Machining Key Way with Hydraulic Press

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Beyond the press

Beyond the press

2 жыл бұрын

How to machine a key way into gear with 150 ton hydraulic press? Featuring my dad Timo!

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@bkuker
@bkuker 2 жыл бұрын
Who would have thought that a press inventing for crushing playing cards and clay figures would have some obscure industrial use!
@billr3053
@billr3053 2 жыл бұрын
They only do those "legitimate" things for tax write-off purposes.
@sepez
@sepez 2 жыл бұрын
Today I learned
@mysock351C
@mysock351C 2 жыл бұрын
Its not that obscure really. Its technically called broaching, and its a common use of a press, esp. in things like marine work with metal props that need to key onto shafts. There are other ways to do it, of course, but this is fairly simple and straightforward.
@mysock351C
@mysock351C 2 жыл бұрын
I've had to spec it a few times on parts and I do recall checking common broach sizes so the shop did not include custom tooling in their quotes, assuming that would be the machining method they chose.
@bkuker
@bkuker 2 жыл бұрын
@@mysock351C ;) we know
@charlesendicott9044
@charlesendicott9044 2 жыл бұрын
Your sense of humor is definitely from your dad cherish your parents and the time you have with them what I would give to be able to work in the shop with my dad
@kraklakvakve
@kraklakvakve 2 жыл бұрын
This was the most advanced pusher for a keyway broach I have seen on KZfaq yet.
@Beyondthepress
@Beyondthepress 2 жыл бұрын
at least it has enough power :D
@kraklakvakve
@kraklakvakve 2 жыл бұрын
@@Beyondthepress That's true, the press is a bit overqualified maybe :-) But actually, I meant the rod used to push the broach through after it is fully pressed in. Most people just use a piece of straight rod or a punch and then try to catch it as it falls or fetch it from the floor. I liked yours having the proper shape to stay on top.
@arvidsalle2979
@arvidsalle2979 2 жыл бұрын
@@kraklakvakve pråfessional toool
@mrrandomperson3106
@mrrandomperson3106 2 жыл бұрын
@@arvidsalle2979 Tüül
@GoogleAreDumb
@GoogleAreDumb 2 жыл бұрын
I've been learning Estonian for a year or so now, and it's fascinating being able to almost understand what's going on in Finnish now too. Also, thanks for showing us some real-world use of the tools, it's always a nice change of pace!
@hunterhunt9702
@hunterhunt9702 2 жыл бұрын
Hats off to you buddy, learning a language is tedious task, keep it up.
@GoogleAreDumb
@GoogleAreDumb 2 жыл бұрын
@@hunterhunt9702 Hah, that it is. Languages definitely aren't my strong point, and Estonian/Finnish are a bugger to learn as an English speaker. Certainly gives me a newfound respect for how well Lauri and co. speak English, because I imagine it's just as bad the other way round!
@hunterhunt9702
@hunterhunt9702 2 жыл бұрын
@@GoogleAreDumb Of course it's hard, frustrated, it's got a start but no end, but absolutely rewarding man, you may find anther you right a cross the glob. :D
@Zherec
@Zherec 2 жыл бұрын
For a Finn hearing Estonian is bit like not being sure if you are having a stroke or not. Everything sounds familiar,, but doesn't make sense.
@juhomaki-petaja
@juhomaki-petaja 2 жыл бұрын
@@GoogleAreDumb English is so easy language to learn. Lauri is talking "rally english" for purpose. I bet he can talk much better.
@microbuilder
@microbuilder 2 жыл бұрын
I think my favorite professional english speaking phrase from you was 'molten water', when describing the lake that was no longer covered in ice lol
@MatthewJones555
@MatthewJones555 2 жыл бұрын
It's weird seeing the press being used without the blast shield! 😂 I love seeing these videos of real work with the press, thanks Lauri!
@oxoniumgirl
@oxoniumgirl 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this one, Lauri! Even though it was short and simple it was nice to see more of the shop and daily shop life, plus it's always nice to see Timo! He strikes me as such an adorable young "old man", hehe.
@tommyfrerking
@tommyfrerking 2 жыл бұрын
Concerning your comments on the last video about what content you want to make for this channel: I vote for more of this! The first video I watched of yours (from any of your channels) was a lathe video and I loved it! Hydraulic press is fun but for the gear-heads this real work stuff is great to see!
@joshuagibson2520
@joshuagibson2520 2 жыл бұрын
Timo is a treasure.
