Make a simple Sanding Abrasive Paste for Woodturning

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ThePapa1947

5 жыл бұрын

On a recent video I used a sanding paste that I made. I had a few viewers ask questions about it and ask if I could post a video on how I did it. So that is what I did. Other videos have been made on doing this.
Because it is a simple process I tried to make the video show how simple it is.
And the paste really does work good.
4 oz mineral oil
1 oz beeswax
1 oz diatomaceous earth
BE SURE TO ONLY USE FOOD SAFE INGREDIENTS IF YOU PLAN ON USING IT FOR FOOD USE. MY TURNINGS ARE NOT FOR FOOD USE
Looking for a good paste already made then I recommend trying the ACKS product.
I think it is the best product of this type I have tried.
I RECOMMEND ACKS PASTE AND IT IS FOOD SAFE
ackswoodpaste.com/
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@Bramsshed1913 5 жыл бұрын

Brilliant ! I didn't think it was that easy to make. I'll be getting those ingredients together asap Thanks Gary and cheers, Bram

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Bram. It is easier than boiling an egg LOL. And being a thrifty old guy the cost is just right for me. But best of all it works. Thanks for watching. Gary

@johnmitchell1614 2 жыл бұрын

Hello Bram. I noticed you commented on Papa 1947 concerning his sanding/abrasive paste. He uses mineral oil? Is that white spirit here in the UK?

@jodyperkins3056 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the link and the video!

@ThePapa1947 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Jody, Take care, Gary

@carolriley569 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for showing how to make the paste...what an easy process!

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Your welcome Carol and yes it is very easy. You can buy beeswax pellets but that is not cost affective. I thought about using a potato grater but the slices I did melted easy enough. Thanks for watching. Gary

@tomridenhour7362 4 жыл бұрын

Made the paste and it works great! Thank you for the tutorial.

@ThePapa1947 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you and I am glad it worked for you. Gary

@williampeak8851 2 жыл бұрын

Wow that’s awesome 👍

@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you William happy you liked it. Gary

@sonyhk3824 5 жыл бұрын

Great idea. Thanks

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Sony, Gary

@bradmcnamar5679 2 жыл бұрын

This is fantastic. I can hardly wait to get the ingredients and make me a batch. Thanks so much for the great advice!

@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Brad and best of luck. Gary

@nelsonpalmer4831 Жыл бұрын

Very helpful, thank you

@ThePapa1947 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Nelson and thanks for watching. Gary

@pjenslin1 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! Made my own abrasive paste using your recipe! Works great! Work pieces have brilliant shine! Just what I was looking for!

@ThePapa1947 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Philip glad it worked out for you. So simple to do and it does work great. Thanks for watching and commenting. Gary

@quentincalabrese3300 5 жыл бұрын

I am going to try this recipe, thanks for the tip

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you and I am sure you will like it. Gary

@Ronalcock1 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Papa as you can see I found it and boy it works well. Ron in the UK

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ron glad you like it. Gary

@TheMessyStudio 5 жыл бұрын

Cool, Gary, and I love the result you get from the process! Billy

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

I love how it works on lacquer. It also works good on shellac. I know how much you like lacquer and this really gives it a French polish finish.Thanks for watching and commenting Billy,Gary

@terryreed1421 5 жыл бұрын

It appears to be very easy to make with excellent results. I will be making some. Thanks for an excellent video!

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Terry and it sure is easy. I am sure you will like it and thanks for watching. Gary

@johnmay3266 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Gary. That really does do an excellent job and I'll be making my own very shortly. I watched several Mike Peace videos prior to finding yours and he made so complicated I didn't have any idea of the proportions. Yours was straight forward and concise. Thanks so much.

@ThePapa1947 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you John..glad you liked it. Take care Gary

@tonysmith3143 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome shine.

