Madsen LMG Disassembly & Functioning

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Forgotten Weapons

Forgotten Weapons

8 жыл бұрын

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The Madsen LMG is of particular interest to me because it is both a very mechanically unusual design and also a very early successful design. Madsen light machine guns were first used in combat in the Russo-Japanese War, saw use in both World Wars, and continued to be used by various forces (the Brazilian police being a notable example) until quite recently. Mechanically, the Madsen is a falling block type of action, which allows it to use a very short receiver (since there is no need for space for a bolt to travel forward and backward). Today I figured we would spend time pulling apart a live registered Madsen (a dealer sample, unfortunately) to examine its working parts.

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@tommasomorandini1982
@tommasomorandini1982 6 жыл бұрын
"You know, there's an LMG that needs only 1 inch of bolt travel" "That's madness!" "No, that's Madsen!"
@ethantaillefer-meyn6535
@ethantaillefer-meyn6535 3 жыл бұрын
Good job that put a smile on my face
@dallesamllhals9161
@dallesamllhals9161 Жыл бұрын
Hah-hah Funny! From DK 😛
@thegoldencaulk2742
@thegoldencaulk2742 8 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered if Ian did a spin-off series to Forgotten Weapons that focused on more well known and successful weapons and call it "Unforgettable Weapons." Just a thought though, as I imagine that the forgotten weapons tend to have more interesting characteristics and features.
@RedXlV
@RedXlV 8 жыл бұрын
TheGoldenCaulk Some of them like the Madsen were very successful, and just became "forgotten" because when it comes to *old* weapons it seems like only the major powers' guns get remembered.
@thegoldencaulk2742
@thegoldencaulk2742 8 жыл бұрын
RedXlV I didn't mean to say that as a mark against the Madsen, it was just a general thought I had. Still, you have a point there
@EddyMac1903
@EddyMac1903 8 жыл бұрын
'Unforgettable' could also refer to more infamous and notably unsuccessful weapons too.
@MrBioniclefan1
@MrBioniclefan1 8 жыл бұрын
+Future Ruler of Ukraine lol yes
@sergeantbigmac
@sergeantbigmac 8 жыл бұрын
Is it the only pre-WWI machine gun that survived and served into the 'modern age'? Thats all kinds of amazing. Why the hell doesnt the Madsen get more credit???
@MrBandholm
@MrBandholm 8 жыл бұрын
+sergeantbigmac Perhaps because it is from a small nation, and the major powers wanted to use their own designs/national designs so that production was at home... That is really the only answer I can think of
@sergeantbigmac
@sergeantbigmac 8 жыл бұрын
bandholm Thats as good an answer as any, thank you.
@Blight_750
@Blight_750 8 жыл бұрын
I agreed, the Madsen dose deserve more credit
@TroopperFoFo
@TroopperFoFo 7 жыл бұрын
The Lewis gun. Went into the 50s in some cases. Or we can say farther since the FG-42 is basically based on a Lewis gun and the M60 is based on the FG-42. So in term the M60 is just a variant of the Lewis gun in some weird way.
@sergeantbigmac
@sergeantbigmac 7 жыл бұрын
TroopperFoFo Ya maybe, but I dont think that counts... You could say the same thing about many designs, like brownings tilting barrel handgun design. The Madsen by itself survived well into the cold war era.
@iknowmy3tables
@iknowmy3tables 8 жыл бұрын
seeing the action of the Madsen reminds me less of a the linear reciprocating bolts of modern guns and more like an artilary team rapid firing an artilary piece, only the team is the series of cams
@MrBioniclefan1
@MrBioniclefan1 5 жыл бұрын
iknowmy3table that is so true
@Mike_Rogge
@Mike_Rogge 5 жыл бұрын
ur speling iz graet.
@qualquerdomundo
@qualquerdomundo 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, you is correct but the cams works better than the artillery team.
