Frontier, frontier movie, plus, zero, macross novelisations, VERY drunk delta, SDF, do you remember love, southern cross, macross 2, genesis climber. Sentinels then dynamite 7 (on fast forward/mute). I don’t think I missed any.

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That's exactly why I didn't like it initially because going full super robot on Macross was too strong a departure for me. But I went back to it and learned to appreciate it.

@@alekesam Yeah, 7 is an acquired taste. I love it now, but the first time I watched it I just didn't "get" it. These days I rock out to Firebomber on the regular.

Fully Agree, you know when Delta hasn't quite got there when your more excited to see the Labyrinth of Time over the Delta movie itself.

Delta was a reverse F. F had big budget, D had a small one. F had a poor opening act, D's opening was the strongest in the series. F picked up nicely in the middle act, D floundered and ran in circles. F was a blockbuster production, D was whimsical but thematic. Delta is deeply flawed, but i appreciate that it tried to something different and imo sort of succeeded

@@buglepong true, killing off Freya was bold and sets up a possible partner for Ranka in the form of Hayate. Other than that, and the possible Megaroad tease, it was pretty forgettable (music, characters, mecha). I remember most of Macross F.

Im convinced Freya is Kawamori looking back on Macross. Delta released just after Macross 30th anniversary, Freya lives to 30. She fulfils her destiny, like kawamori did with macross.

@@buglepong Man I hope so. Kawamori got screwed when it came to mecha design royalties from harmony gold for that legalized pirated product in the form of Robotech. (His words).

Hahah totally, it's almost better than the original SDF Macross... just a tad below it.

Same

It's GOAT in my opinion. Both series and movies has best plot.

How is this possible. Its the worst entry of the franchise.

My favorite will always be Macross Plus. Plus had the greatest story line and everything meshes very well with the original.. I would have enjoyed frontier a bit more if the main protagonist was a bit more likeable and they get rid of the whole psychic "one mind" sharing insects. Honestly fighting rogue zentraedi was never an issue with me. My opinion, the classification of best to worst Macross series would be: Macross Plus (Isamu is just too cool with his jet and all, with great story), Original Macross (I could watch DYRL over and over, love how Minmei was portrayed in there, she was a bit spoiled, but super loveable). After that is really a toss between Macross7 and Frontier (I would give 7 the edge just because it has Max and Mira in it?) Falling behind would be Macross 0 (the floating stones and psychic powered aliens just did not mesh with me) and finally Macross Delta (which is by far the worst Macross of all time, flying idols on the wings of fighter jets while they combat? seriously???). I did not include Macross 2, because it is not truly a macross series.

They also learned valuable lessons from 7 because instead of beating you over the head by repeating the same song chorus 3-4 times in every episode the frontier OST is one of my favourite soundtracks ever not just anime. Everything from upbeat to office pomp to even aimo getting 2-3 remixes. And while I live macross plus the songs are far more backing tracks than the belters in frontier.

@@IRMentat I think 7's music likely suffered as much from the advertisers "double the episode count" edict as the rest of the show, and as a result they had to space out the songs. It doesn't help that Planet Dance is far from fire Bomber's best song. And 100% agreed on Frontier's soundtrack overall. It still gets a lot of spins here, especially now that all the Macross music is on Spotify.

Agreed. A person absolutely *can* watch Frontier without having seen DYRL, but they *shouldn't*. Understanding the context of Oboete Imasuka adds so much to the scene.

#teamsheryl shes an interesting mix of both minmay and misa

It's rife with references to previous series but still manages to be a stand alone anime that anybody can enjoy... that's why I think it's become a fan favorite even surpassing the original SDF Macross.

If you liked the ending of the tv series I don’t recommend the movies(I have the movies above the series) but the movies end in a really depressing note

@@xcutioner5537 No worries, they gave an epilogue that gave it the happy ending...

