A Long Shaft Is Machined With A 21 tooth Spline Each End . All of the recently made shop tooling is used .
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@georgedreisch26623 ай бұрын
Y’all giving me flashbacks Max, for remembering what a different world it seems you’ve entered, working that far down the lathe bed, even on a familiar machine. Thanks for sharing. Cheers.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@dlstanf22 ай бұрын
The sign of a good craftsman is you make this look easy.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@joell4393 ай бұрын
So impressive how everything comes together and NOTHING is trivial - Thanks Max 👍👍😎👍👍
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Cheers 👍
@wallbawden55113 ай бұрын
Max yet another great job and thanks for letting us come along with you A very wise man told me that with all good jobs its all in the set up think it was you 80 percent set up 20 percent turning and you showed us it all thank you for showing the how to as well as the work weighting on part two Cheers Max
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@myradavis25993 ай бұрын
Great to see all those different shop made tools coming together! Well planned and we'll executed😊
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@noodles70112 ай бұрын
I make splines all the time with a 4th axis CNC. This set up is great. cheers
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Thanks . 👍
@captcarlos2 ай бұрын
It’s nice to know your set up is good to go before you cut into expensive stock.. Don’t get that chance often, Just there’s the stock, don’t eff it. Hahaaa, good set up there, like the mill.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Cheers . Yes , a rare occasion , i did not want to risk it ! 👍
@TedRoza3 ай бұрын
G'day Max. This is one of the best setups I have seen with all the various alignment tools, like the Spider, Deviding Head, tailstock, etc. Very Professional Presentation from start to finish . Waiting for final finish.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Cheers Ted 👍
@AaronEngineering2 ай бұрын
Amazing work Max. Loved the set up from start to finish. The oil drip feed from the tank great idea. Beats using a paint brush 👍. Cheers Aaron
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Thanks Aaron 👍
@melgross2 ай бұрын
Nice calendar, Max.
@mjm71872 ай бұрын
No shop is complete without one!
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Lol , that it is ! 👍
@tiredoldmechanic17912 ай бұрын
That was a lot of tooling to make. I hope you make more than one shaft. I know you can use it on other jobs too.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
It will get used on other machines . 👍
@pingwax.2 ай бұрын
Everything about your projects and explanations are educational. I'm always interested in how long material is handled; it was great to see how you go through your setup! The tips in this and previous videos for checking the center line of cutters has also been valuable. Cheers!
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@mikestevens80462 ай бұрын
This vid has the meat AND the potatoes Thanks for sharing
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Cheers 👍
@deanmoser59072 ай бұрын
You make it look so easy Max. I think I can do that then I have a go and stuff it up, but I know the only way to get there is to keep trying. I have learnt so much from your videos and I am getting better.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@jonsworkshop3 ай бұрын
Stretching your capacity with this one Max, splines look good. "This microwave has got some issues" lol, you're not wrong 😂😂🏴
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Cheers Jon . Good to stretch the limits ! Lol , you will see how it really got stretched in part 2 ! 👍
@terrycannon5703 ай бұрын
Great job Max. I also commend you for the picture/Calander you have on the wall. There was a time that would be considered distasteful or offensive to women. Hell, now I just want to make sure that everyone knows that I am proud to be a Man.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Lol . Yes , you never know now days ! 👍
@mjm71872 ай бұрын
Excellent setup tips, camera work and editing Max. Thanks for bringing us along. best regards, mjm
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@DonDyarprecision2 ай бұрын
That is an amazing set up!
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Cheers Don . 👍
@StuartsShed2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the detailed explanation on setting up the cutter on center - great tip on checking it. 👍
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@jdmccorful3 ай бұрын
Loving every minute of this project. Nice work, thanks.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@624Dudley3 ай бұрын
Wow, lots of planning in this job! I’m impressed at your thoroughness, what with the test run, the OD of the sacrificial piece, stuff like that 👍
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Thanks . Did not want to chance anything . 👍
@mauricesteer80232 ай бұрын
Thanks Max, stumbled accross your channel a while a go and im totally hooked. loved this series on how you methodically solved this problem. Stay safe and keep em comming if you have time. youre passing on valuable info to the less skilled, even a backyard hacker like myself.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@bruceanderson94613 ай бұрын
Yes - setup is 95% of the job! You did well.
@joell4393 ай бұрын
I would even venture to say it may have been as high as 99.2% 👍😎👍 I'm curious how one properly charges for all the setup required ? The customer is just standing there thinking he just put a spline on the end. How hard can that be????
