Giving The OG XBOX Quadruple The RAM

Giving The OG XBOX Quadruple The RAM | Never Done Before!

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For the first time ever, we can increase the RAM in the original XBOX from 64MB to 256MB! That’s 4 times the original amount! This has never been done before. And previously, the maximum amount of RAM we could upgrade the XBOX to was 128MB. But now that we are able to increase the RAM to 256MB are there any improvements or increase in gaming performance? Find out in this video!
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@ErnestJay88 5 күн бұрын

Upgrade the CPU Upgrade the ram i bet future video be like "Install faster GPU" in the end, modders accidentally create *Xbox 360* by upgrading original Xbox.

@NitNek_ 20 сағат бұрын

Let them cook...

@Galavis. 5 күн бұрын

I prefer downloading more ram

@nunyabusiness69 5 күн бұрын

The only acceptable way

@nick-leffler 5 күн бұрын

Would you download a car?

@outerzevin1366 5 күн бұрын

Same, but this mod will be great for people whose internet connection is too slow to download RAM efficiently!

@EnlightenAlchemist 5 күн бұрын

It's always better.

@dennistzortzopoulos8606 5 күн бұрын

@@nick-leffleryep

@RedBeardedGriffUK 5 күн бұрын

It would be interesting to see how well Half-Life 2 performs with the additional RAM

@pavma7 5 күн бұрын

And StarCraft Ghost

@UserX-02 5 күн бұрын

True

@blitzerblazinoah6838 5 күн бұрын

Doom 3 as well.

@johnbrooks6243 5 күн бұрын

R they coded to take advantage of more available ram?

@misterjeffa2128 5 күн бұрын

Likely no change as they dont expect the increased amounts and look for the stock amount only.

@Rexter2k 4 күн бұрын

I think the actual "pro" of this mod is that eventually we are gonna run out of chips to do the classic 128mb ram mod, and this is a good replacement for that eventuality.

@otterpopdotorg 5 күн бұрын

I love this for the "because we can" level of upgrade.

@thomashunt2240 5 күн бұрын

That improvised heat shield was an inspired idea, reusable and simple!

@UberMicroRepairs 4 күн бұрын

not necessary.

@Nihongames 5 күн бұрын

Well I can see some scenarios where additional RAM could theoretically help + 720p patches + PC Ports or better pc ports + Texture improvement mods in games + Emulators + Sega chihiro games

@XenonG 5 күн бұрын

Gonna need to combine a 1.4Ghz Pentium III replacement, plus the SEGA Chihiro GPU. Might as well think about a new motherboard. :P

@windowsxpnt2347 5 күн бұрын

@@XenonG iirc the sega chihiro gpu is just the same one as an og xbox, maybe a bit higher clocked

@windowsxpnt2347 5 күн бұрын

hopefully this can allow for i/o emulation for wangan mmt1 and 2. would be really cool to be able to finally play those games at home

@gameblabla 5 күн бұрын

There are some games patched at 1080i (Halo 2 HD, PSO) that can still run out of memory even with 128MB ram mod. (in the case of halo, he had to dial down the texture cache size to make it work) If they can fix the memory speed issue on the original kernel, it would help us run halo 2 at 1080i better (the guy who made the patch theorized the game was possibly starved for memory bandwidth). Besides that, there's also the port of ReactOS that can benefit. I would like to see where this is going.

@SargentoDuke 4 күн бұрын

128mb is enought for 720p patches, that need 900mhz at least to run... and few need 1.4ghz cpu to run. The ram is to... install a proper OPERATING SYSTEM on the Xbox making it a MODERN CONSOLE... a Dashboard that can actually act as a operating system... imagine XBox running Android by example, its possible as Android ran so well on 256mb ram phones on the past...

@SocialisedMedicine 5 күн бұрын

My gut instinct is that the stability issues are due to the interposer increasing the length of the PCB traces. I know from personal experience that one traces being just one or two mm longer can cause errors in signaling, even at the slower speeds that these old devices run at. Also this is even more obscure, but changing the width of the traces can cause weirdness with signal reflection. If the interposer uses thinner traces and doesn't perfectly length match them then that's my bet for the core problem.

