Poor Aerys I. I actually like him a lot. One of my favourite Targaryens.

In GM's defense, aside from the Third Blackfyre Rebellion where Maekar showed 'leadership' there isn't much recorded as of now of what Maekar was up to under his brother's reign.

You're correct! I misspoke in the video, I think my instinct was to think that he was second behind Baelor just because the two of them are so often paired together.

And, though improbable, it's a situation not without precedent in our history. Louis XV of France was the third son of a third son (if I remember correctly!) and certainly not expected to succeed his great-grandfather, Louis XIV. It's a fascinating turn of events, including little Louis being hidden by his governess during an outbreak of measles, to prevent the "maesters" from bleeding him as they did his older brother, the dauphin, who died.

@@shelleyj3704 Louis XV was a third son, but his father and grandfather were both eldest sons. Though all of Louis XIV's sons, and all but one of his grandsons, died before him, so it was a close-run thing.

Thank you! I hate when people overlook important canon in videos that are supposed to explain important canon lol

Would I be right to assume you were also thinking that Baelor and Maekar's relationship was similar to that of Robert and Stannis?

More like "Baelor's helm"💀💀

Viserys II and Jaehaerys the old

So all siblings?

He’s great at writing siblings all together.

Yes but then Maekar when he became King keeps Bloodraven as Hand because he’s so good at the job. Aery I made the right call IMO

Stannis was mad at Robert for not naming him hand after Jon Arryn died, but he (Stannis) also fled Kings Landing because he thought the Lannisters were after him after the death of Jon Arryn and both men knowing about Jaime and Cersi's incest.

Yep. Alaric is the most Stannis character George has, by a mile.

Maekar was a 4th son

I honestly don't buy the whole "Viserys II poisoned Baelor" thing, Baelor was already 41 days into his fasting and was planning on fasting for even longer, so I don't think Viserys would need to do anything for him to die, on top of that, that's assuming Viserys wanted Baelor dead, and from what we know he was cool with him, and the theory that he did it cause "Baelor was about to launch a crusade" goes against Baelors character seeing as he left the Ironborn and the North alone for most of his reign and George himself has admitted that Baelor would rather pray than ever raise his fists, so going on a crusade seems like a DRASTIC thing to do without anything in the middle maybe pushing him to (At least with Aegon the conqueror taking over all of Westeros and Aegon V doing summerhal, George has confirmed that Aegon dreamt of the long night and saw that his family needed to be in charge to save the world, which all things considered, seems like a pretty good reason to take over a continent, and as for Aegon V, we have theories and evidence that he might have read or dreamed about the long night coming one way or another (Bloodraven maybe or maybe not being involved) and also learned that they needed dragons, so he then decided that killing a few family members to save the world was worth it, which again, all things considered, pretty good (Or at least understandable) motivation to do what he did), and that's all without mentioning that the rumors that Viserys poisoned Baelor probs came from Aegon IV projecting what he did to his father in an attempt to put attention away from himself kinslaying to take over the throne and more towards his father, the ONLY way I can see Viserys II poisoning Baelor, is if Viserys came to become sick and tired of having to rule the realm with monarchs that didn't give him his proper due or even hindered his efforts and decided them dying was for the best (Still a stretch, he clearly didn't care for the limelight and it doesn't seem like they hindered him that much), OR, if Baelor did go from peace and love to fire and blood through misinterpreting a dragon dream thinking it was a message from the seven (Or something along those lines) and Viserys learned about it and put him down as a result (Although odds are Baelor died of starvation and Aegon IV spread rumors that Viserys II did it, cause he REALLY liked to spread bullshit rumors throughout his reign)

"The targaryen succession has never been peaceful." Aegom V, jajaerys II and aerys seems pretty peaceful. Sure aegon v died in a fire but it was an accident.

Yeah i was confused as well, because 'Egg', the unlikley is called that because he is the 4th son of a 4th son. Maybe Quinn can correct it somehow.

Basically Richard the Lionheart and Alexander the Great fused into one lol

He is, Aerys I and I think Rhaegal were both older

@@RedHairedWarlordyeah still a great vid

I definitely get Bloodraven interference vibes, seeing as Breakspear seems been much harder to to manipulate than his brothers.

@@QuinnTheGM Then I'm not crazy haha. Good.

nevermind you've already made it my bad

Huh, glad to hear that! This one was actually recorded on my phone, as I was on vacation while making it.

I went all over! Started in Dublin, then went to Belfast for a day or so, and then over to County Donegal, which is where my family is from.

@@QuinnTheGM Lovely! At least you didn't stay only in Dublin as some tourists do, you got to see some of the countryside and small towns. That's how you get a proper feel for the country.

Daeron is a low ambition alcoholic because of his prophetic dreams. Don't think there's much any father could do about that.

Maekar is Daeron’s 4th born son. Baelor ‘Breakspear’ Rhaegel, Aerys I, then Maekar. Then Maekar has a bunch of kids, Egg being his 4th.

Just jealous of Peake Performance

@@QuinnTheGM most famous one name is literally Unwin which is a fancy name for Loser

Winning the battle of ice, dying or sacrificing himself to the others shortly thereafter.

@@QuinnTheGM Based take

Some would bad luck. Others say it was the Three Eyed Raven or R’hollor manipulated the events so that TPTWP would come. Remember how The Wood Witch said from the bloodline of Aerys II and Rhaella would come TPTWP. The only way to get their descendants on the Throne was to get Egg on the Throne

When in doubt blame Bloodraven

Hosteen Frey has the intelligence of a brick, you see.

He had two nicknames!

@@QuinnTheGM oh ok. I just never heard "The Hammer." Learn something every day.

Maennis

Vacationing for the first time in a few years!

@@QuinnTheGM awsome man enjoy!

I feel like Stannis is haunted by Renly a fair bit, most obviously in the scene discussing his peach.

@@QuinnTheGM he keeps it well hidden at the least