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
It is , set up is most important ! 👍
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Set up cost is an educated guess based on how long it should take . 👍
@Warped65er3 ай бұрын
Great vid. Max. Thx.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@jrd02wilcox2 ай бұрын
Great video.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Thanks . Just fitted , with the door open ! 👍
@paulhammond74893 ай бұрын
Poetry in motion Max! Can see how all the shop made tools came together for this project. At that length, I'm assuming that this is not a 'tractor' part this time around, especially with the material certs ;)
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Lol , the rest of that saying goes '' we have seen the poetry , now let us see some motion '' ! Off some sort of farming equipment . Cheers 👍
@edsmachine933 ай бұрын
Nice work Max.👍 The length of the shaft sure makes it challenging. Thanks for sharing.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Cheers 👍
@tas32engineering2 ай бұрын
Enjoyed the Camino about sausage rolls. Also let my mind stray with exacting machining. Nice workshop tree threatening mine. Great preso.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@RicktheRecorder3 ай бұрын
Ludmiller turning in a solid performance!
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@barrycaudle99263 ай бұрын
Good to see what you made the previous tooling for. Olga is getting a real work out. I used to know a guy who headed up a company importing Russian machines back in the day.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@grahamsengineering.25322 ай бұрын
Hey Max, wild looking set up there. I see you have a Spainish Meca Rotary Table same as mine, mines a 12". I need to do the same as you and fit Indexing Plates when I have time. Love your work.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Cheers Graham . Was not sure on the make of the table , their is no tag or name . Only a number stamped in . 👍
@acmemachining2 ай бұрын
Set-up looks to be working great. Thanks for sharing Max.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Cheers 👍
@PrinceArif0073 ай бұрын
Nice good working video and helpful
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@theessexhunter13053 ай бұрын
Max the part is so long it will be time for your tea when you get to the tailstock. Nice work altb from the UK
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Cheers , Tea with toast & marmalade ! 👍
@paulcurtis27792 ай бұрын
Wow. . a lot of pre-work to ensure it's correct before cutting the actual part. . amazing ! !
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Just to be sure , hate doing stuff twice ! 👍
@TrPrecisionMachining3 ай бұрын
very good job friend Max..thanks for your time
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Thanks Mate . 👍
@hilltopmachineworks21313 ай бұрын
Looking good Max. This is a prime example of why customers don't understand the time involved in making a part. They think you should be able to whip it out in no time cause it looks so simple. Also where can I get some of those snazzy purple pants? 😀
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Cheers Tom . They used to be navy blue ! 👍
@hersch_tool2 ай бұрын
That machine makes me feel all tingly... 😍😍😍
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
It's a nice machine . Wish it was brand new ! 👍
@TheJohndeere4663 ай бұрын
I once milled splines in a long shaft maybe 12' long. I put 2 v blocks on a horizontal mill and clamped them down. Then I put the shaft in the v blocks close to where the splines were. Then I set a dividing head on the mill next to it and adjusted the table to proper height. I chucked the end of the shaft in the dividing head and then clamped the other end in the v blocks. When I cut the splines the dividing head just slid back and forth on the other mill. I would loosen the clamps holding the shaft to the v blocks every time I indexed the shaft to the next spline and it worked well. The dividing head was heavy enough to index the shaft without being clamped down.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Any port in a storm . Cheers 👍
@CaptainSwoop3 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed that episode and learned a lot. Thanks mate!
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@somebodyelse66733 ай бұрын
Holy smokes, around 11:30ish the hula dancing spacers on that cutter arbor are kinda hypnotic. I thought it might be just a lot of clearance between the spacers and the arbor, but it looks like the chamfers vary that much as well? Handsome job on the setup, everything you need to get the job done right.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Thanks . I think the chamfers & o/d are not concentric with the bores ! 👍
@user-oi8tg3dq7t2 ай бұрын
Great machining!! Nice calendar in the background.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Cheers 👍
@frankerceg43492 ай бұрын
Thank you Max!
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@Randysshop495483 ай бұрын
Very nice Max. As they say preparation equals results, surprised the see the nut on mandrel was LH thread. Cheers
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Thanks . l/h is not uncommon on arbors . Cheers 👍
@iko183 ай бұрын
אני נהנה לראות את המקצוענות שלך,והרוגע בעבודה...בהצלחה חבר...🤝👍💪🇮🇱🌹💗
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍👍👍
@daveharriman27563 ай бұрын
Amazing set ups, fascinating to watch, love it!
