Black Sheep Boogaloo: A Critique & Analysis Of The Wire Season 5

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Macabre Storytelling

Macabre Storytelling

Күн бұрын

[SPOILERS FOR THE ENTIRE SERIES]
Since its conclusion in 2008, HBO’s The Wire has cemented itself an eternal place in television history, celebrated by many as the medium’s greatest and most groundbreaking achievement.
But rather than shovel even more praise onto the watershed series, this video will take a critical look at the fifth and final season of the show, considered by many if not the majority of fans as the black sheep of the series.
In this video, I will break down Season 5 in its entirety, analyzing why the show’s concluding chapter in many respects just feels off. For those of you who consider Season 5 to be the show's weakest yet struggle to articulate exactly why, I hope this essay will help put your feelings into words.
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[00:00] - Intro/Shout-outs
[04:10] - Setting The Stage
[13:11] - City Hall
[16:13] - The Street
[24:32] - The Newsroom
[35:00] - The Police Station
[43:16] - Realism
[49:14] - The Death Of A King
[56:57] - Conclusion
[58:56] - Outro/Patrons
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@franciscoygnacio9331
@franciscoygnacio9331 2 жыл бұрын
Ha, yes a 1 hour long essay on a television show i have never seen.
@EddyTheMartian
@EddyTheMartian 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely watch it, it’s probably the greatest show of all time
@98kartik
@98kartik 2 жыл бұрын
watch it cisco!
@prolifik5
@prolifik5 2 жыл бұрын
Inconceivable!
@mitchellpicariello8011
@mitchellpicariello8011 2 жыл бұрын
You’re in for the greatest ride of your life
@deadchanneldontwatch7347
@deadchanneldontwatch7347 2 жыл бұрын
@@EddyTheMartian not really feeling season 1 tbh it has good scenes but thats it guess thats what happens to most shows during its first season right? breaking bad , the sopranos maybe better call saul
@cinefreak2307
@cinefreak2307 2 жыл бұрын
One of the funniest moments of the entire series belongs to season 5: It's when McNulty goes to Quantico to do a profile on his fake serial killer , and the FBI actualy profiles him. I always laugh hard when I watch that.
@kidd32888
@kidd32888 2 жыл бұрын
It was telegraphed as soon as they mentioned they have to go for profiling
@jonerikson5925
@jonerikson5925 2 жыл бұрын
You just see McNulty shift in his chair a little bit like " play it cool"
@theystoleitfromus
@theystoleitfromus 2 жыл бұрын
Funny mixed messages about that place, though - one of their highest-profile collars was simply handed to them and yet their psych eval is more accurate than even they realise.
@tallen996
@tallen996 2 жыл бұрын
He describe a Scorpio fr 😂
@bastardjokemen8518
@bastardjokemen8518 2 жыл бұрын
“They’re in the ballpark.”
@simonesalvatore9345
@simonesalvatore9345 2 жыл бұрын
53:34 - Given Michael K. Williams’ untimely passing, Omar’s death now seems bitterly ironic; a king brought down at the most random, inexplicable time possible. RIP to a legend :( 👑
@yusefinc1096
@yusefinc1096 2 жыл бұрын
RIP 🙏🏿 just found out now. Wow. He was a great man and actor.
@Bwoodlyy
@Bwoodlyy 2 жыл бұрын
Fuck. What a king.
@BoleDaPole
@BoleDaPole 5 ай бұрын
Last year we lost Lance Riddick as well, dude was a unit and died at just 60 years old. 🙏
@fuzzydunlop7928
@fuzzydunlop7928 2 жыл бұрын
Woah, I had no idea season 5 was maligned by fans of the show. As someone who studied journalism at the time, watching season 5’s depiction of a newsroom setting, and how stories can spin out of control of scope and content, seemed very organic and true-to-life for me. Season 5 is a contender for my favorite. I’m just now learning it has a reputation.
@bucksdiaryfan
@bucksdiaryfan 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't you find the whole "fake serial killer" idea a stretch? I realize you could argue it was something Jimmy MIGHT do, but no way was it compatible with Lester's established character (I just finished a full rewatch)
@gps9715
@gps9715 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. Season 5 was my favorite, albeit by a slim margin. And the newsroom with Gus was absolutely some of the best parts imo. So yeah, I agree more with you than the majority of fans apparently.
@bucksdiaryfan
@bucksdiaryfan 2 жыл бұрын
@@drog.ndtrax3023 that's not unusual lol
@mariosargiropoulos1715
@mariosargiropoulos1715 2 жыл бұрын
@@drog.ndtrax3023 If you’re talking about the smiley face murder theory, that’s not even close to the same thing, dude. The Smiley Face theory was a theory put forth by a couple retired cops in an attempt to cash in on unsolved murders. They theorized bodies found in a river were actually killed by a cult. Even though there was zero evidence for this. It was just Satanic Panic bullshit. That’s very different than an officer manipulating dead bodies in order to fabricate a serial killer. McNulty was breaking the law with his actions. These retired cops were just trying to get famous with a crazy theory. They weren’t breaking any laws. Add that Lester went for this bullshit, which was so out of character, and it was indeed ridiculous.
@AdaptiveApeHybrid
@AdaptiveApeHybrid Жыл бұрын
It was the serial killer shit and the rushed crime elements that kinda ruin it for me
@ndogg20
@ndogg20 2 жыл бұрын
Season 5 was brilliant and haunting. As one by one all the people we've come to know are gone or replaced. All they had worked for disappears as if they never existed in the first place. Then whole nightmare begins again.
@jrivers5164
@jrivers5164 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I still really enjoy season five of The Wire, despite being not as good as other seasons (although still being as you said pretty good). The fact that it actually had a satisfying conclusion compared to other shows (looking at you GOT) is saying something, and makes it stand tall above the rest.
