Before watching the video, i also came to the conclusion that Madara, even if his motives were objectively for the greater good (a world without suffering) as soon as Hashirama appeared, he completely ignored his own plan and immediately started to be excited, agressive and passionate. The man was like Vegeta and even could i dare to say like the coyote and the road runner. His life only had purpose while the "game" lasted.

First off I want to say I really enjoyed the video! It's not often I see people point out that Madara was a hypocrite just that his method was bad. For me Madara's hypocrisy never bothered me because most of the Naruto villains have a blatant disregard for other people and are more concerned with their ideals. To Madara it's not really about saving anyone but proving that his idea of peace is right over Hashirama's. It's just another battle to him. Remember despite how much he dreamed of peace as a child once he was in power he did not go for the peaceful solution until he was completely defeated. Even after that he did nothing on his own to help develop Konoha except going to Iwa to subjugate them. He turns against Konoha after Hashirama listens to Tobirama, Konoha chooses Hashirama, and the Uchiha choose Konoha. He says it's because Konoha will betray the Uchiha one day but he was going to trample them with the rest of Konoha in his attacks and did not care one bit when his and Obito's actions eventually contribute to the Uchiha massacre. His actions and attitude make it clear what the real motivation was: losing/being picked over. Even at the end we learn that Madara knew the tree was going to siphon off everyone's chakra and give it to a single person. His goal the entire time was to make himself more powerful. Peace is just a convienant justification. "It's alright for me to steal everyone's life force cause I'll give them peace in exchange." For me the only question is how much does Madara believe his own bs. The Naruto villains especially the Uchiha ones do not want to admit their own selfish motivations. Madara wants power, Obito wants self delusion, Sasuke's motivation is self harm/isolation, and Pain's is revenge and control. They just want to seem justified and righteous. That's why they can all talk so much about how the world sucks and the system is broken while reveling in the worst parts of it and never trying actions like reaching out to the people they say they want to save.

Great video and great topic for discussion 😊

Druze svaka ti cast, hteo sam da te piram jesili mozda studirao filozofiju? Vidi se da imas sistematski nacin razmisljanja. Ubedzen sam da ako povecavas frekvenciju tvojih videa imaces mnogo vise abonenata! (I think you told in a vid that you are from the Balkans :) )

Great video

I was hoping this was going to be a video topic!

the majority of the villain turning up to be peacemakers is a late serie retcon..in my other comments i talke about atmosphere but in terms of ideaologies early naruto was about social acceptance and sexual competition between teenagers..lee wanted to prove his '' ninja way '' by fighting strong opponent .. naruto was always jealous of sasuke popularity with girls so he wanted to outperform him..the 3rd hokage was sending kids to the die in the forest of chunin exam to prove they are worthy warriors..the jonins were asking for narutos death after he stole the shadow clone scroll..but the whole show became about friendship and peace ..because the editor made kishimoto force this japanese buddist idealogy of a perfect society by transcanding human desires so by the end everyone is fighting for peace and '' the sins of the past '' of '' the cycle of hatred '' which isnt realistic compared to the early story were fights were about ego and masculinity or poverity or survival ...plus it doesnt fits a fighting story were everything is solved with violence even by the '' good guy '' which the source of the hypocrisy of madara because of the contradiction between his ego and his ideals .. oh wait sorry kishimoto everybody deep down is a good guy apart from hidan and kakuzo the best characters in shippuden