@BigboiiTone
@BigboiiTone 2 жыл бұрын
Artillery*
@BigboiiTone
@BigboiiTone 2 жыл бұрын
@@qualquerdomundo you are* correct.
@rahbaralhaq
@rahbaralhaq 8 жыл бұрын
Looking back to your old Madsen LMG video, you went form being a enthusiastic young gun nerd to an veteran, respectable expert on forgotten firearms. You have really come a long way. Great work!
@HinanawiTenko
@HinanawiTenko 8 жыл бұрын
Sure its complex, but looking at how mechanically robust it looked, this must have been extremely reliable for the time.
@ToastyMozart
@ToastyMozart 8 жыл бұрын
+mathwizi2005 It's a bit complex in concept, but it seems remarkably simple in operation and manufacturing. It only takes 6 or 7 fairly large parts (not including pins).
@egoalter1276
@egoalter1276 7 жыл бұрын
it has a grand total of 4 moving parts. I wouldnt call it very complex.
@coryfice1881
@coryfice1881 7 жыл бұрын
It's apparently still used by law enforcement in certain parts of the world.
@BD.1996
@BD.1996 7 жыл бұрын
mathwizi2005 Brazil I believe still uses it for police usage. Don't wanna imagine how bad it's gotta be there to justify it though
@armandosabre4111
@armandosabre4111 6 жыл бұрын
Clearly the best LMG in use during the 1th. WW ! And Ben Evenson, you're right. I'm Brazilian, and the military state police of Rio Grande do Sul (Brigada Militar) used this weapon with the Schawrzlose machinegun in the 60's, and maybe even today the military state police of RJ are using the Madsen against the narcos !
@SlimRhyno
@SlimRhyno 3 жыл бұрын
"The Danish Recoil Rifle Syndicate." How is that not the name of a metal band from Denmark?! Man, I love all the epic stuff I learn from watching Ian's channel! 🤙
@greystorm9974
@greystorm9974 Жыл бұрын
Even in Danish Riffelsyndikatet sounds esoteric and omnious
@SlimRhyno
@SlimRhyno Жыл бұрын
@@greystorm9974 That seals it... We need to start a metal band! 🤘 You and I! 😄
@tomarmstrong1297
@tomarmstrong1297 2 жыл бұрын
Just blown away by the genius of this design, and it being updated right up until 1950 shows how well it was received. Really deserves more credit as a design.
@cameronjenkins6748
@cameronjenkins6748 8 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to figure out how these things work for a while now, and now I can see that they are actually remarkably simple and absolutely ingenious designs. They look clumsy/ungainly, but they are excellent guns.
@762gunr
@762gunr 8 жыл бұрын
All done without CAD.........
@KebeQ
@KebeQ 7 жыл бұрын
762gunr cad?
@rune1234rune
@rune1234rune 7 жыл бұрын
Computer Aided Design.
@ShermanT.Potter
@ShermanT.Potter 6 жыл бұрын
Cadmium. :)
@LOUDcarBOMB
@LOUDcarBOMB 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting fact: John Moses Browning didn't work with decimals, but with fractions. Imagine trying to do every bit of engineering with just fractions and converting them as well.
@ultranitro437
@ultranitro437 4 жыл бұрын
Auto-cad
@CrunchyMaggots
@CrunchyMaggots 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know how people could think this thing doesn't look pretty. It's both mechanically and visually stunning imo. Had not heard of this thing before. Really impressive.
@TwentythreePER
@TwentythreePER 7 жыл бұрын
At first I thought it would be a mediocre LMG but it's actually a very ingenious and interesting design. Thanks.
@SortenRavn
@SortenRavn 4 жыл бұрын
Trust the Danes to make something look easy/"cheap" but in reality its very ingenous.. Just like us Danes.. we might look simple but theres often more underneath
@Brawler_1337
@Brawler_1337 3 жыл бұрын
They’re still being used by Brazilian police. I imagine it’s primarily out of necessity, but I can definitely see some legitimate reasons to still use this thing. It has a short receiver length, it’s easy to change calibers (maybe not relevant for a police force, but potentially useful if you don’t have tight logistical constraints), it’s lefty-friendly, they seem stable and durable from the footage I’ve seen of them shooting, and the magazines are likely cheap due to the lack of feed lips.