Never even grew up together, she delivered someone else’s lunch and saw him flying with the power-armour. Ranka was just being actively pushed towards alto by almost everyone around her while sheryl had a far more natural relationship growth plus a similar experience of fame. Alas the ranka fans were so pained over her inevitable rejection that delta was sunk to have an annoying brat and his of-comparable-age rune-girl pushed HARD such that the overall story suffered because of it (will admit that the song axia gets me real good), upside mirage never got past the puppy love state so actual best girl gets a chance with someone not mentally deficient. Downside,most of the other cast were never around long enough to develop more than a mild attachment to making a W with their fingers while being a bit sassy.

@@IRMentat They spent time together after Ozma brought her aboard The Frontier and they knew each other enough. When she kissed him, he didn't exactly fight it off. As for the rest of your reply, so that's why "Delta" wasn't so great.

You might be on to something there. If Frontier had a proper series length, like SDF Macross and 7 had, they could have explored Galaxy more thoroughly and played more with the alienness of the Vajra. But only limited to a half-length season like it was makes it hard.

Frontier set a good tone, they could have done it better but it was understandably light in it's tone. Delta "should" have stepped it up an followed up with a maturation tone. The original Macross was an incredible series regarding maturation, from youthful bliss to hard realities an choices as an adult. Along with all growing pains that come with it. Finding your way in the dark, making friends, dealing with new emotions from adolescence to becoming an adult, experiencing gut wrenching hardship an deep emotional situations (war/death/lost love/family etc) while overcoming adversity while fighting to survive against insurmountable odds.

Delta spat in the face of the mech aspect by demoting the planes to floating stages for idols

you should

Glad you like it, and yes, definitely get into Macross, you're missing out on one of the best franchises of the mecha genre.

Maybe we’ll see it on streaming sites once the Blu-Rays come out next year.

My favourite mecha in the entire franchise. It deserves its name.

Why the Hell would it? Unlike Macross, and Southern Cross. Genesis Climber Mospeeda was not a Studio Nur production, and has nothing to do with the Macross Universe. That the Vajra resemble the Invid is just far enough over the horizon, to be coincidence, than say homage. If you want a better example of where your going with that, give Mac. II (Lovers Again), a watch. At least calling the Mardook the shows (Robo) Masters is made much plainer, than this.

She’s confirmed to wake up alto also returns there’s an official illustration on one of the books of Sheryl illustrations

I'll have to disagree on that. The Quarter is a cool *robot*, but it is the worst "transforming warship" out of all the "Macross" designs. The SDF-1 and the New Macross Class both looked like proper, solid warships with no obvious hints as to how they would transform (or even *that* they would transform, since they kept that out of the respective opening animations for both SDF Macross and Macross 7.) The New Macross Class was especially good since the shape was effectively just a bigger Uraga-class space carrier, and those *didn't* transform. In each show, going into them blind would make the transformation sequences a *massive* surprise. The Battle Frontier is a refinement of the New Macross class from Macross 7, so if you'd seen one you knew it would transform, but then they changed things up with the quad muzzles for the main gun being fake and the real gun being something that swung down from behind them, and it didn't transform until the very end either. Macross Quarter? Was entirely obvious that "this is an only slightly folded up robot that gains no advantage from pretending to be a ship. There's no solidity in the ship design, the arms and legs don't connect to each other at all and it's all still just a core with four limbs sticking out, just folded up. There's no sense of "this is a contiguous surface " anywhere like there was with the New Macross class' giant flight deck. It looks really cool when its doing flips and capoeira kicks and surfing on a piece of wreckage or sniping from behind an asteroid and is easily the most expressive *robot* out of the entire lineup, but it is a sucky *ship*. And then Macross Elysion, finally, is *presented* to us in robot form, and while it was obvious that it would transform into a ship at *some* point, the end result of the transformation was a lot more solid-looking that most of us watching had thought it would be until we saw the model kit (which kind of spoiled it) - not quite as monolithic as the SDF-1 or the New Macross class, but definitely way more solid than the Quarter, with big long flight decks that run nearly the length of the ship on either side of the center chunk where the bridge is, and the elbows and legs lock together to form those flight decks. I don't see the robot when I look at the Elysion in ship form, unless I look for it knowing that there *is* a robot in there. With the Quarter, the robot was unbearably obvious when we first saw the ship form. Hence why the quarter is Worst Macross, and Worst Variable Anything. It's the coolest *Destroid* ever built tho.

