Well, this one turned out a bit longer than expected...

Are you telling me that Niime doesn't qualify as a "magical girl" smh

Small correction about Dorothea, her recruitment requirements are charm and authority and are therefore more or less met automatically.

"Lysithea is really good if you're playing Three Houses efficiently" Guess we know why Mangs and Chaz don't like her ;)

As a wise person once said: Being Meguca is suffering

"I don't know a lot about kids." --Mekkah, the schoolteacher

Alright, keep on underrating Mae. She's still hyper.

Honestly, I think another factor is that a lot of female mages in Fire Emblem have tragic backstories. Linde, Tailtiu, Tine, Lilina, Nino, Lysithea, they all have some kind of dead parent or sad past or history of abuse or something like that. It makes the whole "must protecc at all costs" attitude go even further.

I disagree that Dorothea is a hard unit to recruit. Dorothea's recruitment is authority and charm not magic. Those two stats will usually grow passively and you're going to want to raise your authority so you can use better battalions anyways. I'd honestly go as far to say that she's one of the easiest students to go for if you want to get her.

Be Chaz, skips to the end of the video Sees Lysithea on A Sees Mirand on E *Chaz noises*

> Talks a lot about how good Linda is > Proceeds to put her under Tailto and Sonya Ok Mekkah

Dorothea: *the most deployed character in the game according to online statistics* Mekkah: I don’t think a lot of people recruit Dorothea out of house.

Can we just appreciate how much FE5 hated Miranda? First, she must be picked over the characters on the A route, all of whom are better than her in one way or another, then, in the chapter she does join in, she has to share it with arguably the best magical girl and Est archetype in the series (who also appears in route A, so you wouldn’t even need to visit route B and then recruit Miranda just for kicks, also, does she even escape it if you don’t visit that route...?). She has Wrath, which is on steroids in FE5, but she needs to dodge or survive *something* in order for it to activate, and with that base HP and defense, maybe a single enemy, but not much more. Ever heard characters getting stat screwed? Then how about one that gets promotion screwed? She, for some nonsensical reason, turns into a Mage Knight, when there are still lot of indoors maps left, so not only does she not get to use her mount, but get this: her foot movement goes from 6 to 5. Quoting Mekkah ‘s Forde rant video: What kind of promotion LOWERS your movement? Sure she gets swords... an E rank... and with her 5% Str growth... yay. And that’s not to mention how Sages are so broken in that game, and how there’s a male mage who becomes one but the female mage doesn’t. There’s probably a lot more I forgot, but this unit would definitely be above even Meg in a joke unit tier list.

dorothea doesn't need magic, her requirements are charm and authority

As a very big Nyx fan, I will say that you had a very realistic and reasonable opinion on her and as someone who uses her every run, she's no higher than C Tier.

"Everyone with a mount is better than or equal to Lute... well, maybe not Forde." Hear that, L'Arachel? Mekkah says you're C-tier!

>tfw no magical girl gf why even live

I just clicked on the video and I already know two denizens of S/A tier. Thracia really is wild.

Ah, yes, the magic baby archetype

I like Delthea a lot because of how she actually has a base resistance stat which basically doesn't exist in Echoes and I value that rather highly.

I have used Lysythia in basically all of my playthroughs and I just finished a play-through of Three Houses Maddening NG. In my experience early on (chapters ~3-10) she *barely* one-shots enemies with Hades/Dark Spikes but more often sets up clean kills, but later on near the end of Part 1 (Abraxis/Dark Tomefaire) and a few chapters after the Timeskip difficulty spike she starts killing most things very reliably outside of mages (who she can actually tank) and the goddamn Pegasus Knights (who die to Luna, but very limited casts and innaccurate). The lack of Psychic (or Fortify) is noticeable compared to other top tier mages and many other great mages learn psychic (Dorthea/Mercedes/etc.) but she is really the only *good* mage that learns Warp. Honestly her fragility is *less* significant on Maddening since basically all of your mages get one-rounded by a lot of enemies. A rank is fair though. I think Lysethia is the best mage in Three Houses and I would rank her S as in "You 100% always want her", but there is definitely an argument that Sara provides much more comparatively.

Annette? This isn't a wyvern tier list, is it?

Honestly, Delthea is quite better in Echoes than what her level gives off. Even at level 3, she has an astonishing 15 resistance at base, meaning she's very easy to train with the amount of Cantors you have to face in Act 4 of Alm's Route. Her base speed (Which is 10) allows her to double most magic enemies on hard mode since they get weighed down heavily by their spells. Not to mention, she really doesn't have much competition in Alm's Route for the mage ring, which adds 2 range to her spells and heals her by 5 HP, making her lack of HP and Defence not an issue for training her up in battles. (She gains exp so fast that you don't have to go out of your way to grind her.) I would consider her top of C at minimum.

