Thank you thank you! I really wanted this to happen! I'm glad you represented us!

I'm just surprised prof didn't talk about pauper.

Thanks for doing this! As someone who used to watch the Yu-Gi-Oh anime as a kid but never got into the card game it's really interesting to get a distillation of what the game flow & culture is like and how that compares to Magic. It was interesting to see the difference in approach towards card draw and makes me thing how broken something like "Once Upon a Time" would be if it was made in Yu-Gi-Oh.

Great episode! Both Konami and WotC can learn a thing or 2 from each other

I LOVE this collab!

Lol too good☝️

Did he finish his VFD + Chuche + Shenshen + Crystal Wing Virtual World combo

lmao truth

@@no_suk9851 a messed Rare footage

Modern YGO in a nutshell wow

I feel like it would be really fun. And to see then bring other magic players into the ring, maybe even Mark Rosewater considering gow outgoing he appears to be in everything I have seen. I can see people from Loading Ready Run play, as they play a variety of board games and some card games, I can see them enjoying Yugioh too even if it takes them a bit to get going.

Yes

Yess that would be cool

That’d be dope!

I watch both channels and play both games and really wanna see this happen

They legitimately lie in the anime by making up effects and bs’ing rules

Attack the moon, swords of revealing light and cuz monsters if you want to know

Flamboyant Warlock “number monsters can only be destroyed by other number monsters” that definitely wasn’t a rule at all

Flamboyant Warlock alright that’s an acceptable answer

From the original, no From Arc-V and Vrains, yes. But you won't like Arc-V.

Yunno

@Forest Edge Avengers: Endgame, you know the biggest box office movie of all time

@@changhyon92 its avatar

Endgame still is no Crossover.

Draco Meteors Yeah...I feel like it’s not a “REAL” crossover. Like Marvel crossing with themselves? Doesn’t sound like a crossover, but then again, it’s somewhat a crossover, a semi-crossover if you will.

Same here, I never even imagined anything like that before in card games, especially with how crazy fans can get.

Yo I love your channel and am really looking forward to more vids from you!

There's a monkey paw to Wizards being visible online. They can be so tone deaf with complaints at times that maybe being silent like Nintendo or Konami might be better tact

Wizards of the Coast is a full American company while Konami is mostly a Japanese company. The differences in language, culture, and location makes things more complicated. Personally, I'm more on the "players don't know what they're talking about most of the time" camp anyways.

Imagine believing that Konami, a gambling oriented company, would spend time communicating about their children's gambling product. Enjoy your endless cycle of 3 year long commercials.

But god if it was triff gaming.... That'd be the best

@@isnanesavant we would just hear every other sentance BEACUSE PEND BEST DECK

Or cimoooo

Paul is Yugi Muto (Little Yugi) Just a nice dude

@@crotair1089 yes

he seemed baffled 😭i feel so bad for yugioh players

and then we got 30th anniversary :D

@@onedae7587 wish they ran polls like Jagex

@@joel17721 Doesn’t really change much to be fair

reporting after magic 30th 4 packs for $1000 here. Hasbro gives none about us.

And mostly for free via some "sub type" of special summoning (Synchro Summon, Xyz Summon, Pendulum Summon, etc.) these days.

Imagine having 15 companions...

and it doesn't take a side deck slot

It's Yu-Gi-Oh!'s Command Zone.

@@brendaneichler5244 except they don't go back there when killed

Excuse me we like to call them Komoney lol

con-a-mi

you mean silent hill fans?

Godamn, somehow komoney managa to fuck 3 of my fandoms...

You mean Castlevania?

After the SJW crap Wizards loves shoving in their games, no one likes them anymore.

Strixhaven was so obviously pandering to the sjw crowd with genderfluid mages and other topical artwork. When they lost me the first time it was with the avengers I mean Planeswalkers that was pretty cringe but the eldrazi were cool. Wizards needs to realize that the loud minority they see on social media isn't their customers. Their customers are nerds that like things that are cool and interesting. Wizards used to make cool inspired cards but they make so much lame stuff now.

