Thanks!

Couldnt agree more.

Agreed

Indeed!

That Sandy has recognized the kinds of talent his organization needs to do a good job and has found people with those talents says as much about his analytic and design skills as the tech details he presents. Since he keeps calling himself "old", I wonder who he's developing to replace him.

This is what capitalism looks like when its functioning properly.

Indeed - these guys know their stuff, work well together, and are clearly an excellent team.

Yes that was a spot on comment.

12:12 this is where his good comment starts

It is why smart design teams always have new engineers who question everything being constantly introduced. In a very large company, one way to create high value employees is to copy what doctors have done, rotate new people through departments s they can not only see the whole product picture, but experience different ways of thinking. My most valuable insight as a systems engineer came from a book on organizational management.

@@psdaengr911 When I was managing a group, I set a cap of two years on someone handling a set of responsibilities. In my industry, two years is enough to see probably 99% of the situations you will run into, (I have 4 decades in) and see how seasonality impacts each desk. I dictated the moves, because I found that it actually helped if I said, "This move is my call, it is training for you, anything goes wrong it's on me, so don't sweat it", and found that folks would actually endeavor to find and fix their own mistakes early, even though I made it clear I would take the hit. Five years after I left the company, they closed that operation, and my staff-members were able to show more rounded-out skills on their resumes. If they did not retire, they went to work for competitors or clients.

Engineers today are much better at this stuff than days gone by. Never underestimate the power of the bean counters though to dictate decisions.

Yes! This video gets my "Wholesome Award" of the week. Munro & Co seems to be a great place to work if you are serious about engineering AND business. (You just need to work a bit with Representation....;-) )

I couldn't have come up with a better summary than that!

The suspension-coupling bit flummoxed me; but other than it was clear. Hard for people with so much knowledge to explain things at a basic level.

Sometimes, it helps me to go out to my garage and look at what is on my own car. Sandy & Friends do a great job showing the parts they are discussing, but it really helps me to touch and poke at real objects to supplement what I learn here. But that aside, anything mass produced well just blows my mind.

FORD engineer don't communicate, share ideas for Commonality, and to save weight.

It is likely that the heavier cable connector was chosen on the front motor high voltage cable because it is in the crush zone. The upper connector could be crushed against the firewall, especially if centerpunching a pole. The front battery connector is more exposed to being hit by road debris or bits that come lose in a high energy crash. For an example of the second case see the latest video on the Rich Rebuilds channel.

@@Miata822 - the BEST part, is no part at all.

It shows how their corporate structure is killing them as well. Imagine not putting forth a better idea because it would stop you from getting promoted... yet at Tesla if you don't innovate you are out the door! Who do you think will be the leader in anything if that's your working environment. It's painfully obvious that we have good engineers but too much shallow management and accountant gumming up the works at the legacy companies.

@@markplott4820 Like you, I also enjoy walking. But if I'm going to drive an electric car there is no getting around having a wire between the battery and the motor. Might as well make it a safe wire.

Agree. He speaks clearly with obvious knowledge of the subject.

Enjoyable and informative.

Glad you liked it!

Something that Ford should’ve had a few times before getting to this point

This video has more useful info than some entire courses I took in engineering school lol

Obviously he's never had to work on a vehicle driven everyday that gets dirt/debris hammared against these connectors because if he did he would know that those "BOSCH" type connectors are trash and break on the technician end. Hope they stick with the bolt up design from a repair standpoint for longevity and fastener superiority! Perfect example on how engineers only design vehicles but never work on they

@@kolinreichstein3399 - Dirt and debris on those connectors? I’m guessing not anywhere near as much as on an ICE engine.

Glad you enjoyed it!

Cory is such a great explainer.

My real life experiences with Tesla, both owning, driving, interacting with the service personnel and seeing cars driving about is the same as you describe in that it flies in the face of the FUD that you see around. That's why I like these videos, you get the straight dope. And I don't just mean everything is positive about Tesla, they aren't super heroes - but they deserve some way better press than they get. I'm in Europe btw.