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@ccbproductsmulti-bendaustr32002 ай бұрын
Great work as usual Max Cheers Chris
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
No worries . Thanks 👍
@johnyoung31033 ай бұрын
I have only a 13 x 40 lathe I could not begin to handle your big ones. Great videos.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Yes you could , wait for part 2 ! 👍
@ianmoone23593 ай бұрын
Keen to know what the long shaft is for Max? As always, thoroughly enjoyable video of a complex job made to look “easy”. Once you see it, it makes sense of buying 6 jaw chuck & building angle plates and flat extension plate & lathe spider etc. A LOT of work & pre planning to get there in the end, but if (when) you have to do another long shaft spline job, your already tooled up for it. 👍
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
For something off a bit of farming equipment . 👍
@ianmoone23592 ай бұрын
@@swanvalleymachineshop Cheers. 👍
@alandawson28133 ай бұрын
Another awesome video video young max, from kiwi land
@RicktheRecorder3 ай бұрын
Not quite. Kangaroos.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@carlislesmachineshop4313 ай бұрын
Not many shops have the ability to do that job, looks nice, hopefully makes the months morgage payment.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Thanks . Just lucky my rotary table has a 65mm bore ! 👍
@advil0002 ай бұрын
No joke... "Hey, I need a near-interference fit spline shaft made out of this... (whips out a 4m long noodle of a bar)"
@markneedham46063 ай бұрын
@ 11:39 Even cutting gears, a great method of checking centre.😊
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@MattysWorkshop3 ай бұрын
Great job mate
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Cheers Matty 👍
@TangentJim2 ай бұрын
Max - Rotating the Shaft 180° to double check the center height of the form cutter was a Slick Move . I'm watching you. one bad move and I'll be on you like stink on shit. Four Thumbs up -- Jim
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Lol , no worries Jim . 👍
@mikewestbrook23193 ай бұрын
Thanks Maximus 😁
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@anthonycash46093 ай бұрын
Max I see you must have skipped school the day they were teaching how to color and stay within the lines. Just kidding mate , when you were trying to mark the blue lines that funny though came to mind..😜
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Lol , it was a tad awkward ! 👍
@cyclebuster3 ай бұрын
my boring bar holder is also completed today. I love this stuff. Watch every video! You had to raise your steady rest, I had to lower mine! And when I lock my mill knee it absolutely changes the setting. Are you going to harden the splines? I have to thread both ends of a 1 1/2in x 10ft bar in the next couple days, so i will be building a set of rollers.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Cheers . No , do not have to harden . Pre hard 4140 is already hard enough . 👍
@RalfyCustoms3 ай бұрын
G'day Max, cracking one as always mate, nice to see you use a test piece, thats something I do, but don't often see the practice on here, as others have said, it's great seeing all the shop made tooling used to great effect Thanks for sharing buddy, hope you're keeping well Edit: F@ckin microwave #! 😂😂😂😂
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Lol , Cheers Mate 👍👍👍
@MatthewTinker-au-pont-blanc3 ай бұрын
And all this started with your Grandad making wheel barrow axles in his shed........................................ All the best mate!!
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Dad making wheelbarrow axles in Grandads shed !!! 👍
@MatthewTinker-au-pont-blanc2 ай бұрын
@@swanvalleymachineshopI was nearly right! It's still a great story!
@be0073 ай бұрын
you pay big money for a gear cutter but I have never seen one on KZfaq on other channels that was seriously con centric and even cutting? If they only cut on a few teeth, you might as well make a gear cutter from HSS yourself. is a lot cheaper. nice video max. cheers ben.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
No worries . Yes , they never run true ! 👍
@highlandermachineworks57952 ай бұрын
What are you using for cameras? Your videos are so much clearer beyond what you're showing. The background is crisp.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
My mobile ! A Samsung Galaxy S25 i think it is . I have a gopro hero 10 , but the phone is way better . 👍
@highlandermachineworks57952 ай бұрын
@swanvalleymachineshop Wow. Thank you. I have an s20 available for use but, yours is way better. I have been looking into the dji: Action 3 and Action 4 cameras. But if I'm eligible for a free phone upgrade maybe I'll get an S25. Thanks again!!!