@@philithegamer8265 takes like these are so fucking bad

@@Austin-xp2tk i have never seen strixhaven like that. But even if it was, why is that such a big problem? You get pandered to all the time

@@martijnlerutte8826 idk strixhaven was lame

Lol

and counter, it has counters, well and removal, well i think it has everything in 1 single deck XD

@@elladan23 unless it's a bad or more "dedicated" control deck like Mystic Mine or Secret Village of the spellcasters. We call these "floodgates" in Yu-Gi-Oh, but anyways we basically sometimes get a Staxx type deck in meta/counter-meta that shuts off entire game mechanics. Basically, the only way to justify not doing everything is to play a deck with control against those entire mechanics you don't like.

Geez. As a magic player all I can say is "aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!"

aydooknow well there is some cards with great art work though, I play both games honestly

Honestly, I half agree. Yugioh, that isn't mystic mine reminds me of a storm deck..... you have the counters if needed. And once you pop off, its game.

They have pretty similar personality if you think about it

I came here to say the exact same thing. I did a double take when I saw The Professor post about this on Twitter.

Right!? I had to do a double take. Love both these guys

Many magic the gathering players ask... why tho

@@javier6283 wow your life seems miserable.

Magic Players stop being toxic real fast after you send them to the Shadow Realm!

I NEVER UNDERTAND WHY THAT HAPPENS I LOVE MAGIC YUGIOH POKEMON DIGIMON BAKUGAN AND ARE MY FAVORITE 5 (I PLAY LIKE 20 DIFFERENT TCG BUT MOST DONT HAVE OTHER PLAYERS OR ARE KINDA DEAD T.T)

How can you be disrespectful? Would be pathetic fighting over plastic cards,

I think the people who hate Yugioh the most are former and current Yugioh players anyway

@@garagavia hey now it had to be stolen before becoming worth that much.

@@garagavia it is oil on poplar wood board.

Then again, the extradeck improved the game.

@@megalithphul9542 And is now the reason the game is doomed.

@@megalithphul9542 ehh it's had had a couple of blunders here and there, namely, way too many boss monsters with effect negations that are easy to summon back to back because of very generic summoning requirements.

Anyone that says that yugioh is doomed just don't know anything about the game

@@fightinggamesandchill.5660 That's a pretty harsh statement here. Tell me a way in which this game can avoid going into an excalation of negates and counter-negates. Is doomed in the sense that 50% of the times is not even a game since the other person does not play. Is doomed in the sense that Konami will always want to go higher and higher... Cards that make the opponent skip main phases, that lock the extra deck, that banish from extra deck, then what? Cards that makes you special summon a monster from opponent's extra deck? Cards that make you shuffle your extra deck in your main deck and when you draw a monster you can summon it? Yu-gi-oh is going nowhere near a healthy game state. The only thing I could think of is to make so many cards that negate extra deck, that the meta will have to shift back to resorting to the main deck because now the opponent can lock you out too easily and you need main deck boss monsters. But don't tell me I don't know anything about the game, just try to prove your point with actual arguments. I expect an answer

Someone hasnt played against Evilswarms

Bold of you to assume any Yugioh player can read

I want to play commander for mtg that’s about it but I mainly play yugioh

@@brandondowdy4220 same here standard and modern are kind of similar to yugioh in the way the decks and combos are played but commander it's an entirely different experience

Sadly your Yu-Gi-Oh assumption is wrong The most common stereotype of Yu-Gi-Oh, as far as I know, is that none of them read anything.

underrated comment

the fact that i actually have this card makes me laugh at this.

As lotus combo player : like...every match ?

Yes

And everything has Haste

Really!? How ? they just talked about it in a such a bad way hahah but I’m glad u like it !

Glad to have you back lol

Nooo, brother, save yourself before it's too late!

Eww. Yu gi oh.

@@johnathanera5863 show some respect, for our cardboard collegues bro…

Except there isn't a punishment if the Prof goes negative by 100 bucks. I hope Larry keeps his good luck streak.

That and sealed only yugioh to an extent

That would be great. Although, modern Yu Gi Oh is insane to teach 😛

@@cylonsteve2511 Amen. I tried teaching Yugioh to a bunch of people back in high school, but only 4-6 actually learned it. The rest were absolutely confused and swore I just kept making rules up. Switching to MTG was hard, but I think it's much easier to learn for beginners. If you played Yugioh a ton though, it makes it a lot harder.

