea7332 Ай бұрын
To add, there was the Chartist Movement that began circa 1836 , who wanted 6 Points - A vote for every man over the age of 21 - Secret Ballots - Non Land Owning males could vote - Payment for MP's - Ridings have equal sizes - Regular Elections .
@u-sintiau8824
@u-sintiau8824 2 жыл бұрын
Part III when?
@Timevod
@Timevod 2 жыл бұрын
Omg it's finally here!!!
@priyashukla805
@priyashukla805 2 жыл бұрын
when uuh mentioned that we patted ourselves for 250 years of a good job and forgot the 200 years of wrong we did...i immediately knew..uuh are a awsm man
@boxman6054
@boxman6054 2 жыл бұрын
still on the wait for the third part will it come out one day or not ?
@harrytmm
@harrytmm 2 жыл бұрын
Still waiting on part 3
@bethyngalw
@bethyngalw 2 жыл бұрын
"slavery was never illegal in England" is not entirely true. William I defacto made slavery illegal. He prohibited the sale of slaves from England to overseas, and he emancipated slaves in Wales. Because slavery in that period was generally the purview of conquering foreigners who capture unfortunate locals after the battle and sell them elsewhere, the law covered the primary practice of slave trading, and made it punishable by a fine. The Norman nobility viewed the slave trade as morally abhorrent, and discouraged it and the Church likewise declared slavery morally abhorrent. By the 1120s there were no more slaves in England. The reason the 18th Century slavers could get around the law, was because the law prohibited the sale of slaves _from England to overseas,_ in other words, buying and selling foreigners on foreign land wasn't covered by the ban. They claimed the law only covered British people. They also claimed that bringing a slave to Britain, given that the person was already a slave, wasn't impacted by the law. This was what the court case over Somerset was about: whether or not, (as he was now on English soil and slavery is illegal on English soil), it was legal for Somerset to still be classed as a slave once he landed on English soil and therefore returned. This resulted as you said, in the Empire eventually declaring that any 'English soil' anywhere in the Empire counted as automatic emancipation. Much to the chagrin of the slave plantation owners in the Caribbean. But the reason they couldn't just 'emancipate the slaves' in the plantations was because of an aspect of law that requires that if any law is changed, or any new law is enacted, those who committed the practice before the law was made cannot be held to have done anything illegal, as the law was not on the statute books when they committed the 'offense'. As a result, the slavers who already owned slaves couldn't be held responsible for doing something which was legal back when it happened. So the government decided to buy the slaves to free them instead, to avoid the inevitable legal conflict that would arise from having a law against slavery and yet having entire plantations full of technically-legal slaves throughout the Empire. Fun fact on the Rotten Boroughs. Historians believe that the only reason that England didn't have a revolution at that time was because the political will of the general population was redirected into spiritual fervour by the Methodist Revival. Basically, the people found Jesus and decided that concentrating on the morality of their own lives was more important than changing the politics of the nation by force. However, the Revival had a long-term political influence, as the Methodists decided to raise up reformers to enter parliament and other political offices in order to make change from within the system. It's believed that this drive of religious MPs was the reason why the UK ended up with male universal suffrage when it did.