Linda/Tine behind Tailtiu is kind of strange considering that they arrive much sooner that Tailtiu does in Gen1, and they are kind of Ced/Hawk Lite after promotion.

Mekkah: If there's not enough people for a full video, I'll add some extras from Last Promise. Also Mekkah: I skipped some people intentionally because as you can see the video is long enough already.

Bruh moment bruh moment Orochi not there

In case anyone's curious about Orochi's potential placement, she most likely belongs in upper C or lower B tier. Her most apparent issue, speed, is easily fixable in Fates and especially BR with pair up, tonics and food (7 base + 2 Spd tonic + 3 Hayato pair up = 12 Spd which isn't shabby at all for the earlygame). There's also the horse spirit with its +3 Skl/Spd/Def/Res which can patch up both her Spd and bulk. BR enemy stats are on the lower end which also plays into her cards. Her enemy phase isn't great but she does have unnerfed 1-2 range. Orochi's combat is decent but her biggest contribution is definitely being the only BR unit with the capture ability. CQ certainly has more enemies worth capturing but there are quite a few promoted nohrian classes you can capture relatively early on in BR like great knights, wyvern lords and berserkers. They're decent filler units and Hoshidan classes lack solid Str and Def pair up options so these captures are greatly appreciated.

I will always defend Delthea just for her sheer fire power. Even on 0% Growths she does truckloads of damage, to the point where her Spells are so strong you don't even really have to promote her. I won't say she's a top-tier Unit--she IS still a Mage which means she dies faster than most other Units (since Magic drains a Mage's HP) and her Movement is still sub-par, not to mention she joins pretty late (tail-end of Act 3/beginning of Act 4), but she's solid enough for the time you have her IMO.

Mekkah you don't understand how to use Lysithea, her true utility is opening chests TACTICAL NUUUUUKE

I actually find Delthea to be very easy to use in echoes. In my Blitzkrieg run I did recently I found a lot of use for her in Part 4 in the battle against Hestia. My run on Alms side ended up being me using only Mathilda and Alm. In that map the endless witches were a problem since Alms one weakness is magic. I found that if I left her on the Northern deployment area by herself with a ring for some healing the witches always targeted her and only dealt 1 damage. That with occasional Physics from Faye and the witches were no longer a problem. She was never used prior and got to promotion on that map in the short time it took me to beat it.

I’ve listened to that Zelda relaxing music video so many times. Good choice for background :)

I used Mae a ton in SoV. Her growths are good and she can ORKO reliably on hard if you give her the early statues. She was the second best unit for me on Celica's route to Catria. It's nice in Act 3 that she ignores the obnoxious terrain bonuses. EDIT: This was for Blitzkrieg too.

How to make ICBM Lysithea: Step 1: Get Thyrsus Step 2: Get reason to S for dark magic range +1 Step 3: Turn her into a valkyrie for additional dark magic range Result: She has high move due to being a rider, and can hit units up to six spaces away

Where's Orochi?

This one should be easy to guess Sara Linoan Lysithea Edit: yup, Mekkah is predictable

If you give Mae some of the early fountain boosts IIRC she onerounds regular pirates in the boat maps. Last time I played SoV with a semi LTC intent (total 303 turns) Mae ended up being the unit with the most battles.

you forgot to add the N tier for nonexistent mekkah: sophia also goddamn, were fe7 portraits that small

I definitely agree with the placement of lysithea and the argument that she's just outclassed by sheer staff utility of higher entries, but I disagree with some of your points about her. First, there aren't any mages that can one-shot in early/lategame maddening, so I don't think that's a valid critique of her. Hell, no unit can really one shot except for like lightning axe Annette. If we're talking about one rounding that's kinda different, but most 3h mages (besides yuri and manuela) won't be doubling anyways due to low str coupled with low speed, so I still don't think that's valid. Second, mage durability is always awful in 3h maddening, and there's seldom a physical enemy that doesn't one-round any Mage, so while she's the most frail Mage, it doesn't mean a whole lot. If it's a pitfall to fret over low stats compared to more important ones (paraphrased stat booster pitfall), then it's a pitfall to think that lysithea's low survivability make her a less threatening unit. For those reasons, I think lysithea as a Mage is leagues above her competitors, at least in terms of sheer offensive capabilities. Annette really only good because of rallies, and I think it says something that her optimal class is arguably not even a Mage. That being said, good video, placements were all on point imo.

Mekkah, you neglected to mention Dorothea learns Rally Charm at D Authority. She and Manuela are the only characters who learn it that early (all the house leaders learn it at S rank authority) and it's one of the bigger rallies in the game. Gambit hit rate is modified by your charm minus your target's charm then multipled by 5, so if your unit already has higher charm, Rally Charm adds a gigantic 40% hit rate to Gambits, which is HUGE early on in Maddening since gambit hit rates are so low. This is a huge and unique point in Dorothea's favor.

