I FINALLY Got STICK BURNER Flavor on my PELLET GRILL! Best of BOTH Worlds!

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Mad Backyard

Mad Backyard

Күн бұрын

Learn the simple hack I found to get real wood burning flavor on your pellet grill, just like you'd get from an offset or charcoal smoker!
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Learn a hack to get REAL wood smoke flavor on your pellet grill by making a simple miniature firebox using charcoal and wood chunks. This mimics the way wood is burned for smoke flavor in an offset smoker (also sometimes known as a stick burner) or in a charcoal smoker. By using this method, you take advantage of the smoke and gas compounds released at various temperatures when real wood logs burn to get authentic smoke flavor on your pellet grill. This hack works on ANY pellet grill for both hot and cold smoking, whether its a Pit Boss, Traeger, Camp Chef, or other brand. Because the pellet grill firebox sits ON TOP of the grates, it can be easily moved around and reloaded to accommodate your food and your cooking time as well!
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⏰⏰Chapters⏰⏰
0:00 Pellets vs. Wood
1:12 Conventional Smoker Box FAIL
2:01 How Wood Burns
3:06 The Challenge
3:19 The Smoker Box for our Firebox
3:51 Wood Chunks vs Chips
4:22 How to Get the BEST BBQ Smoke
5:17 How to Light the Firebox
7:58 Firebox Placement
8:26 Cooking with the Pellet Grill Firebox
9:11 Temperature Effects
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@madbackyard
@madbackyard 7 ай бұрын
These are unfortunately in and out of stock frequently. Here is an alternate product that looks like it will work just as well but I have not tried it personally. amzn.to/3QWX4DT. If anyone else has tried it, please comment on it below. Thanks!
@myytvideos7941
@myytvideos7941 4 күн бұрын
Thank you! This box is a game changer! I just started using it with my pellet grill and now I have REAL smoke flavor for the first time!
@Sebastopolmark
@Sebastopolmark 10 ай бұрын
WOW you nailed it. EVERYTHING you said made perfect sense and I appreciate the detail you went into using the charcoal briquets. Have to go and place my order! !! !!!
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for the kind words!
@waymor2460
@waymor2460 10 ай бұрын
I switched to a pellet smoker to avoid messing with charcoal and wood chunks. To increase smoke flavor I added a tube filled with pellets that lasts about 4 hours. I just recently switched to Bear Mountain bold bbq pellets and there is a dramatic increase in smoke flavor to the point I don’t need the smoke tube. Even with shorter cooks like spare ribs the smoke flavor was great.
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Bear Mountain pellets are great!
@kevinmach730
@kevinmach730 10 ай бұрын
This works to a degree, just not as much as I liked. I agree this device takes a little more fiddling than I like since I've been spoiled by pellet grill convenience, but I bet it would add more smoke favor than a smoke tube and/or some wood chunks. For what it's worth, I am also a fan of Bear Mountain.
@jsr-uz3oj
@jsr-uz3oj 10 ай бұрын
When I first used my pit boss vertical smoker, I used pit boss pellets and not enough smoke flavor and less smoke ring. Tried bear mountain and made a big difference. More smoke flavor and better smoke ring.
@RJ_400
@RJ_400 9 ай бұрын
Try switching the pellets in the smoke tube with wood chips. You get a lot more smoke flavor
@Jimmer-tr6bi
@Jimmer-tr6bi 3 ай бұрын
@@madbackyard mix wood chips with pellets in the smoke tube, that works well
@Chris_greene
@Chris_greene 3 ай бұрын
Your channel is literally now my absolute favorite!! Thank you!!!
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 3 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you so much! Make sure to also check out our website and newsletter- Madbackyard.com/subscribe
@Trumpetmaster77
@Trumpetmaster77 10 ай бұрын
Great tips! Excellent video!
@darrellobermann2315
@darrellobermann2315 10 ай бұрын
Ive been using the smoke tube exactly as you dscribed for 5 years. lately I have been looking for more andI belive that you have shone me the way. Good video THANK YOU
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@ey5644
@ey5644 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for taking the time and making this video. It was extremely informative and well made. Moreover, I’m going to be ordering the flip box and gloves from your links 😊.
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Wow, I really appreciate that! Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it!
@ryanbramich6951
@ryanbramich6951 10 ай бұрын
This is a great technique. Thanks for sharing!
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@nbarges
@nbarges 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing, will definitely give this a try.
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Awesome, thanks!
@dustind292
@dustind292 10 ай бұрын
Great job, brother. Just found your channel and look forward to checking out some of your older vids as well as new content, so keep em coming.
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@kentwestervelt9970
@kentwestervelt9970 9 ай бұрын
First trial run worked pretty well (Cameron box w charcoal and wood). Will try again. Great tip!
