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My bad theory is that Ferrus Manus was actually just the metal hands and he had to find a body to attach himself too

My least favorite theory is that the Tyranids are running from something…their actions do not mimic the actions of a fleeing animal or prey, they are 100% the actions of a swarm species looking for food (Army ants, driver ants, etc)

Here's my 40k theory- the Chaos Gods never existed and it's all just people gaslighting themselves into doing evil stuff.

My worst theory is that Timmy is a clone of erebus considering people seem to treat them the same

My terrible theory is that many of the Catachan Jungle Fighters dont exist and most of the regiment is actually just Sly Marbo moving really fast.

Getting a video about how each of the pre heresy primarchs would react to being in Guillimans situation and how they would rule the imperium would be pretty cool ngl

The Emperor ascending to become the 'Chaos' God of 'Order' is the most Ecclesiarchy-level idea I've ever heard.

That Yoda thumbnail. "Of Horus a clone of Abaddon is. Dark side of the warp is he"

In my head cannon, nearly all the chapters know the dark angels secret... they just play along to avoid things getting awkward.

The only theory I have is that Huron and the Astral Claws were Loyalist Luna Wolves, not Ultramarine Successors, similar to the theory the Marines Malevolent and Minotaurs are Loyalist Iron Warriors. Either that or Horus snu-snu'd an Amazon from Futurama and Huron is a waaaaaay distant down the line descendant. Huron has ridiculously high charisma, something Horus was known for, to the point he created the second largest Chaos Empire in under 100 years compared to Abaddon taking... What was it, 1000? He's got the giant, iconic metal claw. Led the largest Astartes Civil War since the Heresy. Bald. Was dead/put near death and resurrected by all four Chaos Gods as a Lord of Undivided, like Horus. Plus his name. Just replace the N with S and shift the letters around some.

I've got a shit theory, Trazyn made a deal with the emperor to let him take one of the legions for his gallery. In return, Trazyn would not go after any of the others and the Emperor gets to purge his army of one of the worst groups. So 2nd legion sucked and had bad gene flaws so was like "works for me bud, take these losers"

I have a theory that that the Chaos gods were originally benevolent or neutral gods, but when Slaanesh was born, it cranked certain aspects of them (pestilence, change, and blood) up to an 11 since Slaanesh is excess personified. This started turning the other three gods into perversions of themselves.

The one theory I still hold out hope for, is that at least one of the Lost Primarchs is still alive; either trapped in stasis, or under HEAVY guard by the Adeptus Custodes, deep beneath the Imperial Palace.

One that’s just disgusting is that the Emperor is actually just Malcador psychically projecting a figurehead.

Fan theory: Malcador never died he just gained gains, never skipped leg day and became Caldor Draigo

I actually like the tragic twist with sangiunius, he's fought against the dark side of himself for so long but it's been slipping through as the series closes in on the ending, his greatest triumph also being the moment of his greatest fall would fit the tragic nature of his character.

The most compelling theory actually is that the entire setting of the 40k is a just a facade with Alpharius playing all the characters.

9:40 I never knew you were such a man of culture, having Watame present in the final confrontation between Big E and Horus aboard the Vengeful Spirit.

5:10 Wouldn't it be better if Big E just put the Thunder Warriors into cryostasis and then unleash them to the battlefield in space where they would go down in a blaze of glory?

I think if GW is sticking with the emperor fighting Horus then my theory would be this: Emperor arrives to find Horus holding a dead Sanguinius and seemingly crying at what’s he’s done (don’t forget only fulgrim has killed one of his brothers). Big E approach’s Horus believing his favourite son has finally seen the error of his ways and regrets killing his brother, only for Horus to land a mortal wound when the big E is close enough. Horus reveals it was a ploy and seemingly has shed the last of his humanity (can also be seen that he actually was crying and this was the last of his humanity) Horus is now beginning to ascend to demon hood and this is when the big E with a mortal wound fights him. Big E is able to kill Horus before he can fully ascend, destroys his soul and then is taken back to terra by dorn. Feel this would help explain Big E’s reasoning for not just being ruthless and killing Horus from the start when he saw sanguinius dead

I wonder if the emperor on the Golden throne would be like a fountain of youth to the dark eldar. All they would have to do is stand near it and replenish their souls near instantly due to the sheer quantity of suffering.