@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Tony! Take care, Gary

@donaldtrabeauxjr5323 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome thanks for the tip

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Donald and I have been going to ask you if you live in Louisiana. I spent 3 months there in 1967 at Fort Polk. I did my Advanced Infantry Training there. Three years ago the wife and I did a long motorhome trip around the states. We wanted to make it to Louisiana but ran out of time. I still would like to visit and just might have to plan a trip. Thanks again for watching. Gary

@RickTurnsWoodturning 5 жыл бұрын

Pretty cool! Thanks for posting.

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Rick I appreciate you watching and commenting. Gary

@daviddejong187 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Just what I was looking for

@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын

Happy you liked it and have fun making it. Gary

@garythomas6866 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing, I,ll diffidently give it a try.

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Gary and I am sure it will work fine for you. Thanks for watching. Gary

@moonwoodworks4607 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you kind sir for this. Really helps. Cant wait to try it on my next project.

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Well thank you works great and very inexpensive to make. Let me know how it works out. Gary

@mitchellmanning7887 4 жыл бұрын

👍,, thanks for sharing

@ThePapa1947 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. Gary

@yvesmazny8493 5 жыл бұрын

Many thanks for this sharing. Regards

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Your welcome and thank you for watching. Gary

@huwdavies5264 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for sharing. I will be making some of this as the results look amazing. Cheers, Huw

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Huh and let me know how it turns out. Plus I figured out the cost. It was $1.80 for a 6 oz batch. Gary

@20ZardoZ11 5 жыл бұрын

this seems to be an intresting alternative to Yorkshire Grid. I will try it, thank you very much

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much and at .30 cents and ounce I like it. Gary

@RonKapchinsky 3 жыл бұрын

just finished making it. 4 parts mineral oil, one part beeswax and one part diatomaceous earth. It melted and mixed easily. Can't wait to try it out. Thanks.

@ThePapa1947 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Ron, happy you found it easy to make. There is another video showing how to make a polishing paste. Gary

@beardedwoodpecker 2 жыл бұрын

Hello professor :) Tried your PAP and it works!!! Thanks for sharing Happy turnings Yiannis(Athens Greece)

@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear Yiannis, easy to make and it does work. Thanks for watching my friend, Gary

@NathansFerroceriumrods1 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the tutorial. I bought some abrasive wax, it works good but it's expensive. My kids actually drink the diatomaceous earth. I have wax so all I need is the oil.

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

You are all set then. You can buy the mineral at almost any store. Walmart Bimart and stores like that will have it. I think it used to be used as a laxative. So be sure and get mineral oil not mineral spirits. Less than $2.00 for a 16 oz bottle. I have never bought the abrasive wax because I thought it was a bit costly. Others that have tried what I made say it works the same and its fun to make. Thanks for watching and commenting. Gary

@themiwoodsman7222 4 жыл бұрын

thanks for the tip , i will be trying this out soon ! atb john

@ThePapa1947 4 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome. I use it on almost everything now. Gary

@beardedwoodpecker 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your knowledge Great video. Ioannis

@ThePapa1947 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much I appreciate your comment. Gary

@StuffUCanMake 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the idea. I have easy access to the three ingredients mentioned.

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome and I am sure you will make great use of it. Gary

@andrewmaddams2013 5 жыл бұрын

Here in the U.K. Us woodturners buy something called 'Yorkshire grit' not any more, good stuff, thank you.

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Andrew not only did it cost only $1.80 for 6 oz's it was fun and easy to make. And it works! Thanks again, Gary

@GordonRock1 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome information, Gary. I'm sure the Yorkshire Grit people are going to be a little unhappy with you. I never would have guessed it could be that easy. Thanks for sharing the information! .....Gord

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Gord I am happy you like it. And it is ridiculous how easy it is to make. And it works great. Not sure what commercial products use but I know this does the job for 30 cents and ounce. I am sure you know who Ricky Nelson is from an old TV series and a famous pop singer in the USA. He had a song called Garden Party. There was a line I remember. You can't please everyone so you might as well please yourself. So hopefully others try making this very cost effective abrasive paste. I think most woodturners are into doing things themselves. Thanks for watching. Gary

@valeriehenschel1590 5 жыл бұрын

Making a batch today!!!

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Very cool!