@bethyngalw
@bethyngalw 2 жыл бұрын
@@---675 That's a debated point. I actually researched the earliest evidence of race as a social construct in anticipation for a Masters that I was going to be doing in the slave trade (covid and ill health have put it on hold alas). But, I found that it went back far further than the modern narrative believes. Yes, the conventional wisdom was that ideas about race were to legitimize mistreating the slaves, because obviously when you admit somebody is a human being like yourself, you have to consider how much you'd like somebody to do to you what you are doing to them. The easiest way to get around that is dehumanisation, and that's a method that people have used for centuries to excuse their behavior towards their enemies. So the theory is sound to some degree. The conventional narrative says that dehumanisation by race was something Europeans came up with to excuse what they were doing, as it didn't fit in their moral framework. (Europe was mostly slave-free before they engaged in the trans-Atlantic slave trade, because of that moral framework frowning on slavery). The conventional narrative also makes a big thing of the fact that it was believed that the Greco-Roman civilization didn't really have the same idea of race as we do. Instead Romans' attitude to how 'human' you were was down to how culturally like a Roman you were. As a result, anybody could be considered a civilized person, it was just down to education. A wealthy sub-Saharan African Roman citizen was just as valid a person as a wealthy Italian. Or so the idea goes. The way they dehumanised their slaves was to view them as 'barbarians'/savages: people who lacked skills and refinement, and therefore deserving of conquest and enslavement, to civilize them. The problem I found with this view, is that the history of anti-black racism goes back a lot further than this theory proposes. Firstly we find it in the Islamic slave trade (which was in some senses even worse than the trans-Atlantic trade). When the Europeans went to Africa, they encountered the pre-existing slave trade. Greedily they decided to get involved. The Arab traders didn't just teach them how to trade in slaves, they shared with them their attitudes about the African slaves. Most of the racist themes and ideas we find expressed by Europeans in the 19th Century about black people, we find in the Islamic record going back at least to the 8th-9th Century. The idea that black skin was a curse from God so that Arabs would know who was a slave and who was a free man comes directly from the History of the World by Al Tabari. The idea that black people were intrinsically stupid, also appears in numerous early Islamic sources. But the Arabs were not the source of this attitude. They had picked it up from obscure Talmudic Jewish works in Babylon which early Muslims used for supplementary spiritual guidance. Judaism was not responsible for it either. Rather, back when the Talmud was being written in the 200-300 AD era, it seems to have been a pervasive attitude in North Africa, the Roman Empire and the Persian Empire as far east as Iraq today. In fact we see a famous black Christian monk in 200 AD bemoaning his ugliness and his worthlessness at being born black. And claiming that to be black was to be sub-human. So we see that in the mid-Roman period, this idea that black skin made you inferior was already pervasive enough to have found its way into Jewish, Christian, and Islamic sources. (Even though this is where we find the examples, they won't have been the only places such views were expressed. Instead, these are the sources most likely to survive, because their religious communities preserved them, where other texts were not prized. Nor would everybody have agreed with them obviously; they are just examples). We do find it in the pagan Roman physician Galen's works, he describes how people with dark skin are naturally cheerful but stupid. But he assigned similar negative traits to every possible human feature you could imagine, from straight nose to squat shoulders, to straight hair, to pink cheeks...etc etc. So quite how and why this one idea clung on when all the other ideas about facial features didn't, I don't know, and I've yet to find a solid reason in the historical record. I may never find one, because the further back in history you go, the fewer texts survive. All I can say for certain, is that the idea that anti-black racism is a recent, European idea, is false, and it seems to have been a pervasive racist stereotype for a very, very long time.
@bethyngalw
@bethyngalw 2 жыл бұрын
@@---675 It was surprising to me too. As to the reason, it's not an easy thing to establish, because I cannot get inside a person's head now, let alone when they lived 1000-2000 years ago. So we can only guess based on the clues that they left us. But if we don't know the origin of the idea, because it's lost to history, I can at least say that the perpetuation of the anti-black racism seems to have been down to religion. I do not mean that any religion, or group of religious people, had it as a central tenet of their faith that black people were inferior. Nor do I think that the average person who followed any of the religions believed that black people were inferior. Instead what I mean, is that when you make an idea religious, it holds power in a way that other ideas do not. Consider if you are a devout follower of a religion, and you read in the opinions of the religious sages that black people are stupid or inferior, or even cursed by God, what would you do? If you say "I don't agree with that" you are potentially going against