Honda does build some of the best engines going back decades. I bought a 2006 Odyssey with 150K miles 7 years ago. I started getting random misfire codes. Changed spark plugs and coils, problem continued. Took it to the dealership as I figured they'd find the issue with Honda specific computers and Honda trained and certified techs. First time I took it in they said the misfire is so minimal it's barely registering on their computers. They erased the code and sent me on my way. A few months later the same codes popped up again. I took it back. They recommended I do a valve adjustment and that this "should" correct the issue. After doing some research I confirmed these J series V6's do require it after 100-150k miles. At this point the van has somewhere around 180k miles so I figured what the heck. If it will correct the issue and it needs it anyway then it's worth the $800 they quoted me. Another few months go by and the codes come back! Now I'm getting agitated. I go back a 3rd time and they give me the same story, it's minimal and not affecting the engine. Now I take to the forums and start doing some more digging. Turns out Honda's fuel saving feature, VCM, was the culprit. After learning of all the problems this system caused in multiple models (Pilot, Ridgeline, Accord) I decided to take matters into my own hands. I followed the many recommendations of installing a VCM Muzzler. Holy cow! This little device that cost less than $200 fixed the issue! The van is now well over 200k miles and running like a champ. I called the dealership and asked them why no one thought of suggesting VCM was the issue. I told them I found service bulletins from Honda about the issues VCM causes and even a class action lawsuit to have piston rings replaced! But unfortunately for me that covered only certain models starting in 2008. Moral of the story, Honda along with many other manufacturers build really good engines but screw them up with all these fuel economy systems that eventually end up causing extreme damage which will cost way more to fix than any "savings" you may have gotten. Of course by the time the problems arise you are probably out of warranty. I consider myself lucky that someone other than Honda figured out a simple and economical solution. Knowledge is power. If you plan on keeping your vehicles long term, educate yourselves! (Sorry for the long post, it's just aggravating to see another round of problems cropping up on otherwise really good engines, all in the name of trying to get 1-2 mpg savings, which the everyday consumer doesn't really see or benefit from anyway!)

I would stay away from all mainstream small turbo engines and try to get a 2 liter - 2.5 liter non- turbo if possible

I have a 2016 civic ex-t with a 1.5 turbo and have 188k and have had no issues with this. I do have a longer commute to work, so this is probably why my car hasn’t had issues.

Wow -a great thorough explanation - This ties together in a very comprehensive way a few things I had heard before. Many thanks!

I tip my hat to you sir! Great job explaining the mechanical issue and giving Honda owners several workable solutions 😊. Excellent

We live in Montana, not many short trips, and we had oil dilution issues on a 16 and 18 Crv's with the 1.5 T. Oil was always way over full and smelled very strong of gasoline. Didn't think we had issues until I started checking oil myself. The worst part was the response we had from Honda. Deny, deny, deny. I traded for a 19 Passport with the N/A six cylinder engine.

Thank God for sensible explanations and no over-dubbed thumping music.

Thank you explaining why there are issues with the 1.5t and how to minimize or avoid future engine problems. I got the 1.5t with 26k on it, now approaching 56k. I live in California and most of my driving is highway. I haven't experienced any issues yet and have changed the oil every 5k. I hardly ever drive in sport mode pushing the engine hard, and I've had fuel injection service as recommended and using high octane fuel. Great performance thus far. Hopefully it continues as maintenance is done. Once again, thank you for educating me about this engine.

The carbon is not due to efficiency, its due to direct injection and the recirc.

Low tension piston rings are probably also a factor. All manufacturers are struggling with this as rings are the primary source of friction in engines.

Had the same issues in the first mazda DI platform. We ended up using a different oil solution (generally anything formulated for euro spec engines and/or everything dexos 1 and above.) oh and ventilation of the block with catch cans.

Awesome information! I follow several automotive channels and this is the first time I see one of your videos. Thanks for this awesome explanation! Cheers!

Just bought a new '23 Civic sport hatch a few weeks ago and opted for the 2.0L NA engine as I've never trusted the reliability of these tiny turbos. Sounds like I made the right choice

Great information. The nostalgia for the 2.4 stronger than ever.

I must say this for me this was one of the best talks ive herd on this problem thank you very much someone that knowd what there talking about cheers. 😊

Thank you for such an informative video, we need more honest caring auto specialists.