The way you teach yugioh is you explain the summoning mechanics (synchro is addition, xyz is two of the same, link is arrows, etc) then you ask for their favourite aesthetics and choose a deck that matches it If they like cute things, Madolche. If they like mechanical, Rokkets or Salamangreat. Because if you specifically teach how to play the deck they like first the mechanics become easier to digest

@@cylonsteve2511 I don't think it would be that hard since both of them play card games for years already, and the people that watch their videos too. It could not be a 10min video but I'm sure that both Yu-Gi-Oh! players can learn MTG and MTG players can learn Yu-Gi-Oh! easily.

@@00031849 Perhaps you're right. I play both and taught both over two separate lunch beaks in work. Of course there was a lot more for them to learn, but the basics were covered.

Well... that’s an accurate analogy.

yugioh is multiverse chess in comparison

@@ConeTheBoss559 You failed to realize how FAST you died in UMVC3 with a Lv 3 X-Factor Vergil. Like one happy birthday could kill your ENTIRE team in 10 seconds.

@@zhaoyun255 interesting

@@ConeTheBoss559 Just ONE MISTAKE, ONE FREAKING MISTAKE!!! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kMqRhraH3cyapok.html

Good comparison

That actually makes sense. Great analogy.

truee

Sir cedh and vintage decks can win turñ1 some even before turn 1 even modern doesnt exceed turn 3 anymore it is just not slow anymore

@@annajansen5280 commander is still slow and commander is what everyone in my area plays.

Isaac Soong “occasionally”

Magic (again): Haha, green blue cards go brrr

Magic is going down the same path with its recents bans

3 months later: hehe, banlist go brrrrr

@@chexmix0101 remember sets are designed up to two years in advance so if they listen and do power down sets we won't see it till late 2022. Then again, people were pissed about ixalan cuz it was so weak compared to kaladesh. (Still hoping it gets powered down to that level)

just for it to end up mid the second BRO dropped

@@rczg Truuuuu

And it turns out that it's hardly even good enough for pioneer let alone modern and legacy lmfao

​@@asdfghjkl2261power creep be a bitch like that.

One thing I think Yugioh suffers from is lack of keywords. The original card that did the equivalent of trample spelled it out ("when this monster destroys a defense position monster in battle, inflict damage to your opponent equal to the difference between this card's attack and that monster's defense" or something like that). It was eventually changed to piercing damage, except from what I've seen it still spells out that the attacker is attacking a defense monster ("when this monster attacks a defense position monster, it deals piercing damage" or something like that). There are many cards that have hexproof or indestructible or protection variants, and some are similar to another. But there is no single word/short phrase for "this monster cannot be the target of effects your opponent controls." One interesting thing I do really admire about Yugioh is how they use names of cards as archetypes and mechanics. Magic's rules don't allow you to tutor for an archetype the way Yugioh does; Yugioh lets you play a Blackwing monster, or requires you to have a Nordic monster using cards that specify the presence of that word in the card name. Magic doesn't have such an equivalent, but it would be as though it says to tutor for an Orzhov card (defining it as White & Black OR has the Orzhov watermark OR has the Orzhov mechanic).

180 words to describe what a card does if the card is named Endymion (pendulum)

@@Barracius lack of keywords along with the small text box and small font is the main reason I don't play Yugioh I can't afford to sit down and look at a card with a microscope for 15 min to try to understand AND remember what it does

OMG this! i played that trash game for ten years and still would get blindsided by BS rulings on effects that no one but a top end lawyer with several PHD's could understand on almost every single game!

@@Barracius The reason why it lack of keywords is due to the Japanese culture, where Yu-Gi-Oh is meant I know with any YGO player they won't agree with this, "It is meant to tell you want to do overall so if you're a new player you don't get discouraged as the effect tells you what you need to do and what happens" I think before it was fine since cards weren't essays long effects, but with power creep and the games evolution it has gotten out of hand overall. I don't think any game is easy seeing how chess is hard to get into Shogi the Japanese chess game is the same way thinking about the moves and studying other people

Came here to say that

And he doesn't even know the most expensive copy is 5.9 million. Woulda been hysterical to see that reaction

Exception that proves the rule ;)

Mana Drain came out in Legends dude.

Well... What about Force of Will/ Negation or Pact of Negation

with mana burn it wasn't strictly better, but now of course.

To be fair; Mana Drain was printed as a bad Counterspell, so the point does still hold up.

Haha Pokémon has no game only cool cards

Get jwittz!