@valeriehenschel1590 5 жыл бұрын

ThePapa1947 Any difference between food quality and garden quality that matters other than food safe?

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

@@valeriehenschel1590 I believe that one is considered food safe is all. There is a lot to read about it. Some sources seem to say it is all food safe. It is all fossilized plant life. I just wonder if food safe might be finer. People ingest it. Not me!

@TheWoodWhirler 5 жыл бұрын

I made and just tried you paste, it works. Plus i found another use , I made the paste in a plastic bowl, one like I use to pour up epoxy and stuff to make some of my bowls. No matter what I tried, mold release, oil, pam, etc, I always have to bust the bowl off. your paste left a oily film that I couldn't get off, it is slick. I bet it will be great as a mold release, can't wait to try it. Thanks for the recipe. Larry

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Larry I am glad you like it and it works for you. I bet it would work good for a mold release. I have used many mold releases for both epoxy, polyester and urethane casting resins. I worked as a wood patternmaker and we also did a lot of epoxy casting and laminating. I will try and remember the name of the best stuff we used. I retired 7 years ago and the name has slipped my mind. Ok I went out to glue some rings together and remembered. It is called Stoner Mold Release. But I am curious how the paste works for that. Should be good. Thanks again Larry. Gary

@williamellis8993 5 жыл бұрын

Impressive, Gary. What more can I say?

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Bill I appreciate your WORD Gary

@tompuskar4426 5 жыл бұрын

Homemade Yorkshire grit! Saves a lot of money. Definitely will give it a try. Looks like a nice finish for cutting boards after a good soak in mineral oil. I wonder what the difference would be to use pumice, rottenstone and other grits instead of DE????

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Tom glad you liked it. I don't think there would be any difference with the rottenstone. My understanding is that Tripole and rottenstone are the same. It all sounds about the same to me so my guess it might work the same. Not sure if the color would have any effect on the finish. Worth trying. Gary

@andrewmaddams2013 5 жыл бұрын

Just to update for UK users. Diatonmatious earth from ebay. 1KG for £7.50 enough for life. I got the beeswax from a local bee keeper who was pleased to give it to me. Mineral oil from ebay again for a fiver. Enough I think for ever. Yorkshire Grit anywhere from £14 to £18 . No brainier and works as good. Whilst the wife was out I made some in the Kitchen.... Brilliant in use.

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Good job Andrew. You did good getting the beeswax for free. Also good plan making when she was away. I did the same. Gary

@crog9750 5 жыл бұрын

thanks for that great vid i was using Tripoli but i think that is going to get hard to get

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

You are welcome. Can you order from Amazon? I am sure you could find it there. Thanks again, Gary

@ronaldcumpsty5605 Жыл бұрын

Great information thank you. Does this have to be topped off with any other finish, also how durable is this to be handled for turnings such as an acorn box or turned jewelry box.

@ThePapa1947 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Ronald. I would think it would hold up fine. But I generally put down some sanding sealer or even finish it with other finishes. Then I use the pasted to give it a very smooth and deep look. Thanks for watching, Gary

@georgevalente4223 Жыл бұрын

I've found AutoZone has wet sandpaper, polishing compounds and waxes that produce glass like finishes.

@ThePapa1947 Жыл бұрын

Yes they do and that would work good as well.

@rickhomer934 Жыл бұрын

Love the education that you provide. How does the homemade abrasive paste and polishing paste compare to the Acks products? Better, worse, or the same?

@ThePapa1947 Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much Rick. I think what I made works fine. For sure Acks Polish works better than what I made. Thanks for watching, Gary

@djs240 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for info and demonstrations. You use the friction polish then shine juice or PPP pop’s polishing paste, correct?

@ThePapa1947 4 жыл бұрын

I apply my finish first. Lacquer or shellac. Then abrasive paste followed by polishing paste I very seldom use the shine juice. Thanks foe watching.

@poleline111 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting - a WHOLE lot cheaper than Yorkshire grit and the like which btw over charges for their products.