This is by far the BEST summary I have found out here so far. What are your thoughts on the Fuel Injector model/manufacturer change? And have you seen failing fuel injectors? What about fouled spark plugs? We are at our wit's end with a Honda dealership in the greater Houston area and hoping to find an independent mechanic like yours that we can trust. They are refusing to apply any of the Honda Service Bulletin's / software updates to our car because the service manager told us "they don't work.

Great video! Thanks for all the "Look For" information as well as what we can do to help mitigate a huge problem. Also, 5000 miles is an easy number to remember to change the oil and rotate your tires. Thanks for the good information.

Great information. Well done

Very good video on this issue! Thanks for your honesty, info and help! If I lived in Utah, I definitely would use your shop and give you my business!

I worked at Honda's emission lab. I saw all of the current production engines do this in certain conditions. Direction injection, short trips. Cold weather makes it worse.

Get a naturally aspirated engine while you can.

Great video! Thanks for the detailed review and advice.

Great explanation… really help’s understand the issue

As an owner of a 9th gen si k24. I have zero interest in any new Hondas. They all seem to have odd issues... and I love Hondas. 265k miles. And only had to replace the clutch at 245k and the radiator at 260k. Fluids obviously. But the car is a champ

I own a 2016 CIvic with the 1.5t currently at 110k mi no dilution issues and she runs strong. I routinely change oil at 15%. That being said i also live in Phx and commute 45 min a day, so this info certainly aligns with my scenario.

Great information and advice, thank you Sir! 🙏🏾

great video, needed this information. been on the fence on a 2018 accord but the 1.5t scares me away.

Toyota engineers are actually quite smart and implemented a nice solution to the carbon build up issue with DI engines. Toyota uses two sets of injectors in their dynamic force engines, one direct and the other one behind the valve like a port injection style. The computer actually chooses which particular injector to use depending on several engine load and driving conditions. Also they went the N/A route avoiding any issues with a turbo.

2018 crv here and never had an issue although we did receive an update through recall. Live in northern Canada

Very informative video

Man thanks for your work!

Good video with excellent explanation of issues and resolutions for customers. Rare mechanic that is honest and tries to help customers with problematic design issues.

I have a 2017 CRV and have never had that problem... I am a fanatic about maintenance and change my oil every 5000 miles or less, they did put a battery in my car a few years back under warranty and that`s when they did the software update... I have 72,000 miles now and car runs great would like to know Pennzoil product you guys use for the carbon buildup, not sure if I have that problem as I travel back and forth from Florida to Ct and we are doing 80 mph the whole way...

Thanks for the info Tom! I have a 2020 CR-V and haven't had issues yet. But I live in southern Arizona and typically drive at least 20 minutes to work at the minimum. However, while I was searching for a new vehicle, I did test drive a 2018 CR-V and when I checked the dipstick it wreaked of gasoline. They knew something was up and it almost kept me from buying Honda ever again. Mind you my first car was an 82 Civic CVCC Wagon, then I've owned an '88 and '92 Civic which were gems. Then on to a 2007 Civic which was incredible. Bought my daughter the 2017 Civic and she's had the updates as well as I'm a stickler for getting that oil change every 5,000 miles. The dealer has told me we don't need to do that with the CR-V or the Civic, and I tell them I still want it. Appreciate this breakdown video!

thank you for your information!

Good explanation of the problems. If summarized correctly, is that Honda made an a motor that has issues and the burden (cost / expense) has been shifted to the customer with more frequent oil changes, de-carbon the motor, more service on the motor, etc.). No where did the video talk about Honda compensating their customer for their design / manufacturing issues.

No dilution on mine, after the dealership did the SW update and after i started changing the oil by myself. The dealerships routinely overfilled my Civic when they did the oil change. Yes, you heard me right. I also monitor how much is drained at every change now and so far, no problem at all. Interval of 15 percent of honda minder, full synthetic only with new filter every time.

Excellent explanation…thanks

Direct injected turbo engines seem to all suffer from this and the valves getting gunked up (unless it's a dual type injection). This is why I got rid of my 19 Ranger, I'm not waiting 10 years for a lawsuit to reimburse me for an engine that ended up 1-2 quarts overfilled. Catch cans don't prevent the issue either.