@talibong9518 5 күн бұрын

I'd say it's more likely just a faulty chip or a little extra voltage is needed

@mikeyjnz 4 күн бұрын

I don't know if it was still a thing in the celeron era the Xbox was built on, but older PC's if you wanted to go above a certain threshold of ram, it'd actually run slower if you didn't have an equivalent increase in the CPU cache memory that stored the increased address range of the system ram. Given the whole point of celerons was same MHz with less caching for cheaper, if this was paired with the CPU upgrade mod, would that unlock the proper speed and reliability of the extra megabytes?

@official_kex 5 күн бұрын

Why would anyone upgrade the RAM of their original XBOX if it has no use? *BECAUSE THEY FKIN CAN* - And i think thats amazing

@JoshLineberry 5 күн бұрын

256mb of ram would actually be so amazing for me! It's something I've been wanting for a long time!

@another3997 4 күн бұрын

Amazing? Yes. Practical? Not really. Dangerous to the health of your Xbox? Possibly. I mean, I can chop my hand off if I want to... but just because I can, doesn't mean it's a good idea. 😂

@BlueEyedVibeChecker 4 күн бұрын

@another3997 It may be a good idea if you're hungry. You may be out of food, but you're not out of options.

@edale2 5 күн бұрын

The thing to do here is to start with 2 working unmodded original Xboxes. Take the RAM chips out of one, and put them in the other, making that one a 128 MB mod; then put these chips in the other Xbox, making it a 256 MB mod. No waste.

@amshermansen 5 күн бұрын

Gotta appreciate the continued efforts to refuse to let this console die. The chips should come pre-bent though imo. Just to ensure a safe and consistent install.

@fenriswolfretro6729 5 күн бұрын

Where this modification will really shine is in improving the performance of current emulators that run on the original xbox. More RAM = more space to load ROMs into for a smoother performance. But they would have to each be modified to take advantage of the extra RAM.

@ThexthSurvivor 4 күн бұрын

I was about to comment the same thing. 👍

@SargentoDuke 4 күн бұрын

@@fenriswolfretro6729 with more ram you can use HD TEXTURES on HalfLife2 at 720p ok the original Xbox... Or increase the VIEW DISTANCE on games like Morrowind, making the xbox looks like a 360 in graphics.

@weinerschnitzel7 4 күн бұрын

There is no point. We already have a hard disk and have been using it for ROM paging for years.

@juanmillas665 4 күн бұрын

i want Mame on OG xbox for 3d games like Street fighter EX And more acurate speed emulation on Neo Geo

@qsxmirage7274 3 күн бұрын

Real ram chips will always be faster than virtual memory management @@weinerschnitzel7

@KennyPham 5 күн бұрын

This and the pentium 3 upgrade are crazy advances for the xbox modding scene.

@Ichijoe2112 5 күн бұрын

And, almost as old now too.

@ianray9137 4 күн бұрын

Could you imagine the possibilities with a 1.4ghz processor upgrade and 256mb of ram on an original xbox? Holy smokes! I bet if there was a proper bios for something like that, it would be able to do alot more.

@ETERNAL_MODS 3 күн бұрын

Exactly because the stock cpu is 700mhz with 128mb cache and the tualatin 1.1 to 1.4 are 512k cache and faster speed. A faster ram like that could help emulators for shure :p

5 күн бұрын

I legit misheard "Prehistoricman" to "PrehistoricNAND"

@ChrisEbz 4 күн бұрын

I thought it was prehistoricman until I read this 😂

@0JayDoubleU 4 күн бұрын

😂😂😂 i like "Nand" a lot more

@LenoxFilms 4 күн бұрын

PrehistoricRAM

@trogdo0r179 5 күн бұрын

As you were bending the pins, I was like oh this is not good.