FE12 Linde is actually amazing on higher difficulties, especially Lunatic Reverse. Her only drawback is that she does take some setup (which puts her behind, say, Palla or Kris). However, she can do several things that almost no other units can. Most units in basically any of the higher FE12 difficulties cannot survive more than one or _maybe_ two engagements on enemy phase since enemy offense is so high. Linde however has access to Nosferatu (which very units can claim, since it's female only). This does take some time and/or a robe to get going since effective 22 physical bulk isn't sufficient on higher difficulty modes. However, since she joins so early she can spend the early game dealing out useful chip with Aura to pick up a few levels to get her there. She doesn't actually need to hit particularly high bulk thresholds to pull this off since she only needs to take one hit, and can then heal to full in either one or two hits (she is one of the few units in the game to have both extant magic and speed growths, and a respectable base in the latter at 8). The only other real candidates for this are Malicia (4 less bulk, 2 less magic, 4 less speed and 3 more levels away from the juicy sage promo bonuses) and Katarina who isn't available for nearly as long and can't compete in either magic or speed. I usually find I can start making effective use of Linde as a Nostank by early/mid Anri's way, and it only gets progressively more useful as other units start having a harder time both in taking multiple enemies and in one-rounding them, which becomes extremely difficult as enemy bulk increases during the mid- to late-game. And speaking of one-rounding in the late game, that's where her second role comes in. Starting in chapter 19 generic humans will have capped speed, and even a few chapters before then you will start seeing many promoted enemies that are 1-3 off their cap. The annoying thing about this is that several classes have either 25 or 26 speed at their cap (Falcos, Heroes, Paladins) which means they require a capped speed unit at 29 or 30 speed to double. Only Swordmasters hit 30 speed, and most SMs struggle to one-round anyway since enemy defense is so high and swords have relatively low might. But y'know what enemies don't have a lot of? Resistance! Linde is by far the best candidate (in a growths context anyway) to run the Levin Sword!Swordmaster build since is likely the only unit you will have at that point with both capped speed and capped magic. Being able to one-round 25/26 speed enemies (and at two range no less!) is HUGE in those difficulties since most other units will be struggling to do so without effective or brave weapons. So in summary, FE12 Linde proceeds from: reasonably useful chip > one of your only multi-enemy tanks > one of your only reliable one-rounders. I think it's fair to penalize her somewhat for the early investment she requires (although tbph there's not that much competition for that since most FE12 H3/H4 units are either irredeemable trash or good for free) but she's not too terribly demanding in that regard and she has very little competition in her role(s). I would put her in _at least_ A tier.

One thing I will say about Miriel is that she has access to the Dark Mage class, meaning she can become another Nosferatu tank pretty easily. I've done this on Lunatic with her, it works fine. She's definitely lower tier than Tharja still - Tharja doesn't need the Second Seal (though you can buy second Seals from soon after Tharja joins iirc), and has much better durability, both at base and through growth. Miriel on the other hand joins early in a very growth heavy game - which can let her get better stats by the point you recruit Tharja, as well as higher supports. Overall she doesn't do the job as well as Tharja but she still does it well enough to be pretty solid in that role. I don't think I'd really put her much higher on a tier list, I'd say she's overall maybe a bit above average out of Awakening characters. It's been so many years since I touched awakening, it's hard to say exactly.

MEKKAH HOW DARE YOU PUT MAE IN ANYTHING OTHER THAN SSS+ TIER HER COMBAT IS alright BUT SHE'S THE BEST CHARACTER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH

In regards to Conquest Nyx, bottom of C tier seems pretty alright for her. When trained normally, she's essentially a free kill on player phase, but her terrible skill means she'll sometimes miss and screw you over. Nyx's best niche though definitely comes from early promotion, since she comes at Lv. 9. Dark Knight gives her much needed boosts in bulk and movement, and she can clear out one of the wing groups of archers or oni savages in Chapter 10 practically by herself, with her magical offense rivaling Camilla. Once her usefulness runs out and she starts to fall off, she can be reclassed to Adventurer for the pair up bonuses of +3 Mag, +6 Spd, +1 Mov. This is absolutely amazing for the male mages Leo and Odin since their biggest problem is speed, and with wifed up Nyx, they get to be fast and powerful 9 Mov Dark Knights. Sadly some Fates units just perform far better as pair up bots than as combat units, but it's at least better than bad units just getting benched altogether.

Make Lysithea a dark flier, if you have Cindered Shadows. That's a pure meme build.

I skipped to the end and saw Lute in B-tier and almost X'd out, but then I saw Lysithea in A-tier and decided that I'll let this play in the background.

Seeing Ilyana's placement is probably going to break my heart. Edit: Yeah, I figured. This is neither here nor there, but I think a speed transfer makes RD Ilyana go from being okay to really respectable in Part 1 which keeps her afloat a bit longer. She can struggle in Part 3, but she isn't _terrible_ I find. Better than Brom or Boyd, imo. I guess the hardest thing is that you can't just forget about her and expect her to do something. One of the downsides of RD favoring snowballing juggernauts and hating mages, I guess.

