No problem! Keep up with the oil changes and you'll be fine.

It's a problem on a whole heap of cars... not just Honda's. Even older cars can experience it. Idling a lot also makes the problem worse. :-)

@@MichaelCzajka good to know

@@MichaelCzajkait’s common in other turbo engines as well but with these Honda ones it’s above normal

Thanks for the suggestion. I’ll look into that oil right now 👍

@@Sals_Garage let us know if it fixed it 🙏

@@Chris-db9vt I’ll make a follow up video on the next oil change. 👍

Which video did Scotty say this in? Can you link pls

@@schulumberger He actually mentions it in several videos. He hasn't made a specific video talking about just this subject specifically. It more or less comes up in his bonus questions and answers at the end of his regular videos. But whenever somebody mentions having the 1.5L turbo he says to switch to the 0W-16. Apparently the 2.0L turbos are fine and don't have the oil dilution problem that the 1.5L turbos do.

Nice job! Thanks for sharing 🙏

hello sorry for my angelic writing by translator. my civic 1.5turbo cvt is 148,500km, change oil +/- every 10-12kkm. 30% motorway 30% city the rest is a quiet route 90-100 km / h. oil consumption, there is no problem of dilution, also although the oil smells slightly like gasoline, I also sweep it to drive 300,000-350,000 kilometers. question for you what gearbox do you have manual, cvt? how many times do you replace the spark plugs? how many times do you replace the gasoline filter? did you replace the accessory belt and the water pump, if so, at what mileage? greetings Honda user!

@@krzysztofkosmowski940 we have CVT, have not done any of those maintenance yet but hopefully soon. Thanks for the comment!

@@krzysztofkosmowski940 z tego co widzę to w USA często zgłaszają problemy z tym tematem. Mowa o mieszaniu się paliwa z olejem. Drugim problemem jest pompa oleju która ma wadę konstrukcyjną. W Europie czytałem o pojedynczych przypadkach związanych z dostawaniem się paliwa do oleju. Nie jest to duży proceder. Mam znajomego który pracuje w ASO hondy krezel mówił ze u nich nie mieli takiego przypadku. Stoję właśnie przed zakupem hr v z takim silnikiem i waham się. Nie widzę innej alternatywy w postaci innego pojazdu o podobnych gabarytach. A cvt nie chce znać. Tylko manual.

@@doktor201 w USA jedni zgłaszają problemy drudzy mają po 200tys 300tys,kms nalotu u nich to chyba bardziej zależy kto gdzie mieszka od klimatu no i jakie dzienne trasy robi. Ogólnie sam silnik myślę że jest bardzo trwałą konstrukcją u mnie jest prawie 149tys km auto mam od nowości nie ma problemu z pobieraniem oleju nie przybywa go choć po przejechaniu 10tys zapach benzyny jest! Żeby tak nie wyglądało to słodko to bez problemów się nie obyło był wymieniany wtrysk już po 25tys gwarancja poduszka silnika po 125tys już po gwarancji 400€ chociaż po demontażu wyglądała jak nowa to stukała! Zbliża mi się duży przegląd i musiałem podjąć decyzję czy zmieniać auto na nowe czy zostaje nadal przy tym niestety względy finansowe zmusiły mnie do tego że muszę nim dalej jeździć decyzją zapadła chcem nim pokonać kolejne 150tys. Ja osobiście polecam ten napęd jest bardzo dynamiczny oraz potrafi być oszczędny zejście że spalaniem poniżej 5 litry w spokojnej trasie nie stanowi żadnego problemu! Bolączki mojego egzemplarza to zapewne choroby początku produkcji. Gdybym miał dzisiaj podjąć decyzję o zakupie auta z tym napędem nie wahałbym się. Do skrzyni cvt nie będę nikogo przekonywał bo jest to wybór indiwidualny mogę tylko napisać że jest bardzo dobra 30% pokonanej trasy robię w zakorkowanym mieście więc wybór był dla mnie oczywisty a na autostradzie nie mam do niej żadnych zarzutów, jest bardzo płynnie i auto dobrze ciągnie!

Thank you for sharing your story. I hope you can get the issue fixed soon. For a new car having big problems like this and the constant AC leaks, it’s been quite a headache to deal with. So far we have been driving with the dilution issue and just changing the oil more frequently without any issue yet 🤞

Carvana or vroom will give you big bucks for it.

The 2.0L engine is more reliable and still quick. Good luck with purchase 👍

All turbos have that problem. I had a 2016 Kia optima sx turbo I had a catch can and it was still getting oil dilution. Now I drive a 2020 honda civic sport 2.0L non turbo. I'll never get a car with a turbo again.