@brandogg 5 күн бұрын

Maybe if this mod came out 20 years ago it would have some real potential, at least for making a better homebrew/media center Xbox, but can't imagine any developers doing anything with this in 2024.

@Ichijoe2112 5 күн бұрын

It did, right along with the 1.3Ghz PIII mod. The difference was you either scraped the Chips of a doner board, or you bought a batch of 'em to do it. Problem is after Twenty Years of NON PRODUCTION, supply finally went the way of the Dodo as they say. This update (To that Mod), address that last issue. As to what you'd use it for? That would likely. Be one of two things Sega Chihiro (i.e. Virtual Cop), or a full XBOX SDK environment. Again. Same today, as it was Twenty years ago.

@Puretea4711 5 күн бұрын

true... the box is dead af.... also the mod szene for the og box

@Wobble2007 5 күн бұрын

You don't like the idea of using the Xbox as a classic Win98 & DOS PC?, I do, got to say, being able to just plug in an Xbox to my VGA monitor or CRT TV and firing up my favourite late 90s PC games sounds incredible, setting up a Win98 PC can be a little tedious, both from a hardware and software point of view, the OGXBOX literally has everything under the hood for complete 80s through to 2003 PC support, imagine not having to mess with drivers and settings, and turning retro PC gaming into a plug & play console experience, yes please on that for me, even Amiga OS could be run complete with MIDI and soundbanks audio compatibility.

@afewspokesloose2699 5 күн бұрын

@@Wobble2007 That sounds interesting. Has there been developments ademend stuff like Dosbox to utilise the memory?

@marcelosoares7148 5 күн бұрын

@@Wobble2007Can you do a dual boot setup with that? Like switching freely between the Xbox retail mode and the "PC mode".

@m3rkinfiniteofwgkta 5 күн бұрын

I like the videos, but every time I look into doing any mod myself the parts aren't being sold anymore.

@tigheklory 5 күн бұрын

Awesome video Tito! New out a 1.2 Ghz CPU upgrade in it too!

@David-gr8rh 5 күн бұрын

Don't you mean 1.4ghz

@SargentoDuke 4 күн бұрын

@@David-gr8rh 1.233 pentium 3 or 1.3ghz Celeron tualatins are way cheaper than the 1.4-1.5ghz ones.

@SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim 4 күн бұрын

This would of been a cool *256K subscribers special* if you had waited just a day or two ❤

@F1dude. 5 күн бұрын

Damn. I really want an og xbox. Maybe sometime in the future

@FoxUnitNell 5 күн бұрын

Their clear green xboxes were very cool, really the most appealing console at launch considering it was playing pc games that needed systems that cost three times as much as an xbox.

@0JayDoubleU 5 күн бұрын

Ive been seeing the prices slowly rising these past couple years. Id say the sooner the better

@garystinten9339 4 күн бұрын

@@0JayDoubleUAgreed.. even a basic model would be ideal..

@0JayDoubleU 4 күн бұрын

@@garystinten9339 absolutely. Especially since they have a fairly easy maintainance and easy to mod if u wish

@kenabi 4 күн бұрын

i've got 3 of them i want to do all these mods to, but they keep adding to the list. the fiends. making them obsolete before i can even get them.

@michelvanbriemen3459 3 күн бұрын

I like that the Xbox is becoming the Amiga of consoles. Neverending performance upgrades that don't have an immediate application, CPU upgrades / accelerators, memory expansions that weren't possible when the machine was new, it's fantastic.

@DaiAtlus79 5 күн бұрын

i would love to see someone like Modern Vintage Gamer chime in on things dealing with this ram, as he wrote the N64 emulator and some others on the Xbox, and the ram could be put to better use as shared VRAM with a rewritten BIOS and Kernel ie not just replacing a dashboard, but rewriting the implementation of binary executables like heavier emulators and DosBox or other ways to run things on it, like say a VM environment to let one boot OLDER operating systems like Windows 98 so one could run older PC games with the addition of a Keyboard and Mouse. Linux would be easy, as one could simply port a low-footprint distro like a 32 bit Puppy Linux version but built with modern 32 bit packages from Debian, for example. You could make it into a server for things like Insignia, with the extra ram being there to host other players on private games. Im suspecting with how the performance with the 8k video that cut to 1/4 ie 1080p one could possibly get the hardware to run that level of video using the extra memory as Vram. As well, Texture upgrade packs and upscaled ports could also be a thing, BUT pair this upgrade with a better CPU like the upgrades that can be done now to double that CPU speed and you could really have something there!!!