Just some comments about Lysithea. I agree with the placement you gave her, but I would like to expand on the idea of "this placement is assumming you are playing efficiently". There are more ways of efficient play than just LTC'ing, and I would like to talk about efficient management of the limited resources you are given to train your units on Maddening NG, and how Lysithea's combat (beyond her support roles) can easily be taken to top tier without depriving the other units on your main team from their training. She can get to the thresholds for one-shotting and one-rounding enemies on Maddening pretty early (several chapters before time-skip). She can be the first unit to master her Intermediate class and get access to Fiendish Blow as early as the end of chapter 5. Her magic attack is further boosted by batallions. Essar Research Group can be obtained before chapter 6 mission, and Timotheos Magic Corps can be obtained from Hapi's paralogue. The best batallion for her, Macuil Evil Repelling Corps, can be obtained from Hanneman's paralogue (though it may take some more time before Lysithea can equip it, since it requires A Authority). Lysithea can typically reach the skill proficiency requirements for Gremory a couple of chapters before the timeskip. Once her Faith hits A (which should be around the time she is promoted into Bishop), it is no longer necessary to continue investing on it, and same goes for Authority. So, since Lysithea's battle-relevant skill ranks are so simple and easy for her to raise, you can start instructing her on things like Bows, Flying and Lances to get certifications for Intermediate classes (and then using auxiliary battles or paralogues to master them). Giving Lysithea things like both Darting Blow and Hit+20 is something that can be achieved shortly after timeskip (I've done it on my current playthrough of Maddening NG). It is not even a matter of favoritism or focusing resources solely on her, because you can get Professor Level A+ before the timeskip, and as early as Prof. Level B you have enough resources (instruction points, activity points to send students to the sauna, battle points on the weekends, etc) to do the same with all of the members of your main team (e.g. I had no trouble giving Darting Blow to all my female Golden Deer students and Death Blow to most of my non-axe users in my core team before the timeskip, and after the timeskip I started giving them things like Hit+20, etc). Regarding Lysithea's weaknesses: Those can also be patched with efficient play. I have the argument that giving Armored Knight certifications to your physically frail units is a viable and sound Maddening NG strat, much like equipping every physical units with bows is. I had success in investing on Lysithea's and Marianne's Axe and Armor ranks to certify them as Armor Knights shortly after chapter 5 mission. (Alternating Axe and Armor as secondary goals, assigning Lysithea and Marianne to do weeding, and instructing them on Reason/Faith during the first five chapters was enough to take them to Axe D+ and Armor D while keeping good progress on their magic ranks). The promotion into Armored Knight bumps a unit's HP to 30, Def to 12 and Str to 9, which is a significant boost to Lysithea's survivability as early as level 10. Getting the AK a little later doesn't matter much, since the boost is still relevant (Lysithea got hers at level 12, while Marianne got it at level 10, albeit some weeks later). Furthermore, you have the option of not bothering with quest battles until after you have enough activity points, and then do one of them (on some weekend where you have no more paralogues to do but have one spare battle point) to farm Axe and Armor weapon ranks to get Fortress Knight certifications. I don't know if this is considered "grinding" (though it is definitely "farming"), but it is one possible way of taking a big advantage from a limited resource (the number of battles you can do on Maddening NG). Giving level 20 Lysithea and Marianne 35 HP, 17 Str, 17 Def and access to Smite and Weight -3 is as good as benefits can get from spending a single battle point. As for Lysithea's movement, you can promote her into Valkyrie way easier than into Dark Knight; Dark Flier works too (having just D Flying and a high Reason rank give you a pretty high chance of passing the exam) even though the class abilities don't benefit Lysithea. Or you can also do what I did, which was giving her the +2 Movement stat-booster and leave her as a Gremory (7 movement and 1-4 range has been pretty good movility and I haven't had troubles with it). Just to close, I want to highlight the other meaning of "efficient play" and how Lysithea (AND the rest of your units) can benefit from it. It is definitely possible to give elaborate ability-sets to your team on Maddening NG, and Lysithea's combat abilities can be taken to the point where she can one-round or one-shot dangerous enemies. Of course, as Mekkah said, if you play Maddening NG "casually" (or simply not making the most out of the resources that boost your team members' performance), then your Lysithea will be very disappointing. Lysithea stans have sold the idea that rushing her Reason and Faith ranks is enough to make her "tHe BeSt uNit in dA gAme" even on Maddening, and of course Lysithea skeptics would be quick to notice the poor returns they would get from doing such a poor investment (which is definitely not efficient nor adequate for a Maddening NG context).