@Carpet_Carp
@Carpet_Carp 2 жыл бұрын
If anything, it is definitely the funniest season. The dynamic between Bunk and Jimmy is just priceless. Also, Dominic West shows some real comedic skills with McNulty's borderline crazy facial expressions during most of it. But I also think it would have been much better with 3 more episodes. Overall, the main plot didn't have enough time to breathe. The "serial killer" was built up too fast and we didn't get a chance to dive deeper in the personalities of the journalists.
@MelGibsonFan
@MelGibsonFan 2 жыл бұрын
What I’ve grown to appreciate is the way the show (especially the 5th season) handled moral ambiguity. It showed how systems can be structured in ways that incentivize dishonesty, even if it’s just to secure financial stability for a newspaper or police department.
@ck891
@ck891 2 жыл бұрын
I’d agree with that. Another list of great endings -- The Wire Mad Men Six Feet Under BoJack Horseman Sopranos Avatar Oz
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think they just decided to be a bit self indulgent and have fun with it because it was the last one and they were feeling nostalgic and hell, why not
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal 2 жыл бұрын
@@ck891 sopranos a was a classic ending
@jamesparkerlangston3342
@jamesparkerlangston3342 2 жыл бұрын
My first watch through, season 5 felt off. It seemed like the world went off the rails. But the second, third, etc times I’ve gone back to it I’ve interpreted it as an absurdist piece. Like David Simon is saying, “our world is fucking ridiculous. We put these systems in place and they’ve gone so far beyond our control we can barely recognize the world we’ve all blindly built and no matter how hard we each individually struggle we’re never going to be free of the Game.”
@curranfrank2854
@curranfrank2854 2 жыл бұрын
I don't really think it's even that absurd, most of the season's plots remained pretty well put together and smart, with some inevitable decline in quality because of David Burns leaving. It's only the serial killer plot, and even then the plot makes sense from a character perspective, it's just not up to the Wire's level of realism.
@KtotheG
@KtotheG 2 жыл бұрын
All the pieces matter.. Season 5 shows how the print media is complicit in society's disregard for the poor and forgotten.
@crazyrabbits
@crazyrabbits 2 жыл бұрын
@@KtotheG - Which, quite frankly, wasn't that interesting. Most of what we needed or wanted to know about the media in the city (budget cutbacks, snarkiness at not being let in on certain scoops) was covered enough in the previous seasons. Speaking as someone in the media, the newsroom characters in Season 5 were all caricatures of the highest order. The only thing that plotline got right was in Gus Haynes' intro scene, where he wakes up in the middle of the night panicking because he thought he missed something that was going in the early edition.
@KtotheG
@KtotheG 2 жыл бұрын
@@crazyrabbits David Simon worked at the Baltimore Sun as a journalist for several years. I guess he was just pulling things out of his buttocks, huh?
@RGC-gn2nm
@RGC-gn2nm 2 жыл бұрын
Retired police. The Wire is the best depiction of the internal workings of our inner city systems. Especially how one decision can butterfly effect years later.
@merakibox6835
@merakibox6835 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t believe Omar’s jump from the 5th floor either. Until I saw it was based on the true story of Donnie Andrews. It does serve a great juxtaposition to Omar’s death. You’ve provided great commentary!
@SofaKingShit
@SofaKingShit 18 күн бұрын
Apparently the real life fall was actually from even higher up, they had to tone it down to still keep it at least somewhat believable. The thing though is that usually a fall or jump from even two stories will result in smashed heels which can take years to properly heal, so guaranteed the guy was limping around in pain while still doing stick ups. The people who can endure the most pain and keep walking usually heal the best so. Luckily for me l had dogs in an apartment when l broke mine (also running from some violent folks) so l simply had to walk but at the start of the process but l sometimes had to cry a little from the intensity of the discomfort. Still get stiff heels on cold days.
@baidawibai
@baidawibai 2 жыл бұрын
I think you missed something integral about Scott's character. The idea of the new generation having "no code" and having no respect is a sentiment that permeated the streets and the police department and also the newsroom. Hence Scott's disdain for the older generation of journalists and his blind ambition... which also ties into the whole part of the story of the newsroom downsizing because of digital. Great video though! Well executed
@giljawetz5279
@giljawetz5279 2 жыл бұрын
Great take. I mostly feel that the issue was that it was too rushed. 3 more hours and it could have been fleshed put properly. Love the take on Omar’s demise, which I think was brilliant. One other detail was how his death got passed over for coverage by the newspaper. Gus knew Joe but Omar’s legend was 100% on the street.
@paulkenny105
@paulkenny105 2 жыл бұрын
WRT the death of Omar there is a wonderful moment in the newspaper room where Gus has to decide whether to put a story in about a fire or a homicide (Omar) and goes with the fire Showing the disconnect between the news people and the street where Omar’s death is a huge event
@ejnarsorensen2920
@ejnarsorensen2920 2 жыл бұрын
The writing and execution of season 5 is still better than nearly every show on tv the past couple of years (I can only think of Better Call Saul). When I've gone back to rewatch the show, I've still seen it the whole way through and enjoyed it. I think the ending is fairly appropriate. Really pessimistic and saying nothing ever really changes.
@EddyTheMartian
@EddyTheMartian 2 жыл бұрын
Next best show after Better Call Saul right now is probably Succession, in particular Season 2.
@afrobuddy4801
@afrobuddy4801 2 жыл бұрын
You are not watching a lot of shows then. You are telling me season 5 of the wire is better than Dark?
@ejnarsorensen2920
@ejnarsorensen2920 2 жыл бұрын
Yes Dark, that is really good too. I think I was hiatus from that because I couldn't get the subtitles to work for some reason. The problem I found with Succession is that every character is an awful person, and yet I just get the feeling they're all going to be ok. Also, they're too like the real life Murdochs for comfort.
@afrobuddy4801
@afrobuddy4801 2 жыл бұрын
@@Burbankk lol season 1 is almost as good as season 2. And season 2 has characters from season 1
@NeverSaySandwich1
@NeverSaySandwich1 2 жыл бұрын
What about the leftovers?