Now Tesla needs to get to a point where they're actually making money on every car they sell. Not just some of the models at some of specs. All of them. When they're still losing $900+ per car sold (as of July '21) they need to do hijinks like credits trading and dogecoin dabbling to turn revenue. They NEED to sell their cars for revenue so that they can continue to exist and we all benefit. The long game here.

Same here. Drove south on I-5 about 2 weeks ago and virtually all the car carriers headed south were loaded with Teslas. Must have been from Fremont. On the way back all carriers heading north were loaded with mixed models and makes and a lot of used cars.

Thanks Aussie2u!

def , lets get more Cory! He's amazing at this

So 'metric' is not standard?

Do you work for Ford? Lol.

Thanks, will do!

I enjoy watching analysis through deconstruction because it's so simple and straightforward compared to designing from "scratch", and in many ways easier compared to figuring out how to transition to a new system to produce a new design. Automotive engineers have don't need to replace drive trains of vehicles as they drive down the road, and many have no experience in manufacturing or management. Sandy isn't an automotive engineer, he's closer to a classically trained general engineer.

@@psdaengr911 Sandy started as a tool & die maker, later ar Ford WORKED, got TRAINING, got promoted up to executive home office position, headed up design of Ford en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Vulcan_engine (installed first time robots at Ford, since leaving Ford he has consulted/trained for Ford. He also worked on the 787 and nuke subs for both US & UK.

Tends to make one lean toward Tesla.

@@Chainyanker007 Wrong.

Thanks!

Thanks for watching!

Yes the co-host? can helpe Munro with metric conversion, widout Munro "louse face" He take in the information and continue, now then he know what length they speak about.

They just tell it like it is, great.

Nope

I think we need a new word for what Tesla does.

@@timboatfield Innovation

@@royphillips7644 Thats only a part of it

@@timboatfield Innovation covers all. Production, efficiency, technology and physics.

The front motor is PM.

Massive leaks coming to the Mach-e.

@@markplott4820 EV cooling systems have almost no pressure in them, just what the circulating pumps generate. Coolant in EVs never gets as hot as the water heater in your home. Look at the hoses under your washing machine for rubber hoses that are unlikely to leak for the decades long potential life of the machine.

@@markplott4820 About leaks and how they are fixed, you might want to watch this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rLyDqpZ8uMvadZc.html

@Alfred Wedmore please don't try to compare a jet engine to ICE, much less a Electric motor designed 'engine bay'. We're talking worlds apart on many aspects. And most jet engines you've seen in any helicopter were designed back in 60's or 70's.. lets not pretend they couldn't do with a bit of innovation too. Maintenance is less of a concern when you engineer the shit to not need constant maintenance in the first place. Helicopters is one thing.. they experience massive vibration stresses constantly.. way more then any car will ever see. Just toss this comparison out the window. It has no real useful merit

Correct. I was about to make the same point but you got there first.

The Mach-E is on the large side for Euro buyers. 70% of units there are city cars, superminis, and compacts (segments A-C). Mach-E seems to be small D segment. For the European market Ford needs a segment-B electric vehicle, to replace its Fiesta/Ka+/B-Max models. It makes sense to share a platform with the electric successor to the VW Polo/Audi A/SEAT Ibiza/Škoda Fabia. That still leaves Ford on its own to create a segment C electric successor to the Ford Focus, which would directly compete with VW's ID.3.

This is more informative than anything in school

In general, I would agree. But as an engineer I’m well aware you’d never get anything to market seeking perfection in design. 😆

@@TheBeingReal True, if getting to market is the main object or even the only objective.

TheBeingReal as another engineer, I would respect with the design being good, but the execution being faulty. A good design means you had foresight but a poor execution means you had unexpected issues along the way. But that is not what happened here. The problem is it’s the polar opposite. Their design is horribly lacking yet they’ve put just enough effort in that the mach e seems to run. For now. The real test is 5-10 years down the road when all these added parts and unnecessary connections start failing in spades. That’ll be the real test.