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 9 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it, thanks!!
@jclarke6073
@jclarke6073 2 ай бұрын
This was awesome!! Much appreciated!!
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Dontbeadumbass2024
@Dontbeadumbass2024 10 ай бұрын
Great video. I applaud your creative thinking!
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@cowslinger64
@cowslinger64 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for a great video. I love my pellet smoker, but do wish for more smoke flavor. I'm gonna try your method out, real soon!!!
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@supramental
@supramental Ай бұрын
You’re awesome man! I love you!
@Willplunk
@Willplunk 10 ай бұрын
Good video, I ordered 2 of them, Thanks.👍
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@MrPhoenix1800
@MrPhoenix1800 4 күн бұрын
I drilled a bunch of hole in my small smoke box made it better but seeing the Weber paraffin wax starter was a good idea to get it started. Lot of helpful tips on here thanks.
@reddog907
@reddog907 10 ай бұрын
Love it Thanks.
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@lalkurti
@lalkurti 6 ай бұрын
W hat a great video. I have tried this method in the past but putting chunks on bed if coal in a foil tray. Since i never covered the tray, the wood always caught fire increasing the temperature too high. Least to say, i stopped experimenting but will definitely try this method
@zeppelin51423
@zeppelin51423 9 ай бұрын
Great informative video!!
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Kevin!
@doplinger1
@doplinger1 10 ай бұрын
This is EXACTLY what I needed to know - thank you! I typically use a pellet tube with wood chips and some pellets, which works but I still don’t think I get as much smoke flavor as I would like!
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching and have a great weekend!
@mikepatten4512
@mikepatten4512 8 ай бұрын
Use two tubes
@doplinger1
@doplinger1 8 ай бұрын
@@mikepatten4512 - I’ve recently kinda started doing that. I’ve added one of those smoke boxes; I put a couple prices of lit charcoal with a few wood chunks on top of them, do it gives me a lot more smoke. Easy to add more when needed too!
@richandbrandy
@richandbrandy 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing this. Ive been using the Diamond King smoke box but it doesn't fit between bottom and top grate using Traeger 575 Pro with PMG Grates. I remove the bottom grate and move smoke box in loaf pan to far back corner away from pellet hopper and temp sensor. I finally get that Smoky flavor!
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 6 ай бұрын
That's great! Glad it was helpful!
@thisgrilllife7447
@thisgrilllife7447 4 ай бұрын
Great video!
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! 👍
@mikecompton6401
@mikecompton6401 9 ай бұрын
I have a vision ceramic grill and I use pellets for smoky flavor
@kentwestervelt9970
@kentwestervelt9970 10 ай бұрын
This is great!! I stupidly tried using chips in my pellet-very small but still jammed it. Charcoal and wood chunks will add a ton of flavor.
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@tlwayman
@tlwayman 9 ай бұрын
That idea crossed my mind as well. Although, I never ended up doing it.
@slick2872
@slick2872 10 ай бұрын
Great work! Subscription earned :)
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@ericede
@ericede 7 ай бұрын
I definitely don't like the idea of running a mini kamado smoker inside my pellet, but I definitely appreciate the solution. It shows you have a good brain for troubleshooting. I have a new Ironwood 650 and I've ordered some Lumberjack pellets (oak and pecan). I'm hoping that the "supersmoke" mode is sufficient, but if not, I'll definitely try this. I would add a water tray to help the smoke stick
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 7 ай бұрын
That's a great pellet grill! You can also use a pellet tube smoker if you don't want to mess with charcoal. We made a video about that too: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e854e8Z1x8_UiKs.html
@scottmiller2441
@scottmiller2441 2 ай бұрын
Have used wood chips in the smoker tube
@gofy8481
@gofy8481 10 ай бұрын
Woodwind by camp chef has this built in and it works. But if your having to tend the extra smoke every hour or so you might as well have an offset, or buy the lonestar pellet grill and it's fire and forget
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
It's a great feature on the Woodwind, and I'm looking forward to hopefully more brands adding a similar feature to new models. I would argue the smokebox is definitely easier than manage than an offset smoker though. The wood chunks are only for smoke flavor, not for temperature control, so there is way less to manage or tend relatively speaking. Thanks for watching!
@mikeensor788
@mikeensor788 7 ай бұрын
I would love to have a woodwind but they are 1200 plus, I already have a pit boss so if I can do something along these lines it is definitely more cost effective. (At least till I get the fever for a new smoker!)
@jorabie9777
@jorabie9777 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Explains it all, with clear, concise instructions and easy to understand. I’m guessing this will work on any pellet grill like my Traeger?