#TeamSheryl forever!

#TeamSheryl for life!!!!!

Thanks Captain Obvious!

No dub. All the songs are in Japanese and play an integral part of the story. Can't imagine any other actresses in those roles...

Skip the Music brother, but I would love a dub of the dialog just the same.

Delta... Mirage got done dirty. Best girl.

Probably more to do with IRW consequences of the legal disputes between BigWest, and Tatsunoko having "sold" the rights (Which were never grated to them), to this outfit called Harmony Gold. So that's why the TV exists, but isn't the 'canon'.

As I understand it, it's not just humans in the fleet, there's Zentran and Meltrans as well. And depending on whether you go by DYRL or the original TV series, the latter established that there were pocket survivors around the world.

They pulled a trick out of the Zentraedi playbook, and possibly straight out of their factories even, and basically cloned themselves a new population and then sent them off on colony ships, with a fleet every year until 2030. They stopped the cloning after that because of problems with epidemics among the clone population. The whole thing IIRC comes up in one of the games - the protagonist of the VF-X and VF-X2 games is Aegis Focker, who is IIRC a clone of Roy Focker, and one of the last batch made. Or something like that. Also, Max and Milia were not the only people who went for a large family. One of the bridge bunnies from the original series canonically has twelve kids, and was still living on the moon as of the last update of her status (2059).

Well just remember have way superior technology compared to plus(you can see they even added anti-Gforce cages due to Guld's death)...

@@Tamachii12 well yeah, but that still makes the animation feel off at times, in-lore technology be damned. =)

It was a high bar For the follow up Delta. Frontier was Beautiful. My all time fav is actually Macross Zero.

I really liked how Delta tried to do something conceptually different... but it didn't quite land. And well, I don't want to spoil anything but the new Delta movie does redeem a couple of things about it haha.

Delta is better on a second viewing and it's probably best viewed after watching Macross 7 rather than Frontier. Delta was very much hampered by first impressions and by being compared to the high budget no-holds-barred extravaganza that was frontier. It also stuffed from a leak of funding which resulted in a rather clipped and abrupt pace. Meanwhile, the whole core concept of the show at first seems kind of alien and weird, until you watch Macross 7... Them or just seems like a natural extension of the series. There's even references in Macross 7 to Lady M, or at least to secret behind the scenes goings on that come back hard in Delta and it's second movie. The idea of a tactical sound unit is a direct evolution of Sound Force and the Jamming Birds, but with the benefit of the science and discoveries of frontier in the field of fold sensitivity. Even the multitude of other human-like aliens is a direct grab from the Macross 7 movies, specifically Dynamite, which introduced the Zolans Delta is best viewed as a continuation of 7, and sadly had the opposite problem in terms of length and pacing. 7 was too long, Delta too short. Zettai Live only cements this connection. I'm really bummed they didn't do more crossover content with fire bomber the way FB7 did. I would have loved to hear the girls of Delta belting out some hard core dad rock... And Basara turning up even for a cameo in zettai live would have exploded my brain. Imagine the final fight is going bad, even with Max helping then suddenly the communication channels glitch out you hear a crackling distorted cover say "You owe me one, old man." and the opening strains of Holy Lonely Light come though, just distorted and soft enough to make you unsure what you're hearing until the fire Valkyrie appears, shedding a fold booster right as the scream hits. Freya's rune lights up and she wakes from her hospital bed like Commander Kinryu did in 7, except instead of stealing a Valkyrie for a ring of half naked kamakaze karaoke she, you know, makes it to the stage. Ah well. Max coming out or wreck house just as the hook lands in Ikenai Borderline is almost as good

I just want to say that the writing sucked so bad on the last Star Wars trilogy that even John Williams couldn’t save it.

Personally I would love a Prequel Story about the Protoculture vs Supervision Army. If ya know.... You know....