@@mhfs61 Getting to market is a must.

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks Arcadius!

More Corey!

It's likely most of them have watched by now. Hopefully they keep an open mind rather than being defensive.

Al actually crashed the film session, he didn’t even know we were filming until 10 minutes in. Al will be back for a few videos!

@@MunroLive it gave the whole thing a spontaneous unrehearsed feel which I like, as if maybe I just dropped by for a chat with you guys.

@@MunroLive Uh huh. He is the kid behind the news camera on the street saying "oh I didn't know you were recording"... ;)

I used to think that but listening to programs like this and other engineering channels I've realised that the shear mass of the old legacy automotive companies is both their hindrance to change but what will also keep them around. They're to big to lose but at the same time they have to stay relevant to make money... so they'll change... just very... very... slowly. The Mach-E to me seems almost like an forced design to prove they're still in the game, the fact it is despite its fault a good car is evidence Ford is going to stick around. The F-150 Lightning is I feel their first real blank piece of paper ground up electric vehicle and Munro's Team breakdown of that vehicle is going to be the real test of Ford's EV credentials.

@@helenlawson8426 Dear Helen, I wish I shared your optimism regarding large legacy auto but your example of the F-150 Lightening is a good one but ultimately the inefficiency of its battery pack, limited battery supply and weak charging infrastructure and no proper over the air update capabilities and no full self-driving will make this difficult. Raw material for batteries and cell production will either kill legacy auto or reduce sales by a lot. Even if they signed a deal with Tesla and licenced all the technologies including the FSD, Over the air updates, software stack/Tesla OS they would still be looking for enough batteries meet the demand.

@@simonpageau6925 That's funny because the F-150 does have. Proper self-driving mode. Called Blue Cruise and the F-150 and the Mach e have over the air updates also. Only thing I agree on is our battery tech is a little bit on the low range. I'm sure they'll get more from the Volkswagen merger

Henry Ford famously pushed suppliers to conform to his requirements. He did much to build the Detroit supplier industry.

It's what is killing them, so they better go back to vertical while they have the chance.

@@dr-k1667 vertical also kills evolution and flexibility.

@@alanmay7929 How so? Tesla is vertical, flexible, innovative and currently the last word in auto evolution.

@@MarkXHolland Tesla is also a clean-sheet company. Problem with "legacy" anything is the legacy. It's much harder to change a culture than it is to create a brand new one; starting at the top and going all the way down.

Yeah, but speaking as a engineer, it also seems very obvious that one of them has a clear lead has borrowed a tag line from apple vs "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"

Exactly

Also GREAT for reputation!? 😉👍

Thanks Jerome!

I'm surprised they didn't know that. There were many questions on that topic on this channel.

Thanks, was hoping someone would mention this. Also, the Lincoln vehicle using Rivian was canceled, not the Ford one.

Thanks David!

Ha! Best comment so far.

I get the impression that the Mach E was a special project like the GT40, used to showcase the EV capability that likely won’t be present in any of the other EVs.

MEB platform is a DECADE out of date.

The US made mach E will be made with parts from US suppliers. The European mach E will be made with parts from European suppliers.

@@royphillips7644 at the moment there is no mach-e production in Europe and i am not aware of any plans for the future..all the Mach-E sold in Europe are shipped across the Atlantic and made in Mexico at the moment) Fords biggest European Factory ( Cologne, Germany) is currently renovated to produce EVs, but as far as i know, not the Mach-E.

@@tzarcoal1018 They will produce it over there. It is their flag ship car.

Much appreciated

I promise to make a few more appearances. - Cory (this is actually Cory, I've been moderating comments since day 1)

More to come!

Excellent take, Scott!

Thanks. We will do more in this style.

Thanks Kirk!

Where's my Ford Pinto!

And engineering design issues. Driver/owner reviews don’t go into the detailed engineering issues you see on the Munro Live channel.