Super late, but here's how I think this correlates to Mami Candeloro is The Witch of Dress Up, representing her "dressing up" and faking her sisterly and ideal personality towards Madoka and Sayaka to show them how a magical girl should be like. The rest of the description also fits how she was before becoming a witch, inviting nature, kind hearted, all of it. She also always felt lonely, after her parents' death so now she hates being lonely and never lets visitors escape, like how she wants to drag Sayaka and Madoka to the magical girl life so they can be together forever. It's pretty sad :(

​@@ballmonokumastan1587 in magia record her transformation has a lot of dressing up moments

I thought she was the witch of dress-up bc she had a day job as a model in her spare time @@ballmonokumastan1587

But is small

As long as you ignore the eternal emotional suffering part...she's adorable!❤

Agree, but the only thing that I don't like is her legs

Her “apron” is her mouth :))

Overlord9001 it would also mean that he can't play becuase of a witch

+Overlord9001 he sounds too young to be kyouske :/

It could be him only younger because Mami did say the boy died a long time ago.

Bella Augenstein but I can't be him because that boy that died had brown hair

I just realized that XD

I would assume that if she had succeeded in killing Madoka and Homura after the revelation, she would’ve immediately become a witch after that moment, before she could turn her gun on herself. Her despair was already too deep from the thought, but with Mami’s loneliness, the minute the others were dead, her despair would’ve consumed her.

+Alyss Bernkastel (Carrie Careless) Well, it explains it by how high a person's Good Karma is. Sayaka's was probably a higher karma, even if she made a 'simple' wish. She used it to heal someone else, not herself. Kyouko's wish was a bit more over it, but it wasn't healing people. It was making people become hypnotized and follow her dad. Still, Madoka has so much Karma that she became a Goddess. Even with all the original loop versions of each character combined, it wouldn't have been enough to grant the kind of wish Madoka asked for. The reason Madoka has so much Karma is because of Homura's own wish, which is centered around her. Plus, Homura went through endless time loops to the point where she had just enough to become a Goddess. So, eventually that karma turns into the opposite...bad luck, or 'bad' karma. The same karma you had before transfers over to your Witch form. This is why if Madokami became a Witch, it would destroy the universe. But when Sayaka or Kyouko turn into a Witch, they're about medium-high level. Plus, some Witches are just more powerful and more difficult to defeat. Sometimes, you have to meet a certain 'requirement' to defeat one (like with Elsa Maria you have to know the blackest of despair, which is what Sayaka was going through and why she turned into Octavia). For Mami...her Witch form isn't seen in the anime, so it's treated in the game like any regular witch boss. At least that's how I see why it's the reason she's so weak in the game. ^-^'

+Rhianna Tanski Oh, thank you. It's a little bit clearer for me now. ^-^

Alyss Bernkastel Welcome~ It was hard for me to understand at first too, but I looked it up and understood right away.

+Rhianna Tanski Well, it has been a while since I didn't see Madoka. And I played the game in japanese without reading the translation here .. understanding everything was possible, but, kinda hard.

+Rhianna Tanski "...countless loops..." Close to 100. Comes up to something like 8 or so years, depending on exactly how long a loop lasts (IIRC, it's exactly a month, but I think it actually comes up as a month and a half according to some - people looked at the calendar in Homura's starting hospital and and... some other event. Can't remember which). What's up with that BS karma explanation? Girls that are in terrible situations are preyed upon by Kyubey and he gives them magical oomph unlocked according to how miserable they were. Take, for example, Homura. She had a semi bad situation, got shit stats (Gen made a rough stat guide; fuck me if I know where it is) compared to almost everyone (she and Sayaka had pretty terrible stats - no wonder, considering the extent of her worries was how to get Kyousuke crushing on her and Homura wished for too much and subsequently got pretty much only her magic, which will eventually run out). Now look at Homura's witch form, because it's a drastic example. She, immediately after witching out, was attacked by an entire team of magical girls. Holy shit, her Familiars were evenly matched with experienced magical girls. So it's pretty damn obvious one's potential continues to rise even after the contract, but it's only unleashed once you witch out. The potential probably starts from anew, which is why some witches are weak as shit, while Homura went through literally years of seeing her best friend dying over and over and over again. Pretty much the definition of Hell on Earth. Also coincidences with there being a release of energy at both times (contracting and witching out). Damn. Wish you didn't talk about such a fucking depressing topic. (I'm talking about Puella Magi as a whole. Holy shit, it literally means they're slaves - the name - you can't get much worse than that.)

They should’ve made Madoka Portable an alternate timeline anime project instead of Rebellion

Or the different story spin offs

@@SilenceGlaiveMaster I fuckin agree

@@SilenceGlaiveMaster nah they should have made even with the Rebellion movie

if they did I would've bawled my soul out.... watching this video was very painful for me to endure (cuz I'm a loyal Mami fan)

THIS WILL END IT

*ENOUGH OF THAT!*

Wait what? 🗿

How about this? TAKE THIS!