your god. Your God may not agree with this idea that black people are inferior, but as an ordinary follower you have limited (or no) way of knowing that. You're not a sage yourself. So you read this sage saying black people are inferior and cursed by God, and suddenly there's a pressure on you to believe it, lest you go against your God. The idea may be completely false but already it's got a hold on you. "Thus sayeth the Lord" is the most potent and dangerous weapon in history. I sometimes feel it has caused more damage and wars than anything else. You tell people "God says so" and any person who believes in the same god is trapped. (side note: I am still researching, so if I focus on Islam for this example, it's just because that's where the majority of my expertise is until I study more.) This seems to have been what happened at least in Islam. Islam believes that the writings of the Jews and Christians are sacred. So early Islamic scholars searched the Jewish and Christian writings for nuggets of wisdom. They searched works that the Jews and Christians themselves wouldn't have seen as sacred, such as the Talmud and the late gnostic writings. But early Islamic scholars assumed these were the sacred works and so took them far more seriously than any Jew or Christian would have. So in the Talmud there is a discussion about the son of Noah, who is called Ham (his name means 'hot' in Hebrew). Ham committed a sin by mocking his father Noah when Noah was naked, (this story is found in the book of Genesis in the Bible). And Noah actually puts a curse on Ham's son, and says that one of Ham's sons will be a slave to his uncles (Ham's brothers), because of the crime Ham committed. In the Talmud (the encyclopaedia of Jewish debates and discussions), several Rabbis make a sort of joke about Ham's cheeks burning "hot as coals" in embarrassment at his crime. Ham = hot. It's just a funny play on words. But here's where the "thus sayeth the Lord" begins to muddy the waters. Later Rabbis in the Talmud seem to have taken this seriously, not understanding perhaps that it was a joke, and instead of seeing red cheeks blushing, they see the word 'coals' and think that means that Noah's curse made Ham's skin black. It's just an obscure debate over an obscure verse, and it's doubtful most Jews even knew the Talmud discussion on this subject even existed. The Talmud is huge, in size it would be like browsing wikipedia. An obscure discussion on a minor wikipedia page wouldn't draw much attention. But the Muslim scholars are reading the Talmud looking for wisdom, and they find this statement about Ham's family being slaves, and Ham's skin being black through a curse, and they assume that means that black people are cursed into being destined to be slaves. Because it's in what they think is sacred writing, they took this statement even more seriously than the confused Jewish rabbis did. This must be from God. So they now feel a pressure to believe it. Add to that some things that Muhammad said: For example he said the devil looked like a black man called Nabtal ibn al-Harith. It seems doubtful he meant the man's physical appearance. The man in question regularly mocked Muhammad and took his sayings back to Muhammad's enemies so that they could laugh at him. So, if you take it figuratively, Muhammad is saying "this double-crossing guy is like the devil" and not "this is what the devil's physical appearance is". But again, like the Rabbis, the further removed you are from the person who originally made the statement, the harder it is to figure out if the comment is in jest, or figurative, and so later on Islamic scholars took Muhammad literally, and assumed he meant the skin color. He also said that anything black was evil, because that was the symbolic color of darkness, and as a result told people they should not wear black clothes, and they should kill black dogs. There's no evidence he extended this to humans, it was essentially an overly simplistic symbolism of light vs darkness, good vs evil, that he spread to cover pigment too. But the danger of making the inference from white=good, black=bad; to white skin=good, black skin=bad is considerable. Some people obviously made that logic leap, whether Muhammad intended them to or not. To the extent that after Muhammad's death, a devout Muslim leader declared that anybody who said Muhammad was not white skinned should be put to death. How could he be dark skinned if dark things like black clothes were evil? Fear and literalism, and religious fervour again making a mess. Shortly after the emergence of Islam there is a very sad quote from an African convert in the Middle East, where he basically bemoans the fact that before Islam Arabs let black men marry their daughters, and now under this new religion they do not. And how he is viewed as a second-class citizen in spite being a Muslim himself. So this idea spread fast. Now, all three religions contain anti-racist statements, about the equality of all humans, and how it's wrong to discriminate. So again, this is not a core belief in any religion. But it was a vein of poison that some people picked up on, and it spread through the culture like a toxin through the body. Sufficient people believed it for racism to spread, and because it had the backing of "thus sayeth the Lord", it was hard to stomp it out, no matter how many egalitarian all-people-are-equal statements any given religious leader promoted. I'm sorry that was such a long read. I don't often get to talk about this research, it's a very delicate topic, and it's not easy to outline it gently. If I use fewer words I fear that I may be misunderstood.