@christianfreed
@christianfreed 2 жыл бұрын
"...be just a little slow, a little late. How you ain't never gonna be slow? Ain't never gonna be late?" -Avon I'm surprised this wasn't brought up as a theme for when Omar is shot by Kenard. After surviving through shootouts, battles with all the big bads, as well as spiderman shit. Omar let his guard down for just a moment. He was a little slow. Once. A little late once. "You can't plan for this shit man. Thats life"
@ReallyGoodandKind
@ReallyGoodandKind 2 жыл бұрын
Omar Comin’!!! RIP To the king A mans gots to have a code.
@manaulhoque6507
@manaulhoque6507 2 жыл бұрын
R.I.P Michael K Williams
@jeffcherubin9073
@jeffcherubin9073 2 жыл бұрын
First and foremost, rest in peace to Michael K. Williams who played Omar Little. Like I watched this hours before the news of his death came public. At least this video did him some justice,
@petewerehere
@petewerehere 2 жыл бұрын
Omar stood out as a larger than life figure in a show that consistently reminds us just how small a life is, or even the totality of the lives of an entire cast of characters are, when set against the monumental institutions out there in the world. Despite that, he was someone who could always cut them down to size. He was optimistic and hopeful in that way for the audience. But by the time of his death, he was tired. No matter how exceptional (seemingly supernatural) a person may be, they can't keep the fight up forever. The system chews them up and spits them out, eventually. I don't think Omar's guard was down just for that moment; it was down because he couldn't hold it up any longer. He had given everything he had to live his life by his principles, until there was nothing left in him. The freshest iteration of the system could finally rid itself of him in its efforts to move on and keep up the status quo. But, it can't wipe his legend from the streets. His name lingers on. A fitting end for the King.
@olzhas1one755
@olzhas1one755 2 жыл бұрын
You come at The King, you best not miss.
@brigitterichardson5630
@brigitterichardson5630 Жыл бұрын
Well said.
@8Tarkus8
@8Tarkus8 5 ай бұрын
I believe the main reason that caused his demise in that particular instance is that he always seemed to underestimate kids. He lowered the guard in that moment, despite seeing his killer coming in the store, and got punished by it
@palico004
@palico004 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought the 'he'll just keep coming back' line meant that the Greeks were impressed with Marlo's hustle and wanted someone hungry like him in place of Joe.
@whitleypedia
@whitleypedia 2 жыл бұрын
depicting journalists as desperate dirtbags is the most honest thing about the most honest show on TV
@tommylakindasorta3068
@tommylakindasorta3068 2 жыл бұрын
Most journalists work long hours for low pay to keep their communities informed. Please don't give in to cynical talking points about the press.
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal 2 жыл бұрын
And politicians
@Badmanpuntbaxter
@Badmanpuntbaxter 2 жыл бұрын
@@tommylakindasorta3068 90% of this God damn country works long hours for low pay and they manage to not manipulate the truth to serve corporations or whoever the highest bidder happens to be. Please save your sob stories.
@tommylakindasorta3068
@tommylakindasorta3068 2 жыл бұрын
@@Badmanpuntbaxter Again, you're just regurgitating right-wing talking points. I've been a reporter for over 20 years and nowhere I've ever worked has done any of the things you're claiming.
@Cheese23145
@Cheese23145 Жыл бұрын
@@tommylakindasorta3068 genius orange, didn’t claim anything what are you talking about?
@siphillis
@siphillis 2 жыл бұрын
I do go back and forth over whether "The Sopranos" or "The Wire" is the king of television writing, as they aren't remotely easy to compare. One point heavily in "Sopranos'" favor is that it ends on one of its strongest seasons, and with a particularly superb stretch of episodes. "The Wire" twists its ankle in the last 20 yards and limps across the finish line pretending it meant to do that.
@00_00.1
@00_00.1 2 жыл бұрын
I agree the wire and sopranos are very different shows, I've always considered the wire to be 100% realism and I believe the creators described it as a tragedy. Whereas the sopranos is a dark comedy with a psychology overtone and "a show about america"
@dernthehermit3541
@dernthehermit3541 2 жыл бұрын
I found it easy to ignore the stretch of McNulty's wild ridiculous plan because it did something amazing for his character: It made him one of the bosses, the bosses that he's complained about for years and years. It necessitated a contrivance to put him in that position, but when he got his hands on some authority, some power, the ability to commit resources and make or break cases on a whim, he essentially became a boss... and he couldn't hack it. That's why the plot is ostensibly resolved so quickly at the end... because it wasn't about the fake serial killer, it was about McNulty finally, finally eating a slice of humble pie.
@hanswurst5222
@hanswurst5222 2 жыл бұрын
i was moved to tears when i first saw bubbles ending. imo the character bubbles is overall one of the best performances in the show
@dwc1964
@dwc1964 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when _The Wire_ first came on. A lot of people say it took them to episode 4 before they really got into it. Not me. They had me with the cold open. While the sad story of Snot Boogie had nothing at all to do with the rest of the show save to introduce us to McNulty, it summed the whole thing up. "This is America, man." cue the Blind Boys of Alabama's version of "Way Down in the Hole" and I am _all in._ Season 5 was a letdown to me, and this video addresses the reasons why in ascending order perfectly: The rise and fall of Marlo was seriously undercooked, as well explained in the video, to which I have nothing to add. With the newsroom story, when I first watched it, it felt like David Simon was way too close to the story he was telling, with an obvious author-insert and worst of all, an actual _bad guy_ who lacked only a moustache to twirl. The contrast between that bit of characterization and the way he drew every other character (even Rawls!) throughout the rest of the series was jarring. And you totally hit the nail on the head with the fake serial killer plot - not only was it outlandish in a way that Hamsterdam didn't hit, but what really broke me was when _Lester Freamon_ went all-in on it. Bunk's reaction is highlighted here, but my sentiments were best expressed by Kima after the whole thing came crashing down. Her deep, baffled disappointment mirrored my own. Omar's arc through the season was a straight-up tragedy. It started with his happy ending, retired in Florida. The thing that grabbed me most there was hearing the neighborhood kids shouting out "Omar coming!" but instead of running away in fear as was always the case in Baltimore, they're running _toward_ him with joy. I wanted nothing more for Omar than to let him live out the rest of his days just like that. Then, just when he thought he was out, they pull him back in. And in the end, it's one of those kids who drops him, out of nowhere. After that, and all the other tragedy in the series, I _needed_ Bubbles's redemption arc. I'd only recently at the time discovered Steve Earle's music (his song "Jerusalem" on the album of the same name is close to my heart) and while I liked his Obi-wan here well enough it was sadly as undercooked as the rest of the season. But that ending was not just great, it was _necessary._ Season 5 of _The Wire_ is nowhere near as big a letdown to me as Seasons 7-8 of _Game of Thrones_ or _Battlestar Galactica_ basically after they left New Caprica. I hadn't considered the possibility that its flaws are actually a meta-commentary on itself and the inherent limitations of its medium. (The _Dexter_ callout was cringingly too on-the-nose for me, though I did lol.) I think that's perhaps a too-charitable take. But it's still _The Wire_ and, flawed as it is, all the pieces matter.
