assassintwinat8 He was probably wearing the one ring to rule them all, became invisible during battle.

Mario 4000 A ring means nothing. Just watch Kingsglaive

A movie where everyone but Sean Bean dies XD

assassintwinat8 He plays Odysseus who survives the Trojan war and came up with the idea of the Trojan horse. He also has a story of how he returns home called the Odyssey

Well he did play Odysseus who survives and mocks Poseidon before going back to Greece. His saga in my opinion is even better than Iliad.

Well this comment is now very real lol

"Your general has thrown away his life! And now he feeds the carrion birds!"

+Shawn Lu No, AI is still better than this.

when you face a noob in siege battlles

zfghty uuyghju Put some spies in the city and it's possible.

Euri Dc Hay

zfghty uuyghju You can in Rome 2. Just get your guys up to the Gates and they'll throw torches at it. Granted against a full garrison with upgraded walls, it'll go about as well as it did here.

As soon as he yell's ARCHERS!!! u just get pumped up haha

Fr tho he was so fucking awesome in this movie

Odysseus too!

You mean from the Trojans

Hector Velazquez no. he means the Greeks

LOL

shame Paris (Legolas) doesn't

That's sean bean

Vaas HD I would say he knows a few things, considering he shot ACHILLES in the heel.

Lord Eddard Stark -Protector of the North

Homer: "I'm going to make a new type of character. The real MVP."

Yeah but his character has 20 years of sucking coming up after this so close enough

goblinrageover I think It was actually ten years

Jacob Snyder Actually this movie was produced a year after the Return of the King(the last Lord of the ring film) came out

Chris Jiang I know, ROTK 2003, Troy 2004. I was talking about Odysseus, who Sean Bean was playing. In the story of the Odyssey, Odysseus gets lost returning to Greece from Troy because of a punishment from Poseidon. As punishment, Odysseus was lost at sea for ten years

When Sean Bean doesn't die in a movie you have to put SPOILERS to warn us about it!

me too!!

whats with the sean bean dying gag... is it because he gets paid too much, and has to take early leave every time?

PHARAOH WANKA Long live Lord Eddard Stark!!!!!

Are the Trojans on the building wall or the army charging at the building.

@@dr.robotico8500 Building wall

***** He also went to the tomb of Achilles and took his Shield.

The Trojan War happened centuries before the Assyrians developed the first effective siege engines.

you are right but according to horrible histories they would have had simple ladders or a ram those were simple and are some of the first pieces of siege equipment.

Thomas Alvarez They were probably moved to the rear lines after seeing the Trojan army assembled outside the gates. After all, why have siege equipment to breach the walls before you can even reach them? All that would accomplish is a shortage of bodies in the vanguard, a mass clusterfuck of directions and a weak spot in either the flanks, or the heart of the army.

Pimpstripe How about the trojans? Look at all this big walls we built, let's go outside and fight there.

Pimpstripe No Money for equipments i guess.

+Ohio Against The World lol you can barely see it but i saw a random thing roll across the screen

haha had me cracking up. there's one on Django: Unchained too if you've ever watched it. when they're riding down the hill during "the raid" a dude falls off his horse and busts his ass baaaaad. don't know why I notice those things in movies lol

Ohio Against The World that's a good eye there

alceushunterx was Alceus from Mytilene(or whatever it's called) or Lesbos? believe it or not, me and a buddy were trying to pinpoint where some of the great Sophists and ancient leaders are from just a couple days ago and we couldn't figure out Alceus and Theophanes were from....

You may find it WEIRD but I was thinking of a name one day like a username. wolfkingx123 just seemed too plain. So I was taking a shower, while thinking of names. I remember it went from aceus, (i think a pokemon has that name, so i said nah) Axcos, too math then a couple of words later I came to the name "alceus" and I figured it fit so well for me. And since I thought of it randomly the name shouldn't even exist. So i was proud that I created an original and unique name. My friend asked me where i got 'alceus' she said it sounded greek. So I searched it up and ended up finding the name 'alcaecus' if i remember son of Perseus It was really weird though, I NEVER got inspired when i thought of alceus, it was completely original, unique, and a shower thought lol.

