MAAT should make their slogan.. “Sounds so good you can’t even hear it!”

At that price you might as well just start saving up for a hardware EQ. Or better yet, buy ALL the Fabfilter plugins for 675 euro. Ridiculous.

You could also include Ozone 10 EQ and Pro-Q3 just to see if they outperform MATT eq as well haha! Nice vid Paul, as always :)

Thanks! Very good review!

Heeey! What do you think about my test? Owning thEQorange? Or msybe Kirchhoff? Lemme know down below!

hey Paul !! love your videos !!

A lot of times when you see plug-ins that cost a lot it's because the company had to outsource the programming of the plug-in. The reason waves plug-ins are so cheap is because they have in-house programmers that write the code for all the plug-ins.

I use Kirchoff presently, It does what it's needs to do as a studio tool, I love it. I'm also I'm looking forward to the Fabfilter Pro Q3 update (Q4), that said, on all the songs released this decade using either kirchoff or proQ3 or hardware EQ's Not sure what MAAT are doing tbh. Have a great week =o)

I truly believe that companies like Maat encourage piracy.

I remember around 2017 or 2018 when this orange eq was introduced and if i am not mistaking it cost around 1000 dollars….. no further comment. Now you NEED to make a shoot out between kirchhof and the weiss eq 1 please.

Hi there! I have both Kirchhoff and the MaatEQ Blue with the FiDef Algorithm. As I can see, you have the Fidef Algorithm switched on in the EQOrange which could explain the distortion. On their Website the FiDef Algorithm is explained as follows: "Think of a common, non-harmonic, sub-audible signal all good engineers use to linearize digital audio; dither. The FiDef system also generates an anharmonic, sub-audible broadband signal." I recommend that you switch off the algorithm and test it again 😊. YOURS SINCERELY from Germany.

Paul, can you justify cramping in any modern digital EQ that is fixed only through oversampling? Especially if it's $600 EQ Btw, there is this button in PluginDoctor "1|2" that shows the difference between two curves, so it's easier to match them, have you tried that?

Hey Folia... if you read this. What is that track you played at the end with the piano and mechanical textures? I want to listen to it.

Thanks for nerding out. Kirchoff is my go to percision eq. The Kirchhof you easily get around 50 to 70 dollars if you sign up to plugin Alliance newsletter or buy any of their other plugins. I paid $30 for my Kirchhof which is a ridiclous deal. I remember when Maat plugins came along, many people were falling for the hype. I don't know anyone that has Maat as their go to for anything anymore . Like you say the prices from Maat are absurd and their products are at best nothing special.

I love your vids. They feel very close

Having to set up 2 lowpass filters to get a steeper slope is ridiculous in 2023. They should step up their game a bit if they wanna keep the price tag. The filters being nonlinear is actually a good thing imo. Too many transparent EQs out there that sound completely the same. I want more ones like Volcano, where adding a filter also drives around its frequency.

Honestly I don't care what it sounds like cause the original price of this EQ was $800+ Not paying hardware prices for plugins!!!! Love the video & Kirchoff Eq😊

apparently orange it good for high pass/lp. and blue better for analog vibe, red I think good for cuts. Please someone correct me. I too prefer the erganomics or Kirchhoff eq, maybe meat in the future could add slopes on the hp lp. Great shootout Paul :) I think the meat eq has zero phase so a more solid low end ? Anyway, very interesting video Paul... :)

"I don't get the marketing policies of MAAT." What a polite way to say it...

ps kirchoff has two different settings for low-end if you missed that- new one for "tighter" low end, old one is "bigger." neber pulled them up in plugin doctor to see what was what

Yes The Kirchhoff seem to retain the bass energy better

Transients and bass are better on Kirchhoff. We can lisent pre ringing on Orange, that why kick seam washy.🙃

Could you compare Kirchhoff EQ vs FabFilter ProQ3?

the MAAT one has more pre-ringing

DMG Equillibrium is still one of the finest digital eq's out there, but Kirchhoff is still right up there imo

Thanks for the video very interesting, can you please compare it with the Massenburg Eq 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

Kirchhoff definitely has more ‘knock’ to the transients, MAAT seems a bit softer like an SSL

Hehe kolejny mit runął ja Kocham mojego Kirchofa oraz ProQ do tego pasywki i jest jak chce ale to cudeńko w cenie dobrego DAW technicznie to trabant w budzie Jaguara trochę słabo czy mistrzostwo polegające na magii ceny

Doesn't MAAT eq's use some proprietary form of dithering? Which might explain it not being a clean eq.

MAAT think we're stupid haha, the reality is that u can have a professional result using DAW stock EQ. but actually i use kirchhoff por a reason, cos i can create a boilerpalte where i can have a ssl lowcut, a lowboost from pultec, a couple of bell in mids from ssl, a high bell from neve, and another from soundetck and the highself from maag, all of those curves in the same plugin, and that, for me, is gold.

MDWEQ6 could be another nice comparison.

Would have been nice, if you'd have shown the transient behaviour difference by a phase invert with (null-test) matched curves, so we could actually hear the difference and be sure to not fall into bias. I'm not sure, if the rest of your tests are sound (bedum-tss), but if not Dan Worrall is coming for you... Also what about the workflow? - That's arguably even more important than it's cleanliness. (Since that is more or less in the inaudible spectrum) Edit: You did mention that Kirchhoff has the superior workflow, though no specifics. - Next time I will also watch the end of the video before starting to type my comment... XD Edit 2: You also can show the validity of non-pre-ringing Linear-Phase statement and compare it easily by bouncing a one-sample-peak (or how you call it). Would have been cool to see how it is affected differently. Also bringing the issue of natural phase into perspective would be nice, since it is painted as this ominous force, that can ruin your whole mix... which it most of the time really isn't.