Pokemon is too meta based. There aren't really any variety for competitive decks. Although you can say that about any card game, but I feel like pokemon is more meta game focused than other card games. Most stage 2 evolution decks are unplayable in competitive play since they take too long to set up vs a GX/V based deck.

Would love to see Joe from omnipoke

@@kongvang5359 i think that's mostly because Pokemon doesn't really have well defined color identities asides from fire pokemon dealing big damage while discarding energy, but everything that we see on a particular type will be seen in another type, example xyz energy transfer aromatisse can be done by quagsire and i think a starmie or golduck, ehrr golduck break? card from who knows what set, and then metal has like a bronzong or magnezone that's basically the same card for steel energy, so there's an strategy that's widely known as the best but different types will do it at different times, currently the one that's doing it is ADP, but well i'm not too well-versed in Pokemon tcg to go further in depth

Seconded! Also yugioh is slowing growing to have more of a 2nd format now that Edison events are being sanctioned by Konami.

Short answer it give you too much ressource Long answer it draws two cards

It's a weak version of Ancestral Recall.

@@solidkingcobra Idk, Zero mana draw two cards seems pretty good to me!

Love this comment.

@@solidkingcobra *zero mana* draw 2

AliOf TheSand IK. It sucks cause I want to know who's drawing my favourite cards

Wow really

They started doing that on newer set actually

Aeris yeah i for one don’t really care. Lol I mean I guess they deserve the recognition but I’d never actually then look at that artist’s work.

That's probably because they don't want their competitors to get the info who did the art for the cards. Plus it wouldn't fit on the card since there is too much text.

Magic creeps down non-creatures but creatures are aways being creeped up. I have no doubts that in 10 years from now we'll have some absurdly powerful creatures that will make need for powerful spells to return.

Magic has more of a complexity creep

Would be sick!! But as a magic player I would prefer a dark magician in MTG than a Jace in Yu GI oh

A Yugi/Kaiba planeswalker. 0.0

​@@andressanchezhernandez5244 we don't need Jace in yugioh. But a blightsteel collosus would be fun as shit. Or krenko and his goblin shenanigans. And yes I realize endless goblin tokens is annoying but thankfully in yugioh it'd be limited to 5.

☺

More like T0 kills with Dredge. And that's why we play modern!

Doesn't open hand trap *visable sadness*

Ayy you can 2nd turn kill in magic with manaless dredge

@@EvlEgle How many?

@@EvlEgle also reverse 1 round kills.

Ikr modern horizons came to mind too. those whole sets were busted

He is definently one of my favorite youtubers. He got me back into playing Yugioh years ago. I can't wait for ky locals to start doing tournaments again

Haha. This was funny.

I think a major reason why people play yugioh is because we like to imagine ourselves as protagonist or antagonist with our favorite archetypes beating down others.

Wholesome comment award

The letters IP not being used for IP address if you guys are thinking that. This comment isn't to you zztzgza. And are you saying that Konami will kill their workers if they try to leave or get fired?

@@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris In konami's case specifically that wouldn't be surprising, but no, it's common for companies to try and blacklist you from the industry if you try to quit your job on your own terms.

@@gackybass Some of them do worse than that. They steal your ideas and brand it as their own. Looking at you Amazon. When a worker of Amazon creates their own game or anything Amazon takes it.

Had my man S H O O K

Maro is a one-man PR machine. He basically answers hundreds of questions per day, just from his blog alone

Nice real man threre =)

Watch videos to learn and downlod duel links

So here's the thing with yu-gi-oh, you don't necessarily have to know the whole game or every stratergy. You basically just learn the one or two strats the your deck uses, and then you know almost every card you're going to play, and the order you're going to play them in, for every duel. It's pretty stale tbh

@@florencefaulkner782 that's scrub mentality. While you can win matches knowing 2 combos your deck does, the game is not only that. That's like saying "oh yes just put reclamation up and explosion during end step. It's pretty stale" or "keep any hand with monastery Swiftspear and bolt and you will win most games". To top an event, mtg or ygo you require much more than knowing in which order you play your cards and which cards to counter.

@@cortana_ I know it's more than /just/ knowing the meta and being able to afford the best cards, I was definitely simplifying a bit. I do stand by my point though, it least in my opinion I found the game v stale, haven't tried magic yet but I might give it a go to see how it differs

Just play mystic mine lol

Painful Choice is #1, it wins on resolution basically.