....yea, if you think your job sucks waking up on Monday morning, imagine what their work-day was like, oh yea today is the day I have to run towards the wall and probably die.

Ajax wasnt a King. He was a General, but it was still an impressive feat.

Briar Robbin In mythology his father was the king of Locris. Whether or not he was living in The Iliad, I can't remember.

Old Man From Scene 24 I was talking about the movie, because several times Ajax was addressed as a General

Briar Robbin I like to think of the original source material, for the most part, even though they understandably changed a lot.

+Briar Robbin He is adressed as a king in the film. In the aftermath of this battle when the Trojans are having a war council Glaucus (James Cosmo's character) says ''Two of their kings are already dead''. Still waiting for a mini series/reboot to do justice to Ajax's character.

Hahahaha, perfect summary.

^^ This is my favourite reply on the KZfaq

Tomos Lewis Achilles was sane?

@@dontreadmyprofilepicture8817 He wasn't sane. He was just aware of the futility of everything but it didn't influence his decisions.

+KingSkeletor Might have been tough to find a girl with a full set of teeth back then.

I disagree lol

This war more like agamemnon need a strong reason to have a war with troy, just like USA with their terrorist issue. I mean, you can send an assassin or spy to kill those fucker and bring your wife back.

Lmao comment of the year 😂😂

KingSkeletor 😆 You bite your tongue! Diane Kruger is a babe.

Nick Vltrex Wasnt hector Hulk in one the movies

Simon B fuck Joffrey Baratheon (Lannister)

yes they would, once the trojan army was wiped they could dig into the walls with mining picks (or whatever tools they used in mines) creating breaches till the wall fell, soldiers would cover the workers with their shield idk if ancient greeks had any siege weapon at that time, AFAIK they did use siege towers, the "Trojan Horse" was very likely some sort of siege tower i suppose

Radu Neceaev of course they had siege weapons. A ladder is a siege weapon and I hope the one with the pick axe was a joke. All you need is archers and oil. In reality and general would not attack the walls, he would starve them out for years before he even lost 10000 attacking it. The Greek army would lose morale if so many died in the fight and they would desert. It was very important to keep an army loyal in those days.

HachiRoku i dont consider a ladder a siege *weapon* but i dont have anything against that, about the picks, i was sure i read somewhere about engineers who dig at the base of the wall with picks, and now that i took a quick look on wiki about it, there is indeed such a thing as sapping the walls, (yes with fucking PICK AXES!) if greeks were already that advanced to build siege towers i doubt they didnt know about diging tunnels under the enemy wall or diging the wall itself, /watch?v=X-E5J6LNUBU at 3:14, that's what the greeks would have probably done once/if they defeated the trojan army i suppose

If this war was as far back as its believed (around 1300-1000 BC) siege weapon weren't many around, if any at all. The oldest known siege tower dates back to 900 BC. Then they would also need the material, builders, and designs (like how tall it has to be and how many men to fit inside at once.

***** Just cause the oldest one was 900bc does not mean it was the first one. I personally believe siege towers are older cause there not that complicated but maybe im wrong.

+Kaptin Fancy hollywood tactics at its finest

+Kaptin Fancy Just like the poem, a lot of rash and idiotic decisions on both sides that got a lot of people killed for no reason.

I'm sure the Greeks had some battering rams. The problem is that Troyans used best defence tactic in this situation, so none of the 50000 men are let to the gates.

+Kaptin Fancy Hmm, that's why you cut off the city's supplies and starve it to death to force the defenders to surrender....

+Komnenit That's always a risky strategy. Troy had several water sources coming into the city so they didn't have to worry about that. As for food, it would depend on who has the better supplies, the city of the attacking force, and the countryside can only be scoured for so long before you run out of food to gather.

FOOOR TROOOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYY!!!!!

to be fair this was originally suppose to be a duel but due to hector interfering to protect his brother a fight between the two armys broke out.