Always love watching the tier list videos, excellent as always! One point about Linde in FE1 that stands out about her is that Aura is exclusive to her. Since magic attack power is solely based on weapon might, she can hit hard with that 20 might book and will always deal 20 damage. The downside of Aura is that it’s pretty heavy at 7 weight. She joins with a speed of 7, so an AS of 0. I found that until her speed gets up, it was better to have her use a tome like thunder/fire for chip damage or freeze to try to get a crit. Most of the time she’ll only double axe users or armor knights until her speed catches up for Aura. Generally, silver bow or bowgun enemies will shred her to pieces if she’s wielding aura in their range so it’s a bit risky to use if there’s a chance she’ll be in range of an archer (though you can always just exploit FE1 AI and just put Marth nearby to lure them). Once she gets a few levels she’ll be great, but by that time if you’ve been using Merric, he’ll have gotten some levels. I think he has the better exclusive tome with Excalibur since it’s essentially a personal Thoron tome with more crit and uses. tl;dr: FE1 Linde hits like a heavy truck with Aura, but can get doubled easily.

why isn't Sailor Moon S tier

Orochi is E tier without a doubt. Her speed and defense are non existant.

Lysithea + Dancer ally = kill two problem enemies per turn for free.

50k sub special should be a stream of mekkah making a tier list of every single fire emblem character

Miriel is kinda sorta really good as far as the non-superstars are considered. She is carried by Access to dark mage class and rescue staves being e rank. If you can spare an early second seal to her, she will snowball really really hard as a nosferatu tank. Alternatively/later on she should have a great magic stat and can go crazy with the limitless buyable rescue staves as a sage or valkyrie. Pairing her up to a flier, running ahead and rescuing bosskiller is quite tight. Aside from those merits, she is an early accurate chip unit. Those are useful. Sure she is no corrin but she is head above units like stahl or ricken on lunatic thanks to her good reclass potential and focus on a really useful stat (mag for rescue range)

Tharja will always be my favorite female mage both unit and design wise.

Nice! Breath of Wild music feels really refreshing, ty Mekkah

Lysithea doubles a good bit more in Dark Flier and her movement doesn’t suck with that, but I’m assuming you’re not counting DLC classes. Annette and Dorothea probably benefit a lot from the class too, but Lysithea’s speed is high enough to make that extra speed possibly matter more than with the other two.

I'm guessing Hapi and Constance are gonna be on different tier list.

To this day, my girl Orochi’s existence has been forgotten. I can relate. Cool list though.

I don't know how much it counts since it's DLC, but whenever I do play Conquest I immediately slap Nyx into the Witch class the second I recruit her. She becomes capable of doubling most enemies and her Magic stat shoots up like crazy which makes her more useful than she would be on her own or with statboosters. The fact that you can used the Witch's Mark instantly on her nets you a high magic nuke for that point in the game and I always find that very useful. Not gamebreaking because she still dies in one hit and doesn't have the best Movement but useful enough to be notable on my team. I know this might not count given DLC can potentially break your characters into game ending units, but for me this is just with the free DLC content in mind which isn't that plentiful or excessive enough to drastically alter the game to me. But I understand if people don't count this as a point towards Nyx's viability.

Loved the list as ever, Mekkah! Regarding Wyvern Annette, the greatest thing she has going for her is not Crusher (don't get me wrong, it's good on her), but instead the Lightning Axe combat art. With this, and Fiendish Blow through Mage mastery, she can one-shot a lot of Maddening enemies with the Hammer or Devil Axe. And because she's using the magical hit formula, she needn't worry about enemy terrain bonuses. Things only get better once the Bolt Axe becomes available, with the forged form having 1-3 range. This means as a Wyvern Lord, she can do magical damage within a range of 11, which is comparable to a Dark Knight with Thyrsus. Finally, this is her best form for Rallying, as being a flier with 7/8 movement makes it easier for her to reach allies who need a boost. I used her on Blue Lions Maddening in this build (admittedly, with NG+), and she was quite impressive. Not sure how viable it is on raw NG, there are a lot of ranks to build up. Her performance was A-rank, but I actually wouldn't judge her on such a basis for this video, since she's outside the "mage" build in which everyone else is being considered. As a Mage/Warlock, she suffers from a lackluster pool of spells on both the Reason and Faith sides. Fast-growing Authority is good, though, as are the Rallies (she gets Strength, Speed, and Resistance). I'd probably put her around low-B in such a build, but it depends on how much you're getting out of those Rallies. Also, quick note on Miriel - she can go Dark Mage through a Second Seal, so I wouldn't put her quite so far behind Tharja. Tomes are good overall in Awakening, and Nosferatu especially so. She can contribute from earlier on, and build her spell rank up, by the time Tharja joins. I haven't used her on Lunatic, really, but it seems like she'd have a lot of potential there.

Lots of good soothing Zelda tunes in this bad boy. Lovely

Only thing i'd change probably is moving Sonya to E or F tier. She is the worst unit in both SoV and Gaiden no context 1 mov in heavy terrain, requires way too much investment to get high damage spells in gaiden and straight up doesn't get them in SoV, 3RKOs the most common enemy types in act 4, and has awful bulk. I honestly don't see how she's good in any non-grind contexts.