@bucksdiaryfan
@bucksdiaryfan 2 жыл бұрын
I needed like 5 restarts because I always have a hard time getting into a new show and distinguishing the characters and The Wire made all that even harder... glad I did tho
@Tadaia
@Tadaia 2 жыл бұрын
Great post!
@rainbowthegod
@rainbowthegod Жыл бұрын
I dont think omar went to florida.. in a scene with his gay portorican boyfriend, omar was talking to all the little kids in spanish pretty sure he was in a island in pr or dr somewhere with his spanish lover. As for marlo I felt like it ended perfectly. His downfall was fast and rushed but his last scene was perfect. He ina suit cant comprehend what's going on in the room similar to stringer bell with clay davis. So he walks out of the building to the street which he knows best and what does he hear? Two street dudes talking about the legend of a gay stick up man and biggest rival to marlo other than barksdale..... omar little.. he approaches ask if they kno who he is which ofcourse they dont... this is when marlo realizes he had the game by the balls but his name would never be as famous as Omar's which he didnt like. Almost gets killed all to be recognized..... meanwhile he shouldnof been in the meeting being recognized by the people with money but that wasnt his lane. Then you see his adrenaline rush as he realizes he was cut in the process before they tried to shoot him. Lmao sometimes we value the opinion of the wrong people. He had the way out but all he knew was being involved in bulshit. Similar to what common folk go through all the time.. wanting to do better but only knowing what they know... bad.
@PDog69
@PDog69 2 жыл бұрын
Man, you had me searching the channel for the ""critique"" of other seasons of The Wire before clicking this one 😁 yes, I was going to watch them all 🥊🕹🎮
@33sugee
@33sugee 2 жыл бұрын
Gus Haynes is such a good character. True to the game to his own fault.
@Bwoodlyy
@Bwoodlyy 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously man thank you for this. Literally just finished my first watch of The Wire this week and I’ve been trying to figure out why I thought the show was an absolute masterpiece even though it fizzles out in it’s final season. You said everything that needed to be said about the final season. When the 5th season is on point it is truly on point but I loved how you ended it on a bittersweet note, like the show. They couldn’t ever have a completely fulfilling ending because of the absolutely biblical content they produced before and they definitely knew that going in. They didn’t do wrong by any character and at worst I was just bored by the newsroom stuff. The show is still a masterpiece and season 4 is probably the best season of tv ever produced. Again, thank you for this.
@frederikklarname149
@frederikklarname149 2 жыл бұрын
I have watched the whole series several times. I have never really engaged in or just read through the discourse about the series very much. I didn't know the last season was looked at in this way. It's a great season.
@Al-ji4gd
@Al-ji4gd 10 ай бұрын
No, it's not.
@Adamas7
@Adamas7 Жыл бұрын
There was absolutely no way the criminals of Baltimore ever stood a chance against the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
@meu02136
@meu02136 2 жыл бұрын
Ironic that there’s a chapter “the death of a king”, video published just a few days ago. Rip Michael.
@nickm8874
@nickm8874 2 жыл бұрын
Apt, isn’t it? The opposite of ironic
@mutt8553
@mutt8553 2 жыл бұрын
Just recently rewatched season 5. This timing couldn’t be better
@BubblegumCrash332
@BubblegumCrash332 2 жыл бұрын
That's some Spider Man shit right there
@Jamaleum
@Jamaleum 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope you read this: I love when a video makes me mad that this is not a straight dialogue with my chance to oppose a well-structured argument I disagree with. It's a minor thing I want to disagree with now concerning the connection of the different plot elements in S5, cause I feel like that was masterfully done here. Mainly I want to say that Dukies and Michaels fates were heavily connected to the rest of the plot. If McNulty and Freemon didn't have to lie about their source on the papers, Marlo and his crew would have never suspected Mike. He wouldn't have to kill Snoop and both wouldn't end up in the paths they ended up in. It even connects to Bunk builiding up his murder case since he took Mike off the street which raised suspicion towards him.
@benjamins2458
@benjamins2458 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think a homicide detective would necessarily have known the thing about being unable to determine whether a particular injury was post-mortem. This is a very particular piece of information, which you wouldn't come into contact with very often. I'd seen many forensic autopsies before watching the show, and didn't know this.
@ThirteenAmp
@ThirteenAmp 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the way that Jimmy learns that was clever, the other cop arguing that the medics had to pull him out from being wedged and it's not a murder, so we all get the information and it feels natural
@prajwaljayaraj5887
@prajwaljayaraj5887 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I must say I had a different interpretation of the story arcs. I believed that Scott's story arc was a metaphor for where the media industry was heading and what print journalism has to do to stay afloat. Essentially talking about the compromise that news publications had to make to stay afloat. They wanted something sensational that would sell well rather than something educational that would inform people. And Templeton represents the same mindset that Burell, Carcetii, and other poltically minded characters reprsented, he cared about the prestige that comes with his career, not the quality of it. I've seen bitches like Scott all across school. As for Marlo I guess, Prop Joe saw the use in Marlo and wanted to groom him to be his partner and eventually his pawn, but Joe represents a different generation of the game, one that valued fraternity, honesty and integrity, when a favour was done, you pay it back, there are rules to be followed he assumed Marlo had also internalized these values, but as Colvin and Weebey pointed out, the game's changed . Whereas Marlo represented the ruthless competitive nature of capitalist ambition, he's the new king on the block, and he wanted the crown all to himself, whatever that cost might be. As for the Greeks, I don't think they were scared I think they just didn't care as to what would happend to Joe and not warning Joe is in line with their code of not getting involved with the streets. And when Joe was gone, they shrugged and sold to Marlo since he had the cash. But yeah, the Greek's season 5 plotline felt odd.
