How to machine a key way into gear with 150 ton hydraulic press? Featuring my dad Timo!
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@bkuker2 жыл бұрын
Who would have thought that a press inventing for crushing playing cards and clay figures would have some obscure industrial use!
@billr30532 жыл бұрын
They only do those "legitimate" things for tax write-off purposes.
@sepez2 жыл бұрын
Today I learned
@mysock351C2 жыл бұрын
Its not that obscure really. Its technically called broaching, and its a common use of a press, esp. in things like marine work with metal props that need to key onto shafts. There are other ways to do it, of course, but this is fairly simple and straightforward.
@mysock351C2 жыл бұрын
I've had to spec it a few times on parts and I do recall checking common broach sizes so the shop did not include custom tooling in their quotes, assuming that would be the machining method they chose.
@bkuker2 жыл бұрын
@@mysock351C ;) we know
@charlesendicott90442 жыл бұрын
Your sense of humor is definitely from your dad cherish your parents and the time you have with them what I would give to be able to work in the shop with my dad
@kraklakvakve2 жыл бұрын
This was the most advanced pusher for a keyway broach I have seen on KZfaq yet.
@Beyondthepress2 жыл бұрын
at least it has enough power :D
@kraklakvakve2 жыл бұрын
@@Beyondthepress That's true, the press is a bit overqualified maybe :-) But actually, I meant the rod used to push the broach through after it is fully pressed in. Most people just use a piece of straight rod or a punch and then try to catch it as it falls or fetch it from the floor. I liked yours having the proper shape to stay on top.
@arvidsalle29792 жыл бұрын
@@kraklakvakve pråfessional toool
@mrrandomperson31062 жыл бұрын
@@arvidsalle2979 Tüül
@GoogleAreDumb2 жыл бұрын
I've been learning Estonian for a year or so now, and it's fascinating being able to almost understand what's going on in Finnish now too. Also, thanks for showing us some real-world use of the tools, it's always a nice change of pace!
@hunterhunt97022 жыл бұрын
Hats off to you buddy, learning a language is tedious task, keep it up.
@GoogleAreDumb2 жыл бұрын
@@hunterhunt9702 Hah, that it is. Languages definitely aren't my strong point, and Estonian/Finnish are a bugger to learn as an English speaker. Certainly gives me a newfound respect for how well Lauri and co. speak English, because I imagine it's just as bad the other way round!
@hunterhunt97022 жыл бұрын
@@GoogleAreDumb Of course it's hard, frustrated, it's got a start but no end, but absolutely rewarding man, you may find anther you right a cross the glob. :D
@Zherec2 жыл бұрын
For a Finn hearing Estonian is bit like not being sure if you are having a stroke or not. Everything sounds familiar,, but doesn't make sense.
@juhomaki-petaja2 жыл бұрын
@@GoogleAreDumb English is so easy language to learn. Lauri is talking "rally english" for purpose. I bet he can talk much better.
@microbuilder2 жыл бұрын
I think my favorite professional english speaking phrase from you was 'molten water', when describing the lake that was no longer covered in ice lol
@MatthewJones5552 жыл бұрын
It's weird seeing the press being used without the blast shield! 😂 I love seeing these videos of real work with the press, thanks Lauri!
@oxoniumgirl2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this one, Lauri! Even though it was short and simple it was nice to see more of the shop and daily shop life, plus it's always nice to see Timo! He strikes me as such an adorable young "old man", hehe.
@tommyfrerking2 жыл бұрын
Concerning your comments on the last video about what content you want to make for this channel: I vote for more of this! The first video I watched of yours (from any of your channels) was a lathe video and I loved it! Hydraulic press is fun but for the gear-heads this real work stuff is great to see!
@joshuagibson25202 жыл бұрын
Timo is a treasure.