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! Yes it will. The nice thing about using the smoke box is it just sits at grate level so doesn’t matter what model of pellet grill you are using.
@jorabie9777
@jorabie9777 10 ай бұрын
@@madbackyard thanks. I ordered it all
@DirectusVeritas
@DirectusVeritas 10 ай бұрын
I think this was maybe made for people who are much less familiar with smoking on a pellet grill because I think it could have been cut down to maybe 2-3 minutes of relevant content. I typically create an aluminum packet of wood chips and place them over my flame cover but this seems interesting. I'm always down to try to add more smoke flavor. Thanks for sharing
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 9 ай бұрын
Funny, I tried that exact same method one time with the foil packet and wood chips you are describing! I was only able to get them to smoke if I opened the flame broiler and then laid the packet driectly on top. But then my temps were all over the place. I poked with quite a few air holes but the smoke was so gray and dirty because I could not get a high enough temperature or enough oxygen to the chips it just wasn't working for me. How have your results been doing it?
@ravenmoon1165
@ravenmoon1165 10 ай бұрын
Excellent tutorial. I have a traveler, and it gets descent smoke, but I want more. I saw those smoke tubes, but wasn’t impressed. This isn’t set and forget, but it’s not that labor intensive. I think I’ll try this, thanks.
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@russbus7723
@russbus7723 10 ай бұрын
I have a smoke daddy heavy d diffuser
@donnyayers1460
@donnyayers1460 10 ай бұрын
Great video. I was hoping there was something better than a smoke tube.
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Donny!
@markcobero943
@markcobero943 7 ай бұрын
Just wanted to say - I won a Brisket off at my office the other day against offset smoker users. They could not tell it was from a Pellet Grill. Thanks for introducing this method friend.
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 7 ай бұрын
Wow! I want to come work at your office, that’s awesome! Glad it helped you get the win! 🏆
@mefobills279
@mefobills279 4 ай бұрын
That's hilarious. Did you tell them it was a pellet grill cook?
@Dranomoly
@Dranomoly 10 ай бұрын
Very thoroughly explained. Have you heard of the smoke daddy heavy D?
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! Yes I have but have not used it myself. Have you? What’s been your experience?
@coreylawson332
@coreylawson332 10 ай бұрын
Love the heavy D diffuser, i recommend 10/10. I put one in each of my pellet grills, but e forced to have to cook at super low temps 150-225 to avoid the sticks igniting though.
@aspe434
@aspe434 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this demonstration. I wonder what's a good position for the smoke box on a rig that doesn't have a chimney but has exhaust holes in the back? Maybe in the front middle but still away from the temp sensor?
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 5 ай бұрын
Yes that sounds perfect!
@TMAquatics
@TMAquatics 9 ай бұрын
What temp would the wood burn without the charcoal briquettes? Would it result in bitter dirty smoke without them?
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 9 ай бұрын
Good question- So you need something to keep the new wood continuously ignited and smoking. If you just light a batch of wood chunks they will smoke but it will take a while to get them hot enough to where they stay lit once you remove them from the fire. They would then burn down to coals and then you can add fresh wood to that. So while I guess this is possible to do, I think it will be more hassle than it’s worth and the charcoal will be faster and simpler. Thanks!
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 9 ай бұрын
Flip Pro Smoke Boxes are finally BACK IN STOCK after the MAD dash you guys made on them. 😜 Get one HERE while they last this time! ➡ amzn.to/45rkW8C
@FISHONOVERLAND
@FISHONOVERLAND 10 ай бұрын
Oh men ! I love my Camp Chef Woodwind Pro with the smoke box 📦 it’s definitely a game changer. 🔥 🪵
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Nice! Thanks for watching!
@czak62
@czak62 10 ай бұрын
Have you tried charcoal pellets to start the wood smoking instead of briquets. I have charcoal pellets ,but have not tried them yet in my Pit Boss pellet grill. Briquets are mostly filler.
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
I have not tried them in the smoker box itself. You've got me thinking though...🤔 Thanks for watching!
@samanthalopez7480
@samanthalopez7480 26 күн бұрын
My fiance and i decided to start bbqing as a hobby together. Didnt realize how much the initial cost of buying everything could get. Anyway great video. You just influenced me to buy another bbq product 😂 just placed an order
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 24 күн бұрын
That is awesome! What a great hobby to do together! Yes, it can be expensive upfront depending on the type of smoker you get but don't feel like you need all the bells and whistles and accessories right away. As you cook more you'll find what you like to make and what you truly end up using the most. Make sure to check out our website for more recipes and how-to guides! madbackyard.com. Our FB group is also a great place to share pics of your food and ask questions. facebook.com/groups/madbackyardbbq/
@user-xx2zb3sy6g
@user-xx2zb3sy6g 10 ай бұрын
As of 9/16/23 -- Ordered the Flip Smoke Box from -- Camerons Products --$19.99
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Cool, thanks for the update!!