@caseyhart4999
@caseyhart4999 2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling it’s possible Scott Templeton May have been based however loosely on someone David Simon had bad experiences with in the news room of the Baltimore Sun. Who knows lol but I think a message that can be gleaned from it is that not everyone is as morally grey as a character like mcnulty or carcetti but rather that in the real world you may sometimes find people who are genuinely a piece of shit like Scott templeton
@caseyhart4999
@caseyhart4999 2 жыл бұрын
I left the original comment about halfway through the video and now see he is addressing the issue lol
@Dan1elAndrade
@Dan1elAndrade 2 жыл бұрын
And most importantly people who genuinely are pieces of shit, but do not give "asshole vibes". Scott is an asshole through and through, however the first time you see him the only thing you can think of is that he's a goodie two shoes.
@bucksdiaryfan
@bucksdiaryfan 2 жыл бұрын
It was a guy named Jim Haner who worked for the Sun
@cyreekcyreek2329
@cyreekcyreek2329 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I also never felt there was a lack of motive for what Scott did. Money and fame go a long way.
@emiliodelbozo3155
@emiliodelbozo3155 Жыл бұрын
Problem is that people wanted every single character to be so complex to be "realistic". Some people are just simple!
@TheStarryNightLife
@TheStarryNightLife 2 жыл бұрын
I paused at minute 4 when you say fans disappointed with s5 might have a hard time saying why. Since I am one of those fans, here's my quick notes before I watch your analysis: The characters get fantastical. Omar always toed this line and the result was refreshing levity, but s5 stretches his limits. McNulty turns into Dexter, surrounded incompetent police. Snoop and her sidekick are bad ass but cartoonish. And Marlo's psychopathy makes his character seem less rich and relatable than every other. As for the story, the institution of journalism is romanced like no other institution. This bygone golden era sentimentality seemed shockingly naive compared to the grounded exploration of police, crime, unions, politicians, and schools.
@comeatmebro8120
@comeatmebro8120 2 жыл бұрын
I would mostly agree with you but to me Marlo has always been at the very least sociopathic. I didn't see a change in his personality in the final season that felt different compared to the previous seasons
@SethHMG
@SethHMG 2 жыл бұрын
I dig this. I’ll offer my $0.02 in the same vein: 1. This season followed two of the best seasons of television EVER. They were high water marks. 2. Print media was in steep decline in the 08, and maybe that as the focus lacked some of the impact (especially w younger viewers) than the focus of previous seasons. 3. Sticking a landing is always difficult. 4. There were a lot of small “battles” in season 5 vs earlier seasons having a few big “battles”. Didn’t have as big of a “payoff”. That’s off top of my head. Haven’t seen season 5 in probably 5+ years. Parts of 4-5 blend together.
@ThirteenAmp
@ThirteenAmp 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't think the actor that played Marlo could act very well and that's why his character doesn't seem to have the depth of others, the character was pretty one sided and the actor only had 1 way of acting so the whole of the character felt shallow
@TheStarryNightLife
@TheStarryNightLife 2 жыл бұрын
@@comeatmebro8120 you're right say this. I'm rewatching the show after years. Marlo is introduced at the beginning of season 3. Lol, I thought he came into the show way later
@comeatmebro8120
@comeatmebro8120 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThirteenAmp Really? Go back and watch the "my name is my name" scene again. I think Marlo's role was acted to perfection. He was supposed to be cold, heartless, and emotionless
@TheFrogEnjoyer
@TheFrogEnjoyer 2 жыл бұрын
I've been looking forward to this
@dominictemple
@dominictemple 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, I've been looking for an essay on the Wire for a while since my most recent rewatch and this really scratched that itch, excellent work.
@defenstrator4660
@defenstrator4660 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't mind them getting away with the crime. It seemed to fir perfectly with the theme of the show, that everyone was willing to get their hands dirty to keep themselves safe, and that the corruption of the system was such that bad things done for good ends couldn't be properly punished.
@shovedhead
@shovedhead 2 жыл бұрын
As the years go by, I find my favorite aspect of the Wire to be the scenes in summer. They really captured the Eastern Seaboard light of summer really well.
@daynebullion3231
@daynebullion3231 2 жыл бұрын
The Wire is a country mile ahead of anything else I've seen on television, but season 5 has always felt like a come down... I put it down to being a hangover from a "perfect" season 4, but your reasoning is excellent and nuanced. Well done 👏👍
@yannbancillon4321
@yannbancillon4321 2 жыл бұрын
Best tv show + best youtube channel = perfection
@RoughRunnerAce98
@RoughRunnerAce98 2 жыл бұрын
Man, the part about the show being dense really got to me... I think this show broke me. I can't really enjoy any new show or movie I watch because I feel like nothing compares to the writing in The Wire but I've never been able to articulate it other than "the writing is just better", as if I know what I'm talking about. I'm not a very big media person in general, I haven't watched many movies and don't really enjoy most that I watch with family cause they are mainly super hero or action genres... But when you said the writing in The Wire was dense and efficient, now I understand why I lose interest in most media I try to watch. This along with the social commentary The Wire makes, and the intricacy of the story threads themselves makes this show amazing. I just can't get through other shows that try to be serious in tone, I don't know how to overcome this mental block and learn to enjoy other media... It really is a problem for me as now I can only really enjoy watching old media I already watched that makes me nostalgic, or I just rewatch The Wire seasons when I get fed up with new things... I think I need help lol...