I would not be scared of this problem in the slightest

@@gabrielgaribay2145yes all turbos can do it but Hondas oil dilution is above normal

@josegarza7719 I agree I have oil dilution in my 2020 Honda civic sport. When I do my oil change I have my oil right at the full line, then I notice my oil level will rise. That's because Honda motors are direct Injection. I have a non turbo 2.0. My my oil level rises I take some of the old oil out and top it off with fresh oil but I might start doing my oil change every 3,000-4,000 miles instead of 5,000 miles. I use pennzoil ultra platinum full synthetic 0w20 and a wix XP oil filter.

Thanks for the comment. We will change the oil every 3k miles to be safe. Take care!

so the trick is to have the engine reached about operating temps?

That's what I do to my 08 LX noticed this issue as well, but everywhere I drive is within a couple miles of me so I may have to take long drives every now and then to burn some of the gas out if this works?​@@Sals_Garage

@@carcez yes, short trips are no good especially for this car.

Yea great car for sure! Just hate the unreliable AC that leaks a lot 😆

I won a by honda civic can you recomand my😉

I just got a 2018 hatch exl at 17.4k miles… I hope no isses for mine too😢

Possibly it can cause poor mpg. Mine is not good either.

Yea crazy! Might be on the lookout for a new daily driver vehicle 😆

@@Sals_Garage OOooOh Abarth?

@@JermsDNA we want one for sure! Just waiting for a good deal 😊

Thanks for the comment. Yea it’s a hassle to change the oil so frequently but worth it for preventing engine damage.

@@Sals_Garage Honda should provide free oil changes to all turbo 1.5 engine owners every 2000 miles. Then they'd make sure to come up with a solution, or buy back all these cars. Its obvious they don't care about thier customers, but know so many people think they are awesome, they will sell cars no matter what.

@@johnfranklin5277 I’m all for that idea 😆

"Rod"knock on overhead cam?

Thanks for sharing!

Probably. We do our own oil changes just to be sure.

Thanks Carl! M6 isn’t a good daily driver unfortunately 😆

Thanks for sharing 🙏

I know about that software update. Thanks for the info. As far as I know they program the engine to run warmer to evaporate any fluids that sneak into the oil. Sounds like a bandaid fix though. I’ll order a black stone analysis for the oil and update you all soon. Cheers

@@Sals_Garage with this issue aside this motor is solid sorry you’re having to still deal with it. Keep the content coming. Cheers

@@filmmakerstudios will do thanks! Next up is Android head unit that is compatible with factory touring amp

@@filmmakerstudios is there an article that backs this up? I can't find anything in the web.

@@carcez how Honda corporate handled this is public information. At least in the United States. You should be able to find records from an official source.

Yes so far I have been changing oil more often and haven’t had issues yet 🤞

Make sure the oil hits 201f or more, boils the water off

Possible, I’ll check it out soon.

You’re right, the ECU update is not a fix, more like a bandaid. It also worsens MPG by making the engine run warmer. Still contemplating on updating or not 🤔

its not, i have 2021 hatchback ex with 7000 miles on it, oil delution is so terrible

@@Humbletrader08 damn, Honda seems to struggle with reliability this generation. The AC leaks, oil dilution, etc

@@Humbletrader08 once your engine is more fully broken-in you will have less problem. 3k OCI is good unless you take longer drives and then 4-5k not bad.

@@Sals_Garage the engine runs too cool and if you use NGK ruthenium plugs it should help with everything because its a better plug

Salamat 😆

Yes, I get 29-30 mpg with mostly highway driving. 93k miles.

Thanks for the advice 👍

Hi! In hot climates you shouldn’t have to worry about this problem.

Yes I bought it when under warranty three years ago. Since then the AC leaked twice and this issue shown up as well. Still love the car as a daily driver. 👍

Good to know. Thanks for sharing!

How many miles has it done??

@@jedbriimc9879 38.000

@@1stinlastout165 kind of makes sense apparently the real problems start at about 60

@@jedbriimc9879 only if oil changes aren't done within every 12 months,I think the biggest problems we have here is the E10 petrol for all makes of cars!

We have a video on how to reset the odometer for oil changes here 👍 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pZZ5nLlqktucaGw.html

I agree with you for sure. Our civic is 2016 with 90000 miles.

@@Sals_Garage Sal check if Honda extended the warranty to your vehicle. I have read about people getting new engines but we cannot believe everything that we hear. Best of luck. You have a really good channel and I just subscribed

@@douglasmichel1000 thank you! Will check into it for sure.

Thanks for sharing, but I drive my Civic very safely during mornings to warm up properly. My daily commute to work is 1 hour each way (25 miles).

@@Sals_Garage yeah idk then. you should't be having this issue with that long of a drive. what year is your Honda?