@WoodworkerDon2 жыл бұрын
Timo! Timo! Timo! 👍
@ka9dgx2 жыл бұрын
I worked in a gear shop, and we had a horizontal broaching machine that pulled in a broach about 1 meter long with a big hydraulic cylinder. We also had a vertical broacher that used a single cutter, and a wedge that slowly pushed the cutter forward after each stroke. Those hard cutting tools work well, as long as you don't drop them, or overload them... and they shatter.
@brianevans42 жыл бұрын
Does the tool just compress the metal in the region that it cuts out, or does it actually remove material by shaving away a millimeter each time?
@ka9dgx2 жыл бұрын
@@brianevans4 Yes, a millimeter each time (more or less) each tooth on the broach is slightly further forward (0.01mm) than the one before this, thus a string of these cutting edges adds up over time. The shims are usually 0.010" (0.25 mm), and get added to push the whole thing forward after each pass. In general, you can't compress metal, you can only cause it to flow if you exceed it's elastic limit, which can be 100,000 psi or more for steel. If you managed to do that with the keyway, you would simply distort the gear and make it unusable. Material removal is the only way to go.
@IstasPumaNevada2 жыл бұрын
It was great seeing your dad showing us how to machine something. I like hearing Finnish too, at least with subtitles. :)
@briggsfamily13032 жыл бұрын
Cherish these moments with your dad.....it’s very special🥰
@andreschiriff4354 Жыл бұрын
It was nice to hear you speaking in your own language I really enjoy listening to your accent. And it was cool to see you with your father 👍
@HebaruSan2 жыл бұрын
When I first heard Lauri's voice on HPC, pre-face reveal, I expected him to look like Timo :)
@BCH3202 жыл бұрын
Very satisfying video. Don't know why. Keep on filming small or big work in the shop. Always a pleasure to watch :D
@jimwright83792 жыл бұрын
Your Dad is Cool, my kind of Machinist!
@JeepinBoon2 жыл бұрын
One of my best machine mods was made with a key broach. Took an old 24" cast iron pulley and cut off the outer ring. Bored the hole to fit my arbor press handle shaft. Broached a new 1/4" keyway and machined keyway on arbor press shaft. Now I gotta wagon wheel arbor press. No more bent handles or awkward handle angles and the press defaults to the ram down position.
@TentoesMe2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. And thanks for having Timo on! Tell Anni we miss her.
@TheJordanAntibellum2 жыл бұрын
The machining videos are always my favorite
@westherm2 жыл бұрын
I love this type of content! I always recommend these machining videos to the younger engineers that work for me that are sadly too computer bound and not in the shop enough.
@Toobula2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work and your dad is awesome. I'd be interested in the maintenance required for the press - servicing the hydraulics, etc.
@fisqual2 жыл бұрын
Same! I wanna see the guts.
@CitizenAyellowblue2 жыл бұрын
Yes please. More like this.
@oldgreggscreamybaileys66182 жыл бұрын
You learn something new everyday
@westherm2 жыл бұрын
You have a tremendous channel name.
@oldgreggscreamybaileys66182 жыл бұрын
@@westherm Thank you Andrew
@lancepage1914 Жыл бұрын
I used to work in an industrial battery plant, I was just a process worker yet I needed to know how to mechanically fix all the machinery I operated and sometimes I couldn't rely on the fitters and turners. One time the keyhole of a gear was worn out rendering it useless. The turner made a slightly bigger keyhole with the same method. I learnt a lot of trade secrets from fitters in my time there which I taught some of the methods to my father. I miss working in the factory, I always found the machinery and production methods fascinating.
@sublimeDom7772 жыл бұрын
This is really cool to watch. I would love to see more of how you use the press for work.
@tracybowling11562 жыл бұрын
WTG Timo! That was really cool to see actual work done with the press.
@jamessotherden59092 жыл бұрын
I have never seen that done before. Thank you.
@CrudeButEfficient2 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy seeing all your toys being used as they were supposed to, just to mix it up! 😁
@ClaytonDarwin2 жыл бұрын
I like these videos where you make things as much as the ones where you destroy things.
@Neraxia2 жыл бұрын
More Timo content please :)
@chrisbeck21972 жыл бұрын
It's great to see real craftsmen at work.