@Moved2Rumble 4 күн бұрын

You can already boot Windows 98 on the Original XBOX, naturally the additional memory would help, especially when running other applications.

@123cooldude500 3 күн бұрын

Fun fact: There's a certain model of PlayStation 1 (SCPH-5000) that you can upgrade to 8MB of RAM for better homebrew compatibility.

@Auugh69 5 күн бұрын

i enjoy your videos man

@dakotart1984 4 күн бұрын

Using a modified xblast chip would allow you to test each memory module one at a time installing it. Refer to Modzville's xblast videos. Popping all 4 chips off and roux chambeau'ing the install of 8 and assuming you'd get them right on the first shot is ambitious. What should be done is remove each stock chip one at a time testing functionality of each in xblast. Replacing them in order, then proceeding to the empty slots. Another thing not covered was emulation and 3rd party software. This is known to have significant performance leaps with a 128mb console. Its also worth noting that module stacking has existed.

@prototype_pandad6536 5 күн бұрын

well i dont think ive clicked on a video so fast. I freaking love this channel

@alanbenson1505 4 күн бұрын

Thank you for this video. I am going to dust off my Crystal Xbox and do this at some point. At around the 9:00 mark. If you prep the motherboard pads with a thin coat of solder before tacking the chip, the chip installation will go easier. I would have prepped the pads, added more flux, then tacked a few pins as you did. I would hot air this into place only because I have a board pre-heater. I get why you did it how you did. I'd have drag-soldered it too without a board heater , just with the pad prep steps I mentioned earlier. Great job all round. Subbed! For context, micro-soldering has been my job since 1989. PS. My Crystal Xbox is my Guinea pig machine. Anything that proves good on that makes it's way into my green machine..

@x66Hawk66x 5 күн бұрын

This is pretty cool, one thing is for worth thinking about, it could open up allot of possibility's for the home brew community with PC ports ETC. I will probably stick with my 128mb build for the foreseeable future, but I will be keeping a close eye on this project. I know JCRocky5 has been moving in this direction with his softmod, I think he has even considered 512mb support. It's crazy that even after this console has past the 2 decade mark, it still has such an active community.

@TheMavastone 5 күн бұрын

Thanks for this information:)

@GameSack 4 күн бұрын

One game I know of that runs into RAM limitations is Out Run 2... the first one, not Coast 2 Coast. There's a certain hill in one stage that can get a little juddery when you go over it and it lasts maybe a second. At least I'm assuming it's main RAM since it was originally made for the Xbox arcade hardware... not sure if there were any GPU or VRAM differences in that. Of course the game would likely have to be hacked to take advantage of any extra memory. BTW was the Xbox outputting at 8K in your video? Or was it just playing an 8K file downscaled internally to 480p or whatever?

@alexgonzales89 4 күн бұрын

This is what the scene is all about doing mods with less the stellar results to hopefully one day be stellar results lmao

@LDCoronel1 5 күн бұрын

In fact the interposer pins should be shorter than the original 2001 ram chips. That allows to solder the pins without the need to bend them too much or the interposer could be designed with the pins on the pcb and that could help to solder on a 90° inclination

@Alex13mod 4 күн бұрын

another great video brother!

@icedlottie Күн бұрын

always love to see your vids on new life being brought to the xbox... ive been a fiend for the xbox since 2002 and still play on my childhood 1.0 model regularly! ive even opened it up a few times to fix the dvd drive and replace that pesky clock cap...... keep up the good work!!!