@user-vw7xc4dm8f
@user-vw7xc4dm8f 28 күн бұрын
You’re a Godsend! When Heaven’s Gate opens, you’ll be first in line!
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 28 күн бұрын
Ha, thank you Clyde! 🙏
@DrCbass123
@DrCbass123 9 ай бұрын
I’ve been using a smoke tube for that extra smoke. I put a mixture of pellets and wood chips. I try my best to get them mixed fairly well. Seems to work pretty good. Might have to give this a try though.
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 9 ай бұрын
Great tip!
@zanderwow
@zanderwow 6 ай бұрын
After being out of stock for months, I just got mine in today! I'm gonna try mine out putting it next to the flame tamer underneath the flame broiler. My thinking is that the fire pot will blow enough flames in to ignite the wood chunks. I'll let ya know how well it works after I smoke my turkeys!
@markstalzer9152
@markstalzer9152 6 ай бұрын
Where did you order from, I just looked everywhere and I can't find them in stodk
@zanderwow
@zanderwow 6 ай бұрын
@@markstalzer9152 from his amazon link in the description.
@zanderwow
@zanderwow 6 ай бұрын
Update to my original comment: So my idea about the placement next to the flame tamer actually worked too well, causing the wood chunks to burn too fast. I smoked 2 turkeys, and the one over the side with the flip smoker cooked much faster. It was up to temp about an hour sooner. Gonna do some more experiments and see what I can learn.
@markstalzer9152
@markstalzer9152 6 ай бұрын
HELLO: Where did you order from, I just looked everywhere and I can't find them in stock
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 6 ай бұрын
Very cool, idea! Thanks for sharing your results!
@stevejonesmo
@stevejonesmo 9 ай бұрын
Nice hack! I think I'm gonna try it. But the form factor is awfully small. What about leaving the lid off so somewhat larger chunks could be used? Would they flame up? If so, do you think that putting a foil tent over it might prevent that?
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 9 ай бұрын
Sometimes I just rest the lid on top and it still works fine. I can still usually fit three small chunks in there which is plenty. Thanks for watching!
@brentavery6997
@brentavery6997 10 ай бұрын
Could you place this above the pellet burner with the attached stand?
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
@brentavery6997 I don't think I would try that, I don't think it will fit under the flamebroiler/heat diffuser and you wont be abel to access it to add more wood without taking everything out again. And I think the wood would just ignite in flames rather than smoke and smolder and you'd mess too much with your temperature control.
@biztrendsmarketing1589
@biztrendsmarketing1589 9 ай бұрын
Hey...were is the link to the smoke temp article you mention. That would be very helpful. thanks
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for catching that! Sorry! Here is the link, I'll add it to the description. www.foodfirefriends.com/smoking-wood-101/
@biztrendsmarketing1589
@biztrendsmarketing1589 9 ай бұрын
@@madbackyard Thanks...I look forward to reading it. Keep up the good work and happy smoking! 😎👍
@zamora3D
@zamora3D 9 ай бұрын
Seems to me, pellet grill manufacturers just needs to get an offset smoker and add a pellet hopper on the side of the firebox. It will have the ease of use of pellets with the availability to put whatever chunks of wood you want on the side.
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 9 ай бұрын
With all the buzz around the Woodwind Pro, I imagine we’ll see more hybrids like this in the next couple of years.
@trigerdiver
@trigerdiver 9 ай бұрын
How would you do this in a vertical smoker?
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 9 ай бұрын
In a vertical pellet smoker? I imagine you could position it on the bottom rack under a disposable water pan on the rack above to block some of the heat of the charcoal. I haven’t tried it personally though in this type of smoker. Curious if anyone else has.
@banksta3
@banksta3 2 ай бұрын
How would you rate this contraption against just using a Woodwind Pro with the built in wood box?
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 2 ай бұрын
I mean if you are looking for a new pellet grill anyways and price is not an issue for you, get the Woodwind Pro for sure. It doesn't get much easier. If you're trying to recreate better wood smoke with the pellet grill you already have, or with a less expensive model...then this works great too. Thanks for watching!
@mikeg6069
@mikeg6069 10 ай бұрын
Simply use wood chips in the hopper mixed with pellets. I use a 1/3 chips 2/3 pellets mix. The chips need to be the right size so that the auger doesn't get jammed. Lone Star Grillz recently started selling Oak and Hickory chips for pellet grill use. IMO they make a big difference.
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Hi Mike- the ones I saw that just recently came out from Lone Star are the ONLY wood chips I've seen shaved small enough to possibly work in the auger. I have not yet tried them myself though so I can't recommend or comment either way but...I would highly recommend against trying just ANY brand of wood chips in your auger.