I'd personally say it'd be Painful Choice Pot of Greed Graceful Charity Sixth Sense Confiscation Delinquent Duo Snatch Steal Change of Heart Forceful Sentry Meanwhile, Fiber Jar is a Shahrazad equivalent and Raigeki is the Sol Ring (in that it's as powerful as some of these yet keeps getting printing and is somehow legal). I'd say Maxx C, Soul Charge etc. are more Skullclamp/Tolarian Academy kinda deals, being equally busted but not from the start of the game

@@mantislazuli I think I put it on there in one I made a few weeks ago. What would you swap it out for?

I haven’t played Yugioh in years and don’t know most of these cards but I feel like Monster Reborn should be on the list

@@toothpicks205 You'd be surprised that that card is meh, now. It is off the banlist now actually.

I agree! Im a yugioh player but I have some Magic cards that a friend gave me almost 20 years ago but I never actually played. I like how this guy talks because he wants to make sure you understand the point he tries to get across. I genuinely like that he wants what’s best for the players and , in effect, the game

His videos are rather informative and go in great depth when learning to play.

Charbelcher: I'm with them

haha black lotus + lurrus goes brrrr

oops all spells

Man it's crazy to think that you can really just play magic without any lands if you wanna go that far. man dredge was a good name for that mechanic cuz playing no lands sounds dark and backwards.

What is Dredge? I just played MtG from Unlimited to Ice Age.

I agree. I never played Pokémon but I collected then then moved to Yu-Gi-Oh and played it a few times and now I play Magic the Gathering commander with friends

Same here

Yeah. I'm getting more into Magic from Yu-Gi-Oh. Finding out how much Foil is disliked in magic is weird. Seems like WoTC doesn't get it. Although I think Pokemon does foil well.

@@jessArcade is cause wizards foiling technique for cards Suck compared to pokemon and ygo

Magic foils arent any worse than pokemon or yugioh foils. Every foil, from every game, has a metal "foil" layer in them to make them shine. Over time moisture in the air causes the cardboard to expand slightly while the foil inside the card wont expand, causing the card to curve or bow a bit. For competative play, cards that bow or curve (99% caused beacause its foil) are counted as "marked cards" and can be disqualified from your deck. With that explained, magics foils arent worth much more that their non foil varient in most cases not all cases.

I guess what I mean is magic hosts a billion more tournaments and local friday magic nights locally. And you just dont want people to worry about you cutting straight to a card in your deck

@@mashafasha5796 You arent wrong but you arent 100% right either. The EU, America and Japan all get different kind of foiled cards (Talking about YGO). European cards are known to bend faster and more than the American. The way the cards are made is a big factor. Your statement about tournaments is just wrong. You get a game loss if your cards are slightly bend or even one corner of your sleeve is damaged. Even though this is a big fear, YGO player still love having decks at full max rarity. Frankly, you just seem to like to justify bad foiled cards.

Yes, but (...)

You play MTG and Yugioh? My god man, have mercy on your wallet.

I'm not surprised Yu-Gi-Oh players would seem to switch more because of one thing, Yu-Gi-Oh is more accessible thus more people leave it. It makes sense because a lot more people come in through the TV shows and it's more played in schools and such the main route to getting into MtG nowadays is probably other card games. Yu-Gi-Oh players also mostly seem intrigued by MtGs number of formats, the only common reason to switch to Yu-Gi-Oh from MtG is being upset is standard balance, which is less common just because they might just temporarily switch to a different format.

Wow, that's a perfect analogy. I played Yu-Gi-Oh way back in the day, but have family who still play and it definitely seems like Yu-Gi-Oh seems more like a 's/he who connects first wins' type of thing. I prefer Magic (and SF) for the idea of small incremental gains and grinding through a match to hopefully win by the end. Seriously, you should be proud of that analogy, it's a really good one, lol.