@ThePapa1947 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much. I have never bought any and one reason is the cost. Thanks for watching, Gary

@mhaz49 3 жыл бұрын

I make the same except I use boiled linseed oil (BLO) as mineral oil never dries. I also make a more abrasive version using pumice instead of diatomaceous earth for the extra hard woods that are hard to sand.

@ThePapa1947 3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like yours would work great. Is pumice food safe? And can you buy it bulk at a good price? I have never tried it.

@mhaz49 3 жыл бұрын

@@ThePapa1947 I buy it in 1 lb boxes. As only a bit is needed for each batch, a box lasts a long time. Pumice is calcium and as such is food safe. ANY finish used in woodworking is food safe once it cures. The curing process eliminates any noxious elements in the finish.

@dereksturrock5546 2 жыл бұрын

Hiya, Can I use Plaster of Paris instead of the Diatomaceous earth. in your formula? Great Video Thanks

@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын

Seems to me the Plaster of Paris would turn to concrete. You could try a small batch but I have no idea what it will do. Interesting idea.

@mikekelly7456 5 жыл бұрын

Hi I made a batch and it works great. Is it ok to use non food grade diatomaceous earth or should you use food grade. Also can you used beeswax straight from the hive or does it have to bee purified thanks Mike

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Mike, From what I have read the bug grade is similar to the food grade richsoil.com/diatomaceous-earth.jsp That article talks about farmers putting it on the grain they store to kill bugs. The same grain we eat. Reading that article might clear things up. I know that pool grade is a lot more course so not good for human consumption. I am confused on the differences myself. To be safe only use what you are comfortable with. As far as beeswax goes I am not sure what all is in the non purified beeswax so I am not sure. I would wonder if the debris in the non purified would interfere with the process. Hope this helps Gary

@20ZardoZ11 5 жыл бұрын

for other watchers from Germany: diatomaceous earth ist in unserem Sprachgebrauch Kieselgur.

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you I am part German but not the speaking part.

@thomasckuzia7129 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Gary, That worked great on the lacquer! Do you also use the sanding paste as a sanding aid on unfinished wood? As I told you before I make mine with Tripoli powder and it works fantastic as a sanding aid but I've never tried it on lacquer,,,,,probably cuz I've never tried a lacquer finish! LOL Thanks for an informative and helpful video,,, Tom

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Tom I did try it on my upcoming turning and it worked great. I finish it with Howard Feed and Wax because I am not sure if the beeswax would prevent the lacquer from curing. I will have to do some testing but in my mind the wax on top is just fine but not under. I think using an oil finish should work fine though. I like to experiment so I will be doing that. I would have used Tripoli but could not find it locally but I might order some just to test. What color is the Tripoli you used? Thanks again. Gary

@thomasckuzia7129 5 жыл бұрын

@@ThePapa1947 I've seen people use wipe on poly and lacquer over Hampshire Sheen,,,which I think must also have some sort of wax in it. I really don't agree with this because applying a lacquer or poly finish over wax just doesn't make sense to me,although I've never tried it with my sanding paste. My Tripoli powder is sort of a pinkish color.I know that Tripoli powder comes in different grits and quality so I'm not sure what "grit" mine is but it does do a good job with minimal discoloration.I used to buy it in 5 lb bags but I just did a search for it and came up empty! I can send you enough to try/test if you like?

@diydarkmatter 5 жыл бұрын

sure beats buying the little cans for three times the amount of what it costs to make it . good job brother .

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you and I forgot to mention it cost $1.80 to make a 6 oz batch. I decided to make it because I liked the EEE that came with lathe I bought a number of years ago. The can was kind of dried out and it cost $30.00 for 8.45 oz I am not ashamed to say I am thrifty. Thanks again for watching. Gary

@TheVerspagets 5 жыл бұрын

Great tip. Can I use boiled linseed oil instead of mineral oil? Thx

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks glad you like it. I really do not see any reason you couldn't use boiled linseed oil. I think others have used walnut oil. It would be easy enough to try. Maybe my next batch I will try the BLO. It's main purpose is to turn the diatomaceous earth and beeswax into a paste. Thanks again, Gary