@mikeg6069
@mikeg6069 10 ай бұрын
@@madbackyard I totally agree. I've look at others but didn't pursue because I wasn't sure they were sized properly to work in a pellet grill. Chris at Lone Star said they were specifically cut for their pellet grills. Even though I don't own an LSG Pellet Grill (I own a Grilla Chimp and a Recteq RT-700), I figured all pellet grill augers are probably similar so I bought 2 boxes. They've worked out great thus far.
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Cool, thanks for the feedback on them, I will have to check them out!
@chapstew2461
@chapstew2461 10 ай бұрын
LSG wood chips for pellet grills have improved my bark and flavors, but I look forward to trying this Mad Grill method as well. Certainly, it costs less than the chips (which I mix 50/50 with high quality pellets). Further, the chips burn faster and hotter than pellets, which leads to slightly more temperature swings and ash.
@mikeg6069
@mikeg6069 10 ай бұрын
@@chapstew2461 for whatever reason, people seek steady temps. But temp swings are actually good for smoke production/flavor and don't compromise the cook at all. Grilla Grills give the option of what they call "Pro" mode and "PID" mode. PID mode yields steady temps. Pro mode yields temp swings, but more smoke. I never cook in PID mode.
@Simplycomfortfood
@Simplycomfortfood 9 ай бұрын
Would this method work perfectly for cold smoking fish?
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 9 ай бұрын
I believe it could on a nice cold day with the smoker turned off!
@zbow1974
@zbow1974 10 ай бұрын
i use a smoke tube in both my electric smoker and my gas grill, my tube smokes for 4 hours then slowly fades over another 1.5 hours plenty of smoke, check your pellet type if your not getting a good burn, not all pellets that are good in a pellet smoker is good for a pellet tube or box. remember just because they are good one way doesn't mean they are good another its all about the PELLETS and how they are used
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Great points - what brand of pellets are you having the best success with?
@Indianear7
@Indianear7 8 ай бұрын
Camp Chef already solved this with their WoodWind models last year.
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 8 ай бұрын
Yes, and I imagine many pellet grill manufacturers will soon follow in their footsteps. Can’t always run out an buy the latest new pellet grill to solve a problem unfortunately so I’ve found this to be a great affordable solution for any pellet grill you already own. Thanks for watching!!
@jsh111
@jsh111 6 ай бұрын
I have a humble suggestion if anyone wants to try it, amaze n makes a pellet maze. If the maze "channels" are wide enough, you could fill the maze with charcoal briquettes, light one end, and put your wood chunks on top of it... Sort of the same idea you would do called the snake method on a regular charcoal grill. I don't own one of these mazes, so i don't know if a standard size charcoal briq would fit, but if anyone does, please let me know
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 6 ай бұрын
Very creative idea! I’ll have to try something like that out on a longer cook.
@jsh111
@jsh111 6 ай бұрын
@@madbackyard please let us know if you do and how it went. If I do it, I'll return here and leave a comment with the results
@arthurwood7525
@arthurwood7525 Ай бұрын
Great video and information on products i didn't know existed, but save the trouble and just cook on an AUTO KAMADO! I mean, WHY NOT??? Why even choose a pellet grill over this amazing beast ? ? ? ?
@KrashmanVonStinkputn
@KrashmanVonStinkputn 10 ай бұрын
I use a cast iron loaf pan to do the same thing. Do not use a grocery store loaf pan....they don't have the Temp rating. Dump, wash out with water NO SOAP, spray with PAM to store.
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 9 ай бұрын
Good tip...I'll have to check out the cast iron one. Thanks!
@patrickgrolemund545
@patrickgrolemund545 10 ай бұрын
Smoker pellets do matter. Don’t go cheap. Remember pellets are rarely made with premium wood.
@gamersconclave9344
@gamersconclave9344 9 ай бұрын
So I followed your steps, but I keep getting the chunks to flame up and produce dirty smoke. I am using B and B briquettes and B and B hickory wood.
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 9 ай бұрын
Should be one or the other - If only getting "dirty" smoke the wood needs more oxygen, try propping the lid open a little more or letting the chunks burn a few minutes longer before adding the lid. If they're going up in flames they're getting too much oxygen. Put the lid on sooner after adding the chunks. Don't confuse all white smoke with "dirty" smoke either. White is ok, dark gray or black is dirty and bad. You aren't really going to get thin wispy blue smoke in a smoker box of any kind. Just not enough airflow and no active fire to get temps high enough, but you will do much better with this than a typical wood chip smoker box and more smoke flavor than a pellet tube IMO. Hope that helps, thanks!