As a long-term yugioh player (got into the game competitively right around the time of rulers/spellbooks), I can't really agree that rogue strategies are viable. They might be playable if other people are playing rogue or incomplete/sub-optimal meta decks, but from my experience, even back in the day during like, tellaknight/shaddoll/nekroz/qliphorts (my favorite meta of all time), rogue decks were very outclassed. You could play them and possibly win, but the matchups were never better than 60-40 (usually worse), meaning that if you wanted to win realistically you had to pick a meta deck. I will say, though, that rogue decks are almost always way more interactive than the top-tier meta. On that note, aside from format's, the actual gameplay of yugioh has devolved a lot over the years. Almost every single top-tier deck became a vomit-hand-onto-the-field deck, some of the only exceptions in the last few YEARS were sky striker and true draco, but those decks were so incredibly power-creeped that it was impossible to compete with them outside of meta (that's probably the only reason that they were able to beat the combo decks in the first place lol. Full power true draco can go hand to hand, if not beat, full-power dragon rulers, which is REALLY hard to do in a grind game). Hand traps have become a staple of every single matchup, and a game can end before it even begins if you happen to not draw one, meaning that some games just feel like a lost coin flip (obviously it's not true all of the time, games can still be really interactive if both players stop the other from going off, but unfortunately it doesn't feel like it's enough in the majority). There's just very little decks that try to interact aside from running 1/3 of the deck as the exact same hand traps that every other deck runs, meaning variety is at an all time low, and unfortunately it has been that way for the last few years. If maxx C ever gets unbanned, almost every single deck will play 3 copies if it, if not in the main then definitely in the side. There are too many staples in yugioh nowadays that are requirements for playing in even local tournaments. Magic on the other hand, has none of that. The standard format is constantly changing so you always feel like there's new stuff happening. If you get tired of that format, like the professor noted, you can just try a different format - probably even reusing most of your cards. Also there are self-policed formats like commander that are also multiplayer, something yugioh doesn't have and I'm not sure ever will. Yugioh might be balanced decently well from a skill perspective, in that you can win fairly consistantly if you are a good player, but that only mean's it's a better sport, not a better game. If you want to have fun, I can't recommend yugioh over magic anymore. Not unless konami makes some MASSIVE changes to the game, or you somehow manage to find a playgroup that is willing to play decks back from like 4+ years ago. Any format where hand traps are a necessity means that the game is too fast. You can argue against it, but in a game with no mulligans and an incredibly amount of consistency during your turn, relying on drawing specific cards to not "lose" the game before it's ever your turn (yea you don't actually die, but playing through 5 interruptions against a field that can kill you on the following turn is unrealistic) is not a good experience for players trying to enjoy a game of yugioh. | PS: I really wish magic would adopt the term floodgate. Magic players call the cards stax pieces, yugioh players call them floodgates. I find it to be so much more fitting as to what the card actually does to the flow of the game. It's a wall that's holding back the massive explosion of combos/value-trains that are stuck behind it.

You remember sky strikers ??? Lol

Me too

both are good in their way but I fucking hate companions and pendulum !@#$

@@pantanom18 Pendulums have been nerfed or banned. They are not really a problem any more

@@erychfrankenfield5301 link monsters are now the problem

@@doncon_380 Not really. It is more archetypes rather than summoning mechanics. Links got nerfed by "rules change april 2020" or as the yugioh community calls it master rule 5.

Well at least Strides won't be dying...

@@4GRJ bruh power creep still 😂 like your clan gets an update and its only good for like 2-3 months

Yeah, that's V era in a nutshell. Hopefully Overdress doesn't face the same issue.

@@SparkShadow212 A TCG company so incompetent that they had to reboot their game twice.

Just came back to read the new rules... I already hate Overdress

I assumed it was commander at this point tbh at least in the Uk every LGS I see has its own group of different formats they play but nearly everyone in that shop has a commander deck

Commander and Draft.

@@mangohub3252yeah, my LGS in the uk, the commander night was always RAMMED full of people in a tiny store. Like 30 + people.

A Pro Magic Player without Mana Limitations... He's probably gonna play Mystic Mine.

Yugioh has very loose concepts of control and aggro. Most decks are combo based that set up multiple negations for the opponents turn and then kill them on their next turn if the opponent failed to clear the board. Closest thing to control are true draco or guru "control". Both rely on trap cards which restrict the opponents actions so called "floodgates" and then grind you out. Guru uses its namesake subterror guru to generate advantage and disrupt you each turn while true draco get activate their effects based on the opponents actions to then get advantage.

@@luminous3558 as a former magic player and a current true draco player; can confirm any magic player playing a blue control deck would like true dracos

Mana drain original was the weaker version of counterspell. Bc back then manaburn was a thing so it's intended to give you damage after countering some big spell....

@@portingfreak Huh, never realized that, lol. Wow, that's wild that just changing one simple rule took it from being a weak counterspell to being the ultimate counterspell.

