On my point at 14:26 - Maybe I set expectations too high based on Fromsoft's previous DLC bosses that were a huge upgrade from base game, and should rather view Shadow of the Erdtree as almost its own thing. It's still crazy there's only 2 bad bosses here (NOT COUNTING ALL THE GOD DAMN FURNACE GOLEMS).

Drake in last place, as if losing the beef with Kendrick wasn’t enough 😔

Midra being composed and slow just makes him scarier tbh

I love that in Putrescent Knight's arena there's tons of "Visions of dragon?" messages

Fun fact: This was Igon's VA's first role in a video game.

I love how I genuinely believed gaius was gonna say enemy felled when I killed him and then he was just a wasted remembrance boss with no new ost

For me, Messmer is honest to god on par with Slave Knight Gael as one of the best bosses FromSoft has ever made. He is the first boss I have fought in a long time that legitimately gave me goosebumps through my entire body while fighting him. He just has such a perfect combination of a challenging yet fair moveset, killer soundtrack, very tragic lore, and incredible visual design,

18:25 personally I think Midra's move-set suits him very well. He's like a dancing flame

I really enjoyed Putrescent Knight because he was so weird. His idle stance with his blade above his head looked like he was always about to attack and tripped me up like “oh shit is he gonna attack? No? He looks like he will”

fun fact: Datamining the dlc actually reveals Jori and the Fat dude did indeed have a remembrance dedicated to them. but they probably changed it to a dungeon boss.

Man this guy is definitely the best at making these boss and area rankings, I don’t know why but other peoples videos about this topic are just not as well made

I feel like Radahn wasn't challenging enough, he could definitely use some tweaks to make him feel like the true final boss for the game, like right off the top of my head for example: 1- miquella should steal your heart from the first grab, bad dodgers shall not be given a second chance 2- the clones shouldn't just stun you and do like 15 damage, it should be 300 per clone minimum 3- Malenia's life steal for every attack 4- replace the stunlocking holy beams with malekith's destined death flames 5- that nuke he does at around 30-40% hp should have perfect tracking and he should land on you wherever you are, and only giving you a 1 frame window to dodge it, and if you miraculously do, there should be a lingering destined death flames covering up the entire arena for at least 5 seconds so that if you weren't good enough to kill him before he nukes, you didn't even deserve to live

MFW when Garrew drops his shield instead of his freakyass lick incant

I think Midra moves the way he does simply because at least to him this moment is pure bliss, he's spent the better part of god knows how long enduring the pull of the frenzied flame along with the agony of that sword digging into every part of his body and now because of us pushing him over the edge those pain's are gone, his body is free, his mind one with the frenzy, he has gone from weakness to strength and moves like a man finally in control, I mean just look at the way he glides through the air or swaggers with elated confidence shooting frenzy at you and tell me he doesn't look like he's feeling anything other's than bliss It's pretty much like being blind for 20 years and then suddenly being able to see.

Ugh…. My shadow…. It is erding this… tree?

My favourite from the DLC has to be Midra, the fight is a lot simpler when compared to the likes of Radahn or Rellana, but the presentation and OST sells it for me. I like that the difficulty was a bit more tame and not an experience akin to shoving a hot wire down my urethra. But i can certaily see why one would deem him to be a bit lacking, regardless, he is great

Mesmer OST made me ascend

I lost it when he screamed FUCK YOU BAYYLLEEEEE. Magicat's cursed sense of humor is the best.

Sanguine Nobl Nataan is quite obviously a gameplay addition. Without him, the gank could be insanely unfun. However lorewise it makes some sense. Ansbach was searching for what was going on. Wighout our help it took him some time to figure it out, and then Leda killed him, but not before he sent Nataan to help us.

I don't like how radahn is simultaneously ball bustingly hard and disappointingly simple. He has almost no combo variation or positioning based attacks and since the best place to be is right next to him most of the fight is just dodging the same combos over and over again in the same way. Most of his more fun attacks he'll only do from mid range but he only has like one move that repositions him away from you. He kind of reminds me of what you said in the Lies of P video about the bosses not having enough mobility. Plus his short openings plus time wasting attacks like the nuke make phase 2 just take forever. Even after getting decent at the fight i don't find it nearly as fun as a lot of the other more flexible bosses.

Haha i actually cant believe the amount of your ranking that ive predicted, the moment i fought rellana i was like "this is a magicat amazing tier boss"

The Jagged Peak Drakes are not just only slightly altered dragons from the base game, they are full of jank too. The first one especially will routinely get stuck on cliffs, and his fire will often turn invisible in the arena. I kept getting hit by invisible flames.