@ericm88112 жыл бұрын
Hey Beyond the press channel! Yay Timo! He's the best! Ride ride ride!
@robdenton15682 жыл бұрын
That one was too funny to me. The entire time I thought it was you on the press then the camera pans up and who do we see…YOUR DAD!! Keep up the great work!
@gibbsm2 жыл бұрын
Hey Timo! I love father and son videos.
@nadieselgirl2 жыл бұрын
Very cool! Thank you for sharing this! I'd have not guessed this was a way to do this.
@The_Modeling_Underdog2 жыл бұрын
Wholesome video, Lauri. Watching Timo work reminds me of the old days helping my father around the work bench. Cheers, mate.
@edsmachine932 жыл бұрын
Nice work. Now that's a big press. Great content. Thank you from the USA, EM.
@16BitDungeon2 жыл бұрын
Love this type of content.
@josephsoliman71762 жыл бұрын
I watch a bunch of blacksmithing channels and I always wondered how those key ways were made. Thanks for the video!
@adrielburned69242 жыл бұрын
That was a great little video! Sending ya love from the USA!
@joew4262 жыл бұрын
Well I learned two things today. (1) how to make a key-way, and (2) what a key-way is.
@thomaskoevoets10212 жыл бұрын
More content like this! Real work on the press or the other machines 👌👍
@succuvamp_anna2 жыл бұрын
You and your dad sounds almost identical lol, I miss working with my dad with things.
@mechbfp32192 жыл бұрын
Hey this was a really cool change of pace from the normal videos. Learned something new. :)
@johannsmith56972 жыл бұрын
ty this channel is much better than the other one, driving on ice, machining, blowing things up, buying shit box cars, tinkering, its awesome because you have a unique life!
@bernardfender51472 жыл бұрын
Definitely more of this please.
@Ralesk2 жыл бұрын
Timo is always fun to see in your videos ^^
@almusur17812 жыл бұрын
Thank you, that was really interesting. Feel free to do more videos on machining things.
@JoelleTheAbsurdist2 жыл бұрын
Always love the real work videos
@EVLfreak6662 жыл бұрын
I love watching machine shops do this kind of stuff. I always wondered how keyways were cut.👍
@perniciouspete49862 жыл бұрын
Ah, that was fun. And interesting. And informative. Kiitos.
@BenjySparky2 жыл бұрын
Lauri and Timo y'all rock! Love the channel and content! I'm here for the algorithm! Peace
@georgeh5075 Жыл бұрын
"My athletic body is just hiding" 😅 I'll have to start using that one
@ilokivi2 жыл бұрын
Kiitos Lauri ja Timo, ja hyvää päivänjatkoa.
@zagaberoo2 жыл бұрын
Foreign languages are like music to me, and Finnish sounds great! I've learned about broaching from This Old Tony, but it's cool seeing it on an industrial scale like this.
@ithasbeenwritten2224 ай бұрын
Thank you for the education!
@bradklingensmith2 жыл бұрын
Very cool to see it do some rea work as well as the fun stuff.
@fredrikfarkas2 жыл бұрын
Cool vid from actual use!
@danielforrest38712 жыл бұрын
Love the content.
@genevasimmonds82082 жыл бұрын
I never seen that, so great.
@OldWhitebelly2 жыл бұрын
+1 for showing a bit of actual work; sometimes that's just as entertaining as the silly stuff.
@scrotiemcboogerballs19812 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing buddy
@offdagrid8772 жыл бұрын
Thank you Timo and Laurie
@rickcolston20912 жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@kreterakete2 жыл бұрын
Super interesting and fun to watch! Hugs and happy bunny spirit from Berlin.