Did any else read the thumbnail as “of Horus a clone abandon is”

1:49 Horus taking Abaddon for a walk. A very enthusiastic walk

I can see the Emperor becoming a god theory happening after The Heresy with him knowing he can never come off the Throne, so over time he slowly tries to grow his power and create a spot for himself in the warp off The Imperiums worship. But that basically became a emergency plan after his mortal wound.

I absolutely think GW are going to make Sanguinius winning against Horus canon. When reading Echoes of Eternity, when Angron wounds Sanguinius, at first it reads as if the wound is festering away and sapping his strength, but reading again I think it's implying a wound to Sanguinius's soul, an infection of Khorns rage, that is the true source of the Black Rage, not from Sanguinius himself.

I’ve definitely read too many translated manga because I got really confused why the title was written in Yoda on the thumbnail.

I see Majorkill is engaging in some Yoda speak in his title images. Yoda voice: "Of Horus, a clone, Abaddon is."

My favorite unpopular fan theory is that the Black Templars are Word Bearer successors Mostly because the Templars are almost as favored as the smurfs, but also because it's such a beautifully ironic concept

My theory is that Horus was the warhammer 30,000 and that ciaphas Cain will be revealed as the warhammer 40,000.

Rogal Dorn tts voice: I was not excited for the end of the great Crusade so I could “start building art instead of bastions”. I was going to continue building bastions and the ones I already built WERE a work of art.

You know on the subject of how the Dark Eldar are working on the Golden Throne it's actually fitting since worst case they add a battery that feeds off agony from one of their toasters or literally anything they have. Also obligatory asking Majorkill for a Mini of the Late Old Man of Armageddon. GLHF to the painters you guys, gals, and other pals are awesome.

I recently thought of that when people say clearly the Emperor meant to kill the Primarchs and Astartes, because they were never supposed to rule and Mankind was supposed to rule themselves. I always interpreted that as the Primarchs would help guide humanity and be the first line of defense or coordinate most of the defenses so humanity could live in relative peace and not have entire worlds being drafted constantly, and they could focus on progress and living in a time of peace not seen in ages. And even if the Primarchs or Emperor had to step in it'd be to make sure things are running smoothly and ensure everything was well.

My fan theory is that there is no such thing as "Krork", there are only Orcs. The Krock is actually the final evolution of the green skins, other wise known as the "Prime-Orcs". As per the description of the prime orcs, the type of superior power armour worn by them, their grasp of the language and their technilogical prowess, it only makes sense that Krork is thier final evolutionary step.

way back when the first Chaos Codex came out, I read, (I think it was in White Dwarf), that it was thought that Abbadon was Horus's Biological Son,

Big E: Calls the Primarchs his sons, learns from his mistakes with Angron to better his relationship with Corax, wanted to remove the nails to save Angron but couldn't, lets them be independent despite his vision for them, wanted the censure of magnus to bring him to Terra to fix the Webway, genuinely believes Horus to be his successor at the helm of the Crusade, builds rooms for the Primarchs in his palace *all in the same hallway*. Stupid Fan Theories: EEEEE-EEEEH-EHHH-EHHH He was gonna genocide them allll!

The 'Sons of Horus' all looked similar to Horus facially, but only Aximand was said to be (almost) identical to Horus.