Bayle could just be the best mechanically designed fight in these games (outside of Sekiro bosses). Only problem with him is the attack that opens up his phase two. Sometimes he glides in a weird way through the rocks which makes your camera unlock and you'd just take damage or flat out die if unlucky. Outside of this, pure insanity. I absolutely love him.

midra is top 3 for me, such a cool ass boss and his attacks not being chaotic and rather slow and indifferent makes him scarier tbh

I dont think Romina is less complex then Margit the fell omen (not morgot) she has more complex moves, unique design and in my opinion awesome music with reference to Milenia.

damn almost the same top 3 for me, except mine goes like this: 1.Messmer 2.Bayle 3.Radahn Rellana could've made it if her presentation wasnt so boring, also find her arena to be lacking. Looks like the same arena you fight the Lorreta's illusion in Carian Manor.

14:12 this is peak analysis you can't find anywhere else

What weapon was that during the Putrescent Knight fight?

Wow you are probably the only guy that i saw that dont hate consort radahn lmao. Great video anyway

Good video, your ranking is very similar to mine. However I have Metyr ranked a little higher because I figured out how to dodge the black hole lazer attack. All you have to do is run as far away from the boss as possible as soon as the boss starts the initial wind up animation and you can completely out position it. Good luck with your next video!

Overall i think the DLC is the best content fromsoft has made, it improves the dungeons and the world design by making it more layered and having less dungeons but them being higher quality. As for the bosses i think its an amazing roster, i would say there isn't a single main/remembarance boss below B tier and there are some amazing mini bosses. As for my complaints i think cerulian coast and the red southern region are too empty for how big they are, places like jagged peak, finger ruins and abyssal woods are better because they are more empty, they serve as amazing build up for the fights to come. I would like to see you rank all the areas next i think that would be a great video and also your overall review of the DLC + all DLCs ranked. Lots of stuff to talk about.

Best DLC for me, and I agree with your takes on the bosses. ❤️🎉

Just finished my second playthrough of the dlc, good timing!

What armor set are you wearing at the golden hippo boss fight?

Jori was actually going to be a remembrance boss. The art for his remembrance still exists, and he has his own OST with a unique boss room that doesn't look like it belongs in catacombs. They probably changed him down the line and made Gaius a remembrance boss instead.

Awesome video. Pretty much agree with all the choices here and all the points that were brought up against or in favor of the bosses were understandable and reasonable. Hope this video takes off man cause you deserve it, keep up the good work brother.

The biggest issue I have with the DLC is how many weapons should have had a unique moveset but didn't. The Death Knight Twinaxes especially. Though I can't be mad, given we got 8 new weapon types and even some of those had unique movesets among themselves. So it balances out in their favor still.

SOET is easily the best fromsoft dlc, followed by ds3 then bb and ds1.

Radahn is actually somewhat similar to Gwyn where you can parry a majority of his attacks including the BS combo.

metyr’s first laser rotation is undodgable bc you’re not supposed to RUN RIGHT INTO IT WTF

Really good video, I can tell you’re very experienced with the series based on your critiques unlike some other boss rankings i’ve seen.

btw I will say, watching your boss footage has made me realize I ought to trial and error jump dodges more often, my jaw was dropping at the Rellana fight when you were hopping over half her attacks.

Messmer is close to boss perfection imo. He i perfectly balanced. Messmer deserved 2 health bars. One for phase 1, and 1 for phase 2, which is imo the only negative thing about that fight. The more I fight him, the more I love that boss. And now he is in my top 5 favorite Souls boss fights of all time

I would LOVE to see you discussing the world design of the dlc/comparing it to the base game. I also love all your other ideas though, so just do whatever you want!

I was expecting ur video my boy!

I don’t know if this is just me growing up, or if fromsoft has pushed the boundaries of boss difficulty to the point where the challenge is too much to be enjoyable, but it’s getting to the point where the difficulty of learning certain bosses feels like a chore at this point. The learning curve is so ridiculous that I barely enjoyed the process. Sure, at the end I feel good dodging all of Bayle’s or the final boss’s attacks, but the whole process of learning it felt like torture. It felt more natural in games like ds3 and bloodborne for me at least. Now it’s like I have to dedicate so much time into learning these complex boss patterns where I’m barely having fun playing. Idk, fromsoft vets let me know if you feel the same or if it’s just me.

What is the OST used during the section of the death knights? 11:17

Love to see the Rellana praise! Also, out of the choices given at the end, I think that I would be the most interested in seeing a video ranking the DLCs. I don’t think it would be that surprising of a list, but I’m interested in seeing how you would construct that type of video.

