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The Oath of Feanor - Jenny Dolfen
maglor & elrond - Jenny Dolfen
Maglor Casts a Silmaril into the Sea - Ted Nasmith
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under the same moon maglor - Sara Morello
Oath of Feanor - Bella Bergolts
The Oath of Fëanor - Ted Nasmith
The Kinslaying - Ted Nasmith
Burning Ships - Ted Nasmith
the burning of the ships - aegeri
Maedhros son of Feanor - Jenny Dolfen
Battle - Anke Eissmann
Vessels - Šárka Škorpíková
feanor and the silmarils - Sara Morello
Fingon and Gothmog - Ted Nasmith
The Hour of His Vengeance - Feanor - Peet
maglor battle - Jenny Dolfen
death of feanor - Jenny Dolfen
The Oath of Feanor - Jenny Dolfen
Maedhross Rescue from Thangorodrim - Ted Nasmith
Thangorodrim - chmiel
Maedhros and Maglor - Jenny Dolfen
White Lady of the Noldor - Marya Filatova
Maglor - Jenny Dolfen
The Kinslaying at Alqualonde - Ted Nasmith
Maglor - aegeri
maglor worlds of resonance - alystraea
The Coming of Glaurung - Alan Lee
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Maglor slew Uldor - Jenny Dolfen
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Death of Naugladur - Steamey
beren luthien - Jenny Dolfen
Feanor - Catherine Karina Chmiel
beren and luthien - Turner Mohan
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Descendants of Thingol - Jenny Dolfen
Elwing - Marya Filatova
Elwing receives the survivors of Gondolin - Alan Lee
Ulmoelwing - Jenny Dolfen
And Maglor took pity upon them - Catherine Karina Chmiel
Maglor & Elrond - Jenny Dolfen
As Little might be thought - Jenny Dolfen
Maedhros and Maglor See the Silmaril Rise - Kip Rasmussen
earendil and elwing - steamey
Earendil Searches Tirion - Ted Nasmith
star of earendil - matej cadil
Maglor in hiding - Alystraea
Tulkas Chaining Morgoth - Kip Rasmussen
Maglor - Catherine Karina Chmiel
Feanor's first son - Marya Filatova
Manwe and Varda - Šárka Škorpíková
Maedhros - Bella Bergolts
Maglor - Bella Bergolts
Maedhros and Maglor prepared to defend themselves and die - Catherine Karina Chmiel
they prepared to die, maglor & maedhros - Jenny Dolfen
Maedhros - Lída Holubová
Maglor outcast - Alystraea
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Maedhros casts Himself into a Chasm - Ted Nasmith
Maglor by the Sea - Marya Filatova
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@imogencory9591
@imogencory9591 Жыл бұрын
From this video I am just realising how horrible Elrond's life actually was the grand scheme of things. He lost both his parents when he was a child, watched many of his kin being slaughtered. Then when he grew older lost his adopted father due to the Silmaril. He then lost his twin brother to mortality. And when all is good centuries later he loses his wife and then more centuries after that he is going to lose his daughter to mortality just as he had lost his brother. So I am sorry to those who live in middle earth in the third age who believe that they have a hard life but I'm quite sure Elrond takes the whole cake at this point in his life. PS: Great video I love it when you talk about the individual characters in the Silmarillion. 👍❤
@davidlundquist1979
@davidlundquist1979 Жыл бұрын
It's times like these that I remember Eru Illuvatar himself referred to mortality not as the doom of men, but rather the GIFT of men. The clear implication being that in Arda, at least, death has an actual purpose. The elves don't know what it is, and if the Valar do, they've chosen not to share, but the great creator clearly has a plan. As far as who has the most tragic life story, that is definitely a competitive category for Tolkien characters, but I'd still give the nod to Turin Turambar.
@imogencory9591
@imogencory9591 Жыл бұрын
@@davidlundquist1979 I haven’t actually gotten round to reading the Silmarillion but I hear that his life story was tragic and I have agree with that the Valar perceived mortality as a gift of men so that life and death would always have a purpose and a meaning.
@PseudoNym100
@PseudoNym100 Жыл бұрын
@@davidlundquist1979 definitely it's Turin
@anatoldenevers237
@anatoldenevers237 Жыл бұрын
@@PseudoNym100 Hurin also had it pretty bad.
@PseudoNym100
@PseudoNym100 Жыл бұрын
@@anatoldenevers237 yeah, good call. He probably does beat out Turin for hardest life.
@adpirtle
@adpirtle Жыл бұрын
Maglor is my second favorite of the sons of Fëanor. He comes off as a gentler soul than his brothers, though of course he's still guilty of the kinslayings.
@marionbaggins
@marionbaggins Жыл бұрын
Also he raised Elrond and Elros... He is Close to S tier, if I tier list the Feanor's Family.
@AETHL
@AETHL Жыл бұрын
Who is your favourite son? Mine is Maedhros
@SonofSethoitae
@SonofSethoitae Жыл бұрын
@@AETHL It's a pity that Maedhros and Maglor had to live with The Oath longest, as the ones who were least inclined to follow it.
@verte1765
@verte1765 Жыл бұрын
@@AETHL I don’t like Feanors son’s. My favorite elves among the Caliquendi were Fingolfin and Finrod Felagund.
@Pizzifrizzo
@Pizzifrizzo Жыл бұрын
​@@SonofSethoitaeTruly, Maedhros especially can come across as cold and ruthless in his last years... and yet, his reasoning for going through with the theft of the last two Silmarils confirms him to be a kind and empathetic soul at heart, grown ugly through strife, defeat and a very stupid magical oath made centuries prior, long before he knew better of the world and the Enemy's mind.
@Sacto1654
@Sacto1654 Жыл бұрын
Given that Tolkien himself never really told of Maglor's final fate, small wonder why there are multiple fanfictions out there of him living through the Third Age and actually returning to Aman based on educated guesses on what really happened.