@WoodworkerDon
@WoodworkerDon 2 жыл бұрын
Timo! Timo! Timo! 👍
@ka9dgx
@ka9dgx 2 жыл бұрын
I worked in a gear shop, and we had a horizontal broaching machine that pulled in a broach about 1 meter long with a big hydraulic cylinder. We also had a vertical broacher that used a single cutter, and a wedge that slowly pushed the cutter forward after each stroke. Those hard cutting tools work well, as long as you don't drop them, or overload them... and they shatter.
@brianevans4
@brianevans4 2 жыл бұрын
Does the tool just compress the metal in the region that it cuts out, or does it actually remove material by shaving away a millimeter each time?
@ka9dgx
@ka9dgx 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianevans4 Yes, a millimeter each time (more or less) each tooth on the broach is slightly further forward (0.01mm) than the one before this, thus a string of these cutting edges adds up over time. The shims are usually 0.010" (0.25 mm), and get added to push the whole thing forward after each pass. In general, you can't compress metal, you can only cause it to flow if you exceed it's elastic limit, which can be 100,000 psi or more for steel. If you managed to do that with the keyway, you would simply distort the gear and make it unusable. Material removal is the only way to go.
@IstasPumaNevada
@IstasPumaNevada 2 жыл бұрын
It was great seeing your dad showing us how to machine something. I like hearing Finnish too, at least with subtitles. :)
@briggsfamily1303
@briggsfamily1303 2 жыл бұрын
Cherish these moments with your dad.....it’s very special🥰
@andreschiriff4354
@andreschiriff4354 Жыл бұрын
It was nice to hear you speaking in your own language I really enjoy listening to your accent. And it was cool to see you with your father 👍
@HebaruSan
@HebaruSan 2 жыл бұрын
When I first heard Lauri's voice on HPC, pre-face reveal, I expected him to look like Timo :)
@BCH320
@BCH320 2 жыл бұрын
Very satisfying video. Don't know why. Keep on filming small or big work in the shop. Always a pleasure to watch :D
@jimwright8379
@jimwright8379 2 жыл бұрын
Your Dad is Cool, my kind of Machinist!
@JeepinBoon
@JeepinBoon 2 жыл бұрын
One of my best machine mods was made with a key broach. Took an old 24" cast iron pulley and cut off the outer ring. Bored the hole to fit my arbor press handle shaft. Broached a new 1/4" keyway and machined keyway on arbor press shaft. Now I gotta wagon wheel arbor press. No more bent handles or awkward handle angles and the press defaults to the ram down position.
@TentoesMe
@TentoesMe 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. And thanks for having Timo on! Tell Anni we miss her.
@TheJordanAntibellum
@TheJordanAntibellum 2 жыл бұрын
The machining videos are always my favorite
@westherm
@westherm 2 жыл бұрын
I love this type of content! I always recommend these machining videos to the younger engineers that work for me that are sadly too computer bound and not in the shop enough.
@Toobula
@Toobula 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work and your dad is awesome. I'd be interested in the maintenance required for the press - servicing the hydraulics, etc.
@fisqual
@fisqual 2 жыл бұрын
Same! I wanna see the guts.
@CitizenAyellowblue
@CitizenAyellowblue 2 жыл бұрын
Yes please. More like this.
@oldgreggscreamybaileys6618
@oldgreggscreamybaileys6618 2 жыл бұрын
You learn something new everyday
@westherm
@westherm 2 жыл бұрын
You have a tremendous channel name.
@oldgreggscreamybaileys6618
@oldgreggscreamybaileys6618 2 жыл бұрын
@@westherm Thank you Andrew
@lancepage1914
@lancepage1914 Жыл бұрын
I used to work in an industrial battery plant, I was just a process worker yet I needed to know how to mechanically fix all the machinery I operated and sometimes I couldn't rely on the fitters and turners. One time the keyhole of a gear was worn out rendering it useless. The turner made a slightly bigger keyhole with the same method. I learnt a lot of trade secrets from fitters in my time there which I taught some of the methods to my father. I miss working in the factory, I always found the machinery and production methods fascinating.
@sublimeDom777
@sublimeDom777 2 жыл бұрын
This is really cool to watch. I would love to see more of how you use the press for work.
@tracybowling1156
@tracybowling1156 2 жыл бұрын
WTG Timo! That was really cool to see actual work done with the press.
@jamessotherden5909
@jamessotherden5909 2 жыл бұрын
I have never seen that done before. Thank you.
@CrudeButEfficient
@CrudeButEfficient 2 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy seeing all your toys being used as they were supposed to, just to mix it up! 😁
@ClaytonDarwin
@ClaytonDarwin 2 жыл бұрын
I like these videos where you make things as much as the ones where you destroy things.