@joeljezequel2 жыл бұрын
nice, and I'm happy to ear some finnish as I'm learning it :)
@gth0422 жыл бұрын
This is the most docile use of the press this channel has ever seen. Certainly not the most productive, but docile indeed. :) Pops looks pretty good. Hug em' tight, and enjoy the spring together. Maybe he can ride one of your bicycles -- with gopro of course. :)
@gafrers2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful
@countryracer692 жыл бұрын
Before I was into machining I had several of those broaches and had no clue what they were for. So I probably gave them away or just lost them. Now im trying to find new. Been using the Bridgeport as my press
@fisqual2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I like smashing stuff but I really love seeing practical uses for a press! I have a little 10 ton hand driven hydraulic press and I use it probably once every 2 weeks. The more I can use it, the closer I am to justifying buying an electric one. haha
@JackdeDuCoeur2 жыл бұрын
That was great!
@kennyrogersfan2 жыл бұрын
Bitte mehr solche Videos! 😍🤟
@alfadoofus2 жыл бұрын
I like that you had Timo show you how not to play with the press . Maybe next time you get him an orange wig
@dalton15832 жыл бұрын
Nice video
@bill46392 жыл бұрын
i need that same gear for my new press. Please make 2 more
@rychron2 жыл бұрын
Wow I had no idea this was a possibility, very cool! Great to see you and your father having a nice time making a video together :) What material is that tool made of? Must be much stronger than the gear, right?
@paulhyland46532 жыл бұрын
Nice one 👍
@10lauset2 жыл бұрын
.. Cheers to you ..
@Dwdanieldotdd2 жыл бұрын
AKA Broaching a keyway. Good technique 👌 Tootles... Wade
@maggs1312 жыл бұрын
I would absolutely love to see a 32mm broach cutter. I honestly didn't know they came that large 😲
@johndododoe14112 жыл бұрын
Maybe they are used on big turbine or ship main shafts?
@bd65012 жыл бұрын
Realize that when a broach breaks it shatters into projectiles that will penetrate the body. My shop had person loose one lung due to broach breaking for no reason we could determine other than it had a manufacturer defect. The machine had a plexiglas guard, but the operator had failed to put it in place. Good videos you channel does.
@planetrob5552 жыл бұрын
More!
@BriankSmith1812 жыл бұрын
bad ass,cool, makes me think of metal shop in highschool
@davidsquall3512 жыл бұрын
Professionals make it look easy.
@chuppoacobra2 жыл бұрын
Dad!! Cool!
@Itsa_Mea2 жыл бұрын
In the US we call that Broaching.
@SpaceTech54 Жыл бұрын
If you don't have a milling machine - this works great.
@46inchwoody2 жыл бұрын
Nice job! Almost as fast as using a shaper.
@elijenkins61292 жыл бұрын
Way cool
@paulkersey88652 жыл бұрын
welcome back! where the hell have you been?!
@frogalex2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@brianm63372 жыл бұрын
I came back from camping, I am catching up on videos, and I have NO idea, what you have done. 😁👍 Also- how hard would it be to dig a tunnel to Finland using only a garden trowel? Asking for a friend.
@sg28232 жыл бұрын
Timo! hyvää työtä
@LordWaldema2 жыл бұрын
I always imagined they use kind of a large jigsaw for this
@pankothompson59032 жыл бұрын
nice
@jo-han2 жыл бұрын
So it is just like a very thick but very slow saw blade. And each tooth of the blade is just the tiniest bit longer then the previous tooth so that with 16 teeth each taking 1/16th of a millimeter you eventually cut out 1 millimeter? And that proces is done because that way we have way more control and way more precision then just using some form of a saw? Did I get that right?
@Mobosh2 жыл бұрын
never knew you could maek keyways this way. and it actually produces p9 tolerances even though it shaves of so much each pass? intriguing.
@0nesinner2 жыл бұрын
Just like putting rifling in a gun barrel. I worked in a machine shop / foundry
@jjohnston942 жыл бұрын
What keeps the shims (filler pieces) from falling out the bottom along with the broach?
@GaryVirta2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering that too at first, but I think they have a little T-shaped shoulder at the top that they sit on
@jjohnston942 жыл бұрын
@@GaryVirta Oh, yep. You can see it right at the beginning where they're laying on the table.