I'm keeping my 2016 Accord Sport 6mt for a lot longer. 85k, no oil burning or fuel dilution. Get it out on the highway at least once a week and blow out the cobwebs

My 2018 Civic Sport had the turbo 1.5 and it had the fuel smell problem around 30,000 miles. I ended up having to change the oil every 2500 miles. I sold it when it was about out of warranty and bought a natural aspirated V6 Lexus.

WOW. I guess you'll learn something new everyday. Here I thought Fuel Injection completely eliminated Fuel dilution Problems. Thanks for the update.

Thank you very much!

Thanks for a really great succinct explanation. Do you know what Honda did for the 2019 engines to solve the probem?

When this started, China forced Honda to do a full recall on all of their cars to fix this. China is a wide variety of weather conditions so I don’t think it’s weather related since people from the Middle East were reporting oil dilution as well. There was a guy on KZfaq who posted a video last year on his 2022. He had the oil changed in October and by December his oil level was half an inch over full.

I had a 2018 Civic Si in the NE. Fun car, but tons of oil dilution. Changed the oil very early 3-5k. Never had any major problems.

I have the 2018 . I use high octane gas when I fill up. Have had no trouble at 62 thousand miles. Because of this I change my oil at 5 thousand miles. It’s a 1.5 liter civic with the turbo. Love this car.

Just sold my 2017 civic hatch sport. Had 185,000 km on it. 1.5•L turbo. Ran like a dream. Never one problem. Just traded up to the 2023 civic hatch sport touring

I have a 21 CRV and it does get cold here in Ohio too. Last winter the temperature dropped into the negatives and it snowed. I do not push my car like normal in snowy conditions and the car struggled to reach operating temperature and I drove it 19 miles to work. I hope the software update addresses operating temperature and cabin heat in extreme cases.

i work at goodyear// and we also use the Valvoline valve cleaner.. but a a former Classic Italian car tech/ restorer, i was not sure about this.... so i brought my friends bmw.. in very well know for carbon build up on the valves. and did a test,, we followed the instructions ..to the letter.... before we did the cleaner.. we took the intake manifold off the car.. took photos of all the valves... put the manifold back on and proceeded to use the Valvoline treatment ..besides killing every living thing around our shop... we went though the process... ,, after the engine cooled down.. 4 hours.. we removed the intake manifold... carbon still there.. manifold back on and every 250 mile we took the manifold back off... we got very fast at this part... but after 1000 miles , we saw no improvement on carbon lessening off the intake valves... none at. all.. i know this is only one test... but that carbon, is cooked onto the valves.. and even walnut shell blasting take time to remove the carbon... and also it is not recommended to use this product in a turbo car.. as a possibility of carbon fowling the turbo charger.. and damaging it,, and also the chance of small flakes of carbon, getting stuck between the piston and rings and the cly. wall,, this would cause premature engine failing do to the lack of the rings sealing to the cly walls.... we only recommend walnut shell blasting on badly carboned up valve.. we also install an oil vapor separator to keep the oil vapor's and other nice goodies, from entering the intake track... but that is just us....no such thing as ' fix the engine in a can ' right?

Thank you!

Direct injection and boost doesn't always mean best emissions. In theory it should help meet emission targets but there are actually a few downsides to direct injection, one being fuel droplets actually making contact on bore surfaces and being out of suspension. Another being carbon build up on the back of the inlet valves and ports because there is no fuel scrubbing action. Honda isn't the only manufacture with these issues.

The reason for fuel dilution is mainly ring seal.

I live in Greenville SC and I had this problem with a 2018 EX-L that I had. You can smell it coming through the vents but it will go away. I got into a car accident and I was able to get the 22 sport 2.0t.

great content. thanks

Had a 2017 CRV. Exact issues and warning signs you described here. The software update solved nothing. Had multiple oil analysis done to make our case. Battled with Honda and the dealership for months. Even though the dealership recognized our issue their hands were tied. Finally the dealer bought our car back and we bought a RAV4. End of story.

We have a 2019 CRV 1.5, even with the fix - still has gas oil dilution. It even has it in summer, albeit less. In the Midwest… Honda said the 19 “fixed” it, did not. We change oil less than 5000mi between changes. Mixed lengths drive, some highway longer, some short. Like video said some longer drives to burn off oil helps, minimize remote starts (won’t let it get to operating temp as fast). When possible we also wait a few minutes for engine to get off of minimum temp / cold to start using heat in the winter. Those few things have helped reduce it, but not eliminate it. Also Makes a lot of sense for more regular oil changes. Too bad theirs not a way for the engine to trap it and burn off the gas, even from the oil pan itself. One person down the street who has a 2018 crv with this issue got an engine block heater and drives his in ‘sport’ after a minute or two in cooler temps to get engine warmer quicker. Said is has reduced engine oil consumption, he also changes oil at 3000mi. Having owned several Hondas in the past with zero issues, this will likely be our last Honda. I have a 19 Ridgeline, no issues at all with oil dilution, but a totally different engine.