Force of will crying in the corner

Very good analysis! I've never played either competitively but I've been playing both for a long time, and I agree with all your points. Even, albeit begrudgingly, with your point that MTG is the better game, in terms of balance and versatility. Although I do love my casual YGO decks (smacking a Quintet Magician down after several turns of build-up can be rewarding), I feel like MTG is more balanced overall and the turns are less swingy. But mana screw sucks, so I do absolutely love it that YGO doesn't really have a resource system. Such a cool thing to not have in a card game!

@@WhiteOwlet DNA surgery into super poly to bring out Quintet is so satisfying, very slow and bad but feels great in locals.

@@ryukenxx2 That sounds savage. xD Were it not for the price of Super Polys, I might try that, too, some day.

@@WhiteOwlet All this is so interesting to me. The idea of not having a resource system to temper what people can play when is wild to me. So if your opening hand has your biggest bomb in it, can you just immediately drop it onto the board and warp the game straight away before your opponent has a chance to do anything at all? I had a main question that I got sidetracked from though, lol. Are there lots of bans in Yu-Gi-Oh? Like besides the last couple years, Magic generally doesn't ban cards often at all. Only when formats warp like crazy do they ban. I heard someone say that bans in Yu-Gi-Oh are basically its version of rotation, does that track? Like, how many bans on average are there a year or so?

@@enderalex300 I don't know too much about bans, but I think the current list has about 150 cards on it (that are banned, limited or semi-limited). Quite a lot, but considering that the format is basically vintage, I don't think that's very wild. There are some ways to make cards "cost" in YGO (for example, you may have to sacrifice monsters or discard cards to activate them), but generally, yes, you can activate your strongest cards as soon as you get them. And with the extra deck, which is basically just 15 commanders, you usually have your strongest cards at hand. It's really interesting to see that play out, to me especially in the casual arena. From what I understand of competitive YGO, it's a lot of turn 1 kills. xD

Same

I play Yugioh, but really don’t want to play Magic just because it sounds like their community is so toxic towards other card games, while most other card games treat others with respect

@@A-Link The Professor's community seems pretty chill but I have noticed that most of the Magic players in my neighbourhood snarl at the mere existence of any other card game than what they are playing. One of them legit had a fucking breakdown when a friend of mine replaces all of her Mountain (red basic lands) basic lands with red energy from Pokémon... Demanded she change them back and refusing to play the game if she didn't.

magic is sloooooooow my dude! Not as slow as pokemon but still not half as satisfying as Yu-Gi-Oh! When I started playing yugioh I actually felt my brain get bigger just by understanding the concept of timing,spell speed,chain links, etc.

Jeremy Ranger I completely disagree i play both yugioh and magic and have played both with meta decks for both games (modern format for mtg and tricksters pre ban for yugioh). Modern games can be just as fast if not faster than yugioh and no yugioh deck I’ve seen comes close to the complexity of a modern deck like storm or meta decks in a magic format called cEDH.

Seriously, Pokemon TCG is underrated and is on par with MTG in terms of balance, eh, somewhat. Much more balanced than YGO. I switch back and forth between Pokemon and MtG.

And you didn't even mention the saddest thing in Yu-Gi-Oh : card artists remain anonymous no matter what. There was some exception when an american artist did the art for some cards, but otherwise they have almost no exposition - except when it's Kazuki Takahashi.

@@MrVovoda I didn't think about this, but now that I am yeah it really is a damn shame.

@@MrVovoda There's a team on charge, a WHOLE studio, not just one artist, thats why, second they aren't meant to be pieces of art with a name (take it as a good or a bad thing), I'm sure that theres the same effort on design, maybe even more due that their format never rotates, you can't just look down Konami (in the tcg department), they have their reasons to do things, thats the way Japan rolls. The only difference is that Wizards brags about it.

@@MrVovoda I believe it's so we don't have issues that happened with recent Magic Artist. While crediting the artist is nice, I kinda get why Konami does it

@@IcarusAtreides There's a whole team of Wizards artists too, and their names are on the cards, so that's not really a good argument.

For all the problems YGO players have with Konami I can say for myself that I prefer the way that they do reprints to WotC by far. Their philosophy is more "people shouldn't have to sell their house to buy cardboard" but Wizards seems to be more "if it was expensive before it must remain expensive *for all time* so as to protect the monetary value of the old guard's collections".