@cantbetamed2210
@cantbetamed2210 Жыл бұрын
Fanon treats Maglor as this Gentle brother but really, he's brutal, especially to betrayers, deeply loyal and committed to their cause. I love him and his fate is one of the saddest in Tolkien lore. My vote for the most saddest is on Turin cause really the guy has the worst luck🤣.
@DoomMomDot
@DoomMomDot Жыл бұрын
I always kind of pictured him as being the last Elf in Middle Earth, and maybe teaching humans songs based on his life, so that the stories of his time would remain and be passed on.
@jaggedjottings
@jaggedjottings Жыл бұрын
I once read a fanfiction about Maglor in the modern world. If I recall correctly, his oath somehow prevented him from "fading," which he would have found preferable to immortality.
@Tar-Elenion
@Tar-Elenion Жыл бұрын
While Maglor in the pre-LotR writings survived (this was adopted into the published Silmarillion), in later writings Maglor perishes by casting himself into the sea: "The last two sons of Feanor, compelled by their oath, steal them, and are destroyed by them, casting themselves into the sea, and the pits of the earth." Letter 131 "The other two Silmarils were also taken by the Valar from the crown of Morgoth. But the last surviving sons of Feänor (Maedros and Maglor), in a despairing attempt to carry out the Oath, stole them again. But they were tormented by them, and at last they perished each with a jewel: one in a fiery cleft in the earth, and one in the sea." Concerning... The Hoard Maglor's death is also implied: "The sons of Eärendil were Elros and Elrond, the Peredhil or Half-elven. In them alone the line of the heroic chieftains of the Edain in the First Age was preserved; and after the fall of Gil-galad the lineage of the High-elven Kings was also in Middle-earth only represented by their descendants." LotR "Galad occurs also in the epessë of Ereinion (‘scion of kings') by which he was chiefly remembered in legend, Gil-galad ‘star of radiance’: he was the last king of the Eldar in Middle-earth, and the last male descendant of Finwë except Elrond the Half-elven." Shibboleth of Feanor
@anatoldenevers237
@anatoldenevers237 Жыл бұрын
@@Tar-Elenion Hmm, I hadn't read those versions before. Is it bad that I still prefer to use the Maglor being sad for eternity version?
@Tar-Elenion
@Tar-Elenion Жыл бұрын
@@anatoldenevers237 Bad? No. I prefer the earlier version where he wanders and composes his lament, as well. However, I also think people should be know or be informed of changes such as these that Tolkien made when developing his mythology.
@valentinkambushev4968
@valentinkambushev4968 Жыл бұрын
2:05 this is officially my favorite drawing of Fëanor. Covered in (most likely) elvish blood and with sheer madness in his eyes. Just 'Chef kiss'.
@meenalkale136
@meenalkale136 Жыл бұрын
There have been some pretty tragic characters in Tolkien's world like Fingon, Elrond and even Maedhros and Turin but I don't think anyone has ever suffered as Maglor has. I'd say their fates although tragic are preferable to endless wandering filled with regret and sadness. The guilt he carried, the trauma with how everything and everyone he's ever loved taken away from him and the things he's done even if he didn't want to.... it just hurts thinking about this character. Maglor is one of my favorite characters in the entire Tolkien's universe so i'm really glad you made a video on him... I've literally been waiting for this video since the day you announced that you'd make videos on all the sons of feanor.
@Tar-Elenion
@Tar-Elenion Жыл бұрын
There was no endless wandering, as the story developed. Tolkien had Maglor kill himself.
@davidlundquist1979
@davidlundquist1979 Жыл бұрын
@@Tar-Elenion In this particular case, isn't the distinction somewhat meaningless? Whether still in his body, wandering the shores of the world, or a soul imprisoned in the Halls of Mandos, Maglor is still a self-aware being, haunted by his past deeds, fated to exist as long as the world lasts.
@Tar-Elenion
@Tar-Elenion Жыл бұрын
@@davidlundquist1979 I don't think it is meaningless. The post I responded to is based on Maglor having survived (the case in Tolkien's pre LotR writings). With LotR and post LotR Tolkien changed Maglor's fate.
@MariaClara-ck7bh
@MariaClara-ck7bh Ай бұрын
​@@Tar-Elenion Então qual e o verdadeiro destino dele?
@m2xin339
@m2xin339 Жыл бұрын
Yay! My fave sad elf! Lost the opportunity to inform the peeps of how Maglor reigned as King Regent during Mae's years of capture btw. Poor Maglor, serving as King (regent) in an untimely fashion- instead of the crown passing to him in peace, it passes to him through death (Finwe and Feanor) and loss (Maedhros). Wasldkfjsllksjfs idk, I just like to think to myself how often Maglor is forgotten as a kingly figure of the First Age. Kinda adds to the tragedy of his character. The second son of Feanor; the last survivor and all but a whisper in history.
@amanzeihedioha
@amanzeihedioha Жыл бұрын
I've waited for this. The dutifully sons are always so layered!
@luudest
@luudest Жыл бұрын
Your pronunciation of Maedhros (and all the other names) is just outstanding!
@juliankoning907
@juliankoning907 Жыл бұрын
I always wondered where Maglor would be in the second and third ages. Maybe with his foster son in Rivendell
@marionbaggins
@marionbaggins Жыл бұрын
Maybe, what would have Happened if he heard about his other foster son, became a king of men.
@Tar-Elenion
@Tar-Elenion Жыл бұрын
He was dead. So the Halls of Mandos.