Finally I get to know what my opinions are for the bosses, thanks Magicat! (On a more serious note, I actually really like that Midra's moveset is so slow and smooth compared to basically every other boss in the game. You go into the fight expecting the most chaotic / erratic attacks ever to match the music and setting of the frenzied flame, only for Midra's movements to be almost disturbingly smooth and coordinated - especially compared to "phase 1" before the transformation where he IS just erratically running at you while maniacally screaming. It makes him stand out from the rest of the bosses and adds to the unsettling nature of the fight IMO)

I thought the same about Midra. They should’ve gave him a huge attack as a phase 3. Doesn’t have to be hard, just cinematic. Like the flaming ceiling raining down on the player, really empathizing that only this small wooden mansion is keeping this god from destroying the world. I was so disappointed when I realized there isn’t a phase 3, even tho he entered phase to at around 2/3 HP.

Why isn’t golden hippo in amazing?

Maybe im crazy, but I absolutely hated fighting Radahn. Id go as far as to say he was my least favorite fight in the dlc, and before the fromsoft glazers show up, I beat him on my own, learned the whole fight in and out, and didn’t use magic or cheese. I just genuinely thought that his second phase lightbeams ruined the fight and made it a complete mess visually, like half the time my screen was covered with them and i couldnt see where my player was or what Radahn was doing next. Not to mention that my PC would literally have framerate issues thanks to it. Its a thrilling fight and a crazy spectacle, but it felt extremely inconsistent and hinged in trial and error, which disappoints me, since i rlly wanted to like the fight, but it just wasnt a fun experience at all, like most other remembrance fights were imo.

Messmer is just what Malenia should've been.

I would love to see all of the videos you mentioned at the end so you should make all of them

The likitung move is that ash of war fromsoftware made then immediately was like oh no we CANNOT give this one to the player base 😂

Great video! Missed opportunity to show lily when you said evolution while talking about Skibiditree avatar bc he comes back like belial.. other than that PEAK (Also what tier is Marigga?)

The spinning laser in Metyr can be jumped over way easier than slipped under I found, the flame sorta after effect is really low which hopefully makes it easier for future reference!

For Mother of Finger’s laser, you can literally just stand in between the laser and the eruption to avoid it. I don’t think I ever got hit by it when I did that

A souls-game ranking would be awesome. You could even include some souls-likes like Lies of P, Wo Long, and so on. Great video btw

I mostly agree with the Radahn placement, but I do wish he follow up the meteor with the other huge light AOE. I don't mind the meteor itself, especially considering how stressful the boss it, but if he does the meteor and the light aoe it's just a 30 second break from gameplay. His hair also feels too big sometimes, especially on his super combo. I'd personally have him at the very bottom of amazing tier, because at it's peak, it's probably the most fun I've had in a fs game, but it has a lot of very clear flaws.

They did Rellana dirty by not giving her at leat cutscene😥

What should you do next? All of them :D Great video :)

hippo top 1 🔥🔥🔥🔥

IVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOUR VIDEO

For metyr, The reason the music leaves is because the second phase sound is the first audio we discovered from a black hole

You should rank the bosses from weak foe ahead to didn’t expect weak foe

Raking every boss, including the DLC for me is the best video to go next

I find the dichotomy between ur opinions of a lot of the DLC bosses and a lot others to be very interesting. Like many say the Putrescant Knight is too aggressive and attacks continuously and then there's you being a madman saying you wanted more🤣 In all seriousness, I appreciate a perspective that isn't just boss attacks a lot therefore bad, I've always appreciated how you actually engage with boss movesets and attempt to learn how they're supposed to be dealt with, it's something not many are able to replicate

If you do a dungeon ranking, apart from adding Castle Ensis, Midra's Manse, and Sone Coffin Fissure to the list, you should probably count Belurat and Enir Ilim together as one dungeon. Do a run where you save Belurat for last after burning the tree, and then do both one after the other; I think you'll see what I mean. Story, architecture (inside and outside), enemies, and the several parts where they interconnect.

0:50 that combo IS new, actually! It's also an attack Bayle uses in his fight, right down to the same ability to jump behind you and perform a fire breath afterwards to catch the player off guard, which gives them a clear tie back to the main boss of the region and a hinto towards what the Dread Dragon will throw at you. ...still doesn't make the Jagged Peak Drakes particularly great fights, but it is a neat detail to note

On the topic of Midra I wanna mention that I love how they basically just made the king in yellow for their design, might feel unfitting for frenzied flame but it feels incredibly lordly if that at all makes sense.

Gotta say man, I'm glad you decided to start talking in your videos. Your voice is very soothing.

Good list, made me sad to see my fav Midra not higher tho

metyr lasers are fine one you understand that one of them you go farther from the boss to dodge and the other you go right up to the outside of the center circle.

This is very likely a skill issue on my end, but Rellana to me seems like she has 2 different followups to 1 attack with 1 issue. One of those followups is unreactable and you have to predict it and roll in advance, while the other punishes that exact same roll timing. I only fought her once so its likely just me not understanding the fight yet. Great list and video btw, as usual.