@simpleman2833 ай бұрын
👍
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Cheers 👍👍👍
@danflemmer19992 ай бұрын
RE: One tooth. . . I have one cutter that I think actually uses 4 or 5 teeth (lol). The rest could as well be fly cutters!(grin)
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Yes , i wish they made them better at times ! 👍
@williamfissell16942 ай бұрын
Max, when you were checking the runout on the cutter, the collars looked like they were all over the place. Are they just a loose fit on the arbor?
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
They are a neat fit on the arbor , but the o/d & chamfers are a bit off . 👍
@michaelcothran40643 ай бұрын
Termonology, I've always heard them called catheads, but Spider is OK with me
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Yes , there are a few variations . 👍
@RicktheRecorder2 ай бұрын
BTW, surely Aussies don't talk about 'the shop', which is where you buy stuff. What you are in is a workshop, and a very fine one at that.
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Thanks . Lol , sometimes i call it the workshop ! 👍
@highlandermachineworks57952 ай бұрын
Americans call it a shop as well. You're in the minority buddy.
@RicktheRecorder2 ай бұрын
@@highlandermachineworks5795 I am aware of that - that's why I made the comment. Australian culture/language is mainly British-derived, so he was obviously pandering to a US audience.
@highlandermachineworks57952 ай бұрын
@RicktheRecorder pandering? I doubt it. Are you easily offended or something? Seems like it hurt your feelings to be stretching it like that. Can't you just appreciate the mans skills, and his dedication to the trade?
@ShevillMathers2 ай бұрын
More Americanism’s are creeping into our Australian lingo, it’s a workshop and we measure ‘from’ not ‘off of’, we change our engine oil, we don’t ‘change out’ our engine oil, we give it a polish, not give it a ‘polish up’, and so it goes, we use fewer words.
@user-fy2tm2jg6c2 ай бұрын
Why did you need the 3 jaw chuck in the tail stock before using the steady rest to put in the center?
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
It aligned the shaft on centre . 👍
@alasdairhamilton15743 ай бұрын
Problem with the microwave oven, lost its ding 🛎️? 👍🏴
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Lost more than it's bloody ding ! 👍
@willemvantsant51053 ай бұрын
Hi Max, is that arbor nut LH or are my eyes playing tricks on me? Do the splines have to be online, if so will make an interesting setup. Is the 4140 prehard bar ground finish?
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Yes , the splines are clocked & 4140 prehard ground . 👍
@glenncpw3 ай бұрын
The last spline I cut, used the rule between the cutter and the victim as soon as I had the rule 90 degrees - she was right. Maybe I am a bit of a rough nut.. Good onya
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Cheers . Some cutters the tip profile is a bit off to use that method . 👍
@barrygerbracht50773 ай бұрын
Is there a key on the cutter arbor that I didn't see? Seems you are running it backwards and that it would potentially uncscrew the nut. (I'm sure you are fully aware of this, I'm just curious).
@ianmoone23593 ай бұрын
I suspect the video camera frame rate, coupled with the rotational speed of the cutter creates the impression it’s spinning backwards. Seems to happen on a great many milling machine videos & causes viewers to scratch their heads & wonder “I wonder why he’s running it backwards?” 🤷♂️ It’s all an optical delusion I tells ya’s. 😜😂😂😉
@barrygerbracht50773 ай бұрын
The cutter is installed to turn counter clockwise which would loosen the right hand thread on the arbor nut. @@ianmoone2359
@barrygerbracht50772 ай бұрын
I should clarify, by "backwards" I meant with the machine in reverse, not with the teeth cutting the wrong way. The cutter is installed upside down so it spins counter clockwise when looking down at it. Just to make sure I wasn't confusing something I checked again and saw there is a key in the arbor hence there is no issue with unscrewing the nut. @@ianmoone2359
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Has a keyway . 👍
@tapwater98433 ай бұрын
You wish you had some long shafting to play with.😂
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Lol , i do ! 👍
@billdoodson42323 ай бұрын
Jeez! Talk about measure 4 times and cut once. Mind you, I have done that and still got it wrong. 😢
@simpleman2833 ай бұрын
🤣
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Lol , i have to replace the stock if i screw up ! 👍
@RutherfordRyan13 ай бұрын
My knee locks up all the time….. Gives me the shits…..
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
My Bridgeport used to do that , until i scraped the top of the column . 👍
@GraemeStephens3 ай бұрын
all that to escape a bit of Housework ! ??
@swanvalleymachineshop2 ай бұрын
Yep ! I have a stove to install ! 👍
@user-ib3xt5os9v2 ай бұрын
Max, thank you for your instructional and entertaining videos.