@jaysbob
@jaysbob 8 жыл бұрын
The Madsen is one of my favorites. The fact that it's still used in some places really speaks volumes for the design.
@MadsMadsen837
@MadsMadsen837 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for pronouncing Madsen right.
@stevenmadsen9507
@stevenmadsen9507 6 жыл бұрын
Mads Madsen wanted to name my son Mads but my wife threatened harm to parts of of my anatomy that are quite precious to me.
@BleedingUranium
@BleedingUranium 7 жыл бұрын
Important question: In Battlefield 1, the Madsen currently (incorrectly) ejects casings to the left instead of down. I've passed this on to the devs, but I need to know what the flap-looking piece on the left of the receiver is. The one that looks like an ejection post/dust cover, but isn't.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 жыл бұрын
That is the cam that pushes rounds into the receiver from the bottom of the magazine.
@BleedingUranium
@BleedingUranium 7 жыл бұрын
Oh that makes sense, looking at the internals again. Thank you very much, this has gone to them as well. :)
@gonzalez519
@gonzalez519 7 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons it is almost unimaginable how gun manufacturers of those times were able to do such marvelous and intricate systems without the aids of a modern computer. Keep up the great reviews.
@hartianx1698
@hartianx1698 7 жыл бұрын
Did they fix it?
@Liz-fr6rt
@Liz-fr6rt 7 жыл бұрын
Looks like they took notice. Devs corrected it as of the latest patch
@intervention.07
@intervention.07 Жыл бұрын
I love that there is a place in this world confident enough in its people that one can shop for a light machine-gun at public auction!!
@intervention.07
@intervention.07 Жыл бұрын
Long live the USA😎
@generalgrievous4341
@generalgrievous4341 7 жыл бұрын
I think the Madsen Gun is beautiful.
@weeeds334
@weeeds334 8 жыл бұрын
i wouldnt have mind a 10min longer vid for the history. gj anyway ;)
@QuellicheilMarza
@QuellicheilMarza 8 жыл бұрын
Simply amazing, it doesn't even look bad designwise. A fine piece of story and engineering. Thanks Ian
@TankGun90
@TankGun90 Ай бұрын
Another awesome video, I find the Madsen to be a very pretty gun and a very fascinating one at that. Thank you for showing the details you do and the explanations. Also thank you again for allowing me to use one of your videos in my stream
@ristoalanko9281
@ristoalanko9281 7 жыл бұрын
Finnish Army had some of these in 1930s. They were described as "assembled of various malfunctions in heavy steel cover".
@AustralianShootingChannel
@AustralianShootingChannel 8 жыл бұрын
Love the ejection ramp. I could imagine all the reloaders at the range putting a bucket underneath it to collect the brass haha. Keep up the good work mate! Cheers, ASC.
@nodresiak
@nodresiak 8 жыл бұрын
I could honestly listen to you talk about guns all day. I know a lot about boomsticks but I have the feeling watching your videos that you may have forgotten more than I currently know about them. God bless and carry on good sir.
@HPBrowningBoy
@HPBrowningBoy 8 жыл бұрын
I love the look of Madsen machine guns and the fact that they survived in service for so long. Now I've learned why, very clever and versatile design. Thanks Ian!
@hydroplaneing
@hydroplaneing 4 жыл бұрын
Watching this video made me feel like I'm back in calculus II in college! The designers of this gun were phenomenal!
@alexandrdmitrievich
@alexandrdmitrievich 8 жыл бұрын
Sweet LMG. Interesting mechanics.
@jefffradsham2297
@jefffradsham2297 3 жыл бұрын
If there was an award for firearm concept and development, the madsen should have been an award winner.