@juliankoning907
@juliankoning907 Жыл бұрын
@@Tar-Elenion Maglor is the only surviving son of Feänor
@Tar-Elenion
@Tar-Elenion Жыл бұрын
@@juliankoning907 While Maglor in the pre-LotR writings survived (this was adopted into the published Silmarillion), in later writings Maglor perishes by casting himself into the sea: "The last two sons of Feanor, compelled by their oath, steal them, and are destroyed by them, casting themselves into the sea, and the pits of the earth." Letter 131 "The other two Silmarils were also taken by the Valar from the crown of Morgoth. But the last surviving sons of Feänor (Maedros and Maglor), in a despairing attempt to carry out the Oath, stole them again. But they were tormented by them, and at last they perished each with a jewel: one in a fiery cleft in the earth, and one in the sea." Concerning... The Hoard Maglor's death is also implied: "The sons of Eärendil were Elros and Elrond, the Peredhil or Half-elven. In them alone the line of the heroic chieftains of the Edain in the First Age was preserved; and after the fall of Gil-galad the lineage of the High-elven Kings was also in Middle-earth only represented by their descendants." LotR "Galad occurs also in the epessë of Ereinion (‘scion of kings') by which he was chiefly remembered in legend, Gil-galad ‘star of radiance’: he was the last king of the Eldar in Middle-earth, and the last male descendant of Finwë except Elrond the Half-elven." Shibboleth of Feanor
@Timcollignon
@Timcollignon Жыл бұрын
I believe (not based on writings) that Maglor lived during the second age on the island of himling, which was flooded as a consequence of the fall of Numenor, taking Maglor into the sea.
@mo0onlight906
@mo0onlight906 Жыл бұрын
He's my fav in feanor's children i wish there was more about him if they let elrond try to find him but they left his story with open ending
@yanuelrosell2440
@yanuelrosell2440 Жыл бұрын
Saw a Nerd of the Rings notification. I'm in.
@Eowyn3Pride
@Eowyn3Pride Жыл бұрын
The fan art for this vid was AWESOME! My favorite was when Elwing casts herself into the sea and you can see Ulmo there, ready to catch her!🥰😁🍻🧝‍♂️🧝‍♀️🧙‍♂️
@Aioradeleo27
@Aioradeleo27 Жыл бұрын
That's Elwing
@Eowyn3Pride
@Eowyn3Pride Жыл бұрын
@@Aioradeleo27 thanks! 🍻
@raxfox2394
@raxfox2394 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I also immediately thought how beautiful the artwork of Elwing and Ulmo is when i first saw it :D
@Tar-Elenion
@Tar-Elenion Жыл бұрын
While Maglor in the pre-LotR writings survived (this was adopted into the published Silmarillion), in later writings Maglor perishes by casting himself into the sea: "The last two sons of Feanor, compelled by their oath, steal them, and are destroyed by them, casting themselves into the sea, and the pits of the earth." Letter 131 "The other two Silmarils were also taken by the Valar from the crown of Morgoth. But the last surviving sons of Feänor (Maedros and Maglor), in a despairing attempt to carry out the Oath, stole them again. But they were tormented by them, and at last they perished each with a jewel: one in a fiery cleft in the earth, and one in the sea." Concerning... The Hoard Maglor's death is also implied: "The sons of Eärendil were Elros and Elrond, the Peredhil or Half-elven. In them alone the line of the heroic chieftains of the Edain in the First Age was preserved; and after the fall of Gil-galad the lineage of the High-elven Kings was also in Middle-earth only represented by their descendants." LotR "Galad occurs also in the epessë of Ereinion (‘scion of kings') by which he was chiefly remembered in legend, Gil-galad ‘star of radiance’: he was the last king of the Eldar in Middle-earth, and the last male descendant of Finwë except Elrond the Half-elven." Shibboleth of Feanor
@DavidRoberts
@DavidRoberts Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I was going to point this out, too.
@istari0
@istari0 Жыл бұрын
Excellent! I always had a feeling Maglor did not long survive Maedhros; now it appears he may not have survived him at all.
@Tar-Elenion
@Tar-Elenion Жыл бұрын
@@istari0 That does seem the intention of JRRT, though I don't consider it excellent. I prefer the version where he survives and wanders the shore singing his lament... But people reciting the history, should be informed of the history...
@istari0
@istari0 Жыл бұрын
@@Tar-Elenion To each his own of course. To me, Maglor was still a brutal person, just not as brutal as his kin. I think he would have gotten himself killed in fairly short order.
@veronicadavanzo2064
@veronicadavanzo2064 Жыл бұрын
The sons of Feanor have the most heartbreaking story...the whole family had so much potential to do good (well, maybe not Curufin) but because of their stupid oath they spent a lifetime doubling down on something they knew was wrong.
@RobKlarmann
@RobKlarmann Жыл бұрын
Really hope some production company (better than Amazon) will pick up some of these incredible stories and turn them into a series. I'd love to see a 'Sons Of Fëanor' series! How epic it would be...
@12classics39
@12classics39 6 ай бұрын
I think because of his repentance of his actions and his success in raising Elrond and Elros into great people who did nothing but good in the world, and never repeated his own horrific mistakes, Maglor was shown pity and eventually allowed back into Aman. I don’t think it happened immediately, though. He probably did linger alone and wander Middle-earth for centuries, which was the Valar’s way of punishing him. Then when he’d served his sentence long enough, he was allowed back. I believe that he, and also the sons of Elrond, sailed on the Last Ship along with Círdan and Celeborn.
@Jayjay-qe6um
@Jayjay-qe6um Жыл бұрын
"Maglor was mighty among the singers of old, named only after Daeron of Doriath." -- Quenta Silmarillion, "Of the Voyage of Earendil and the War of Wrath"
@Redmoaz
@Redmoaz Жыл бұрын
Would love to see you do a video of Prince Imrahil and his family history! 😉
@AETHL
@AETHL Жыл бұрын
Love your first age content the most, I personally think that the first age is the most interesting out of all the ages and the Silmarillion has to be Tolkien’s greatest work in my opinion
@guidocotti
@guidocotti Жыл бұрын
I'm about to insert Maglor in my One ring campaign, and this video is pure gold
@janach1305
@janach1305 2 ай бұрын
With his hands burned by the Silmaril, Maglor can no longer play his harp. He wanders by the sea, singing unaccompanied.