Great Video! Well organized with straight forward communication. Well done! I have a 2017 Civic EX with the 1.5. 90k and so far so good. I live in CA. and the weather is usually 70• - 100• year round. Would like to know what product you recommend for cleaning the Carbon Buildup? There are a lot of them out there.

I was a mechanic in the 60's and 70's in the Yukon , we changed a lot of oil pans and valve covers , when the choke would stick and flood the engine with gas , and had a lot off twisted off oil pump drives as well in 46- degree's , lol.

I’ve seen the injection time on Hondas is a lot longer than other GDI engines, the ECM commands the fuel injectors open for almost 2ms which is an eternity for GDI injectors. Most other manufacturers have a GDI injection time of under 1ms or around 700-900us, idk if there has been software updates to change that but it’s what I’ve noticed while diagnosing this issue

Thanks your video was helpful , I'm glad I stick with the older hondas, 2.4 litre engines ,turboless 2013 and older hondas are very reliable . I learned alot from you 5k oli change is the key

Finally, a clear and thorough explanation on this subject. I just got a '19 CRV with only 12k miles (in 2024!) and I was getting conflicted info as to which model was affected. Side note....I have a 2005 Saturn Vue with the 3.5 litre Honda engine and transmission that is about to hit 300k miles in the next few weeks. 🤞

Good explanation 😁👌

I'm a classic Honda fan. But sounds like Honda has lost it's way. This is an unacceptable.

2019 Accord 1.5T and no issues. I'm guessing the slight difference in tune that the Accord has had minimized the problem. I think the engine's great. It is very fuel efficient but also offers some good get-up and go when wanted.

I’m new to the channel, love your content and explanations. Just recently purchased a 2024 Honda CRV EXL 1.5T. What changes has Honda made for the 2024 engine to stop any potential oil dilution problems? And is the carbon build up on the valves still an issue with this current model year? I do make short trips of 5 1/2 miles in Southern UT. Thanks again for the channel.

Great tips! What is the specific carbon cleaner from Valvoline?😊

Am thinking about keeping my wife's 2010 Accord V6, as we have only put 30,000 miles on it. No problems, totally reliable, very quick, and gets 20-21 mpg in town driving, easily more than 30 mpg on highway (best was 35 mpg MD to Delaware on flat terrain). Not sure a newer Honda would be any better. I prefer naturally aspirated engines and dislike CVT's.

After watching this video and reading all of the comments, I’m glad I bought a Toyota.

For carbon build up I've been using 5 oz of Red Line 60103 SI-1 Complete Fuel System Cleaner in most tanks of gas. The 2011 Honda Pilot I own is known for plug fouling and misfires. This seems to be working. I pull the plug on cylinder 3 at oil changes and inspect with an endoscope to monitor the situation.

My 2019 civic coupe 1.5t has been fine so far. Im at 60k miles now. I change my oil every 3500 miles. I keep my eye on the pcv valve and change it every 20k. Im also running lucas low viscosity oil additive. Just incase. I also switched from the honda A02 filter (made by fram) to a baldwin, Purolator boss, or full , oil filters. I also use crc intake valve and turbo cleaner often as in 5-7x a year. Right before an oil change. I always warm it up during winter here in VT , and never do short trips and just shut it off.

I have had this problem on our 2020 card. At the last only change I pulled 6 quarts of fluid out of the oil drain. It smelled like gas for sure and the car had been running terrible with no pickup. As soon as I changed the oil the car ran much better. I definitely agree with changing the oil at 5k miles. I wish we had bought a card with a different engine.

First, I would like to thank you for taking the time to make this video on the 1.5 turbo. It is the most comprehensive explanation of what causes the problem and the possible solutions. Do you have any opinion on the 1.2 turbo engines that they are putting in the new 2024 Chevrolet Trac?