@thomasthygesen5949
@thomasthygesen5949 6 жыл бұрын
Just read and old danish newspaper article. Where it states: "Last shot of the Madsen". In this year (2008), the last remaining Madsen LMG. are being phased out by the Brazilian police. "An era is over"
@JerryEricsson
@JerryEricsson 6 жыл бұрын
You know my dream was to own an M-60 like I carried for a time in Nam but after looking at this unit, and the easy change of calibers, I think I will change my dream gun. I doubt I will ever be able to afford either unless I hit the lottery, and I doubt I will ever do that, as I can't afford the tickets! Thanks for the great info, I always learn something from your videos.
@Ninth_Penumbra
@Ninth_Penumbra 4 жыл бұрын
The internal components may seem pretty weird & complicated, but as soon as you comprehend the actual movements involved, it becomes a remarkably effective & elegant design (fitting the recoil movement into an incredibly small space). Despite it's apparent messy internal complexity, it also had an impressively long functional lifespan as a weapon in several militaries, implying both reliability & relative ease of maintenance under battlefield conditions. A very clever piece of machinery from the late *19th* / turn of the *20th Century.* I would love to see an evaluation & comparison of this *LMG* (gun & mechanism design) with competing: • *American **_(M1918 Browning Automatic Rifle, The Lewis Gun),_* • *British **_(Maxim gun (+), Hotchkiss M1909) &_* • *German **_(Bergmann/Schmeisser MG15 nA Gun)_* designs. (+) The Maxim, 'cause it set the ball rolling & influenced the design of many others. I don't know a hell of a lot about these early weapons, but both the Light & Heavy Machine Guns have had a seriously massive impact on warfare (& cultural conquest by European forces across Africa & Asia) from the turn of the 20th Century onwards.
@Sorenzo
@Sorenzo 6 жыл бұрын
I really like the more in-depth explanations of the functioning. At least with these unusual types of guns. The more unusual, the more details I want. :)
@johnhmstr
@johnhmstr 8 жыл бұрын
Great video. Truly a forgotten weapon worthy of note. fascinating action, while a little complicated by modern standards I feel like this is about as mechanically sound as you are going to get for the weight and size. Looking at it wear on the guide slots or pins are the only major pieces i could see breaking or wearing out in any reasonable amount of time which given the chunkiness of the parts is going to be quite some time (aka within the barrels life). keep up the good work!
@gunner678
@gunner678 6 жыл бұрын
Great gun, still in use with danish reserves into the 90s....very reliable!
@Michael_Smith-Red_No.5
@Michael_Smith-Red_No.5 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, as usual, and I'm really digging the after auction hammer price listings. It makes (some) of these items seem financially-approachable.
@yPhil
@yPhil 7 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video, very smooth watch. Thanks, Ian!
@driftingonvirtualether
@driftingonvirtualether 2 жыл бұрын
"complicated enough?" "nah, a conventional power loom with auto weft replenisher (rotary), multiple weft motion, that takes design from a double lift double jack dobby is more complicated than this" jokes aside i like how this person takes the pain to explain the mechanism of guns. I specifically looked for this gun because found this in a game called ENLISTED, and I love this gun to halt Germans pushing the point cross the river. Love this channel.
@robnunya572
@robnunya572 8 жыл бұрын
That is one elegant action, solved with proper engineering, none of that modern messing around with rotating bolts and gas piston. Thanks for the demonstration.
@KRIMZONMEKANISM
@KRIMZONMEKANISM 7 жыл бұрын
*My god, this one has a Portuguese Crest!* A portuguese crest on this particular weapon means that it was a weapon used during the Portuguese Colonial Wars, also known as *"Ultramar War"*. It was a really terrible ordeal, mostly because we had a fascist government at the time, forcing people to go into war. My grandfather went to Africa to fight in these wars, Angola or Mozambique I believe. Thankfully he never got to see any armed conflict and came back home in one piece. My dad also had to go to military duty (as it was mandatory) and he did use one of these in his training, as well as the H&K G3, that is also on this channel. He also thankfully never engaged in armed conflicts. The Ultramar War ended officially with the end of our fascist government during the 25th of April of 1974 *"Revolução dos Cravos"* (Revolution of Carnations).