@johns1625
@johns1625 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering the other day if Maglor would have been able to hold mastery over Sauron in songs of power had he been at Tol-en-Gaurhoth with Beren and Finrod. I think so. 🤔
@bfkc111
@bfkc111 Жыл бұрын
I found that moment captured in the painting in the thumbnail one of those memorable key moments that seared themselves into my brain when reading The Silmarillion long ago.
@3Taumeltaenzer
@3Taumeltaenzer Жыл бұрын
I discovered your channel recently, while fleeeing the world into middle-earth again after 15 years with all the new book releases, and I really enjoy the small videos, thank you. Some questions popped into my head, while watching some videos: Do the istari need a staff to do magic? What is its purpose in the process? What do the Dwarves eat, when they live in the mountains and can't be expected to produce anything? Do they get all the subsistence produce through trade? Cheers from the land that inspired Tolkien a bit in the "design" of Gandalf
@rogershehu2257
@rogershehu2257 Жыл бұрын
I love the sons of Feanor videos. ❤️ Have only discovered the channel a month ago and I've already watched 80-90% of your videos. Great content! 👌👌
@johanabigasova6770
@johanabigasova6770 Жыл бұрын
Maglor - hero of my fanfiction on Quora and my favourite son of Fëanor.
@DrTimes99
@DrTimes99 Жыл бұрын
I've always wondered why, after reclaiming the two Silmarils after the War of Wrath, did they not bring them to the Valar. The oath was to take the Silmarils from whoever stole them and held them. If I were them I'd have taken the two back to Valinor and meet with Manwe saying, "In evil wrath we swore an oath against all who would take and keep our Father's Silmarils from him and his kin. Now with blood stained hands we appear before you oath nearly full-filled save for the one remaining Silmaril you have place within the sky above. We humbly ask for its return so that we may fulfill this wicked binding oath and freely give unto you the complete set of three. After which we will accept any punishment you decree. However, if you do not see fit to aid in our release, please send our spirits to dwell with our kin within the Halls of Mandos now and keep the two gems of light we have brought with us. For until all three Silmarils are reunited in the hands of those that swore the oath, we must pursue them until we draw breath no more. Failing to fulfill the oath shall doom us to everlasting darkness, but pursuing it here and now after so many atrocities will lead but to the same darkness for us and despair upon others. For these reasons we ask not for forgiveness nor pardon, but for aid and judgement and give freely to you what our Father so coveted."
@neonlights9442
@neonlights9442 Жыл бұрын
maybe they weren't as smart as you.
@dorothypozi543
@dorothypozi543 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your videos of the other sons of Fëanor. Caranthir, Celegorm, Amrod and Amras. I'd also love to see one of Nerdanel. If possible. No pressure. Love these videos.
@12classics39
@12classics39 6 ай бұрын
Yes, a Nerdanel video! We support giving more attention to Tolkien’s female characters, who are few and far between!
@MessDawn
@MessDawn Жыл бұрын
I have come across this channel by chance, and i binged watched it! I am so full of awe that you did all that research and created interesting and beautiful films!
@dire_5
@dire_5 Жыл бұрын
As with the rest of your content that I've been binge-watching, this is utterly fantastic. Your music choices are perfect, too!
@mojojojoslyfoxharris
@mojojojoslyfoxharris Жыл бұрын
Yeah if I was to do a show of Lord of Rings, I would want to highlight the darkness of the first Dark Lord Morgoth as my main villain throughout the show with nods to other villains like Gothmog, Sauron, and Glaurang. From a hero/anit-hero perspective, you could center the show around Feanor and then eventually his two noteworthy sons of Maedhros and Maglor and show their journey and how much the toll of the Oath of Feanor caused them to be at some points heroes (Battles against Morgoth's forces), but then suddenly villains (1st, 2nd, & 3rd kinslayings). The main plot when the story ends would be to show how Maglor eventually showed true regret for his past deeds and then wanted to make it as right as he could by his care of Elrond and Elros while you then see how Maedrhos having regret, but couldn't let go of the Oath of Feanor and it leading to his eventual suicide. If this show succeeded, you could then pass the torch to their descendent Celebrimbor and the story that Rings of Power is doing a poor job of executing currently! They (a) mis-casted him because he looks 50+ years old and he's an elf, (2) he shows no good wisdom or knowledge as a blacksmith, and (3) the show completely rushed his making of the Rings of Power because he made the 3 rings 90 years after making the 9 and 7 rings of power, and then Sauron made his one ring 10 or so years after the 3 rings!
@ericmathieu7944
@ericmathieu7944 Жыл бұрын
There is so much poetry and emotion in your videos, I'm so moved.
@retbookers
@retbookers Жыл бұрын
I like to imagine that Maglor is still roaming the coasts singing and playing laments. No one and nothing dares hinder his music.
@hazbojangles2681
@hazbojangles2681 Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one for years now!
@valentinkambushev4968
@valentinkambushev4968 Жыл бұрын
Do we know what were the consequences of not following the oath? It must have been something terrible so not even a gentle soul like Maglor would dare to break it.
@ArJay1688
@ArJay1688 Жыл бұрын
Probably like how the Army of Isildur were cursed after their death by not fullfilling their oath? There's no release unless Eru himself releases them, so there's no turning back cuz even if they go back living in Valinor, they shall never find peace. It's stated in the video.
@luukr9064
@luukr9064 Жыл бұрын
They swore by Eru Illuvatar and all possible holiness in their world, I think they simply were not able - for they were still Elves and true at least to their word - to break it
@vickielittleton6373
@vickielittleton6373 Жыл бұрын
It becomes more of a compulsion than a fear of consequences, although there's that, too.