@TheVerspagets 5 жыл бұрын

Gretat thank you Gary. I have my own bees, so the wax would be perfect. Did you ever try with the white sand grit they use in birdcages to collect the bird waste? Or is that not fine/small enough? Greeting from The Netherlands

@yves6268 Жыл бұрын

Hello from France, Thanks for your recipe! Can you tell me what finishing product you put on after applying your polish? another question, for the preparation of your polishing paste you use mineral oil, but mineral oil is not drying, it does not dry, it is not a problem to apply another finish on top ? Can you use tung oil rather than mineral oil to make polishing paste? Thanks very much

@ThePapa1947 Жыл бұрын

So I put my finish on first and use the paste to polish it up. The few times I only used the paste there was no issue with the oil not drying. The heat created seems to burn it off. I have used friction polish over the top. Hope this helps. Gary

@yves6268 Жыл бұрын

@@ThePapa1947 Thank you very mutch, 👍😉

@bradmcnamar5679 2 жыл бұрын

I have a couple of quick questions. How do you address sanding sealer. Does your abrasive serve as the sealer or do you apply one just before you use the abrasive or is there another time that you use it? Also, how many coats of the PAP and the PPP do you use to make the great finishes you show?

@ThePapa1947 2 жыл бұрын

Most of the time I get all my finish on before using abrasive paste or polish. But if I want more of a natural coat i will put one coat of sealer then the paste. But I always sand to 400 before the sealer or paste. Hope this helps. Gary

@damianoferraro1802 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your recipe. You must have read my mind because I've been looking for a way to make something similar to Yorkshire grit and this seems to be very close. A small question; is diatomeas earth the same as pumice?

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome. I believe that pumice is volcanic and the diatomaceous earth if fossilised plant life. My guess in use it would be about the same. Also diatomaceous earth is very similar to the tripoli powder which is rottenstone. I know that diatomaceous earth is used in toothpaste. I have used toothpaste for years to polish things and never really thought about what was in it. By the way I enjoy your segment work and have been doing segments for many years. I am working on a new glue up turning now that has some segments in it. Slow process as there is lots of cutting and gluing. But I am in no hurry. Thanks for commenting. Gary

@damianoferraro1802 5 жыл бұрын

Many thanks for the info and I do enjoy your turning videos. My videos are slow in coming. I'm quite new at it. I'm preparing one on segmented corian probably a bowl. again, thank you, Damiano

@sciangear4782 3 жыл бұрын

@@ThePapa1947 pumice certainly is volcanic. We have a lot of it here in the North Island of New Zealand, thanks to the chain of volcanoes running from Whakaari/White Island, through the Rotorua area, on to Ruapehu and his brothers Tongariro and Ngauruhoe on the Central Plateau, out to Taranaki on the western coast. Not forgetting their grand-daddy, Taupõ, our biggest lake, smack in the middle. Pumice works great in the industrial-strength soap my son cleans his working-man hands with. The finer you grind it, the more shine you get! (Also, don't breathe the dust...)

@PhilAndersonShadyAcresWoodshop 5 жыл бұрын

Very helpful video, Gary! So, you are using this as the final step in the finishing process, right? You are not putting anything over it? I see where it would be a great addition to get the smoothest finish possible. And so inexpensive and easy to make, thanks to your video! Phil

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Phil and yes I am using over lacquer or shellac. Nothing after that. But on the warped apple bowl I just did I used it on bare wood then finished with Howard. And that works great. I doubt if putting lacquer over it would work out. Any oil finish should be fine though. And yes its cheap. But that is another one of my middle names. Thanks buddy Gary

@josephwise485 5 жыл бұрын

If I understand you right, your paste is used after finishing with lacquer or shellac. If used on bare wood, because of the mineral oil, you use a finish that has mineral oil and wax in it. Would this be the same type of sanding paste that I have seen used, to keep down the dust when people sand? I always wondered what type of finish would be used after sanding, if any. Nice video, thanks for sharing.