Sonic 06 reference

does she? "You know, don't you? This is the only path left for me" "I want *...* to fight to protect everyone" "Did I... did I really live an upstanding life" In order: Madoka knows she's dead either way, she hesitates to declare her willingness to die for others, and her dying words are begging for affirmation. This is a suicide march because she thinks the right thing to do is to die, which it quite frankly is when weighed against turning into a witch. If this Madoka knew Homura could time travel, she would get the same promise as in timeline 3, the only difference is she doesn't want it badly enough to sell Homura's soul for it. Unfortunately, Homura does.

Yeah, the fact that she didn’t even think Homura might wish to save her already shows how (kinda ironically) hopeless she is and decides to commit suicide under the premise of helping others, a bit like a person who willingly joins the military in hopes of dying in war.

Well she almost did on the manga The Different Story so yay it probably happens in at least one timeline, and this timeline must be VERY VERY bad

Kyoko does become a witch in the game after they kill sayaka witch

@@aloisssssss Kyouko would problably become a witch immediately in The Different Story had Mami succumbed to despair in this timeline. I'm taking your word for it, that Mami didn't become a witch there. I wish I knew where to find this manga though.

for the second half of the game you play as Akemi

Is it bad I really want this game now because of that? Does it make me a sadist to wanna play the game just for the fact you get to turn these girls into witches?

HOW DO YOU PKAY IT. I WANNA KNOW

PLAY

@@abbycollinsnot at all! I believe it would be interesting to see how they would play it in the game. (Plot wise) I’m curious as well and wnat to play it despretly

@@madoka8352 ahoy me matey! psp emulator+download+fan english translation+ratio!

Fr tho man

kOU-CHAN.... ;___(

I mean, going though that kind of trauma all on your own is bound to make someone fall into despair and madness. Can’t really blame her in this end, Kyuubey basically made her into a witch by triggering her biggest trauma and convincing her the best way to handle it is all on your own and isolated. He fucked Mami royaly hard in this timeline, literally this and the Sayaka bad endings are the biggest tear jerkers of the game equal in tears generated, but different in ways of achieving that and scope.

***** Candeloro loves to have guests for dinner.

KawlieTheHuskyFox Well Homura and Madoka are magical girls so of couse she would attack them.

KawlieTheHuskyFox I really doubt she would willingly let her "guests" go away whenever they pleased though, if ever.

She is; she only attacks if you try to leave her.

She is but she woun't let anyone leave once they enter her labirynth.

It can actually mean that she thinks she's weak and small

@@phantom_servant7980so sayaka thinks she’s big and strong? 💀💀

@@solm.6184 She kind of did! She had a very distorted idea of justice and felt like she can achieve it by any means. She didn’t imagine just how complicated and morally-complex it would get, which is also how she succumbed to grief after realising what her wish’s true intentions were. Though, I think the size of witches doesn’t have to depend on this factor, it can be for a variety of reasons, and likely Sayaka’s witch size isn’t because of that either.

She’s so small, she can fit into a tea cup comfortably.

He technically didn't lie, he talked in roundabout ways to manipulate them

It’s like he tells Homura. He would’ve stopped them if he felt Kyoko’s death did not serve a purpose. He was just orchestrating a situation to his advantage, trying to send both Sayaka and Kyoko to their deaths. Kyubey is a manipulative monster, plain and simple.

he's rational but for his own greed

"Madoka's FEEL stat rose 30 points." I nearly died laughing.

Just one of the things that really ruins the scenario...

This is what we call "Being human"

prospektiVox that isn't good, enough feels, she will turn into a witch

((Perhaps even though her best friend was Madoka, and she cared for Madoka more than anyone else would expect... she might still have cared just as much about the others. And plus, she knows how much Madoka cares for Mami and even if she just wished Madoka back to life, Madoka would highly likely fall into despair shortly after, and as a result Homura will too. It might have generated a buttload of emotional energy for Kyuubey, but it wouldn't be good for the rest.))

***** it depends on how potent Homura's magicking ability is. However, if it is, it will most likely be more successful for the trio. That said, it might not solve any issue that caused the duo to die in the first place, so it might not be as effective as thought.

+Sapphire Indigo Angellia (Melissa Lim) It's not really potent. From a stats chart made by Urobuchi (VERY rough), she had about as much potential as Sayaka. Her only stat that was high was Magic - everything else was lower than anything any of the other girls had. It was 7 while Mami had 4 in there, I think. For reference, Mami had the highest stats. Until loop 3, that is. Madoka rose to about her level by then. Considering there were almost a hundred loops and her potential rose exponentially... It's no wonder she could make a new law of the universe. I'll try to find it, but... well it has been a while since I saw it.

Probably because that would be beyond Kyubey's power. And what Sapphire said.