@matthewdykeman8149
@matthewdykeman8149 Жыл бұрын
Oaths in Tolkien are powerful, oaths made in the name of the gods are even more powerful. So it's very likely that should they have broke their oath they would have been doomed to madness. Of course their particular oath doomed them to madness anyway, so it's hard to say wich would have been worse.
@johns1625
@johns1625 Жыл бұрын
By the time of the third kinslaying the War of Wrath had already taken place and the Noldor were no longer exiled from Valinor. He and Maedhros have a back and forth discussing the consequences of their oath before they take the two silmarils back and they make a good point, that all who they named in their oath, apart from their father had forgiven them and if Manwe and Varda declair and oath voided then how is it an active oath at all? But they choose to honor their father rather than return to Valinor
@shehansenanayaka3046
@shehansenanayaka3046 Жыл бұрын
I recently read the book silmarillon. Brilliant book. We always appreciate your hard work and time to make these videos. Love from Sri Lankan fan of you.
@user-ql7jz9hh1r
@user-ql7jz9hh1r 11 күн бұрын
If Silmarillion ever gets a movie and all set and done. We see Maglor on the beach narrating everything that had happened. Sad, Despair, and in tears. Then he looks back and sees giant waves heading towards him ( Sunking Beleriand) That would be epic.
@thebrowneyesofmandalore
@thebrowneyesofmandalore Жыл бұрын
I was so excited to see you continued your videos on the Sons of Feanor with Maglor. He is one of the sons that fascinate me the most especially with the detail of him wandering the shores forever. It is always such a sad melancholy feeling I get thinking of that. To have some of the greatest sorrows of the First Age reside solely in the one person for eternity. What are your thoughts on his existence past the end of the War of Wrath? I never was satisfied with just that. Do you think he died eventually or faded? Did he depart for Valinor or did he ever end up in the halls of Mandos? Let me know and thank you for another Amazing video!
@shadowofchaos8932
@shadowofchaos8932 Жыл бұрын
Maglor lives. He found his way to Himring. With a Palantir, he has watched the ages pass until the time of Dagor Dagoroth. Maglor the Musician inspires free people all over Middle Earth. His self imposed exile is to prevent anymore conflict with elves.
@Tar-Elenion
@Tar-Elenion Жыл бұрын
While Maglor in the pre-LotR writings survived (this was adopted into the published Silmarillion), in later writings Maglor perishes by casting himself into the sea: "The last two sons of Feanor, compelled by their oath, steal them, and are destroyed by them, casting themselves into the sea, and the pits of the earth." Letter 131 "The other two Silmarils were also taken by the Valar from the crown of Morgoth. But the last surviving sons of Feänor (Maedros and Maglor), in a despairing attempt to carry out the Oath, stole them again. But they were tormented by them, and at last they perished each with a jewel: one in a fiery cleft in the earth, and one in the sea." Concerning... The Hoard Maglor's death is also implied: "The sons of Eärendil were Elros and Elrond, the Peredhil or Half-elven. In them alone the line of the heroic chieftains of the Edain in the First Age was preserved; and after the fall of Gil-galad the lineage of the High-elven Kings was also in Middle-earth only represented by their descendants." LotR "Galad occurs also in the epessë of Ereinion (‘scion of kings') by which he was chiefly remembered in legend, Gil-galad ‘star of radiance’: he was the last king of the Eldar in Middle-earth, and the last male descendant of Finwë except Elrond the Half-elven." Shibboleth of Feanor
@shadowofchaos8932
@shadowofchaos8932 Жыл бұрын
@Tar-Elenion Maranwe this is the ultimate response with facts on KZfaq I've seen thus far. Well done sir! For my part of the story, I'm using the history of the Silmarillion where his fate was left open.
@R2D93
@R2D93 Жыл бұрын
I’m listening to the Children of Hurin for the first time and thought of an interesting idea for a ‘what if’ scenario… What if the Union of Maethros hadn’t been betrayed by the Easterlings and had been successful? What if the elves and men had been victorious in the Nirnaeth? Would these final actions of Maglor and Maethros come to pass sooner? Would they have been avoided entirely? What would’ve been the fate of Beleriand and its many cities and the Noldor? Great ep as always, Maglor’s foster fathership and regrets make him one of the most tragic of the sons of Feanor to me
@gyderian9435
@gyderian9435 9 күн бұрын
I just played a campaign on him in CK3 lotr mod(which is excellent and shows much love for the lore). I got an awesome story for him: he starts at Himring and was given the choice to stay there lamenting his fate or take the fight to sauron, by making his own alliances or by taking over Lindon from Cirdan. I chose not to start yet another kinslaying and went on to refound his nephews kingdom of Eregion, journeying through Moria with Elrond and Glorfindel and slayed the balrog, remade Moria for the dwarves. Then called for all the elves and my newfound dwarven allies to wage war against Sauron. We beat his armies at the dead marshes and marched on topple Barad Dur(oh and btw, at this point Sauron had conquered the whole of Gondor and subjugated Rohan). After the war Maglor was made the High King of the Noldor, I received a Silmaril from the sea and the ban of valar was lifted. Made Ost-in-Ethil in Eregion the worldst largest and most prosperous city and then sailed to Valinor 😊 this will be my fan headcanon for him 😅
@pendragon2012
@pendragon2012 Жыл бұрын
Silmarillion readers: Nothing. Narrator: Surprise, b-------, it's the f'ing sons of Feanor again!
@andrewnewell1142
@andrewnewell1142 Жыл бұрын
Then he stole a boat and crashed into Dreamland, and met Kirby the Dream Warrior
@zachperry9960
@zachperry9960 Жыл бұрын
5:30 But why wouldn’t they go after Luthien? Like I get it as she’s really beautiful and all but aren’t they driven by their oath under Eru’s name? Was there like some special protection on her or is it really just because she was that fair with it
@TheN9nth
@TheN9nth Жыл бұрын
I believe it is because they feared her, so powerful was her magics. She survived encounters with both Morgoth and Sauron, so my guess is they did not dare go against her.