This is probably the best video I've seen on the subject. So much misinformation on why this happens, and it's refreshing to see an unbiased conversation backed by facts. A couple things I'll add: - On the topic of carbon buildup, Honda actually runs comparatively clean compared to most TCDI powertrains. If you do a lot of highway commuting, Honda allows a small amount of fuel to mist the intake area on the piston upstroke. The intake valves also reportedly rotate to ensure every corner gets "washed." An induction service every 30K "might" be an overkill, depending on the type of driving the owner does. - While fuel dilution is a very real issue, the maintenance minder often intervenes before it becomes a problem. In the most extreme driving scenarios, we've seen the MM recommend an oil change as early as 2.6K. That said, some owners still report problems after the software update and increased OCIs. - I can't remember if it was mentioned, but Honda has extended their coverage on the 2016-2018 1.5T CRV/Civic up to 6 years/unlimited miles. It's limited to vehicles in colder climates and addresses the longer concern of premature wear to the camshafts. For most, that warranty period has already expired.

We own a 2017 CRV. I change oil myself over 120,000 km of use, from new. I can smell a bit of gas smell in oil at change, but oil volume doesn't climb per say, or seem diluted. I've been changing oil for 35 years on our family fleet, and so far doesn't seem be be an issue for us. We drive alot of hiway kilometers, and run engine at full temp most often. We live in northern BC, and Honda software update(engine warms up quicker now) and longer drives, so far engine seems okay. If we did stop and go, I'd change oil sooner also.

The actual problem is 1.5T Accords having blown head gaskets -_- . Bought my Honda for reliability, safety and fuel mileage.. and now there’s head gasket problems cuz of the high psi and weak bolts they use, and apparently 87 fuel is terrible for turbo engines so you spend an extra dollar a gallon for 89 or 91. Fun! Fortunately how hard you drive can affect your risk, and I typically keep RPMs under 3k. Kinda crappy knowing I can’t have a little fun from time to time though.

I loved my ‘18 Civic hatch. I was gonna buy at lease end but the oil dilution issue persuaded me not too. It was bad. Also, the engine under light loads and in cold weather here in NY would operate at such a low temp that the heat would not work.

2017 Honda CR-V with 1.5 T engine owner here. 230000 km on the odometer with zero issues. Maintenance is the key!!

My brother the same issue with his 1.5T Accord, 2018-2019 don't exactly remember, but he has the Touring edition of the car, it's nice, it makes good power, car is fantastic. That said he basically runs 3-4k OCI on the car due to fuel dilution, he drives 25 miles to work one way all highway here in Mississippi. He's done UOA tests at 5k which had him at about 4.5-5% fuel, Blackstone had fuel dilution lower but apparently they don't do super accurate fuel checks, they take known flashpoint of VOA, and compare it to flashpoint of UOA and interpolate the values. Been using Polaris which seems to actually check fuel dilution values directly, it's a good car it doesn't treat oil well often falling outside of grade, high copper/aluminum, I think his only has 80k miles on it, already had all the injectors replaced under warranty.

Another reason why you should not be doing 10k oil change intervals. I do every 5k or 6 mos synthetic and every 3k or 6 mos conventional.

Never had a problem with my 1.5t. I’ve done all my own oil changes since new, the sump is never overfilled, there’s never any smell or sign of gasoline in the used oil. I drive my car normally and change my oil when the service light comes on. The car runs like new and has never needed anything other than basic maintenance.

good stuff thamk you

Have 99k on my 2017 CRV and its running good. I red lined it several times to see if it would blow but no luck .😂 Funny thing is I still have the original brakes which is amazing.

The oil dilution issue has a great deal to do with the temperature of the oil in the oil pan, as the oil approach 200F, any accumulated fuel is evaporated and pull into the intake track through crankcase ventilation system and burned. So, if the oil in the oil pan even reach operating temperature once in a while (maybe as infrequently at once or twice per month), I would think oil dilution wouldn't be a significant issue.

Last November, I purchased a 2019 CRV LX, 42,000 mi. In excellent condition inside and out. I probably paid more for this LX base model. Than many people would of paid for an EX with all the extra goodies. I did not want that 1.5 Turbo. 8000 miles later I have changed the oil at around 4,000. I have changed the CVT fluid twice already, due to it never being changed before. As far as I know. I wish it got slightly better mileage. Average 26.5. But I couldn’t be happier with this vehicle.

I have a 2018 crv with the same problem and I live in california, and now you can add an extended warranty for the a/c condenser as well. I decided to sell the car this week due to the resale value is still not bad.