@@Kagemusha320 2016 Civic Sedan Touring. First model year of 10th generation.

@@Sals_Garage what climate do you live in ??? Is it cold ?

@@jedbriimc9879 California, weather here is very balanced.

They are both great! Tough to choose. Reliability is probably a bit better for the 2.0 and it has a better exhaust sound.

Yes just the turbo models.

Thanks for sharing! Looking forward to more responses from others.

Alternative to 0W20 is 5W30 for honda engine L15A & L15B as per user manual.

@@metzmatu8409 good to know 👍

I’m disappointed as well, but it is what it is. Just gotta change the oil more frequently.

Sorry to hear. What car do you think you will get next?

@@Sals_Garage Everything's too expensive. Just gotta hang on.

@@rogerhoke3103 I understand

@@Sals_Garage Well it's hard to say Sal I wish we could go back to the days of the 2000 Honda's when everything was multi-point and you didn't have to worry about all of the issues that GDI brings along with rings sticking due to them now making them low tension on the oil control rings making cars burn oil prematurely I honestly think that it's planned obsolescence. What do you think would be the best thing to get if a person had to buy a new car now that wouldn't be subject to falling apart at 80,000 mi Thanks, Roger

@@rogerhoke3103 totally agree. Thanks for sharing. 🙏 As for car recommendations I don’t really have that much knowledge of other cars to share my experience from. Hopefully others can chime in.

Good info. Thanks for sharing 🙏

Here's what we worked out happened: Burning ethanol creates oxidised byproducts. The oxidised byproducts polymerise into a sticky goo which gums up your engine. The rings in particular gum up and don't seal properly. That's why more fuel ends up in your sump and dilutes the oil. 🙂

@@MichaelCzajka so Honda can’t seem to make reliable engines and AC for the 10th gen Civic sadly.

Good question.

😂 Anchorman FTW

It’s unfortunate

Slightly thicker 5w20

I have not. Good tip, thx for sharing.

Sorry to hear that. I heard they update the ecu computer to fix the issue, but it seems like more of a band aid fix. Hope you can get it resolved

it all depends on how much (oil dilution). How much is it? How many miles on vehicle? What oil exactly?

@@handycap9815haha! I wouldn’t call it junk. There are 2018s with over 150,000 miles and zero engine/transmission problems. Toyota is moving to smaller engines with turbos and direct injectors too. They are also moving to CVT transmissions because of the government emissions mandates.

Haven’t tried it yet. Have a link? I’ll do it next oil change.

@@Sals_Garage unfortunately dont have a link. i have a 2016 ext coupe and am noticing some slight oil dillution. i started running shell vpower premium and doing my oil changes at 3000 miles. i really love the car and it does still drive like a dream even with the dillution issue. i have been researching it and a lot of people are switching to the gf 6 oil and claiming no issues. some use the 0w16 gf6b and others are using the 0w20gf6a oil and they both seem to be getting good rsults! im nervous going to the 0w16 so i think i am going to try the gf6a 0w20 pure synthetic from mobil !

@@user-nx1zt1fg1b thanks for sharing. I’m gonna search for that oil soon.

Hope your problem is fixed for sure.

Good to know. Thanks 👍

Did you see how watery the oil is?????

@@johnfranklin5277the oil is “watery” because it’s 0-20, 0 weight at room temp.

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60k miles. I am at 85k now

@@Sals_Garage i see, i just hit 37k. I read down in the comments to try a ultra plus oil. Lets hope that works. Good luck man.

@@nood1ez Good luck to you as well. I just change my oil more frequently.

Thanks bro! I’ll try that 👍

Thanks for sharing!

Thanks for the info 🙏

Never had a problem in my 2018 ?

Thanks

That I don't know, but I hope they would have fixed it by now.

Thanks for sharing. That’s sad to hear.

I have not heard of it since it’s probably because it’s naturally aspirated with no turbo.

Good choice. Thanks for sharing 👍

@@Sals_Garage 33 years, and counting. Barring theft or a crash, I'm never letting this car go.

@@Maplecook wow, impressive 👏

We average about 30 mpg with 80% freeway driving.

Thanks for the detailed info 👍

Good question for the European owners, hopefully they can chime in. Good luck 👍

Yea, thanks for sharing 🙏

Have Honda update the software for the ECU to address the problem.

@@Sals_Garage I’ve already got that done and after that all the symptoms got worse lol

@@anthonyaceespanola7009 damn sorry to hear, at that point I would just change the oil more frequently and avoid short trips.

Do I need to pre heat my car I live in Canada I usually just leave it running to warm up for about 15 mins then I would use it . Would u recommend running it on park to warm it up?

@@anthonyaceespanola7009 not a bad idea

Thanks for the comment Will. 👍

Thanks for sharing! Yea pretty bummed about Honda’s lack of support with common known issues too.