Would be carefull with the linear phase settings on kirchoff, there is no point to have that activated on full mix, that will introduce pre ringing a bit and smear the transients, so the comparsion then is not much objective afaik. Dont know about the maat phase response tho

I wld def take the proq3 and promb over either of these! Sorry but $100 is about as high as I cld go on any digital eq or plug in!

Sounds the almost the same, you should compare the waveforms... would be interesting. 600 bucks for an eq is insane.

MAAT is made by the daughters of Zeus! It is beyond poor mortal souls!! Only the chosen ones can appreciate what it can really do!!! LOL

Hm, to be honest, for me the difference in sound is unnoticeable, maybe because of YT compression. Kirchhoff EQ and FabFilter Pro-EQ3 are definitely good enough for my home studio, so MAAT theEQorange would be a waste of money :)

interesting

I wanted to like maat but maybe my ears don’t work or my monitoring isn’t good enough, but it was impossible for me to properly test because the latency on the maat is outrageous. I swear I’d make a move and 3 seconds later “think” I hear something.

That's hilarious. For those who only want the best possible in digital processing....I have the world's very best Dither available for you.... Only $700 🙃🤣 I'm not even a fan of using linier phase EQ in the vast majority of situations..... Unless you like subtle ringing.... Natural EQ in the real world involves some phase

And what about smarteq 3 in this comparison ?

How does Kirchoff compete with Algorithmix Orange?

In kirchhoff a Q of 1 represents a Q of ~0.71 in most EQ plugins like pro-q or reaEQ, with the exception of their bell curves, which has the same Q value as other plugins (kirchhoff Q=1 = othereq Q=1), not sure if this applies to thEQorange as well. Dan Worrall goes into more detail about the specifics in his video comparing Pro-Q 3 against kirchhoff

The q factor is based on music intervals..so i think you should be useing same Q

A company charging 600 bucks for a digital clean eq software would be suspicious right off the bat befor any test already. But this is bad.

Here is another view on this: Those settings are plain bad both for thEQorange and the settings used on the Kirchhoff. The fact that Kirchhoff "puked less"/had less ringing has more to do with that they work in different ways than "one of them is clearly better than the other". The wonderful world of EQs are not that black and white. Both of them were used in the wrong way. I use both of these almost daily, for different things. I have also compared them to most other good digital EQs, and thEQorange is still my first choice for solving one certain very common issue. I still clearly think that Kirchhoff is an EQ that would be a much better choice for most, even if they would cost the same. However, for those who already went through most of the best plugins and hardware for mastering (like me), then thEQorange can be a nice addition to the rest of the setup.

If Maat is in the position of covering salaries by asking insane money for standard plug-ins things get out of hand. If they would sell it at 15% of its current price they world definitely make more money out of it.

i don't like maat i've tried all of their stuff .........great show my friend!!!!

Don't see the point of kirchhoff , pro Q is the best one ...

12:29 this is DC-Filtering to not f* up your converters and speakers.

$588 for a plug-in?!!!!!!! I thought it was inexpensive hardware when I clicked on the video! That's the kind of money for a fully fledged professional DAW! How??... Why???.... No, no, no, just NO! No way!

I think maat stock in time, like other developers. I remember seeing OrangeEQ in a dvd mastering tutorial with Fridemann Tischmeyer from 2007. Now he works with maat I think. Maybe at that time orange Eq was the finest, but now we have the Kirchhoff and Fabfilter and other players.

QRange by lkjb

It's funny people think a digital eq is better than other digital eq. If we talk workflow yes but quality is complete BS .

that is exactly what Maat want, dirtier sound, just like old time, vintage sound with modern GUI... Kirchoff in the other hand, actually give vintage tube, etc, but i think it's too clean, no harmonic whatsoever, just a simple Q things... i actually disappointed with Kirchoff about that. But don't get me wrong, maat should make a better more informative GUI and feature for that price tag...

Lol…$589 for this??//. It’s completely Ridiculous

Hello Paweł, Couple of things… 1) As it says on the product page and user docs, thEQorange is a remedial equalizer. thEQorange is designed for low and mid frequency cuts. It’s not a general purpose equalizer. thEQred (linear phase), thEQblue (minimum phase) are our general purpose thEQs. All three sound different and all three were designed for different purposes and uses. 2) Sorry, but your approach in this particular video is not , ahem, scientific. It is an “apples to oranges” comparison because Quality Factor or Q is derived from a simple mathematical calculation; resonant or center frequency divided by bandwidth. Q is Q is Q. So, you should set all parameters, including Q, in both products to the _same_ values and then do your comparisons. They will _not_ match, because the two products are built differently.

I think that sometimes you just have to write something when you live near Warsaw

Maat sounds very thumpy

They are terrible! I would never Recommend too anyone!! Money hungry and bad experience where I purchased their product.

what's this? Orange EQ is a Phase linear EQ with absolutely no sound and a brilliant very helpful user interface. If you have this or the Red EQ you will never need another EQ. Orange is way better and the whole track doesn't show its capabilities.