Achilles

Tanner Leonard was too young to fight in Agamemnon's wars.....Agamemnon himself is portrayed as a powerful soldier in the Iliad

Then its probably the movie making him like that

WinterCalling too proud confident and besides blind rage made him just angry and didn't see his folly when not organizing his men into formations.

Scarecrow wow -.-

+Scarecrow Just how I like it.

How do you intend to take the city if the soldiers are at the wall but have no siege equipment to get through/over it? :)

The original idea was *not* to just charge the wall-- if both armies had charged at once, both would have been range of the Trojan archers. But of course, Agamemnon had just watched his brother be unjustly murdered, so he was a little distraught and didn't care.

first consider the amount of arrows, then consider the fact they didn't intend to take the city at once (whatever movie shows)

"Phsicologically?" lolz learn proper spelling first

He meant that they were to close to the wall for a field battle. They were attacking the troops in front of the city but the archers on the walls could support them without risking hitting their own men or counter fire from the greeks. Basically he knew that attacking like they did was handing all the advantages to the trojans

They had Rams, soon they would bring those up.

lol

+Taylor Riley If I remember right, the Spartans supposedly invented the Phalanx in the 700s-600s B. The trojan war was fought in the 1200's BC, or something along that dating.

***** Fair enough :P

Sparta didnt even exist back then.

The Lacedaemons, the Spartan people, have been around since early in the bronze age, plenty of time to fight the Trojan war. The classical Spartan city was founded around 900bc, plenty of time to develop the Phalanx. I'd imagine there was a city standing in Sparta's place before 900bc, but it was called something else.

+Lukas K And we'll very likely never know who they were, since we only know they spoke an ancient form of Greek, and likely used Linear A as their writing. It' never been deciphered. The Spartans were a Doric-speaking people, so they would've settled Greece early in the Dark Ages, and very likely had next to nothing in common with whomever occupied the land prior to them. The Greek Dark Ages; Hell, the entire Bronze Age Collapse, are something of a mystery.

DESTROY THE TROJANS! GREECE WILL WIN!

I hate the Greeks.

lol

Siege equipment or not the soldiers in the turtle packed formation are the finest of the finest plus thousands of archers, they won't get past Hector men to even use siege equipment. However, they couldve used their numbers to their advantage and starve Troy out.

he was later stabed in the stomach

They weren't Greeks

@@Nyx-kb7ze they were uneducated bum

You are right. And the army led by Agamemnon was mentioned as Achaeans by Homer and not as Greeks. They were all Greeks.

Yeah, they were just Greeks who had migrated to Anatolia long ago

Huh,So romans are secretly turkish greeks..What the hell?

cleba76 Romans were italic people.Trojans are Greeks who settled in Turkey.

Mutht Lorroror Cleba76 was mentioning a legend about how the surviving Trojans fled to Italy and became the ancestors of the Romans

Lucy Pedersen wooden shields and broze swords i think

Andreas Lardopoulos Malaka...lmao all my Greek buddies say that when someone’s being stupid!!!!

They weren't lol only brainwashed greeks think that

Mostly. But it depends on the city state in question. Such as the Athenians heavy basis was on navy.

+Oliver Šima Spartans were relying mostly on infantry.

Hoplites did not exist then.

+jose rodriguez and what exactly are you picturing greeks as

+jose rodriguez Hoplites didn't exist at this point, they were still a few hundred years off by best estimates.

Deukish thanks for the info so what would be the influence for the sudden change in greek tactics

+jose rodriguez Well, assuming that the dates of the real war with Troy were real, the Greek dark ages occurred not very long after the war ended. After the dark ages ended and City-States began to rise again the assumption is they decided to adopt the hoplite method of warfare. One theory is that hoplites originated in Sparta, which where freshly settled by Dorian peoples (who were thought to have been a cause of the dark ages) so they could have just brought a new perspective to the Greeks leading to its development. Thats only a theory though, we don't know for sure where or why it started.

oh thats cool