@bethyngalw
@bethyngalw 2 жыл бұрын
@@---675 Yeah, I find that religion is generally a force for good, in history. Some of our most dominant egalitarian ideas developed out of religions. Anti-slavery and Abolition came from religion as well. But all too frequently people have used religion as a manipulation tool, or simply misunderstood it, and when that happens, it can do considerable damage.
@bethyngalw
@bethyngalw 2 жыл бұрын
@@---675 there's no question that religions have caused a lot of damage. They are a very easy way to unify people under some kind of tribalistic banner. Humans have an instinct towards tribalism; "us vs them". Religion is an easy go-to for tribalistic tendencies in humans. But there are many others; race and ethnicity, culture, and political ideology being the most obvious. Humans are very good at thinking of "us" as human and "them" as less-human, regardless of what originally unified their group. In any case, I think perhaps you'd find the work of Tom Holland (not the actor, the historian) interesting. He explores the effects of religion on history in his book Dominion. It's really an eye-opening book.
@TheMannyx17
@TheMannyx17 5 күн бұрын
Glad to see the tories haven't changed at all.
@mariael2620
@mariael2620 2 жыл бұрын
The background music sounds so much like a professor Layton ost or is it just me cause it is a video about England ?
@fishinmalarkey9830
@fishinmalarkey9830 2 жыл бұрын
Whoooohoooo! Part twooooo!
@elijahlogan294
@elijahlogan294 2 жыл бұрын
Your a great Historian!
@thegooselord4978
@thegooselord4978 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! As a Northumbrian it makes me happy to see Earl Grey gain recognition.
@SelenaC_anime
@SelenaC_anime 2 жыл бұрын
ayyyy Professor Layton music
@lorefox201
@lorefox201 2 жыл бұрын
couldn't even bring yourself to say Thank God lol XD
@fishyfish6050
@fishyfish6050 2 жыл бұрын
Are you thinking of making a video on when a british hawker hunter fired a missile and it turned around and tried to kill the plane it was fired from?
@BradChase-sg4vh
@BradChase-sg4vh 5 ай бұрын
It's fundamental to learn about the constitution of UK as it has shaped the modern philosophy of politics and learn from their mistakes as well.
@evovn5835
@evovn5835 2 жыл бұрын
where is part 3?
@trystanexul5681
@trystanexul5681 2 жыл бұрын
next month i cry
@British_loyalist
@British_loyalist 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@CyberMartian890
@CyberMartian890 Жыл бұрын
Loved it
@hiddel3358
@hiddel3358 2 жыл бұрын
What editing software is that at 0:28? Anyway, good video 👍
@dasetman
@dasetman 2 жыл бұрын
Adobe Premier
@superduck4945
@superduck4945 2 жыл бұрын
Happy 100k subscribers
@MammothChats
@MammothChats 2 жыл бұрын
Dang it you beat me too it >:D
@sweetsalt8676
@sweetsalt8676 2 жыл бұрын
May i know where the first 5 seconds of this video originated from?
@martychisnall
@martychisnall 2 жыл бұрын
The buying and selling of slavery has been illegal in England since the 12th century , when in 1102, the Church Council of London convened by Anselm issued a decree: "Let no one dare hereafter to engage in the infamous business, prevalent in England, of selling men like animals." However, the Council had no legislative powers, and no act of law was valid unless signed by the monarch. The influence of the new Norman aristocracy led to the decline of slavery in England. Contemporary writers noted that the Scottish and Welsh took captives as slaves during raids, a practice which was no longer common in England by the 12th century. By the start of the 13th century references to people being taken as slaves stopped. According to historian John Gillingham, by about 1200 slavery in the British Isles was non-existent.
@SomePotato
@SomePotato 2 жыл бұрын
You know people are serious when they burn down the pubs.
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