@spacemanmoe5622
@spacemanmoe5622 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ian this post was very informative. Some countries in south America still use this rifle as a tactical machine gun.
@bulkbogan4320
@bulkbogan4320 8 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite channels.
@seanoconnor9466
@seanoconnor9466 8 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure my GI Joe had one. The magazine configuration was the coolest ! Man, the GI Joe. The good old days.
@Spitsz01
@Spitsz01 8 жыл бұрын
Good stuff Ian! Enjoy your site very much.
@JerryEricsson
@JerryEricsson 6 жыл бұрын
Even in todays world of miniturazation and automation, this gun is really a fantastic design. Considering the era when it was designed, makes it even more interisting. I would love a day at the range with one of these, and a case of ammo to burn, however I am sure there is no way I could afford anything you review now days. Really pisses me off though, back in the 80's when I had my FFL many of the handguns you review were readily available, but I never gave them any thought, I was busy buying my AMT Hardballer, and my AMT Automag II, or the old Luger I found in pristine condition that I let a fellow gun lover take to a gun show for me to trade for a "Modern 9mm" that I could duty carry. The fellow was so nice, he traded it for a Radam, I was quite pissed, so he gave me a wonderful fully sporterized Engfield P17 that could drill holes at 300 yards and a little Model 36 Chiefs Special by S&W. Sure wish I had that luger back and the nice and the holster she was in looked brand new with extra mag and cleaning rod, oh what a fool I was back then.
@MrAstrojensen
@MrAstrojensen 8 жыл бұрын
Gode gamle fru Madsen! "Good old Mrs. Madsen" was the nickname given to this gun by the Danish soldiers. It was replaced in the Danish army by the MG3/62.
@Snandra66
@Snandra66 8 жыл бұрын
Quite ingenious design, simple yet genious.
@raider762
@raider762 8 жыл бұрын
Brilliant design.
@Bamsefar87
@Bamsefar87 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, Madsen is pronounced with a silent 'D'! My first name is Mads, and I struggle with this all the time. I work in the turist industry, so I hear a lot of interesting interpretations of my name.
@SNOUPS4
@SNOUPS4 6 жыл бұрын
2017 new Madsen video team, reporting in!
@DA-jk7tg
@DA-jk7tg 6 жыл бұрын
New one dropped this morning.
@Chasmodius
@Chasmodius 7 жыл бұрын
6:21 Wow, what a great KER-CHUNK! That sounds incredibly satisfying to operate.
@linglingjr
@linglingjr 8 жыл бұрын
Wow the way this thing works is just plain cool. To think it was designed so early too...
@kaindestuto2053
@kaindestuto2053 8 жыл бұрын
As a dane, id love to get the background and history of this gun, as it is depicted in many photos of danish soldier in the 1930s and up to the the day of the Nazi-invasion. I find the info you give out is short and it sticks easy in the brain :) good job!
@SkolopenderDK
@SkolopenderDK 8 жыл бұрын
your danish pronunciation is correct. Keep up the good work, Ian! Greetings from a danish subscriber.
@TaZ101SAGA
@TaZ101SAGA 8 жыл бұрын
Ah, a detailed video of the Madsen! Praise the lord! Thank you. + The middle selector position D is for Decock.
@pietaushamburch6128
@pietaushamburch6128 8 жыл бұрын
Very interresting mechanics! Thx a lot for showing us! Greetings from Hamburg, Germany Piet
@jeffreyreardon7487
@jeffreyreardon7487 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent description
@attilarischt2851
@attilarischt2851 8 жыл бұрын
Actually how did you get in contact with the RIA and have them allow you to pick some of their guns apart? Were they like: Yeah you have fun and we get advertising?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 8 жыл бұрын
+Attila Rischt I showed up for one of their preview days (right before an auction, when all the guns are out for public inspection and handling by anyone interested in possibly bidding) and filmed a bunch of short videos. Those were all published after the auction was over, and they noticed the traffic from those video. At that point they got in touch with me about doing things in the lead-up to auctions.