@Neraxia
@Neraxia 2 жыл бұрын
More Timo content please :)
@chrisbeck2197
@chrisbeck2197 2 жыл бұрын
It's great to see real craftsmen at work.
@ericm8811
@ericm8811 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Beyond the press channel! Yay Timo! He's the best! Ride ride ride!
@robdenton1568
@robdenton1568 2 жыл бұрын
That one was too funny to me. The entire time I thought it was you on the press then the camera pans up and who do we see…YOUR DAD!! Keep up the great work!
@gibbsm
@gibbsm 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Timo! I love father and son videos.
@nadieselgirl
@nadieselgirl 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool! Thank you for sharing this! I'd have not guessed this was a way to do this.
@The_Modeling_Underdog
@The_Modeling_Underdog 2 жыл бұрын
Wholesome video, Lauri. Watching Timo work reminds me of the old days helping my father around the work bench. Cheers, mate.
@edsmachine93
@edsmachine93 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work. Now that's a big press. Great content. Thank you from the USA, EM.
@16BitDungeon
@16BitDungeon 2 жыл бұрын
Love this type of content.
@josephsoliman7176
@josephsoliman7176 2 жыл бұрын
I watch a bunch of blacksmithing channels and I always wondered how those key ways were made. Thanks for the video!
@adrielburned6924
@adrielburned6924 2 жыл бұрын
That was a great little video! Sending ya love from the USA!
@joew426
@joew426 2 жыл бұрын
Well I learned two things today. (1) how to make a key-way, and (2) what a key-way is.
@thomaskoevoets1021
@thomaskoevoets1021 2 жыл бұрын
More content like this! Real work on the press or the other machines 👌👍
@succuvamp_anna
@succuvamp_anna 2 жыл бұрын
You and your dad sounds almost identical lol, I miss working with my dad with things.
@mechbfp3219
@mechbfp3219 2 жыл бұрын
Hey this was a really cool change of pace from the normal videos. Learned something new. :)
@johannsmith5697
@johannsmith5697 2 жыл бұрын
ty this channel is much better than the other one, driving on ice, machining, blowing things up, buying shit box cars, tinkering, its awesome because you have a unique life!
@bernardfender5147
@bernardfender5147 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely more of this please.
@Ralesk
@Ralesk 2 жыл бұрын
Timo is always fun to see in your videos ^^
@almusur1781
@almusur1781 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, that was really interesting. Feel free to do more videos on machining things.
@JoelleTheAbsurdist
@JoelleTheAbsurdist 2 жыл бұрын
Always love the real work videos
@EVLfreak666
@EVLfreak666 2 жыл бұрын
I love watching machine shops do this kind of stuff. I always wondered how keyways were cut.👍
@perniciouspete4986
@perniciouspete4986 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, that was fun. And interesting. And informative. Kiitos.
@BenjySparky
@BenjySparky 2 жыл бұрын
Lauri and Timo y'all rock! Love the channel and content! I'm here for the algorithm! Peace
@georgeh5075
@georgeh5075 Жыл бұрын
"My athletic body is just hiding" 😅 I'll have to start using that one
@ilokivi
@ilokivi 2 жыл бұрын
Kiitos Lauri ja Timo, ja hyvää päivänjatkoa.
@zagaberoo
@zagaberoo 2 жыл бұрын
Foreign languages are like music to me, and Finnish sounds great! I've learned about broaching from This Old Tony, but it's cool seeing it on an industrial scale like this.
@ithasbeenwritten222
@ithasbeenwritten222 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the education!
@bradklingensmith
@bradklingensmith 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool to see it do some rea work as well as the fun stuff.
@fredrikfarkas
@fredrikfarkas 2 жыл бұрын
Cool vid from actual use!
@danielforrest3871
@danielforrest3871 2 жыл бұрын
Love the content.
@genevasimmonds8208
@genevasimmonds8208 2 жыл бұрын
I never seen that, so great.
@OldWhitebelly
@OldWhitebelly 2 жыл бұрын
+1 for showing a bit of actual work; sometimes that's just as entertaining as the silly stuff.
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing buddy
@offdagrid877
@offdagrid877 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Timo and Laurie
@rickcolston2091
@rickcolston2091 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@kreterakete
@kreterakete 2 жыл бұрын
Super interesting and fun to watch! Hugs and happy bunny spirit from Berlin.