@BlimpMcGee
@BlimpMcGee Жыл бұрын
yay you're back to this type of content!!
@mohad2760
@mohad2760 Жыл бұрын
Matt can you make a video about languages of tolkien's world ?!
@janl.6494
@janl.6494 Жыл бұрын
Hello, awesome content like always. I am a fan of LotR myself, but there is something bothering me: Why making the painful and dangerous journey from the home of the hobbits -to Bree - to Weatherpeak - to Elrond - to the mountains - through Moria - to Lorien - to Anduin - to the Black Gate - to the wild lands - to Osgiliath - to Minas Morgul - to Cirith Ungol ... When you could instead take the ring to the elven harbour in the west and sail to Osgiliath or Minas Tirith and held the Hidden council there ? It would have been faster and safer! MAP ! (No Orcs / Balrogs / mad Wizards / Ring wraiths / Flying beasts / giant Spiders / Cave trolls, etc.)
@joantiquina
@joantiquina Жыл бұрын
The hobbits didn’t know they were going to have a meeting in Rivendell, Gandalf just told them to go there. And I think the others just came there by chance.
@richardamankwah4393
@richardamankwah4393 Жыл бұрын
This is far the best video about Feanor's sons. Even if Maedhros is surely the one with the most entertaining life. Thank you
@guyr3618
@guyr3618 Жыл бұрын
Oh, for a complete version of the Lay of the flight of the Noldor...
@allisonkreutzberg6079
@allisonkreutzberg6079 Жыл бұрын
Love some videos on the sons of Feanor ❤. I often wonder what became of Maglor in the end. Did he ever make it to the halls of Mandos or is he still wandering the coast out there? I tend to think he’s stuck in Middle Earth. Love to hear theories on this though because it’s definitely left open!
@kevinmoore4845
@kevinmoore4845 Жыл бұрын
I recall the moment in the book when they finally won the Silmarils. I had a bitter taste in my mouth. I imagined how they felt...not good!
@federicaesu8580
@federicaesu8580 Жыл бұрын
Sad story yet so fascinating
@HFeyn
@HFeyn Жыл бұрын
AWESOME VIDEO, I think I replayed the last two minutes like a hundred times already, Maedhros and Maglors story is my favourite bit in Tolkien's writing. What's the background music?
@jaysgamingcorner8539
@jaysgamingcorner8539 Жыл бұрын
Another great video about an interesting character, awesome!
@johnquach8821
@johnquach8821 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Is it possible that Magolor from Kirby is named after Maglor from Tolkien? Or is this just coincidental?
@613-shadow9
@613-shadow9 Жыл бұрын
isn't he after some gem-like maguffins?
@johnquach8821
@johnquach8821 Жыл бұрын
@@613-shadow9 The Master Crown... which possesses him and gives him more power.
@randomsheep2949
@randomsheep2949 Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this
@laurelelasselin
@laurelelasselin Жыл бұрын
Yesss Maglor, my favourite Fëanorian
@kotarojujo2737
@kotarojujo2737 Жыл бұрын
my headcanon is, Maglor still alive with us in Modern Times.
@SWOTHDRA
@SWOTHDRA Ай бұрын
He is, I wonder if he has offspring, another missed oppertunity for tolkien
@optillian4182
@optillian4182 Жыл бұрын
Not to be confused with the Kirby character Magolor.
@lucky_1954
@lucky_1954 11 ай бұрын
I used to get their names mixed up all the time lol
@AriseNBMen
@AriseNBMen Жыл бұрын
Cover this! Did Aragorn make a critical error in aiming for Weathertop? That's the one place everyone knew about. He could've led the hobbits clear of it in the wilderness on the north, shooting the gap past the Nazgul to Rivendell unscathed.
@RedYoshiGamer2
@RedYoshiGamer2 Жыл бұрын
Hey, I have a question for you, where do you get the music you use in your videos? Thanks!
@gregorykollarus8190
@gregorykollarus8190 Жыл бұрын
Love it thanks for all the info!!!!
@UrduFootball99
@UrduFootball99 Жыл бұрын
If their oath was so serious then why didn't feonorians attack Luthien and take the silmaril of beren🤔🤔
@valentinkambushev4968
@valentinkambushev4968 Жыл бұрын
Because even the oath said "Oh HELL NO!" when it learned that Luthien has the silmaril.
@samuelvine
@samuelvine Жыл бұрын
I can't decide if the answer to this is if the Sons of Feanor feared Luthien, or loved her - or maybe both.
@valentinkambushev4968
@valentinkambushev4968 Жыл бұрын
@@samuelvine I am sure even Beten feared Luthien. I mean who wouldn't?
@UrduFootball99
@UrduFootball99 Жыл бұрын
@@valentinkambushev4968 sons of feanor goes against Valars Gods to steal two silmarils but why the didn't go against Luthien 😒😒
@valentinkambushev4968
@valentinkambushev4968 Жыл бұрын
@@UrduFootball99 the Valar are forbidden for hurting the children of Eru, unlike Luthien.
@anamarija9320
@anamarija9320 Жыл бұрын
Waiting for Fingon video:)
@axbx1789
@axbx1789 Жыл бұрын
Hey :) It would be really cool to also have references to former or newer versions of the Silmarillion as in the Lost Tales
@garrettcantrell1034
@garrettcantrell1034 Жыл бұрын
Another great video
@garmisra7841
@garmisra7841 8 ай бұрын
I dont know if its just me but theres one picture of Feanor swearing the oatb with his sons where he looks like Benedict Cumberbatch. Dream casting right there!