@gamersconclave9344
@gamersconclave9344 9 ай бұрын
@@madbackyard Ah OK, yeah after reading this I think I was just overreacting to white smoke thinking it was dirty. Flame up was not the right choice of words, I didn't actually witness any flare ups I just assumed it was happening. I was getting the thin blue smoke then it was changing to the white smoke and I believe I was just over reacting. Thanks for the reply.
@jdbeernfishing2916
@jdbeernfishing2916 10 ай бұрын
Can you use the same trick with a electric smoker?
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 9 ай бұрын
Interesting question, however I don't really see the need in electric since I think you get plenty of smoke flavor from using wood chips already. Plus, I think the charcoal would have a more significant effect on cooking temperature than in the pellet grill just because of so much less airflow/convection.
@jdbeernfishing2916
@jdbeernfishing2916 9 ай бұрын
@@madbackyard Thanks it’s just that the master built smoker has a very small wood box.
@stephenbrady916
@stephenbrady916 6 ай бұрын
So, with this box it delivers blue smoke and better flavor?
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 6 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t say you get true blue smoke. That’s hard to get without an offset smoker with a very hot fire box. But the wood will burn hotter with charcoal like I show and give you a nice smoke flavor compared to pellets alone IMO.
@stephenbrady916
@stephenbrady916 6 ай бұрын
@@madbackyard I like the pellet tube to add smoke, but I’m getting a mild acrid taste. If charcoal + wood chunks adds better smoke, I’ll have to try it. Thanks!
@nickmumby3393
@nickmumby3393 4 ай бұрын
This feels just like an Ad. All the amazon links have redirect tokens. Can't really believe anything in videos like this
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 4 ай бұрын
They are affiliate links, not redirects. The disclaimer is right above them.
@joekun5785
@joekun5785 9 ай бұрын
Would soaking the wood chunks in water for at least an hour help make them last longer?
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 9 ай бұрын
I have read from the best BBQ folks I follow that soaking the wood doesn’t really do anything. You get some steam in the beginning that people mistake for smoke. But the wood really can’t get to those hot temperatures and make the good smoke you’re looking for until all that water evaporates. And I don’t think it will absorb that much in an hour anyways. It will all evaporate in a matter of minutes or even seconds if exposed to hot charcoal. So IMO it’s better to just keep it simple and skip this step. Thanks for watching!
@joekun5785
@joekun5785 9 ай бұрын
@@madbackyard OK yes that makes sense. Can't wait to try and step up my BBQ game. Thanks!
@mdamiano88
@mdamiano88 10 ай бұрын
How many hours would you add chunks to a cook before it would get over smoked. Like, about how many reloads is enough assuming doing 2 chunks at a time. 4 hours?
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Hi Mark- it really depends on what meat you are smoking- fish and poultry will absorb a lot more smoke faster so are easier to “over smoke” than beef or pork. Also the type of wood. Hickory, and especially mesquite, give off more distinctive flavors so you don’t usually need as much, all else being equal, compared to fruitwoods or oak. I wish there was an easy answer but you just need to practice with different combinations and figure out what works best for you depending what you are cooking. I would say poultry and fish don’t add more than an hour of smoke until you get used to using it to avoid ruining (maybe salmon being the exception can take more smoke).
@mdamiano88
@mdamiano88 9 ай бұрын
@@madbackyardFinally got the box and tried it out…. This is the way!
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 9 ай бұрын
@@mdamiano88 Awesome! Glad it's working for you and love the Mando ref! I actually reached out to Camerons about this video and they sent me a new product to try out that I think may work similarly but for longer cooks. Need to do some more testing but stay tuned!
@user-nm1ig4ye1o
@user-nm1ig4ye1o 6 ай бұрын
@@madbackyard what is the new product from Cameron’s that will last longer? Have you had good results? Thx
@andyfaulkner8228
@andyfaulkner8228 9 ай бұрын
Tried this method, didn’t work for me. Didn’t add any smoke flavor. My grill is the competition series Pitboss and doesn’t have a stack it vents across the whole chamber, been wondering if that’s why it lacks in smoke flavor so much. The smoke has an unobstructed path to just fly out.
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 9 ай бұрын
Hey Andy- yeah I’m guessing that’s the problem. Same reason it’s hard to get smoke flavor on a gas grill with the back vented like that. Theres no reason it shouldnt work. You could try some hickory or mesquite to get a stronger smoky flavor if you didn’t already. Or try positioning it closer to the meat, smoking longer, or even position the smoke box under the meat by using the top rack so that it has to pass it on its way out.
@ggruber66
@ggruber66 10 ай бұрын
I'm in the market for a new smoker. How do you think this compares versus buying a Woodwind Pro with the built in Firebox? It's way less expensive obviously, but is it as effective?