9:52 WATAMELON

One of my favourites is one of the Tyranids origin: they could be a C'tan from another galaxy :D Supporting this: 1) C'tans are reality-bound, manifestations of material laws. Which means, there are most likely Ctans everywhere there are stars to eat, and they may very well be "regional" incarnations, meaning there is a Nightbringer, a Void Dragon, in every galaxy. Why would they ALL be only in the milky way after all? 2) One of the C'tans in the Milky Way was called "The Endless Swarm" (citing the Necron Codex, 9th edition). No more info on him. But... yeah. Endless. Swarm. :DDD 3) C'tans in their primordial form (... gas-like "presence"?) can invade specific kinds of materials that are able to contain them. We only know of the Necrodermis, that is super-tailored and engineered for them, but they could very well be able to invade other type of materials that are adaptable and transformable. Like for example organic matter with mutable genetic material and nervous systems :p 4) Even after their incarnation, C'tans are mostly defined by: greed, gluttony, relentlessness, cruelty, unfathomable, madening, cosmic intelligence and knowledge. Just like the Hive Mind :p Considering all that, the theory goes as follow: - In another galaxy, another "Endless Swarm" C'tan came across a breed of super-adaptable creatures, and managed to "fuse" with them. Alternatively, a Necrontyr-equivalent race found the Ctans as well, and created an organic envelop for them, instead of an inorganic one. - Because of his nature, the Endless Swarm became the most powerful when using an organic vessel, and dominated the galaxy by creating the first "drafts" of Tyranids, becoming the Hive Mind. Though having no presence in the warp at first, the sheer number of "soulless" but still living, sentient creatures he was controlling had the effect of creating this Shadow in the Warp. In this theory, the Shadow is actually just the presence in the Warp of a Ctan that gained sentience through organic vessels, rather than inorganic ones, and was thus able to "reach" and influence the Warp. The shadow would be the presence in the Warp of a C'tan, who are, as we know, not linked to the warp, but through the weak unrefined souls of countless semi-sentient organic vessels would gain a massive "shadowy" presence. - The Endless Swarm continued to replicate endlessly, devouring everything out of greed and gluttony. Eventually, his numbers became so vast that his own mind split into different individual Hive Minds, and they went on their own ways to keep devouring. Some left the galaxy to find other sources of food, the competition becoming too great, or the ressources too scarce. - The different Hive Minds slowly approached the Milky Way. The Silent King was around, and encountered them. He recognized the behaviour of the Endless Swarm, that was vanquished during the War in Heavens, and realized a new incarnation of this C'tan was headed towards the Galaxy. That's why he freaked out. He knows what the Tyranids are. He knows that the only thing that can and WILL completely annihilate everything and everyone, just for the sake of it, are C'tans. C'tans are the ultimate ennemies of everything, and the most evil, destructive forces in the universe that we know of. Szarekh did not really get involved with Chaos that much, he didnt see it as a real threat to his plans, but rather a temporary, self-destructive phenomenon. I don't see anything else that could make him want to ally with other races than the arrival of a new, fully capable, apocalyptic incarnation of a C'tan.

I think that "Emperor is gonna become Chaos God of Order" makes sense if you just drop the "he planned it" part. He didn't plan it, but this is where he is heading, and this is why it is grimdark. But yeah I too want to see crazy Sangi wound Emperor, sounds badass.

Ollanius' sacrifice could very easily be re-written into the lore if the Sanguinius theory proves true. It could bvery similar as what happened with Horus in the old lore - Emps defends himself but is hesitant to kill the Angel and gets a mortal wound, Ol jumps in between them to plea with the latter (some awesome "remember your noble deeds, Angel, remember what you are! a shining beacon of everything that is best in Humanity! REMEMBER!" speech could be written here), the Angel tries to calm down but fails and kills Ol and Big E sees that he has no choice but to kill the Angel as he's too far gone. He kills the Angel (just kills, not destroys his soul), obliterates Horus' body and soul like in the current lore which leaves him both morally wounded and psychically exhausted and that's when Dorn finds him.

It’s stated in master of mankind that the Big E has been around forever basically being the son of Abel an subsequently killing Caine with his mind. He’s showing a vision to Ra

Thx for the content my man! Starting 2023 with bang last video about the pariah was a awsome! Keep it up

I like to think that between trying to fix the Rubric of Ahriman and unintentionally doing what Tzeentch wants him to do, Ahriman is still making delicious “Ahriman’s Choice Wine”

My worst theory is that Tau was Emperor's secret failsafe backup plan

8:22 She must be one of Big E's many ex-girfriends (including Erda) and was salty that she didn't get to be empress of the Imperium.

That's a textbook "Don't dead open inside" thumbnail you have there, MK. Of Horus A clone Abaddon is It almost sound like a haiku

I was just looking for a video like this just now! Great timing, Majorkill!

5:40, also many of the primarchs were designed for things outside of war, Gulliman’s administration, Dorn and Perturabo’s building, Curz’s justice and Angron was meant to be a healer

Great Work!! I have to say, I really enjoy your videos, way more than other Lore channel’s!!! Video Idea: Where do different races get their power from??