As Felix biederman put it, "messmer was left in a hot car"

Messmer by far in my top 5 best FS bosses ❤ he will stay there for long in his sweet spot along with ludwig and gael. These 3 are just pure art in boss design

I pretty much agree with all of your points on messmer lol, he doesn’t do anything the best but pretty much every single aspect of him is amazing

Hey man just letting you know there is also a demi human queen boss in the cerulean Coast as well. Close to the west site of grace

i personally wish midra was more chaotic too. and by that i dont mean just having wild crazy attacks, but as it being constantly changing. like being able to switch between extreme agressiveness and extreme passiveness at intervals, with some attacks being as clean and methodic as those we have currently, and some being just insane as hell like the radahn clones, with multiple different combo varieties.

I'm at Radahn now and, like you, I pick Messmer as my favorite boss. Just the lore, the presentation and the mechanics all come together to create one of the best bosses FromSoft's ever done. Dude earned his spot as the DLC flagship character. Worst for me was Sessesax or however you spell it. After like 20 deaths, I just rode circles around him on Torrent and slapped him till he died. He was way too hard for all the wrong reasons. At least Bayle made up for it.

Midra is a fine balance of fair while threatening you with a status that if proc'ed will more than likely get you killed. To make the fight more chaotic you'd have to introduce some randomly firing gimmicks that would get people more mad than impressed

Swap Rellana and Midra, and Bayle and Radahn and you've got my list pretty much. Don't care for Rellana much, think her endless combos are kind of tiring after a while, and after beating her 4 times it's pretty 50/50 on if I'm going to get stuck on her for an age or I'll stomp in under 5 tries.

I have the same top 5 just in a different order 1. Messmer great in every way 2. Midra i love the horror and dread around this fight just wish he was a bit harder 3. Bayle best dragon boss in the series 4. Rellana great moveset phase 2 looks so cool 5. Radahn thought he was bs at first but he has really grown on me

You can dodge Metyr's rotating double laser by just standing right next to it.

Messmer is definitely my favorite boss in the dlc, lore wise and fight wise

No fuckin way, my Igon meme made it into the video! Fuck yeah!

Midra is my favorite boss but I do agree they could've (and should've) done more with him. One more sword swing combo would add a lot more variety to his rather limited moveset. In phase two I feel like the fire should last way longer than it does. You can roll back into the fire and be fine a large majority of times, but I feel like they should've made positioning/dodge direction matter for his flame attacks. Like his 6 (7?) hit flame combo, the flames barely play apart in it, but if they last for the next swing, the player can't just dodge in one direction around the boss and has to plan out their movements more thoroughly.

You were my last hope, magicat, but it seems i will forever be the only person that loves gaius(still great vid)

Metyr's black hole laser is either a miniature gamma ray burst or quasar, the correct term would be a relativistic jet I think. That alone makes it the coolest attack in the series (while also being pretty bad gameplay wise)

bayle and putrescent knight had me literally fuming

Let's go, I've beat the DLC in like a week and I waited for the video since, but the video is finally here. Keep up the great work!

Maybe im just a dirty mimic tear user but I think once people figure out radahn his ranking will shoot way up in people’s estimations, especially if they fix the performance issues and maybe increase the wind up on the cross slash (psa, the first hit doesn’t do much damage and it’s better to get hit by the first part than the 2nd)

I really loved the Messmer fight I just wanted it to be longer. Maybe make each phase as a whole health bar. It would add a little more difficulty and make the fight readout prime

Your feelings on Midra match mine. He could've been an S-tier fight if he had just a couple cooler moves or was maybe a little more wild. I'm glad to know I wasn't the only one who felt that way.

Messmer is awesome, but for me personally he had one issue, which was balance of difficulty between his moves. I fought him at blessing lvl 12 (a bit high maybe?) and actually got him down to 10% hp within few tries, only to die to his SNAKE EXPLOSION. Que over an hour of me basically dying to this one move over and over again. I don't know what it is, but I find his moveset quite intuitive, except for that fucking SNAKE EXPLOSION. In the end, I never learned how to avoid it, I just got a lucky stance break to knock him out of it on my winning attempt. Kinda cheapens my personal experience, like Waterfowl did.

at the beginning of my fight with messmer i was like “wow this fight is awesome” and then 7 hours later when i beat him i was capable of murder

Just wish I could see what’s going on in the Radahn fight. Kinda lacks some visual clarity. Which is a shame, because he’s like a roided out Godfrey.

Nicely done I approve

FINALLY, someone appreciates Rellana as one of the best bosses of this DLC. Earned a sub just for that ahhahah. Great video!