Great video as usual Mekkah! Out of curiosity, could Micaiah also have qualified for this list?

FE1 magic does fixed damage before resistance, which no enemy has. Aura is far and away the strongest spell, but really heavy. So none of Linde's stats matter at all. She could literally have 0 in everything but HP and she would still be about as good. Her one job is doing 20 fixed damage ranged chip without any investment.

Majora's Mask BGM, Mekkah? Stepping up your game, I see

Nyx tends to have two purposes: chip damage on archers/axe users in earlygame, or pair-up fodder for Leo as an Adventurer for +7 Spd. I prefer the latter.

1:11:58 "I think there was an update to Three Houses where linked attacks no longer worked for units that were not supporting each other" Is that true? First time I've heard of it.

Annette works best as a Wyvern Lord with Fiendish Blow and a Bolt Axe or the Lightning Axe combat art with a Silver Axe+ (or Crusher, like you mentioned). Having a high-movement unit who deals damage based on Res is very useful. Alert Stance+ makes her even better as an enemy phase killer. She was one of my most valued units when playing through Blue Lions, and she can always rally when you need it, too. I got her to Wyvern Lord super early, like chapter 14 or something. Using her purely as a rally bot majorly undersells her capabilities. I did that a lot pre-timeskip, but by the mid-game on, I rarely used her rally. Never once used her to cast spells.

Thanks for the A, I still continue to work hard to be in S tier one day ♥️

Once more mekkah needs to play awakening.

Goes straight to end to see where lysithea and annette are rated then came back to watch it all to make sure mangs and chaz hadn't infected mekkah with lysithea hate.

I feel like FE3 book 2 Linde has been underrated on this video so I want to talk a little about her performance in the game without giving her any blatant favoritism or anything like that. I will be mostly talking numbers. In FE3 you need to have 3 AS over the enemy to double. Linde starts with 2 AS with Aura so after leveling speed ONCE she has enough to double 0 AS enemies and most enemies early game have 0-2 AS. Not that she really needs to double, most enemies during the early maps die in one hit from her 22 total might. In mid game the enemy composition is mostly dragons and barbarians with 0 AS. Dragons deal fixed damage and have 1-2 range so mages are good at engaging them on EP. To double 0 AS enemies with Nosferatu, she needs to get 5 speed procs from her 60% growth without taking the +2 from promo into account. After she becomes capable of doubling with Nosferatu, she only needs to have enough bulk to survive one hit since she can get the HP back with it and the thresholds in this game aren't crazy. Silver weapon enemies in chapters 15-19 have 24-29 atk. A level 20 Linde with a promotion (read as 12/9 or 14/7, whatever strikes your fancy) has 26 HP and 4-5 def without even using star shards, which is enough. I should also mention that exp gain in this game is fast, unpromoted enemies always give 32 exp while barbarians and thieves give 40 and dragons give 50 so she has ample time to reach this level of bulk and there's also promoted enemies and bosses that give even more exp. And let's not forget about the fact that you get hammerne in ch5 in this game which has 5 uses and can't be used to repair the warp, rescue or again staves, making Aura one of the best hammerne targets (that's right, you get to spam a 20 mt tome from ch3 as much as you like, pretty much). Nosferatu can also be hammerned if the player wants to. How tough are the mid-game dragons? They have 0 AS and wyrmslayers have an effective might of 30 against them so pretty much any sword user can ORKO them... on player phase. And mounted units need to dismount. And there's also that desert chapter which will make mages better than units like Ogma, Navarre and Sirius against the wyverns. There's enough dragon enemies to make a mage capable of contributing. -Wyverns (40 HP, 5 Res): with the shaver tome you need 10 str to ORKO. Meanwhile, Linde only needs 5 with the Aura (she gets +2 str on promotion by the way). Merric can ORKO with Excalibur regardless of str. -Fire Dragons (48 HP, 5 Res): mages need 11 str to ORKO with a blizzard tome. With Aura, Linde only needs 9 str. Also, there's a fire dragon guarding a free physic staff on ch7 and Linde is your best option against him, killing it in 3 hits with Aura. -Ice Dragons (30 HP, 10 Res): Anyone can ORKO them with elfire as long as they have enough spd. Bolganone is also capable of OHKO'ing to avoid taking a counter and Linde has the best skl to make up for its base 70 hit. Aside from mid-game barbarians which get ORKO'd easily with Aura, Thoron or Nosferatu there's also the fact that late-game enemies don't really put up much of a fight since they're slow so most of them get ORKO'd by Aura and horsemen in particular are pathetic for being promoted enemies with 0 res. She's also a magic unit that can reach 20 wlv very easily (she averages 13 at level 10, for reference) so even if you don't plan to get her str stat to a high value she can be useful as a staff user upon promotion. Staves can even be used even when your allies haven't taken any damage and don't get a exp gain cut for promoted units so you could do something like buying a bunch of physic staves in the ch13 secret shop and have her spam it for 30 exp per use while holding a star shard for easy good levels (along with someone else if you want). For yor magical needs, Linde is a very strong unit and she has the best availability of them all. So with all of this in mind, I'd say that Linde belongs in S tier for FE3 book 2 just below the obvious units (Palla, Catria, Phina, Sirius and maybe Ogma and Navarre). Her only real weakness aside from move (which is actually decent in indoor maps) is her str stat. She needs some investment (str shards, power ring) to be able to outright ORKO paladins with nosferatu during late-game but even that isn't strictly necessary. What annoys me about this video is that Linde actually has separate portraits for her book 1 and 2 incarnations on the website that Mekkah is using so there was no reason to "average them out."