The one where Sangunius kills Horus, I like the idea that the Emperor genuinely hesitates to kill Sangunius not out of love but because he doesn’t fully understand what is going on this was not the future he saw something has happened that has altered the strands of fate

As a long-time Blood Angels fan I love the final theory. The red thirst/black rage have always been an incredibly compelling part of the Blood Angel's lore. Not to mention that it makes a ton of sense while providing a much more tragic and shocking end to Sanguinius. .

New fan theory: every 40k story/expierence is personalized, therefore 40k as a idea doesn't exist but a collective conscious we as the fans had gaslit ourselves into believing

Wild Theory I have about the Emperor. The original Big E was actually Malcador, he's the one who wrekt the Void Dragon, etc. But in the Dark Age, he cloned himself, made himself 100x better and set his Clone up as that whole redundancy MK was talking about. It explains why Malcador was so keen to back up the Big E, regardless of what he suggested.

About the 4th theory, i remember an alternate Heresy fanfic where Emprah was a creation of Malcador or something along those lines.

I think most people forget about the Emperors Left hand the 25 Warlord class Titans that can literally un-make reality, and his plan to pit half the Primarchs against the others and then wipe out the Victor's and bring out his next favorite creations. He was always striving for the next best thing and leaving his old creations for the trash bin.

I feel kinda bad now, i just bought my first majorkill mini’s off the website yesterday. Had i known you wanted us to i’d have used etsy or ebay. I guess i’ll just order my future minis from one of those sites. Keep up the great work!

I have yet to be convinced that Russ isn't in the warp trying to rescue Isha so that she can heal the Emperor and then become his wife to unite the Eldar & Humanity.

About the emperor sitting on the Golden throne. With papa smurf's new Eldar gf couldn't she or any other Eldar, close off the the surrounding sections of the webway

Thanks for your Warhammer content. I've been binging your content from 1-2 years ago. Thanks to your content my favorite group in Warhammer 40k is the black templars. I've not bought any models but the lore is fascinating. I wonder if lutein has black templars content.

Man the current lore did the emperor dirty by making him into a cold blooded tyrant. He was such a cool and inspiring character as the savior of mankind that loved all his children dearly.

Haven't seen any disproval of my theory of abbadon's hear being an ork squigg

How people expect Sanguinius to kill Horus after getting his shit kicked in by Ka'Banda and almost dying to Angron is beyond me. Literally the only reason why he didn't die in the Echoes of Eternity is because fate/primarchs warp powers to bend reality.

I love the fact that one of the pictures majorkill used on the theory about sanguinius has Watamelon besides the emperor as he see horus kill sanguinius

I recently had a stupid theory that Nurgle is actually the last Old One that became corrupted and evil while hiding in the Warp.

Hey Majorkill i have a video idea since you mentioned that the big e would have a hard time fighting against alle the primearchs and their legions i was wondering if you could maybe do a video about what you think how many primearch would be needed to beat the big e oder maybe how many custodes would be needed to kill a primearch. P.S Love your vids Cheers from Germany

Sanguinius represents the hope of the imperium. I love the idea that Big E killing him, thematically it says big e’s hubris caused this whole mess. Meaning E is at as much of a fault as Erebus

I'm glad you cleared that up, as someone who's relatively new to the lore I'd heard the theory that Abaddon was rumoured to be a clone of Horus and took it as true.

My theory for the Space Marines after a Great Crusade where the Heresy never happened would be their production slowed down with a much greater emphasis put on quality over quantity with their arms and armor being the same. That being said I'd always imagine that there would've been massive stockpiles of gene seed in the fortress monasteries and Mars/Terra/Luna so if the need ever arise the legions could almost double in size in no time

On another note, I am REALLY hoping that Ghazghkull will take revenge against Angron!