@jeffcherubin9073
@jeffcherubin9073 2 жыл бұрын
This is what another great video by Mac and another reminder of how these long video essays has shaped me personally in my own writing. My favorite part of the video was how you pointed out the flaws in Marlo's storyline. I had to rewind a few times at this part because it was so influential and reminded me how to carefully perfect a storyline without rearing its ugly head.
@TheRealBTRC
@TheRealBTRC 27 күн бұрын
Great work man. Really enjoyed this
@elaineandjohn9599
@elaineandjohn9599 Жыл бұрын
Dang that’s some excellent analysis. Best take we’ve heard to put the season in context. You have shown how and why all the pieces matter.
@chestbuster1987
@chestbuster1987 2 жыл бұрын
A very fair and well thought-out analysis. Top notch work!
@tarkus9820
@tarkus9820 2 жыл бұрын
What a great video! Love to see you do justice to the wire with such a well written analysis. I'm not fully sold on the whole meta commentary about television part yet, but I'll definitely think about it on my next rewatch. So many points and observations I would've never come up with on my own, but which ring completely true when you bring them up! Just great work all around a well earned sub! :D
@SaltyChip
@SaltyChip 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like the writers were watching Dexter when writing Jimmy’s main storyline.
@jonerikson5925
@jonerikson5925 2 жыл бұрын
Lester, risking his freedom without a second thought, and leaving the fine Shardene at home, the real thing he should've been worried about.
@liquidgeorge
@liquidgeorge 2 жыл бұрын
06:40 - You are so right on this point. The Wire is the only show I have seen where I would finish a season and think "I wish this had twice as many episodes." instead of the usual "They could have cut this season by 5 episodes."
@brankoburcksen
@brankoburcksen 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for doing an excellent analysis of one of my all time favorite shows! Since you really dug into the density and build up from the writing, it made me think you should do an analysis of Dark on Netflix. That show is so meticulous in its development it is downright jaw dropping, and a prime example of the freedom for storytelling that streaming allows. Not to mention, the creators have a new series, 1899, just around the corner. I'm very excited to see what they can pull off with their sophomore outing with even more freedom and a grander narrative.
@neloangelo702
@neloangelo702 2 жыл бұрын
Please do this Mac, Dark is amazing
@seanmccarthy1974
@seanmccarthy1974 2 жыл бұрын
Thomas Carcetti was a fictional portrayal of the real life trajectory of former Baltimore mayor/Maryland governor Martin O’Malley. Any analysis of Carcetti should start there.
@manzell
@manzell 2 жыл бұрын
I think Season 5's problem is that fantasticism of the Fake Serial Killer thread. One of the things that made The Wire so great was that what was happening was so banal, so common, things we all saw everyday but didn't find notable. It was "regular life". A Fake Killer Hoax was weird, bombastic, from-tv-land.
@legzdiamond2356
@legzdiamond2356 2 жыл бұрын
Season five was like a kind of retrospective documentary of the last four - far superior - seasons.
@ewetwentythree
@ewetwentythree 5 ай бұрын
Season 5 of this show is probably the most invested I've ever been in a piece of media. Every day I was wondering what would happen next, how far will McNultys lies go? How will Omars story end? What is the shows finale building to? On an emotional level, this show poisoned my water supply, burned my crops, and delivered a plague onto my house. An absolute masterpiece, Season 5 is powerful enough that I only like it less because I was invested enough in the characters to feel bad for how they ended up, it's a show almost too good for me to handle. I love it, hate it, and everything in-between. 10/10 video and show, this was a nice watch after finishing the series a few months back.
@macalloway1
@macalloway1 2 жыл бұрын
The analysis of the scott Templeton plot line is spot on. Without knowing anything about the instances false reporting being utilized by Baltimore area news papers you could see immediately that scott was a representation of a particular person that someone in the shows production wanted to make a statement about. His primary purpose was not to expose that type of person but to expose and bash that specific person. David Simon's strength as a writer lies in his ability to create characters that are amalgams of certain types of real people while making them feel authentic despite having traits taken from multiple people's personality's. The drawback of this being that when he does write a one to one character base solely on a single person it sticks out because in comparison they don't seem very well rounded. (And by the way some people aren't very well rounded)It also undermines Simon's assertion that he/"they" killed Stringer to serve the plot over the individual characters. Scott Templeton is clearly a case of the plot serving the character. I'm fine with making a statement about the rewarding of bad actors in society 's various systems base on a personal experience. Just don't tell me that his personal issues with one particular situation didn't take priority over the themes previously express in the show.
@Melissa-tw2gp
@Melissa-tw2gp 2 жыл бұрын
You really helped me see the season in a new light, thank you! Thoroughly enjoyed it. Would love to hear your thoughts on my personal fav, Deadwood, some day.
@phatnana2379
@phatnana2379 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, what sets The Wire apart from other shows in terms of narrative complexity, characters, and scope is the writing... Besides the writing being great in general, more specifically, I mean the the type of writers the show had. The Wire's writers didn't only have real-life experience as Baltimore law enforcement, politicians, or journalists, most of the writers were authors rather than being writers of film and television. I feel like that is what made the show so good at setup/payoff and telling a complex and cohesive story over a longer period of time! In turn, it helps at fleshing out characters and world building, making the scope of the story seem HUGE
@ajanisgreat
@ajanisgreat 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Thank you for giving me so many things to watch and listen to while I'm hiding in the bathroom from my kids. You da man🖖🏿
@serpentingestor3
@serpentingestor3 2 жыл бұрын
Just finished Season 5 today and had a blast but it did feel rushed. Thank you for putting into words what so many of us felt. Absolute banger of an analysis.
@asap.6283
@asap.6283 2 жыл бұрын
You finally did your Wire analysis. An hour worth viewing
@Matthias333
@Matthias333 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video on an amazing show. Nice work!