@AcuardThe3rd 5 күн бұрын

Wouldn't this be a good alternative to do the 128 MB RAM upgrades for Xboxes that are 1.6 motherboards? Since they only have four slots because this would work better versus trying to double stack RAM?

@JoshLineberry 5 күн бұрын

If this would alow us to do 128mb on 1.6s with 4 regular chips that would be amazing!

@hongosorongo 5 күн бұрын

Amazing video as always! Along with the ModXO modchip this is probably the best modded XBox on earth. The only thing missing would be the replacement of the processor for the 1GHz that Retro Renegade Repairs made. Great content Tito!

@ffviifakeremake9997 5 күн бұрын

All we have to do now is put a PCI slot in and replace the Processor and we have the most powerful Xbox ever modded 🤣

@nekomasteryoutube3232 5 күн бұрын

@@ffviifakeremake9997 imagine if we could tap into the motherboards chipset to add another IDE channel so that the DVD drive and Hard Disk can be ont heir own IDE controllers (and allow SSD upgrades to run at full speed while the DVD drive is being accessed) Also PCI would be interesting but I doubt that could be done like my idea for another IDE Controler

@hongosorongo 5 күн бұрын

@@nekomasteryoutube3232 You never know man... Most of these mods were just a dream at some point and look how far the modding scene has gone. Maybe it's a matter of time? *crossing fingers*

@Urist_Mythrilforged 5 күн бұрын

Throw in an HDMI mod and it gets better.

@talibong9518 5 күн бұрын

Or make a custom mobo with a SATA controller so we can use XB1 BluRay drives

@juninhosa4260 4 күн бұрын

Great idea! Keep going !!

@mattliston1215 5 күн бұрын

this opens the door up to kickass Morrowind modding. Between cpu upgrades, the ability to overclock the front bus (which got several of my OG's to over 800mhz), and the large amount of ram, homebrew just got a kick in the ass to pave the way to more fun weekends!!

@exnihilo1910 5 күн бұрын

Man, I will never get tired of the console animations in your videos. As always the rest of the video is great but the animations... Wow!

@Sun-ut9gr 4 күн бұрын

Been thinking about this a bit lol. Using flat flex like that is not ideal. I'd suggest castellated terminations for the next interposer revision. The connections would be more secure and the extra real estate can be used to address some of the issues regarding the RAM timings!

@dmxdxl 4 күн бұрын

Damn, I watched this video and saw your sub count is at 255K, woulda been truly insane if it was magically at 256K for this video, like poetic almost haha, oh well!!...

@UserX-02 5 күн бұрын

What could an Xbox do with such memory

@SILVRXIII 5 күн бұрын

Finish the video

@R3TR0--93 5 күн бұрын

my taxes?

@thecircuitbox 5 күн бұрын

Nothing, literally.

@saddlesore_adventures 5 күн бұрын

Nothing useful. Each home-brew app, each game must be modified to utilize additional RAM. As there are no devs working on software patches and the mod itself is not trivial, it will never gain meaningful user-base. One day you may see some random game patched, or some app with 256mb support released, but that's it.

@pavma7 5 күн бұрын

Run StarCraft Ghost

@Innumerical_ 5 күн бұрын

a 3D printed template of some sort for bending the pins would be cool. Create mounting holes on the PCB that lock in to pins on the template. The template would have beveled edges to press the "legs" onto with a length of firm plastic.

@emagid3599 3 күн бұрын

Great watch as always. Hope you will consider doing a video on the new Benn Venn GGHD IPS screen. I would like to see your perspective on this new version compared to the older GG IPS screen from a few years back.

@gabrielbraga7670 4 күн бұрын

This mod could really help emulators specially N64, if i remember correctly there is a memory problem when cartridge games are to big for 64mb so the emulator store some files in the HDD slowering the overal performance.

@dinosqautch6941 5 күн бұрын

I’d never try this mod. But I love stuff like this great video man!