I might be slightly off, but I'm pretty sure the Abaddon = Clone thing has been in the lore since 3rd edition (always stated to be a rumour, though). I totally agree with your point, but I think this one long pre-dates much of the actual characterisation for both characters

It's always a good day when you upload

Love your videos keep up the amazing work

Don't trust Etsy as far as you can throw them, their customer service is abysmal/non-existent and they'll ban you with no warning if you get copyright strikes :/

My theory is that belisarius cawl didn’t actually Make the primaris Marines. But instead “found” a type of gene seed that the raven guard used after istvaan 5 to help repair his legions strength supposedly the Marines created from this gene seed where bigger faster and stronger. And the only reason why they don’t have it now is because the alpha Legion tainted and stole the rest ( I do not know if this is still Canon or not)

Thank you for this one, I was actually curious whether or not the Emperor would dispose of the Space Marines like the Thunder Warriors, new to 40K.

Could we get the top 5 best 40k Fan Theories?

I know its not a popular theory for a lot of people, but I still like the idea that the Tyranids are a creation of the old ones coming to wipe out sentient life so they can return without the worry of the Chaos gods so the old ones could finally put down their old enemies

So many videos, thanks mate!

the only theory that in part i hate but kinda understand is the one that vulkan is still alive, but he's stranded on the void of space, without armor, and pretty much just floating about

The idea of thr blood angels entering the black rage because sanguinous does it first just makes SOO much more sense than them going into it because he died. They don’t even have ti change how the BAs go into it. To me it just makes no sense for them ti some how get a vision of their primarch on the ground dead and then they scream HORUS! And go ape shit. Instead them actually thinking they’re sanguinous in the moment going ape sit against whoever they think is Horus

10:05 yes, the strongest, majestic primarch - Watamelon

Bruh that thumbnail had me triple take tryin to figure it out

The abaddon horus clone is also hinted at in the fabius bile novels, though i think its more of a mocking dig at the theory

Well the last theory is pretty good I would be genuinely sad if it happend because I like the fact that ollonious pius jumps in front of the emporor to stop horus since it was just a normal man doing a amazing thing also I kind of like the idea that big e still loved horus just enough to not kill him

Anyone else read the thumb nail like Yoda? "Of Horus, a clone Abadon is."

lol that thumbnail I was like "Of Horus a clone Abbadon is" and thought Majorkill was becoming Yoda lmao

Sanguinius was also literally exhausted from fighting Bandor and Angron amongst and taking down Titans etc all at the siege of Terra.

Of Horus a clone Abaddon is.

Here is my small theory. Aximand Horus "baby Horus"was from Alpha legion. There's no way the alpha legion did not have an agent in the war masters inner circle. He was always in the background not really trying to call any shots. Just watching it all play or.

My bad 40K theory is that tzeench is actually 2 chaos gods, both of them are actually named alpharius

@9:53 I see you Wata-melon🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

To be honest the last theory I've always found to be dumb. As much as sanguinius was a beast, he was nowhere near ascended horus, dude was so deep in chaos power he was literally glowing red and was even soon to explode from it. Even the emperor could hear the chaos gods rumbling and growling in his soul no way he could match that.

I think a combination of the Sanguinius theory could work, something along the lines of Sang kicking Horus's ass so hard it seems like he dies, then emps shows up puts the mad Sanguinius down and it's revealed that Sang beat the chaos powers out of Horus but Horus is no longer a meat suit but still regrets nothing and that's what makes the emperor wreck his shit. This way we get the Horus meatpuppet story, Real Horus Vs The Emp, Complete Sang's Fate story of his rise and fall and it makes Sang the soldier that horus "kills" and causes Emps to destroy him, it also plays on the idea that as Horus dies the chaos powers leave him and he regrets it by changing it that he doesn't regret it, so horus is still accountable and that the powers leaving him was earlier. It would be a cop out to say that Horus wasn't at fault or was just turned evil completely, the chaos powers just unleashed something fucked that was always there and exploited it to create a avatar to fight emps with. I think the only major problem with this theory is that i don't think normal Horus could beat emps to the point he has to go full golden throne but i'm sure Dan abnett could think of something. I think it's more interesting when multiple fan theories are correct then just one or changing the story because the audience predicted it.

Abaddon being a clone of Horus is also an active rumor in the lore from the Black Legion books

Day thirty four of asking majorkill to compare Abaddon and Archaeon

Holy shit, the sanguinius killing horus theory is absolutely amazing. Its now my permanent head cannon, adore it

Here's my theory: Abbadon is the strategic equivalent of a toaster oven trying to make a couch

A video about 50k would be pretty cool

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