@UrduFootball99
@UrduFootball99 Жыл бұрын
Please make a video on Tulkas the valar😑😑😑
@handsomefatboy
@handsomefatboy Жыл бұрын
How long did Maglor live? Did he make it to the 3rd age?
@BichinAround
@BichinAround Жыл бұрын
Great video! Keep it up!
@TarMody
@TarMody Жыл бұрын
Due to the immortality of the elves, it is possible that Maglor was alive until the end of the Third Age, but it is possible that he withered in later ages, as the phenomenon of fading applies to him like all elves.
@Tar-Elenion
@Tar-Elenion Жыл бұрын
Tolkien changed the story while writing LotR, Maglor killed himself.
@General12th
@General12th Жыл бұрын
Hi Nerd!
@markbroton
@markbroton Жыл бұрын
Love the video,what is the background song you use,I love it
@FilmakerGamerJonttu
@FilmakerGamerJonttu Жыл бұрын
Imagine Maglor still wandering the shores of Middle-Earth way into the Third Age and beyond.
@ryanvdz
@ryanvdz Жыл бұрын
Where did you find that map of Beleriand? I found one just like it on DeviantArt (by user LamaArcana) but it's in Italian.
@axbx1789
@axbx1789 Жыл бұрын
Oh and. Hypothetically if he "ever wandered the shores", he must have drowned with beleriand thus returning to Valinor.
@julesbedard6046
@julesbedard6046 Жыл бұрын
Maybe, but I don't think Beleriand sank in a day like Numenor did. It probably sank from the large-scale destruction caused by the War of Wrath over 40 years. Maglor probably would've had time to move away - if he wanted to.
@Tar-Elenion
@Tar-Elenion Жыл бұрын
While Maglor in the pre-LotR writings survived (this was adopted into the published Silmarillion), in later writings Maglor perishes by casting himself into the sea: "The last two sons of Feanor, compelled by their oath, steal them, and are destroyed by them, casting themselves into the sea, and the pits of the earth." Letter 131 "The other two Silmarils were also taken by the Valar from the crown of Morgoth. But the last surviving sons of Feänor (Maedros and Maglor), in a despairing attempt to carry out the Oath, stole them again. But they were tormented by them, and at last they perished each with a jewel: one in a fiery cleft in the earth, and one in the sea." Concerning... The Hoard Maglor's death is also implied: "The sons of Eärendil were Elros and Elrond, the Peredhil or Half-elven. In them alone the line of the heroic chieftains of the Edain in the First Age was preserved; and after the fall of Gil-galad the lineage of the High-elven Kings was also in Middle-earth only represented by their descendants." LotR "Galad occurs also in the epessë of Ereinion (‘scion of kings') by which he was chiefly remembered in legend, Gil-galad ‘star of radiance’: he was the last king of the Eldar in Middle-earth, and the last male descendant of Finwë except Elrond the Half-elven." Shibboleth of Feanor
@samwisefamgee
@samwisefamgee Жыл бұрын
A fitting end, for a few magic rocks and the fools who killed to hoard them. At least they saw the error of their ways before the end.
@anurag6992
@anurag6992 Жыл бұрын
Make a video on tulkas and mandos please....i have been requesting repeatedly.
@Warhammerdude980
@Warhammerdude980 Жыл бұрын
This has been on my mind for years. The Moriquendi elves aka the Dark Elves are named since they never beheld the light of the trees. Would that make any elf who has never seen the trees technically of the Moriquendi even if they were born after the trees were destroyed? Would Legolas then technically be of the Moriquendi as with Elrond? What do you think?
@michaelblower7363
@michaelblower7363 2 ай бұрын
Not sure if it's been debunked or not but I am quite convinced that The Arkenstone, excavated from Erebor, is in fact the Silmaril of Maedhros. It would be a great nod to the First Age legends and tie it with The Hobbit story. ^_^
@Mantaur104
@Mantaur104 25 күн бұрын
I think it has been debunked. Maedhros threw himself into a chasm in Beleriand, while the Arkenstone was discovered in Erebor, a LONG way away. Also, the silmarils glow on their own, while the Arkenstone only reflects light. Finally, very few living creatures could hold a silmaril and not be hurt by it, while the Arkenstone is handled by many dwarves and Bilbo and slept on/beside Smaug; at least the latter would definitely be burned by it.
@Lifeperhour94
@Lifeperhour94 Ай бұрын
All they had to do was renounce their oath. Their father had died. So did their oath with him.
@istari0
@istari0 Жыл бұрын
Let's face it, in any other Elven family, Maglor is the one no other family member ever wants to talk about because of all his evil deeds. Only in comparison to his father and brothers does he come off looking at all favorable. Given the propensity of his line to get themselves killed, I doubt he lived long after the War of Wrath.
@cagedstuntmanpc2419
@cagedstuntmanpc2419 Жыл бұрын
Misdeeds more like war crimes.
@danjarvis1158
@danjarvis1158 Жыл бұрын
Maglor my favorite son of feanor in my opinion he probably the only son of feanor that I actually like the others are just evil basically
@KalKoenkie
@KalKoenkie Жыл бұрын
The famed stoneyeeter of old
@SargeantRho
@SargeantRho Жыл бұрын
what is the song that starts at 10:15? i hope to know it is so beautiful
@Darkgeran7
@Darkgeran7 6 ай бұрын
Did Elrond and Elros wonder what happened to maglor
@12classics39
@12classics39 6 ай бұрын
They thought he was dead and never considered otherwise. There is a high likelihood that he was indeed dead.
@OurThing1389
@OurThing1389 Жыл бұрын
God I love this channel..Tolkien would be proud.
@monacoandsiammonacoandsiam2674
@monacoandsiammonacoandsiam2674 Жыл бұрын
And Cirdan was even older than Feanor. And Cirdan and Samwise sailed together on the Last Ship.