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
I've seen the Woodwind Pro in action but haven't cooked on it personally yet, so hard for me to give you a fair opinion. However, it looks to achieve the same thing as I'm doing but in a very convenient way. (No charcoal, so no separate heat source to manage, no worrying about smoker box placement and keeping it away from the food and thermometer, just a slider drawer to put your wood chunks in and be on your way). I'll think you'll achieve similar results either way. IMHO: The best grills and smokers are the ones you love using and will use often, and not groan thinking about all the setup you have to do and whether its worth the time and energy. So it's up to you if you think that level of convenience is worth the price. I also predict MANY more pellet grill brands will be offering a model with some variation of this feature in the next season or two, hopefully at lower price points as well, based on the hype generated by the Woodwind this year. Thanks for watching!
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
🔥 CORRECTION: Use a regular sized loaf pan, NOT Mini.
@MrBudge72
@MrBudge72 10 ай бұрын
Currently unavailable
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
@@MrBudge72 A few people have told me that, they've been pretty popular since we published this video. I've been keeping an eye on them, they seem to come back in stock every few days, I would just check back next week. Thanks for watching!
@tlwayman
@tlwayman 9 ай бұрын
@@madbackyardstill nothing
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 9 ай бұрын
@@MrBudge72 Back in stock!
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 9 ай бұрын
@@tlwayman Back in stock!
@danielscholl7116
@danielscholl7116 2 ай бұрын
2 wax cubes is enough for a chimney full of charcoal. 1 would be plenty.
@kevinraines8928
@kevinraines8928 9 ай бұрын
Just bought this. The smoker box is tiny. Tried the smoker exactly as shown here and have never seen smoke last more the 30 mins. Someone should make the box twice as long
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 9 ай бұрын
I agree it'd be great if it was a little bigger. To be fair though, they didn't design it to do exactly what I'm showing here, but to instead be more like a pellet tube smoker. So you will need to use smaller chunks to fit. Since I first shot this, I've started lighting one briquette on one end and then placing 3-4 more in a line next to it so they ignite slower as a chain reaction and then placing 2-3 small wood chunks in a line on top and throwing some wood chips in around the edges. Seems to last longer than just lighting up everything at once. Still a great way to get more smoke flavor, thanks for watching!
@matthewlblair
@matthewlblair 9 ай бұрын
@@madbackyardhow long does this method make it last for you? Have you done a direct comparison of with and without on short and long smokes to taste test the difference?
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 9 ай бұрын
@@matthewlblair Hey Matthew- no I haven't gotten that scientific with it just yet. I did a whole chicken today using some apple wood and the method I described above with 4 briquets in a line and 3 small chunks of wood on top and got well over an hour of smoke before it went completely out. Even on my BGE I'm adding another chunk every hour to hour and a half or so, (unless they are huge), so I'm pretty happy getting to ignore it for an hour and then at that point only having to throw in another piece of charcoal and chunk of wood, takes about 15 seconds.
@Rollingstone2009
@Rollingstone2009 10 ай бұрын
Or… get a Campchef woodwind pro.
@JB-ej2qy
@JB-ej2qy 8 ай бұрын
I use to soak wood chips for a hour before smoking, then wrap in foil. I then poked holes in the foil. I think I’m going to try this on my pellet smoker but add hot charcoal in with the foil with the wood. Wish me luck 🫣😝
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 8 ай бұрын
Yeah let me know how it goes...You could also use a disposable foil pan covered in foil and poked with holes. I find you need quite a bit of oxygen to keep the coals and wood smoking well though so that's why I like this fire box from Camerons because of the number of holes and good airflow.
@Justin-tq3em
@Justin-tq3em 7 ай бұрын
Out of stock everywhere. Is there a comparable product that someone has tried?
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 7 ай бұрын
This looks the most comparable, if anything even a little bigger and sturdier. But I have not tried this product out personally. amzn.to/3QWX4DT
@InterTay
@InterTay 10 ай бұрын
Good product and very informative. But as someone who hoped a pellet grill could replace my drum smoker, the fact that this product exists tells us volumes. If I’m going to muck around with lighting coals and loading chunks, I think I’ll just use the drum
@The_Orphanizer
@The_Orphanizer 10 ай бұрын
You're not wrong, but there is still a key difference between doing things this way vs. an offset, that being fire management. This will take more effort than strictly pellet smoking, but it will get you closer to offset flavor. However, unlike an offset, this will not have a significant effect on the heat of the cook chamber. An offset will still require regular intervention to maintain the temperature. If these chunks burn out, all you lose is some extra smoke/smoke flavor, but your cook is unchanged. For something with even less effort than this that still makes significant effort to close the gap between offset/drum and pellet grill, check out the Camp Chef Woodwind Pro and Vertical XXL Pro. Both use pellets, but they also have a chamber for wood chunks/chips/charcoal that sits just above the firepot. There is a flue separating the smokebox from the firepot, which is accessed from outside the smoker (via lever). The smokebox also slides out of the smoker on a rail, allowing you to add wood chunks/charcoal without opening the cook chamber.