When you put a shot of almost the entire list tiered from the end of the video as the thumbnail: *oh yeah, this is big brain time*

Aaah...loving that breath of the wild music in the background

Sonia is pretty decent unit. Level, availability, can be a put off but she is a very nice unit.

Early promoted Dark Knight Nyx is pretty good in chapter 13 where she can 1 round armour knights and have decent durability with pair up, but beyond that she's only really good for having a mount.

Makkah could create a fire emblem tier list on nameless bosses and I’d still be slightly interested

Linde gets a prf tome like Merric, but it doesn't have effective bonus against anything so it isn't quite as useful, and she dies instantly to tons of things before promoting so she doesn't even make good use of Nosferatu in NM until later on. I haven't played enough of Shadow Dragon to know how good she is there, but Linde isn't too hard to do without in its sequel. Tailtiu suffers heavily from coming late and being a unit with good speed but no Pursuit, Asvel is a good partner choice for her to get Tine Pursuit before she promotes, her other options are basically the dudes that come with Vantage to abuse Wrath with, but that means getting stuck with a lowish magic score(but enough durability to at least eat a hit to get into Wrath range). Not much to say about Julia, Light beats every other magic and she's basically the "Kill Julius for free" button, there's an option for an extra tome to get her early, the drain spell(Resire/Nosferatu) is the more useful of the two. Delthea has a high base res, which is actually a big deal in Gaiden/SoV due to single digit res growths, she can help with fighting Cantors (which generally run high damage spells that counter everything short of archers and have annoying evade due to their tendency to sit on defense tiles so those can have trouble connecting) and Witches(which will attack random people on the map but aren't especially strong), both of which start showing up more often after getting her. They DID give her and Sonya Rewarp to teleport around with, but you can't attack after using it, learn it pretty late, and it costs HP so it's not the best spell to make heavy use of(though it can work out in tandem with Physic in some cases to undo the strain). Mae has good attack and meh skill but that just means you aren't using her for swords or crit abuse that often since spells have a set accuracy(boosted by specific supports), and she learns the high accuracy Seraphim/Angel a bit later than Celica but in time to help out with nuking monsters once they start showing up in droves. I wouldn't call her bad by any means, but I suppose she's not a particular standout when you have Celica as an offensive mage and the Whitewings as monster slayers. The main advantage to recruiting Sonya early is getting the Brave Sword from beating up Deen a few maps early, she's not terrible but lacks Seraphim and while her high skill is good for making use of Ladyblade's Hexblade, you get that weapon and learn its art so late it barely matters, she IS an absolute crit monster with Exalibur for what it's worth. I do think it might be better to fight her instead of Deen for the Blitzkrieg challenge, clearing out the witches tends to go a lot faster than fighting off all of Deen's mercenaries if you put a bunch of ranged attackers around the edge of your formation, but her Excalibur is scary to face and witches are a notoriously RNG heavy enemy to deal with thanks to all their warping. Lilina's most notable features are her accuracy issues and fast support with Roy that more or less mends that issue. She hits hard but doesn't double that easily and while she can take magic hits well, physical ones destroy her. The other options for mages are all better and worse in different ways so they might as well all get used for a bit to get a proper evaluation out of them. All I'll say about Nino is that if you're doing ranked runs she can get exp quickly, but it isn't necessary. Lute is better as Mage Knight for its speed and mobility, I don't think I'd ever consider giving her Sage even though she can easily hit its full 30 cap. I never found Illyana all that great, but Shade can be amusing for making her less vulnerable near the frontlines if it works, and the FE9 JP version's glitch with negative crit Thunder tomes is beyond broken. She has high str compared to most mages in both her games, but it's more for carrying heavy tomes than actual melee combat, don't give her knives and bonk things with staves at your own risk. Dark Mage is great for any Awakening mage that has access to it, and that includes both Tharja and Miriel, so both can end up pretty good. Mirel can also switch over to a mounted mage or a staffbot, the latter of which gives her something you CAN do with her on Lunatic, but it's probably not worth spending a seal on her over using Maribelle assuming limited roster space. Fates mages are generally pretty awful outside of the royals and their kids, though Nyx's insane frailty and Orochi's horrendous speed stand out even among all the mechanics that work against mages being decent in general. Orochi does have the capture mechanic, but on Birthright almost no enemies have skills so very few of them are even worth bagging, maybe just some of the lesser bosses for their unique portraits and decent stats.