@arthurfortes8398
@arthurfortes8398 2 жыл бұрын
The video about the "The Wire" I was warned by Macabre Storytelling itself finally came. lol
@zacharyb2723
@zacharyb2723 2 жыл бұрын
Making great art season after season after season is just really dang hard. Even Major League hitters strike out, and Season five isn't a strike out, its just widely viewed as worse than the absolute greatest TV ever. What is a season, anyway? Why do we even need to view the art thru the writers' eyes?
@bascal133
@bascal133 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Omar has the type of legendary status that he could be his own Candyman.
@fyvp007
@fyvp007 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis really on point …and really nailed it on why the newsroom was so hard to watch
@reddavis4808
@reddavis4808 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I really enjoyed watching.
@dreambigparis
@dreambigparis 9 ай бұрын
Season 5 is one of the best seasons ever and one of the best conclusion seasons in TV show history
@jordyundieground3270
@jordyundieground3270 2 жыл бұрын
Super good video mac
@ashbromace235
@ashbromace235 Жыл бұрын
Tell me if I’m wrong but, Marlo never mentioned talking to the Greeks with Joe. Marlo was getting connected with Joe because he needed to hide his money. Joe thought he still had his secret supplier so he didn’t suspect Marlo to take over.
@ThirteenAmp
@ThirteenAmp 2 жыл бұрын
I put the Wire above the Sopranos personally but both shows are so good that it's really only about personal opinion instead of objective fact I liked Boardwalk Empire better as a mob show than the Sopranos but the Sopranos writing was better than Boardwalk But my personal top 2 are the wire and Deadwood, I have never seen a character as good as Al Swearagin before or since
@kidd32888
@kidd32888 2 жыл бұрын
Love Sopranos but The Wire is just a little bit better
@drewfleming5584
@drewfleming5584 2 жыл бұрын
I've always looked at it this way; The Wire is the greatest accomplishment, The Sopranos the greatest show.
@brennanc4321
@brennanc4321 Ай бұрын
I think the Sopranos held up better
@danieljohnson2005
@danieljohnson2005 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s okay to watch this video if you’ve never seen the show. Spoilers are never good, but there’s so much going on in the show that you’ll probably forget everything by the time you actually get to season 5.
@EddyTheMartian
@EddyTheMartian 2 жыл бұрын
I still wouldn’t watch it but that’s kinda true lmao. I got some stuff spoiled, though more minor things and I forgot many of them.
@afrobuddy4801
@afrobuddy4801 2 жыл бұрын
He mentions the deaths and fates of major characters so probably not a good idea to watch the video without watching the show
@sthomasond
@sthomasond Жыл бұрын
Still at the beginning of the video, but thank you for shouting out season 2. My personal favorite, and I was immediately in love it on first watch. The emotional stuff with frank and his family members, specifically Ziggy. The mystique of the greeks, with the humorous little quips between Spiros and The Greek himself ("And I'm not even Greek!"). To subtly tying them all together with Proposition joe and his connection. Genius.
@enthusiast_9485
@enthusiast_9485 2 жыл бұрын
Great video !
@Rusvul
@Rusvul 5 ай бұрын
There is one part in Omar's story that the video doesn't mention, which I think is crucial to the character and why he ended up being killed off in a relatively "mundane" fashion. That key thing is that Omar killed Savino after giving Bunk his word of "no bodies on me". A man must have a code, and Omar went against his code by breaking his promise that was given in earnest to Bunk in exchange for Bunk's help getting him out of prison. It can be argued that Omar's plot armor - which often extended outside the stricter realism that the rest of the show was made to conform to - was balanced out by his dogged adherence to his code. Without it - as Brother Mouzone put it when addressing Avon, "What got you here is your word and your reputation. Without it, you're done."
@kraeutrpolizei
@kraeutrpolizei 2 жыл бұрын
I really did not like the show bringing back McNulty. His arc was done, his story told. There was nothing to add to the character. So they had to destroy his progress and bring back the McNulty of earlier seasons. I know that McNulty was the face of the show but I felt like he was a waste of potential for an interesting character. But on the other hand, maybe McNulty was also a way of the writers telling us that this is all a fairy tale. Also: RIP Michael K. Williams
@CircuitRider
@CircuitRider 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I can’t help but hate how McNulty’s happy home life is just destroyed by his bad impulses again. Maybe it’s true to his character, but it’s just too bad. Beadie was an awesome character and she deserved better than how McNulty acted in S5. Also, we already saw Jimmy’s bad side in the first 3 seasons, we got plenty of McNulty and didn’t need him to be front and center again.. so it did feel a little bit unnecessary and redundant.
@sifatshams1113
@sifatshams1113 2 жыл бұрын
Just heard the news. R.I.P. Michael K. Williams
@Ahmedkhan8802
@Ahmedkhan8802 11 ай бұрын
I (and anyone who knows me) regard myself as the nation's number one unabashed, hopelessly addicted Wirefreak. With that as a backdrop I have to give you the highest praise for this critique. As Stringer and McNulty would say, "Nicely done." My personal favorite episode is Season Two. Season Five would be my least, but over time my assessment of S5 improved, and I regard all the seasons as superb. Again thank you for this critique - I'm glad I came across it.
@rashadjadlot3711
@rashadjadlot3711 2 жыл бұрын
great editing
@ziggystardust457
@ziggystardust457 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing Williams justice. Omar forever. 💙
@klassvice9752
@klassvice9752 Жыл бұрын
Excellent summary!