8 жыл бұрын
+Forgotten Weapons Win - Win!
@vguyver2
@vguyver2 8 жыл бұрын
+Forgotten Weapons that is a fantastic turn of events. Also smart on their part as so many others would have turned you away despite the free advertising. I hope others are willing to facilitate more opportunities for your educational videos.
@CapnHolic
@CapnHolic 8 жыл бұрын
+Forgotten Weapons Had been wondering if you worked for them (or owned the place) and did these as a way to talk about the auction items, or just for fun on the side. Wouldn't care either way because these videos are so informative and you are a very good presenter.
@pffear
@pffear 4 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenWeapons One hand washing the other..... So it's not always a bad thing to enter a business deal with unclean hands, as long as your heart is pure.....😜 Great video Ian, as usual...... Your FW format and that of "In Range" especially the "Old West Vinegarets" are among the best out there on KZfaq, you guys have a lot to be proud of......
@huntergant6518
@huntergant6518 5 жыл бұрын
Just one word for how this weapon operates... Fascinating
@davidchadwick1892
@davidchadwick1892 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian, I've always wondered why Ian Hogg in one of his many books said " the strange thing about the Madsen, is not that it worked well, but that it worked at all" Now I understand why.
@kc5hgv
@kc5hgv 8 жыл бұрын
Strange mechanism but functional. Thanks for posting.
@metalmadsen
@metalmadsen 7 жыл бұрын
"Madsen" Said correctly 😀
@POLITICUS-DANICUS
@POLITICUS-DANICUS 7 жыл бұрын
you're correct with your pronunciation of madsen. It is indeed with a silent d. Great video, keep them comming. I really enjoy when you take a look at danish weapons.
@robertkubrick3738
@robertkubrick3738 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I never had a chance to get a good look at one of these, probably never will but at least I know what they are now.
@KB4QAA
@KB4QAA 8 жыл бұрын
Elegant design. I'm amazed this gun didn't see wider use or copying of it's mechanism.
@The_half_danish-sr8ys
@The_half_danish-sr8ys Жыл бұрын
The Rexer Arms Company of London was licensed to manufacture Madsen's guns in Great Britain and Canada. When Rexer did not comply with the agreement and also tried to sell the weapons to other countries, it was terminated and weapons and machines were withdrawn. However, Madsen was often called "Rexer" in Great Britain.
@kevinoliver3083
@kevinoliver3083 8 ай бұрын
Rexer continued to make the guns after its licence was revoked. Selling to both sides during the Mexican Civil War. So Madsen sued them for patent violation, driving them into bankruptcy. Reputedly, the Rexers were never as reliable as the original Madsens.
@VegasCyclingFreak
@VegasCyclingFreak 8 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool design!
@EnderLord007
@EnderLord007 6 жыл бұрын
You can see the aspects of the design that lent to its longevity. It's a compact action with relatively few moving parts, is able to be easily disassembled for maintenance, and is able to be easily swapped for different calibers. As a bonus, it looks like something someone in the Star Wars prop department might pick up and turn into a cool space rifle.
@bumblebee7838
@bumblebee7838 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the video! That was highly interesting and entertaining.
@EnjoyCocaColaLight
@EnjoyCocaColaLight 4 жыл бұрын
What an amazing piece. I want ten!
@Pow3llMorgan
@Pow3llMorgan 8 жыл бұрын
Instant upvote for correct pronunciation!
@lucasvisser3864
@lucasvisser3864 7 ай бұрын
That's fascinating. I wonder if I could make a very compact SMG design with that concept.
@marcusryan3711
@marcusryan3711 3 жыл бұрын
Så fascinerende! Mange tak!