@mathieuberthalay21 4 күн бұрын

Thank you for your video 🤩

@ffviifakeremake9997 5 күн бұрын

This is so interesting, your last video on the Raspberry Pi Pico blow my mind. Which Raspberry Pi Pico should I pick up to mod the original Xbox? I've seen one called the Raspberry Pi Pico W and I'd like to see more Raspberry Pi modding in the future 👍

@itchyisvegeta 4 күн бұрын

Wow, this is an amazing mod. Can't wait to see what else comes of it.

@rv_jumpshotz1139 4 күн бұрын

I’m so happy to see the scene still thriving! Long live the greatest modded console

@vas729 2 күн бұрын

Tito is the Mr. Rogers of the modding scene and I am here for it!

@DannyTan6675 4 күн бұрын

Having two games run at the same time would be useful for a quick resume fucntion, while the suspended game can be partially unloaded to allow for the main game to take up more resources, having a quick resume function would allow you to swap between games quickly. Not very useful in practice, but a neat function all the same.

@TheCod3r 4 күн бұрын

Dude, you don't need Kapton tape or foil to protect components around the RAM. I dont get where this misconception came from, but the small resistors, capacitors, diodes, etc. are definitely not going to get damaged with heat. If anything, the RAM is the sensitive component. Simply tin the RAM pins with leaded or low melt solder and reduce the amount of heat needed to remove them. If anything, all you're doing when using Kapton tape, apart from wasting money, is risking the tape sliding around when the flux flows underneath it and dragging all those very small components with it.

@Doyle69 5 күн бұрын

Great video once again. Just a tip when using the hot air gun, the nozzle you had on, although it worked, it can be a pain as the hot air is narrowed down to a small spot, for something like the RAM chips, its actually much better to have no nozzle at all or a large one, that way you get more surface coverage and will lift in one with less chance of pulling/tearing off a trace.

@user-yk1cw8im4h 5 күн бұрын

Might feel like god to be an expert at hot air nozzles and nick-picking others with your special knowledge.

@Doyle69 4 күн бұрын

@@user-yk1cw8im4h

@stevenbryant1011 4 күн бұрын

@@user-yk1cw8im4hstop being rude, big nozzle = wider area, it's like a hose. It doesn't take a gods knowledge to know that, just simple physics

@mikem1323 4 күн бұрын

Many years ago, I bought 4 extra RAM chips for the Xbox. After the struggle to put them in, and it makes sense, there was no benefit from what I saw. The software I ran had all been designed for 64megs and had no idea the other memory was there. Maybe some emulators will be written to use it, but most of the older systems already fit into the 64 megs already installed. Would be nice to be able to make a RAM disk as a cache but that seems like a lot of work for very little return.

@hiRyan329329 4 күн бұрын

I remember people doing this a few years back by stacking the original ram modules on top of each other, so even this is a far easier install comparatively. Would love to see where this project ends up once a bios is built to really utilize it as well as some game mods to hopefully make use of it

@Sun-ut9gr 5 күн бұрын

Might want to stake those modules down with some silastic/RTV or even some hot glue after verifying they work. As far as the stability issues, it could also be the mapping of the traces on the interposer itself. More testing would be needed to figure it out. This is an awesome project though. Amazing work!

@realdragonrude 4 күн бұрын

It's always cool to see people finding something new with og xbox when you think everythings been done Seamus Blackley is smiling right now

@ZeroX252 4 күн бұрын

It seems like a 3d-printed jig for bending the interposers gently and evenly could also prevent the issue. I do wonder if just making the interposer a flex PCB instead of a solid PCB wouldn't also work though.

@TheLegendryZelda 4 күн бұрын

Not being individual pins I think it helps a whole lot better to bend them all at once and it does looks more modern

@garystinten9339 4 күн бұрын

Hoping this sparks some interest back into the modding scene to have someone patch software to add an option to tweak variable ram usage so the system itself can determine (equivalent of adjustable bar like more modern pc systems today) the ideal amount of ram as well as manual slider option for tweakers to get the ultimate setup.

@Para-KGB 5 күн бұрын

For watching movies on a modded xbox this would actually be really helpful. I can also see this adapted for games with mod patches. though movies is more likely where this comes in handy.