Sayaka was wished back to life in one of the timeline by Madoka. Madoka's original wish is to resurrect the black cat, so it's not beyond Kyubey's power. The issue is more about Homura wanting to protect Sayaka instead of being protected by her.

sakura5sango6 technically it is Double K.O. Madoka ended up dying afterwards

Tho, the implication that even without Mami and Homura she was exactly (meaning she is able to defeat it only if she dies with her) as powerful as the all mighty Walprughisnacht is horrifying, but it would explain why durring the show in the second timeline (the first reset where Homura used her wish to try to save Madoka), when Madoka becomes a witch, she is so strong she doesn’t need a barrier just like the big bad Walprughisnacht.

Homura using her time abilities XD

Man that comment gave me whiplash

@@abbycollins I just wish the English fan-subtitles were completed for this game. I love this game, but it’s kinda annoying having to use my phone and Google Translate if I want to play the bonus story route, as well as Kyoko’s and Homura’s routes.

also, madoka got feels lel

+Hachiko1986 I used a real PSP

+Blick Winkel Thank you!! I suppose that you have the real psp and the real game. I used the iso in my psp but no worked. Thank you anyway!

Thanks for the work! XD

Alex Mc Actually, I'd rather have a quick death than have my soul suffer for all eternity as a monstrous being consumed by regret.

+TheGhostbuster1989 It's not for all eternity - you get used by Kyubey for a cause he's probably lying about! I mean, Kyubey claims not to understand the human concept of lying yet lies by omission and outright manipulates teenage girls into making conclusions that would benefit his marshmallowy ass. Fuck that guy. It's either something easy to confirm (MGs can't function without their SG around) or something literally no one in the cast can confirm (fighting entropy? Oh really? Where's the proof, you slimy bastard). Heat death of the universe is also an event literally trillions of years away. His entire being is - by fighting off only that - showing his self indulgence and arrogance. He're basically saying nothing else matters and that nothing else can do anything about him. It's also pretty damn telling that they sought out other species for their own parasitical gain. He feeds on the souls of emotionally manipulated teenage girls. That's moustache twirling evil and shows his lack of soul (emotions are basically souls there and he never uses magic). ... I have no idea how this turned into a rant. I guess seeing best girl give it her best anf dying depressed left me in a shit mood.

Which makes his fate at the end of Rebellion his "just desserts", He tried to use Humanity and in the end he got used in the end instead and by the one he was the biggest troll too...Karma is a bitch

Mami always tries to put on a brave face and act like the perfect role model, and doesn't rely on anyone but herself (as for why she does this... it's tied to her survivor's guilt, which opens a whole can of worms) That's why she couldn't have that close relationship even though she knew Madoka longer than Homura did.

@@baguette3025 And Mami is a senior, meaning she is in a different class and has less of a chance to interact with Madoka compared to Homura, who is with her both at school and during her missions.

The question is not where, but when.

There's an english-patched version around, just google it.

turtlecheese8 Tradukosoft is doing a translation of the game, which you can use by patching the UMD's ISO.

Magic makes body of magical girl in living state. So.

Sort of there is is a witch called Roberta who lived all the way to 30 years old but she must have saved up on greif seeds

+Lunos Ouroboros Yeah, but how many magical girls are comfortable killing other magical girls once they know the wtiches used to be magical girls? And, doesn't the body stop aging entirely once you become a magical girl? so it's like you can't help but fall into grief if you realize you can't have a normal adult life like everyone else.

+Tanya Kuntz (AuroraMoon) No, you still age. One became a woman through age in a spinoff, but I can't be arsed to find it. (Seriously, all these nuggets from people who read them.) But they're still unable to have a normal life. Killing for them is literally the basis of survival and Kyubey sure as fuck wouldn't help their mindset while at it.

Bludflag Kubey flat out said the body can't age on it own naturally... you had to alter and age up your own body though magic, otherwise it would be immortal. Kyoko Sakura lived for a long-ass time, and yet hadn't aged at all because she didn't bother using her own magic to age up her own body. Also, logically if a magical girl choose to age up she also can choose to age down too... although there would be disadvantages to that.

What!?

lunala the goddess of the night .....

Thank

Mami = Candeloro Madoka = Kriemhild Gretchen Homura = Homulily Sayaka = Oktavia Kyoko = Ophelia

+Yuki Chan i know there devil ones of them devil homura devil madoka devil sayaka devil kyoko that all

Thak you! :D

Candeloro

@Gaming Animation I think it's a twist of her witch form and her human form Homura and Spider Lily Homulily's witchs kiss is a spider lily

Lmao how did it go

@@kuramiraw544 Well....I finished Madoka's route like 6 times (only translated the entire thing once though the rest was just grinding) and finished Mami's route once (and am doing it again for the witch ending). So it's going fine just a minor inconvenience....

I got the English emulator fan-patch, but it’s incomplete, so I also used my phone to translate the game, but I only had to do that for the bonus route, Kyoko’s and Homura’s routes.