@gosman949
@gosman949 10 ай бұрын
your smoke box is not available.
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Yeah it looks like they sold out this weekend unfortunately after we posted this video. This is the closest similar one I could find but doesn't have the stand like the Flip Box or as much airflow ➡️ amzn.to/3r24b4X Hopefully they will have more in stock next week, I would keep checking back.
@waldos9001
@waldos9001 10 ай бұрын
Why don’t you just use a Heavy D made by Smoke Daddy
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
I have looked at the Heavy D- however I was looking for a more straightforward option. The flip smoke box is 1/10 the price and easier to reload- No need to lift the flame broiler up and disrupt your food to access the wood.
@TerryBollea1
@TerryBollea1 10 ай бұрын
Its called a gravity smoker chud muffin.
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
Thanks I’ll have to check out that model.
@Bigu4300
@Bigu4300 9 ай бұрын
Nope
@wwjj64
@wwjj64 10 ай бұрын
Pitt Boss lol
@jfennell32
@jfennell32 10 ай бұрын
Losing too much space
@williamjones2970
@williamjones2970 10 ай бұрын
Just buy a stick burner and make real bbq.
@jdubb0113
@jdubb0113 10 ай бұрын
FACTS!....I was just about to comment this😂😂😂😂.. Ain't nothing like my Lang 60 reverse flow smoker.. I pull off top notch bbq every time on it🔥🔥
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
The great thing about BBQ is that there's something for everyone out there. Thanks for watching!
@62dobie
@62dobie 10 ай бұрын
As someone who lives in an apartment, I can not own a stick burner. But, my Woodwind Pro is the next best option. I love it.
@juanthompson8016
@juanthompson8016 10 ай бұрын
​@@jdubb0113it's called personal preference clown 😂😂🤡🤡
@lesgrant7861
@lesgrant7861 10 ай бұрын
I have 2 offsets, 1 is a reverse flow, and 6 UDS, and bought my 1st wifi pellet Green mountain grill. Out of them all and if I had to use just 1 for competition or to make my best smoked meats. I prefer the UDS, even over the stick burners because I don't have to put a stick in them once every hour. I think every serious BBQ person should try them all then pick what works for them the best. So far on the pellet the smoke flavor does suck, that is why when I seen this video I clicked on it. 😉
@loseerich493
@loseerich493 10 ай бұрын
Tedious. I can pound a nail with handle of a screwdriver but they make hammers for that task. If you as an end-user are finding yourself going thru all of the hassle of supplementing your pellet cooker with charcoal, ignition cubes , smoke wood & 3rd party boxes, then I'd submit you purchased the wrong tool (a pellet grill) for your job. I find using the pellet grill a tool to use when going-in, we're all deciding to be ok with getting a milder BBQ flavor from whatever it is we're cooking at the time. If we want more BBQ/smoke flavor we fire up a kettle or kamado style implement that takes no longer & no more effort to run than what's going on here, for in the case of a kettle, at least 2 hours. That's at least 2+ hours of high-quality smoke & often times that's plenty of time to use for smoke flavor. After that I toss item in kitchen oven, gas grill or whatever to finish cooking the stuff. Happy BBQ'ing everyone!
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 10 ай бұрын
To each their own I guess. After doing this a few times I find I can get the fire box lit pretty quickly, usually in less time than it takes the pellet smoker to heat up, and it’s ready to go when I put the food on. Then it’s just cooking like I always do on the pellet smoker. Just an extra level of smoke flavor when I want it without lighting up a whole charcoal smoker But I don’t always set it up either. Thanks for watching!
@Gen.Bread75
@Gen.Bread75 9 ай бұрын
too much work
@fishinman539
@fishinman539 10 ай бұрын
Just use a stick smoker lmao
@fiveoranges
@fiveoranges 9 ай бұрын
I don't see the link to food fire friends article you mentioned. Is it the one labeled "Smoking Wood 101 - An Expert Guide to Using Smoking Woods"?
@madbackyard
@madbackyard 9 ай бұрын
Yes, sorry about that! I have put the link in the description now. Here it is: www.foodfirefriends.com/smoking-wood-101/
@rondent2879
@rondent2879 5 ай бұрын
Lazy amateurs will go to any lengths to replicate a stick burner and in the end it's more work than just using a stick burner.
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