@AmiraMekkaoui
@AmiraMekkaoui Жыл бұрын
They should have never made the oath
@valentinkambushev4968
@valentinkambushev4968 Жыл бұрын
For real! They should have seen that their father's head was gone.
@luukr9064
@luukr9064 Жыл бұрын
Then it was impossible for Beren to marry Luthien (for Elu Thingol requested a Silmaril as "price"), and all events in the second and third age would have been entirely different; the world of Tolkien is so much like real history that all events invoke endless chains of consequences, and thats why it is such a splendid world! But "what if" theory is always fun :-)
@AmiraMekkaoui
@AmiraMekkaoui Жыл бұрын
@@luukr9064 Exactly, it's crazy how one choice shapes the future and all the events that resulted from it.
@johns1625
@johns1625 Жыл бұрын
They did the right thing. The Valar are ignorant of evil and malice and have frequently shirked responsibility for Morgoth and Sauron as well.
@AmiraMekkaoui
@AmiraMekkaoui Жыл бұрын
@@johns1625 I totally agree, the fate of the brothers is what I find sad, but in some way also fitting.
@phoenixmilburn6598
@phoenixmilburn6598 8 күн бұрын
Imagine the Silmaril he threw into the ocean just pops up one day on the shores of middle earth just to sit there in the sand unitl one day he comes walking along sining in saddness just to find that damn shiny rock again like five thousand years later 😅🤣😂 he woulf probably take after his brother and boat out as far as he could into the ocean and sink himself into the black abyss lf the ocean in hopes the silmaril will never be found again
@GiftormX
@GiftormX Жыл бұрын
My god will anyone tell me whats the name of the outro song pleeeeease
@deathstroke2697
@deathstroke2697 Жыл бұрын
Maglor may still be alive during the events of the 3rd age, wandering on Middle Earth.
@Tar-Elenion
@Tar-Elenion Жыл бұрын
No, Maglor is dead. Tolkien changed the story while writing LotR, Maglor cast himself into the sea.
@yantowaskito
@yantowaskito Жыл бұрын
I think i miss something when I read the Silmarillion, is Maglor still alive to the third age or he dies?
@Mantaur104
@Mantaur104 Жыл бұрын
It was not mentioned that he died, so unless something killed him or he wasted away from sadness, he could very well be alive. Oh, Tar-Elenion Maranwe commented on that. Apparently Tolkien later wrote in his letter 131 that Maglor threw himself into the sea.
@Tar-Elenion
@Tar-Elenion Жыл бұрын
While Maglor in the pre-LotR writings survived (this was adopted into the published Silmarillion), in later writings Maglor perishes by casting himself into the sea: "The last two sons of Feanor, compelled by their oath, steal them, and are destroyed by them, casting themselves into the sea, and the pits of the earth." Letter 131 "The other two Silmarils were also taken by the Valar from the crown of Morgoth. But the last surviving sons of Feänor (Maedros and Maglor), in a despairing attempt to carry out the Oath, stole them again. But they were tormented by them, and at last they perished each with a jewel: one in a fiery cleft in the earth, and one in the sea." Concerning... The Hoard Maglor's death is also implied: "The sons of Eärendil were Elros and Elrond, the Peredhil or Half-elven. In them alone the line of the heroic chieftains of the Edain in the First Age was preserved; and after the fall of Gil-galad the lineage of the High-elven Kings was also in Middle-earth only represented by their descendants." LotR "Galad occurs also in the epessë of Ereinion (‘scion of kings') by which he was chiefly remembered in legend, Gil-galad ‘star of radiance’: he was the last king of the Eldar in Middle-earth, and the last male descendant of Finwë except Elrond the Half-elven." Shibboleth of Feanor
@rursus8354
@rursus8354 Жыл бұрын
The problem with the elves is that they are too human. What the heck is the "glory" of elves being haughty, swearing evil oaths and killing each other? What was it that Tolkien thought of, when creating these ... pesky ... humanoids?
@ArJay1688
@ArJay1688 Жыл бұрын
Only the Noldor. The Vanyar and Teleri Elves were much more chill. The Noldor is close to the Valar Aule. Aule is known to be an impatient, passionate and impulsive being and that's why his students/followers were mostly the same. Lol
@herwansaputra4080
@herwansaputra4080 Жыл бұрын
Maglor & Celeborn, the best singers in arda ❤
@witchynerdhermit
@witchynerdhermit Жыл бұрын
We call him Kano.
@bobo577
@bobo577 Жыл бұрын
Either as in the comments Maglor faded or my head canon is that he let himself drown when Beleriand sank. Wouldn’t surprise me if he did.
@Tar-Elenion
@Tar-Elenion Жыл бұрын
While Maglor in the pre-LotR writings survived (this was adopted into the published Silmarillion), in later writings Maglor perishes by casting himself into the sea: "The last two sons of Feanor, compelled by their oath, steal them, and are destroyed by them, casting themselves into the sea, and the pits of the earth." Letter 131 "The other two Silmarils were also taken by the Valar from the crown of Morgoth. But the last surviving sons of Feänor (Maedros and Maglor), in a despairing attempt to carry out the Oath, stole them again. But they were tormented by them, and at last they perished each with a jewel: one in a fiery cleft in the earth, and one in the sea." Concerning... The Hoard Maglor's death is also implied: "The sons of Eärendil were Elros and Elrond, the Peredhil or Half-elven. In them alone the line of the heroic chieftains of the Edain in the First Age was preserved; and after the fall of Gil-galad the lineage of the High-elven Kings was also in Middle-earth only represented by their descendants." LotR "Galad occurs also in the epessë of Ereinion (‘scion of kings') by which he was chiefly remembered in legend, Gil-galad ‘star of radiance’: he was the last king of the Eldar in Middle-earth, and the last male descendant of Finwë except Elrond the Half-elven." Shibboleth of Feanor
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