@rayndaba3166 5 күн бұрын

Your music selection 🤤🤤 its proper

@jart122 4 күн бұрын

You should get a tip that looks like an exacto knife for your soldering iron. Is easier to solder on the type of soldering that you are doing.

@dekerus3 5 күн бұрын

Dude, you have the best intro music on KZfaq. Just my opinion. ❤

@Thewickedjon 5 күн бұрын

tito uploaded a new video? 0k, time for my weekly therapeutic session.

@MrGarryGrey 4 күн бұрын

I've seen similar mod for Switch. Soldering new NAND and RAM chips, which actually affects game performance and useful in other OS's and emulators it can run. Insanely difficult as chips are way smaller, but super impressive.

@ScientificZoom 2 күн бұрын

Ok, taking old bios into modern one would be interesting 🎉, though I very much appreciated the efforts

@kir0nz 4 күн бұрын

I started a game where every time I hear solder or soldering pronounced with 2 D's instead of an L and D. I am now perpetually drunk.

@knuckles31312 5 күн бұрын

Wow I get to watch this one within an hour of posting!! Hellyeah!

@bnbnism 5 күн бұрын

Itd be interesting to see how this could affect a game like Morrowind which is notorious for its memory issue on the original Xbox which caused them to have to restart the system between load screens to fix the issue.

@jinxterx Күн бұрын

Nice! What temperature was your heatgun at when desoldering the RAM chips?

@Mobik_ 5 күн бұрын

Now THAT is a Expansion Pak

@kevrosbane 3 күн бұрын

this isn't the first 256 mod u could place 16 chips on top of each other, but i am glad to see this as its a more fordable and less hassle way to do upgrades these days.

@sethinneon 4 күн бұрын

Watching someone with this level of soldering skill is mesmerizing

@snoochpounder 4 күн бұрын

That’s what makes a true master. Not being afraid to ask for help albeit being an expert oneself.

@danielrhodes7594 5 күн бұрын

Great video. I hope that once the bios can be updated it will have a positive effect on the speed, graphics, etc. So does this same concept apply to the Nintendo 64? I noticed that the motherboard has two 2mb chips, but the expansion pak has a single 4mb chip that could possibly used to replace the 2mb chips. With three expansion paks you could take two chips out to put on the N64 motherboard. With a N64 with 8mb instead of 4mb and then add and expansion pak it would have a total of 12mb. Would that improve anything or would bios have to be hacked, updated, etc?

@ceneblock 3 күн бұрын

Yeah, using it for Linux\FreeBSD is the only thing that I could think of. Maybe in the future, some homebrew can take advantage of it. There could be some game speed up by prefetching from the disk drive and putting it in RAM, but that'd be a lot of work to modify the kernel to take proper advantage of what is probably already optimized.

@WiKiTWoNKa 5 күн бұрын

So did you only put four new RAM chips on the top side and not on the bottom side I really couldn't tell. Is there more slots open on the bottom side?

@rtbear674 Күн бұрын

I upgraded the hardware so it uses nvidia rtx 4080, 64gb ram, nvme ssd, now it run windows too, then can play xbox games.

@Floydzabarber 5 күн бұрын

I wonder if this would help in booting the other Sega Chihiro games on the original Xbox. I would like to give it a try. Thanks for the video and thanks to prehistoricman for designer the interposer.

@mrwang420 3 күн бұрын

Lol playing 4K video at 1 fps is hilarious. It's not even that it does it horribly. It's just cool that it can do it at all.

@ThatOldSchoolMagic 4 күн бұрын

In the Game JSRF. Try out the Level 99th street. That is one of the bigger stages early on with a lot of open space and many NPCs. If there are no issues there than its good.

@technocolossus7763 5 күн бұрын

Impractical, but why am I tempted to do it all the same? Who can I tell to shut up and take my money?

@Wally17. 4 күн бұрын

Yeah, me too.