@joeljezequel
@joeljezequel 2 жыл бұрын
nice, and I'm happy to ear some finnish as I'm learning it :)
@gth042
@gth042 2 жыл бұрын
This is the most docile use of the press this channel has ever seen. Certainly not the most productive, but docile indeed. :) Pops looks pretty good. Hug em' tight, and enjoy the spring together. Maybe he can ride one of your bicycles -- with gopro of course. :)
@gafrers
@gafrers 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful
@countryracer69
@countryracer69 2 жыл бұрын
Before I was into machining I had several of those broaches and had no clue what they were for. So I probably gave them away or just lost them. Now im trying to find new. Been using the Bridgeport as my press
@fisqual
@fisqual 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I like smashing stuff but I really love seeing practical uses for a press! I have a little 10 ton hand driven hydraulic press and I use it probably once every 2 weeks. The more I can use it, the closer I am to justifying buying an electric one. haha
@JackdeDuCoeur
@JackdeDuCoeur 2 жыл бұрын
That was great!
@kennyrogersfan
@kennyrogersfan 2 жыл бұрын
Bitte mehr solche Videos! 😍🤟
@alfadoofus
@alfadoofus 2 жыл бұрын
I like that you had Timo show you how not to play with the press . Maybe next time you get him an orange wig
@dalton1583
@dalton1583 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video
@bill4639
@bill4639 2 жыл бұрын
i need that same gear for my new press. Please make 2 more
@rychron
@rychron 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I had no idea this was a possibility, very cool! Great to see you and your father having a nice time making a video together :) What material is that tool made of? Must be much stronger than the gear, right?
@paulhyland4653
@paulhyland4653 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one 👍
@10lauset
@10lauset 2 жыл бұрын
.. Cheers to you ..
@Dwdanieldotdd
@Dwdanieldotdd 2 жыл бұрын
AKA Broaching a keyway. Good technique 👌 Tootles... Wade
@maggs131
@maggs131 2 жыл бұрын
I would absolutely love to see a 32mm broach cutter. I honestly didn't know they came that large 😲
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they are used on big turbine or ship main shafts?
@bd6501
@bd6501 2 жыл бұрын
Realize that when a broach breaks it shatters into projectiles that will penetrate the body. My shop had person loose one lung due to broach breaking for no reason we could determine other than it had a manufacturer defect. The machine had a plexiglas guard, but the operator had failed to put it in place. Good videos you channel does.
@planetrob555
@planetrob555 2 жыл бұрын
More!
@BriankSmith181
@BriankSmith181 2 жыл бұрын
bad ass,cool, makes me think of metal shop in highschool
@davidsquall351
@davidsquall351 2 жыл бұрын
Professionals make it look easy.
@chuppoacobra
@chuppoacobra 2 жыл бұрын
Dad!! Cool!
@Itsa_Mea
@Itsa_Mea 2 жыл бұрын
In the US we call that Broaching.
@SpaceTech54
@SpaceTech54 Жыл бұрын
If you don't have a milling machine - this works great.
@46inchwoody
@46inchwoody 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job! Almost as fast as using a shaper.
@elijenkins6129
@elijenkins6129 2 жыл бұрын
Way cool
@paulkersey8865
@paulkersey8865 2 жыл бұрын
welcome back! where the hell have you been?!
@frogalex
@frogalex 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@brianm6337
@brianm6337 2 жыл бұрын
I came back from camping, I am catching up on videos, and I have NO idea, what you have done. 😁👍 Also- how hard would it be to dig a tunnel to Finland using only a garden trowel? Asking for a friend.
@sg2823
@sg2823 2 жыл бұрын
Timo! hyvää työtä
@LordWaldema
@LordWaldema 2 жыл бұрын
I always imagined they use kind of a large jigsaw for this
@pankothompson5903
@pankothompson5903 2 жыл бұрын
nice
@jo-han
@jo-han 2 жыл бұрын
So it is just like a very thick but very slow saw blade. And each tooth of the blade is just the tiniest bit longer then the previous tooth so that with 16 teeth each taking 1/16th of a millimeter you eventually cut out 1 millimeter? And that proces is done because that way we have way more control and way more precision then just using some form of a saw? Did I get that right?
@Mobosh
@Mobosh 2 жыл бұрын
never knew you could maek keyways this way. and it actually produces p9 tolerances even though it shaves of so much each pass? intriguing.
@0nesinner
@0nesinner 2 жыл бұрын
Just like putting rifling in a gun barrel. I worked in a machine shop / foundry
@jjohnston94
@jjohnston94 2 жыл бұрын
What keeps the shims (filler pieces) from falling out the bottom along with the broach?
@GaryVirta
@GaryVirta 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering that too at first, but I think they have a little T-shaped shoulder at the top that they sit on
@jjohnston94
@jjohnston94 2 жыл бұрын
@@GaryVirta Oh, yep. You can see it right at the beginning where they're laying on the table.
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