@@Sals_Garage i know! I was going to get one of the new Si's because power is so plentiful with small mods and a tune but the fuel dilution and direct injection sludge is just too much for me.

You’re absolutely right. New design comes with new problems it seems

Thanks for the tip 👍

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1 quart is 0.95 liters.

@@Sals_Garage why do americans need to complicate everything so much?

@@zydomason good question 😆 🤔

Bandaid fix with software update.

Thx for the info

Good to know. Thanks 🙏

We thanks for the info bro...😀 But are you sure that make the problem away ??? What injectors must put and what fuel pipe ?? Thanks again for the info.... from Greece.

Thanks for sharing 🙏

Unfortunately yes, but you can get a software update for the ECU to supposedly fix it.

@@Sals_Garage I'm in EU ..Austria to be more specific and there is a civic 2019 with only 22 k Km for sale at 17 k Euro...It is listed on honda website as authorized dealer and it is coming with some warranty and etc. But i am sceptical a little because is kinda low price and usually at deasler the cars arent cheap :)

@@radudanieliacob2088 sounds like a good deal if it comes with warranty too.

Thanks for your input 👍

the gasoline also coats cylinders when cold.

@@jamesmedina2062 interesting fact. Thanks 🙏

Thanks for sharing! 🙏

@@Sals_Garage Thanks Sal 👍

@@jackanderson2773 Anytime!

Done those already, still same issue.

I use almost all ethanol free gas but I still have the oil smelling like gas. I can only get ethanol free here in Utah at 87 octane at best. Would like 88 or 89 octane if I could get it.

Yea I have returned to stock for the mpg and reliability. Better for the CVT in the long term as well. It’s just a daily so we don’t need the extra power.

Not sure 🤔

@@Sals_Garage do you know if the 1.0 VTEC engine is any good on the honda civic?

@@stevanallen2824 sorry not familiar with that one.

@@Sals_Garage how can a 1.0 engine be any good for any car...🥴

@@stevanallen2824 😆 I know right lol

Thanks for sharing. Keep changing your oil frequently.

@@Sals_Garage I just wouldn’t worry about it.👍🏼

@@SarcasticComments23 respect 👊

I hear ya. The CVT is very boring. I wish I had the manual version.

@@Sals_Garage butz I do love Honda, my wife's got an orange 09 fit sport 5 spd, it's got 200k on it right now , all its needed had been regular maintenance, and a cu couple wear and tear things, like tie rod ends and stabilizer links. Car runs and drives perfect , oh I had to replace the battery , in December and I think it was the original battery. I couldn't believe that little battery was 150 bucks at Walmart though. Crazy.

Love my 6sp 2015 Accord Sport.

@@chrisnichter9895 I’m jealous of the 6 speed manual. The CVT is so boring 😆

@@Sals_Garage Lol they are fun! And super reliable!

Sound advice.

Hope you can fix it soon. Good luck 👍

Regular oil change notting else

@@paulmalone1208 good plan

The previous oil change before that was near 5 quarts. The oil has a strong smell of fuel as well. It is a very real issue that Honda is trying to bandaid with a software fix that makes the engine run hotter on purpose. Mix that with the unreliable AC system and It makes me not want to get another Honda again.

@@Sals_Garage Its just weird that everyone else is having these issues with thier Hondas and I am not. My oil level is consistant, my oil never smelled or smells of gas, I've never had a gas smell in the cabin and my oil drains, when measured, are consistant. This almost leads me to belive it can also be a quality control issues from factory with the engines. My 2018 FK7 has had Zero recalls or TSBs. not even the faulty fuel pump recall that most FK7's and FK8's had. but only time will tell I guess. With that said though, I have adapted my habbits as much as possible to avoid the oil dilution issue, which honestly should not be a thing. And when I got my FK7 new I followed the break in period religiously. so idk.

@@Kagemusha320 I’m very happy you haven’t had any issues so far. How about your AC? That one seems more common of a problem.

@@Sals_Garage AC blows cold. Altohugh I've noticed the airflow is pretty weak on these FK7's. Although on really warm days it does take a couple minutes to blow really cold but that seems kind of ligical with a sun baked car. My fiances sedan however had a low AC charge from factory. The dealership determined this and charged her AC for free.

@@Kagemusha320 thanks for sharing! 🙏

LOL, of course they say that to their loyal customers

Yessir

Good point 😆 thx for sharing.

Yea 😢

How so

Too much work, I’ll leave that to a lawyer 👍

i have a 2019 honda civic with 20k miles and i got in a crash , the crash was on the passenger side I cant get it to start up

Sorry to hear. Hope you’re ok. I don’t know anything about an intertia switch unfortunately.