Annette learns rally Movement at S rank Authority, so does Byleth, it's actually doable and sorta worth it if you give her reason and authority as her goals, because after C rank in Faith, she doesn't learn any good healing spell, she can reach S rank in Maddening at around chapter 17 without any sort of favoritism or otherwise

Lilina comes with a free thunder tome. I feel like that alone makes her a good unit.

Mekkah always picks the best background music

Currently trying wyvern lord Annette on my first maddening play through, its better than I thought it would be. Her damage seems a lot higher spamming lighting axe with an iron axe+, and she’s a lot tankier too. Loses out on healing but it’s not really missed too much, and most importantly it’s pretty fun

Miriel's actually capable of functioning alongside the avatar on Lunatic+, especially if you make her a dark mage. Nostanking is just that useful for taking out massive hordes of enemies once you have a way to get rid of the counter ones. While there's a big drop off between Robin, their children, and everyone else, Miriel's easily near the top of that second list.

One thing about delthea is that she has has an incredible res stat of 15 which makes her an excellent wall against witches.

good taste in Theophany as the background music

As Binding Blade was my first introduction to Fire Emblem I can safely say that I had Lilana as one of my first Fire Emblem waifus along with Cecilia,Fir,and Idunn

Dorothea needs Charm/Authority for recruitment. Natural for Byleth to accumulate, but generally you can't recruit her until later into part 1.

Lysithia was the queen of my maddening run! You just need to feed her all the experience early and she will do great!

The thing about Tharja and all Darkmages in Awakening is that Nosferatu (while it falls of at some point but you have Access to Aversas Night as well which is basically Nosferatu in better) is very strong. I wouldn't say it's broken but her good Defense helps to tank and stay alive with that tome pretty good. Also you can always buy new Nosferatus so she counts to one of the best tanks in the game. She can die if you don't watch and she needs training but overall I think this is one of the reasons why she was so popular. I think that Miriel get's a bit overlooked. With a defensive partner like Kellam she can tank a bit more hits even though it's still not great. And she can also reclass into a dark mage (all kinds of tomes share the same rank) and I already explained why Dark Mages in this game have good options. Generally like Mangs likes to point out everyone in Awakening can become good if you focus on them. But I think Miriel is waaaay better then Ricken and besides Robin the only early game mage that you can use. She is definitely not one of the monster units in this game but useful.

You followed my suggestion? I love you man! Now do the meme units. Also, about Delthea, she is actually easier to train than at least Nino due to the overall usefulness that delthea's magic provides. I agree Delthea is not good, but I do think she is a tier better than shadow dragon Linde.

Honestly, a video on child units after you become better acquainted with them is a good idea.

Dorothea's recruitment requirement is in Authority. It's fairly high (B), but you should get there on any normal play through before the time skip. That said... *Why after almost a year are we still talking about recruitment requirements when all but 2 characters (Ferdinand and Caspar) require only raising Support to B level?* This sort of mistake was understandable when the game first came out and the materials all hinted that it was the best way to recruit, but we're well past the point of realizing that you'll get almost everyone faster and without messing up your Byleth by spamming gifts. It's like nails on chalkboard to hear KZfaqrs who should know better continue to talk about the recruitment requirements when it should be a long-dead mechanic at this point.

I expected this category to be called “Magician Grils”

Annette gets Rally Movement at S rank Authority, which is a lot better than Rally Skill. Still comes awfully late, but not too late to be useful for 1-turn clears of late game Maddening Kill Boss maps.

If you've never used Dark Flier Lysithea, you haven't lived.

I know she's not S tier, but Lilina can be absurdly good if you get good speed. She's also almost guaranteed to cap her magic early, and all the investment she really needs is to spoon feed her on the gaiden level you get after you recruit her. That and her easy support with Roy makes her a no brainer for when I play FE6

Worth noting about miriel is that she can reclass to dark mage/sorcerer, which allows her to use dark magic, which is all super op in awakening.

Delthea is definitely worth using, and not difficult to raise either. We'll see if Mekkah's opinion changes or not in a month or two lol.

17:47 Alm's party is aching for magic users, there is what two starting mages and she's one of them. I feel like she does play a good role as a mage.

I think Mae long term is actually pretty decent, like you said you get her early so she’s really easy to train especially with thunder off the bat. And if you can get her to promotion she gets some pretty good spells and can also heal. Swords are also way less useless than in fe4/5 since magic and strength are the same stat