Have a 2017 Honda CRV 1.5L turbo. When the issue first came out I noticed a gas smell in the car when stopped and driving. I have a long commute of one hour plus and live in NJ so cold winters. After the software update, the problem went away. I change the oil with full mobile one synthetic every 9k miles. The car currently has 248k miles on it, recently got an oil leak that I need to track down and on spark plug change cylinder 1 had some oil on the spark plug. The car can rough idle sometimes on start as oil gets up in miles but levels remain normal. Once the oil is changed rough idel on start goes away. I worry more about the CVT transmission than the engine as this is my first automatic. I change my cvt fluid when the maintenance minder says so. This is my 5th Honda, currently have a 2011 fit 350k mile as well, all went past 350k miles. 1991 CRX , 1993 accord, and 1999 accord. To Honda's credit, I only changed the CRX oil 2x in its 356k mile life. Also, never needed a new clutch and never changed the transmission oil on all 4 manuals. Not advising you to do this it is just a fun fact on Honda build quality.

From my experience, using ethanol-free gas seems to help with the oil dilution issue, at least for me. I own the 1.5T engine. I have a theory that the ethyl alcohol makes gas a little bit thinner. Also the slightly higher octanes of the ethanol-free gas might help a touch too. I drive a mix of half ethanol gas and half ethanol-free in the summer but all ethanol-free in the winter and change my oil about Christmas, if it's over 3k miles. then again in February at about 3k more miles. Then I go back to 5k intervals in the spring and summer, but more more than 5k. Also, if you have one of these engines, start up and drive away straight away on a cold morning. Don't let it sit and warm up under no load, parked. You engine will warm up far faster under load, thus limiting the oil dilution. So just get in and drive it away within a few seconds.

I’ve done Blackstone UOA tests every other oil change on my 2017 1.5L Civic over past 65k miles. It has not shown oil dilution issues. Drive your car harder and change oil every 5k miles. There is a reason the CRV owners are the ones that talk about this the most. They never drive them hard and keep long oil change intervals.

Would you have any info on Honda/Acura valve covers that deteriorate. Early 2000s more specifically. Seems like some kind of electrical arching that causes the aluminum to deteriorate? Mostly around the top, where the valve cover meets the spark plug tubes.

I live 5 min from my work with climates dropping as low as 20F. No issue so far aside from a little bit higher oil dip stick lvl with some slight gas smell. Around winter i change my oil even though i only drove it for 2-3k miles and try to go around town for at least 20 min to keep the excess oil burned up

I've worked for VW since 2011. And I've said this exact thing for years. While cars are less likely to leave you stranded these days, they are not made for long term reliability. While saving on mpgs, we end up wasting a lot of other materials which are not recycled. Asinine. The days are over where you can skip that extended warranty, unless you are prepared to self ensure thousands in repairs, or have the skills to do it yourself. Sad days

Also, there were a lot of issues with lack of heat with the Hondas with these engines.

Currently, I have the 2021 CR-V AWD with the 1.5T Earth Dreams with 29,000 miles and no issues so far. I commute 25 minutes to work each way. My vehicle runs great.

I have a 2019 Civic CI, 50K at this point no issues. There was a update with 18/19 civics, I have refused to drive my car short distances, I walk. Sniff test is ok on the dipstick, no gas smell. Salem MA.

Extremely well organized content. This observation got my attention even more than the issue being discussed, about which I now have a decent understanding because of the nature of the explanation . I would say you (possibly along with the editing) have some talent making presentations. Though you might appreciate this insight.

Good video...thanks. On you engine cleaning process is that recommended by Honda? During the cleaning do the carbon deposits that head to the tail pipe affect the catalytic converter? I'd like to see your before and after photos of the back side of the intake valves after this process. Not photos provided by the manufacture of the product your using. Thanks again!

My 05 Pilot was fantastic for 260k. My 16 CRV was 100% solid for 70k, before needs changed and I bought an F150. its been great.

Funny thing is, I’m having the issue with the 2.0 turbo. I called Honda and they tried to convince me I was wrong. I pull up the computer screen in the car and see lots of misfires in number 3 cylinder and fuel smell in my oil. I lived in Colorado and purchased the accord new, did not experience this issue until I moved to Florida. I change the oil every 4 thousand miles at this point. Just installed a new battery, and let the car run for a few minutes before I shut off. So far good.