@troy9477
@troy9477 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting design, if a bit complicated. Sounds like it has stood the test of time. Ingenious that the barrel and breech are one unit for easy changing. Sounds like this one is an 8x57? That would make sense in Europe. Madsen products seem popular in South America. A lot of their SMG's are still seen down there, reputedly. Great video as always. Thank you
@Lobsterboy1776
@Lobsterboy1776 8 жыл бұрын
Great video and well made detailed description of the function of the madsen LMG. Very interesting gun. LMGs could have had a big impact on WW I
@GooseMugs
@GooseMugs 3 жыл бұрын
Damn impressed by your pronunciation! Almost like hearing a Dane!
@MichaelLonetto
@MichaelLonetto 7 ай бұрын
Not quite as steampunk as the belt fed you just showed in Nov 2023, but awesome to see how an engineer in 1902 solved a problem for 48 years plus.
@Nukle0n
@Nukle0n 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the correct pronunciation :D Also nice video as always.
@doos6172
@doos6172 6 жыл бұрын
This video is in a museum in Denmark. Gj mate
@Dobbo2958
@Dobbo2958 8 жыл бұрын
Love your video's great style and content. Thanks.... Mark
@Sonofavenger
@Sonofavenger 6 жыл бұрын
Such a satisfying sound at 6:20.
@MrHws5mp
@MrHws5mp 8 жыл бұрын
I always liked Ian V.Hogg's comment about the Madsen: "the wonder is not that it worked well, but that it worked at all". :-)
@Mamurai
@Mamurai 8 жыл бұрын
Ian, I still wonder why these guns are not more known. Are you going to review some of the more special ones, like motorcycle mounted? Also, what about the Madsen-Rasmussen M1896 self-loading rifle etc. Any chance we will see you review those at one point? Amazing channel btw. I like how you incorporate the history into your videos as well.
@QuartzChrysalis
@QuartzChrysalis 4 жыл бұрын
This is a really good system.
@aethertech
@aethertech 8 жыл бұрын
This is almost as interesting as the over-under shotgun from the september episode. good mechanics on this lmg.
@deanarupe73
@deanarupe73 5 жыл бұрын
I love the look of this gun.
@qualquerdomundo
@qualquerdomundo 5 жыл бұрын
It was used in Brazil for many years in 7mm mauser caliber. Very reliable and efficient. Now it is used by the Rio de Janeiro Police in .308.
@larryfontenot9018
@larryfontenot9018 8 жыл бұрын
That's... what?... about 4 to 6 moving parts? Remarkable. Many automatic weapons from that period were overly complex and had too many parts, all designed to tolerances that made dirt a major foe to efficient operation. Tearing down just to clean them could require a college degree for some weapons. Rasmussen did a miraculous job designing that bolt assembly; it's far ahead of its time.
@MrBandholm
@MrBandholm 8 жыл бұрын
+Larry Fontenot And that is also showed in the long servic life this gun had. Sometimes I wonder if the danes started looking at those old systems, that some really interesting new guns would be made
@Franky46Boy
@Franky46Boy 7 жыл бұрын
How a rather complicated system can work so effective... :-)
@firepower9966
@firepower9966 6 жыл бұрын
Great design like the luger of LMG got it right at start and unusual mechanics.
@AussieJok
@AussieJok 8 жыл бұрын
Very cool gun, thanks Ian...
@MrTowelsplug
@MrTowelsplug 3 жыл бұрын
Just shot a semiautomatic conversion of this the other day. Amazing gun!!!!
@MrTowelsplug
@MrTowelsplug 3 жыл бұрын
The Chilean version idnhit had reciprocating charge handle, baby flies forward like butter. Some guy in Illinois is rebuilding cuts to spec. 30-06 ammo from greek powder and shell company 1967 was firing beautifully through her rebuild system. Cali conversion made the flash hider get some holes and the operation perma-set to semi but damn whata gun! The range master came over like "that's not BAR? what's going on with this thing?"