@havoken86 5 күн бұрын

Technically the 32 bit bus of the x86 architecture allows for 3.5gb of ram, on some older boards it maxes out at 2gb (I don't know exactly how much Xbox classic has a limit), so I wouldn't be surprised when this tops the amount of ram of the Xbox 360.

@another3997 4 күн бұрын

The 32 bit bus's limit is technically 4GB. But the theoretical limits of a 32 bit bus are irrelevant, because no software has been developed to take advantage of it, and the Xbox hardware/firmware isn't set up to recognise it. So unless you're running a custom bios and a suitable replacement OS, and not Xbox games, it would be useless. Buy a cheap, used PC... much easier, more flexible and easier to upgrade.

@Ronin7477 2 күн бұрын

Would be interesting to see this in conjunction with a CPU mod, and what could be done with that combo.

@gummy1204 2 күн бұрын

Instead of rigid flex, you may be able to use castellated edges as the connection. This would completely solve the bend problem and make the mfr process cheaper.

@aemerox5773 Күн бұрын

This mod could be possible inspiration for the internal 4gb for the Xbox 360. Maybe someday we can see a 500gb or 2tb internal storage mod.

@McTwistedTwisties 4 күн бұрын

I'm always blown away by the performance of HL2 on the og xbox when people do the 128mb upgrade, so I would have loved to see a clip of HL2 on Xbox with 256mb of ram.

@edherdman9973 3 күн бұрын

Where's a video of this? I've seen the CPU upgrade running HL2, not 128MB.

@DavitTheCore 5 күн бұрын

Damn Half Life 2 might have benefitted from more RAM. Well, a Pentium 3 would be the actual upgrade that would make Half Life 2 work very well.

@SargentoDuke 4 күн бұрын

@@DavitTheCore you can overclock every original Xbox to 900mhz fsb 133 to 166 the max of the XBOX Nforce2 chip, and HalfLife2 runs flawless even in 720p with 128mb ram... But with 256mb you can USE HD TEXTURES on HalfLife2 like the PC... the only that the XBOX port lacks, it uses SD textures because of the low ram.

@DavitTheCore 4 күн бұрын

@@SargentoDuke I guess that could very well work! I'm not sure the end result would be as good as a Pentium 3 modded Xbox (just like shown by modern vintage gamer).

@SargentoDuke 3 күн бұрын

@@DavitTheCore Xbox had a way better Motherboard than a pentiumIII and way better optimized software

@wolffangalchemist 4 күн бұрын

Already have done the 128mb mod on my xbox, so I will need to get another one at some point to do the 256mb to, also I may as well try my hand at a cpu upgrade with it as well.

@cheddercheese4910 5 күн бұрын

Awesome job guy's. I do have a PSP Vita with some broken components and would love to see a PSP Vita consoleizer.

@Zark-Muckerberg 4 күн бұрын

I doubt that's going to happen because the PSTV exists (It's a home console version of the Vita.)

@cheddercheese4910 4 күн бұрын

@@Zark-Muckerberg yeah but there's a lot of broken PSVita out there that just needs some love to make em work.

@RavenShinyThings 4 күн бұрын

Getting a memory upgrade on the Xbox 360 that is utilised would be an amazing mod along side harddrive installed games.

@JayBlackheart 4 күн бұрын

I wonder would it help more with some of the emulators like the Sega Saturn and CPS3?

@claudiurus7307 4 күн бұрын

Nice video. I don’t understand from where you get the extra address line to duble the 128MB?

@alejandromedrano6366 4 күн бұрын

So, adding more ram to the Xbox can be like those "who can build the smallest portable Wii" mods? Like just because you can do it

@Justinpitchford 5 күн бұрын

I would love it if u guys had complete kits of tools for modding work

@Aeduo 4 күн бұрын

I guess I could see it maybe being useful for disk caching and stuff that could maybe help loading times in some games that don't do their own resource management well enough. Otherwise I could see it being useful for homebrew developers to have a bunch of extra debugging tools and stuff in memory during development, but it would imply they're doing kinda AAA game dev.