@MacabreStorytelling
@MacabreStorytelling Жыл бұрын
🙏
@blimy01maynard30
@blimy01maynard30 Жыл бұрын
I used to kinda agree with the McNulty serial killer not being realistic to the show. But then I remember when Bunk said to McNulty that he was going to get caught. Bushy Top said "who TF is going to catch me?" I wholeheartedly believe that no one would catch him. Like he said, the city ignored a real serial killer in Marlo, Chris, and Snoop. They wouldn't allow even one detective to work on the case. So his thinking is sound. Look at the other examples. In season 1, Bunk and McNulty had re-do the Deirdre Kresson murder because the original detective wrote like a page and a half then put it in a file never to be seen again. A detective couldn't be bothered to look more thoroughly into the murder of a young woman. In season 2, we see multiple departments trying their hardest not to be assigned the murders of those girls in the boat. Rawls practically backflipped when he thought he pushed the case off to another department. Leaderships of entire departments wanted nothing to do with trying to solve the murder of 20 women. In season 4, Freamon went to Landsman and said there are who-knows how many dozens of dead people are rotting in vacant row houses and Landsman took that information and sat on it. He didn't tell anyone. There were corpuses decaying in the city and a police sergeant kept it a secret. So I agree with McNulty. Who in that police department has the time or the inclination to look into this?
@righteousone8454
@righteousone8454 4 ай бұрын
Joe's end was premature in terms of context. It's like he was moving and leaving Baltimore, but they didn't go too deep into it, then he got set up by Cheese. You can see Cheese carrying Joe's things in a suitcase. That portion was definitely missed.
@cintfaceful
@cintfaceful 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou, I enjoyed this
@mmcneil777
@mmcneil777 2 жыл бұрын
9:37 - Amazing insight about the character arcs. So many of them weren’t integrated into the storyline. If they had been able to do that it would have made for a better last season. Even if they had approached a sober Bubbles for a tip, that would have been more interesting. A lot of the storylines felt a little off and wasn’t able to put my finger on it. The lack of integration in the story like makes total sense. Clay Davis, Duckie, Bubbles, Etc....were all of in their own little worlds rather then contributing in some way to the story line. It gave some of the scenes a feel that they could have been edited out of the series. That was the difference, because in the previous seasons, every scene contributing to the overall telling of the story. Great insight...
@damianstarks3338
@damianstarks3338 Жыл бұрын
Your in depth video essay on the wire is perfection.
@MacabreStorytelling
@MacabreStorytelling Жыл бұрын
🙏
@damianstarks3338
@damianstarks3338 Жыл бұрын
@@MacabreStorytelling keep these videos coming.
@waffles6395
@waffles6395 Жыл бұрын
brilliant video
@ronyventura9301
@ronyventura9301 2 жыл бұрын
"Scott being such a stupid bitch" had me laughing so hard. Thank you
@Bepbo
@Bepbo 2 жыл бұрын
Maaaaan, I gotta come back and watch this eventually. I've been needing to watch this show since Breaking Bad was airing lol. Im terrible with keeping up with shows. I 100% know you did a banger job on this video. Great as always! 🥰 I'll be back when I either finally watch the show or say fuck it and just jump in to spoilers 😆
@dumisa7
@dumisa7 5 ай бұрын
Well done.👊🏾
@southbynortheast
@southbynortheast 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! A lot of people in the comments still have their problem with S5, which is fine. I really enjoyed your take and break-down of the season, it showed some things in a new light that I had not considered. All the pieces matter.
@brvalentine1
@brvalentine1 2 жыл бұрын
This was brilliant. I think I may agree with you 100% maybe 96.5% if I watch it again with an anal lens. Thank you for this contribution to my favorite tv series of all time.
@stuntmasta305
@stuntmasta305 2 жыл бұрын
The point of Scott's character is to display how easy and sinister someone in the media can pursue when they put their careers before the truth. It also shows how complicit the upper management was when popularity kicks in. Scott was not a stupid man, his work reflected how the streets should be narrated but if left unchecked, we will leave the truth behind in pursuit of a career. Scott was a great journalist, afaik, but he chose to write what people wanted instead of writing what people should know.
@warandconquest6522
@warandconquest6522 2 жыл бұрын
Scott was so unlikable he must’ve been based on a real person that David Simon came in contact to in his real life that he wanted to take down a few pegs. What makes season 5 so good is it shows the cyclical nature of the Game. Michael is the new Omar, Kima is new Mcnulty, the reporter who interviewed Bubbles is the new Gus, Carver is new Colvin and so on and so forth
@angleofdoom5855
@angleofdoom5855 2 жыл бұрын
*Sydnor is the new McNulty. He's the one going behind the backs of his superiors to the judge. Just like S1 McNulty. Although without the drinking and cheating problems.
@devil_pls
@devil_pls 2 жыл бұрын
I still ADORE every piece and bit of this Show. Every Episode is close to perfect to me. That being said you are right with allot of your critisism. The last season might actually not be the strongest season. In the end its funny how that doesn't really say that much in the grand scheme of things since its still leagues and leagues above practically every other Tv Show out there. Atleast in my opinion. Really enjoyed the Video man!
@Canderson_Beats
@Canderson_Beats 2 жыл бұрын
I seriously think it would have been impossible to make a series finale that would please everyone. What? would Jimmy finally have his shiny Mcnulty moment? Would Bunk get some Puss-I? Would Lester go to the Hi Hat and get some dat Pepper Steak? The perfect ending for The Wire was never going to exist.
@jasminehill6312
@jasminehill6312 Жыл бұрын
Very true!!
@stalfithrildi5366
@stalfithrildi5366 Жыл бұрын
I for one was hoping that the Jimmy McNulty Day Parade also served Protestant whiskey
@0ussama01
@0ussama01 2 жыл бұрын
And it's here !!! Let's goooo
@stephengrigg5988
@stephengrigg5988 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically the guy that plays the crooked journalist Scott, won an Oscar for writing the best picture winner spotlight. A movie about amazing reporters and reporting that exposed the catholic church.
@HamJeong
@HamJeong 2 жыл бұрын
Great work. I think it would have been good to cover at first what exactly you mean by 'lower quality' rather than just leaving it at 'something is off'--some descriptions or announcements of that at the top would really have helped me see what you're talking about a lot earlier. but such great content! First time viewer to your channel!
@krishnakantbhatt9947
@krishnakantbhatt9947 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Mac Any chance of the GoT rewrite finale in the coming months? ;)
@airshow406
@airshow406 2 жыл бұрын
"Prez looking like an absolute zaddy snack," is now a sentence that will live in my heart forever.
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