@Sean_Coyne
@Sean_Coyne 8 жыл бұрын
How does the Madsen stack up against the Bren gun mechanically? My father had to use the Bren, which he liked a lot (the gun, not being shot at or stuck in a hole facing Germans) but he once said it was kinda too accurate at times. As when the shit hit the fan and you were getting rushed, you tended to just get one guy instead of more. Weird, and I'm not really sure if he was pulling my leg, looking back..but that's what he said and he was a fine shot, much better than me.
@paulmanson253
@paulmanson253 8 жыл бұрын
I do not think he was pulling your leg. One comment I heard from a WW2 vet was that a Bren carrier in motion helped spread the shots around,and that a Bren was if anything too accurate.He was HLI,skirmishing and intelligence.Find the bad guys,shoot those giving orders,pass on where they are. His shooting scores were posted regularly in the town weekly paper.Not a man to disbelieve.He taught me to shoot.
@jameshay7247
@jameshay7247 5 жыл бұрын
Some took worn-out Bren barrels into combat, for better shot dispersion. I suspect that was France 1944 , not North Africa.
@Rasbiff
@Rasbiff 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulmanson253 Can't you just wiggle the gun around a little to get a nice cone of fire?
@AgentTasmania
@AgentTasmania 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rasbiff Full auto in full-power cartridges will usually do that for you even on a bipod
@Joric78
@Joric78 8 жыл бұрын
Out of purely academic interest, what does "not fully transferrable" mean exactly?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 8 жыл бұрын
+Joric78 Short version is that a transferrable on is one that any citizen can purchase and own. Non-transferrable guns, commonly called dealer samples, can only be owned by federally-licensed machine gun dealers. The idea is that such people need a way to own modern machine guns for R&D and for demonstrating to potential clients in military and law enforcement.
@Joric78
@Joric78 8 жыл бұрын
+Forgotten Weapons Cheers. ...and I assume becoming a federally licensed machine gun dealer isn't as straight forward as asking nicely?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 8 жыл бұрын
+Joric78 Actually, it kinda is. If you have a business and meet the requirements (secure storage, local zoning, etc) it's a pretty straightforward process.
@Joric78
@Joric78 8 жыл бұрын
+rich5562000 Heh. Wasn't sure which side you were coming from for a bit there, with the "The US has ridiculous machine gun laws" line. Yeah, the idea of roving gangs armed with valuable antiques seems ridiculous in the US. Not so much in Bougainville.
@baron8107
@baron8107 8 жыл бұрын
+rich5562000 YOU! I like you. You can stay.
@brunocarmo6974
@brunocarmo6974 7 жыл бұрын
Very cool gun!
@lv2943
@lv2943 8 жыл бұрын
A 20lb 30-06 sub-machine gun. I knew Danes could be big guys but that's impressive.
@jameslawrie3807
@jameslawrie3807 3 жыл бұрын
It would be wonderful if Ian could do another video on the Madsen going further into its history and use using the footage from his three videos on the weapon.
@Ungabungabraincell
@Ungabungabraincell 8 жыл бұрын
Cool! I'm surprised this didn't get into "top to reproduce" list from your November Q&A
@Ungabungabraincell
@Ungabungabraincell 8 жыл бұрын
+John D. As a semi auto of course
@MadSpectro7
@MadSpectro7 8 жыл бұрын
Exactly what a "first of its kind" should be. Odd and rather complex but very well thought out.
@numberpirate
@numberpirate 8 жыл бұрын
Wicked cool, thanks Ian.
@jaksoe
@jaksoe 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. My grandfather built Madsen-guns at DISA ("The Rifle Syndicate") in Copenhagen and in 1942 he won a 1st prize in the their shooting club (called "The Recoil") - the prize was a statue of a soidier with the Madsen-gun at his hip. I have that now as a memory. I was told the Madsen-gun was special, since it's parts were fully replaceabel with spareparts apparently unlike most other models, that took some modification to fit perfectly - do you have any info on that?
@Angelum_Band
@Angelum_Band 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine designing this without dynamic autocad then you will appreciate the clockwork mastery of this era.
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