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Joseph yes you understand correctly. I use it over the top of lacquer and shellac. Wipe on poly as well. If I used it on bare would I would use an oil or wax finish. As a matter of fact I did just that and used Howard Feed & Wax which is an oil and wax finish. I like the results. My understanding of some of the stuff used to keep the dust down is used with sandpaper. So it seems like it is sort of like wet sanding which I have done over lacquer using 500 grit paper and water. I prefer using something like this mix I just did though. Thanks for watching. Gary

@mikekelly7456 5 жыл бұрын

@@ThePapa1947 I made a small batch and used it on bare wood sanded to 400. I applied the paste buffed it until there was no more residue on a clean paper towel. The paste produced as good a finish as shellac. I wiped on shellac and then shine juice, that gave me the best finish ever

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Mike that is fantastic. I tried it on a piece of bare apple a few weeks after I did this video and was very pleased with the results. I used my polishing paste on top of it and it gave it a very nice finish. Glad you tried the shellac over it now I will consider doing that as well. Knowing me I will probably use the abrasive paste on the shellac after putting it on. Thanks for the feedback it is very helpful. Gary

@Haunold 4 жыл бұрын

Hello Gary, thanks for the interesting video. I just ordered the ingredients on the internet to try your paste. Although I would use it differently as a habit. I usually work by first applying a pore filler (after sanding, ect.) and then spraying on at least 10 layers of high-gloss clear coat lacquer. Then I polish creamy carnauba wax over it. A few drops are enough and you have an incredible shine and haptics! If I understand your video correctly, you do it the other way round. First lacquer and then the grinding paste and polishing paste. If I continue as before, I wonder if the lacquer sticks to your paste or not. Have you tried this and have experience with it? Thanks in advance and best regards from Austria, Gerhard.

@ThePapa1947 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Gerhard, I do it this way as a habit as well. But I do see where people use one coat of sealer then apply the paste and wax. And then they might use a friction polish over it. And I think the paste they use has a wax in it as well. I have used shellac over the top just to try it and it seems to work have not tried with lacquer. I would experiment before really doing a nice piece. Let me know what you come up with as I always like learning something new. Take care, Gary

@Haunold 4 жыл бұрын

@@ThePapa1947 Thank you, Gary! Will soon try everything possible and inform you. Best wishes from Austria, Gerhard

@cstone538 3 жыл бұрын

Can you tell us what type of diatomaceous earth you used? I've seen multiple variations of it and just not sure what to buy. Thanks!

@ThePapa1947 3 жыл бұрын

I believe it was Safer brand Food Grade.

@cstone538 3 жыл бұрын

@@ThePapa1947 Thanks for fast response!

@paulgargulak8275 5 жыл бұрын

would your paste work in place of yorkshire grit before applying wax?

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

From what I understand it does the same thing. I have never used YG though. Thanks for watching.

@andrewmaddams2013 5 жыл бұрын

I found Yorkshire grit to be a little bit courser

@mmgross144 5 жыл бұрын

Have you tried this paste on acrylic resin?

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

I have not but I am guessing it would do a good job. Probably work good on epoxy as well.

@grampashorty8468 5 жыл бұрын

ThankQ papa. Why use mineral oil? I understand mineral oil never hardens. Wood it be ok to use walnut oil instead? I understad that walnut oil will harden after seversl days, or am i wrong. Anybody, correct me if I am wrong.

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

You are correct about the walnut oil getting hard. As far as the mineral oil goes I think most of it wipes off. It is just acting as a carrier for the diatomaceous earth and the beeswax. But I used it over lacquer and shellac so it does not get in the grain. I did use some on bare apple wood and then finished it with Howard Feed and Wax. So any mineral oil that might be left would be mixed with that finish. Something to think about for sure.

@grampashorty8468 5 жыл бұрын

@@ThePapa1947 ThankQ sir, I am a new turner so my learning curve has just begun.

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

@@grampashorty8468 well we never stop learning or at least have the opportunity to learn. I watch a lot of other turners at all levels of experience and try to learn something from all of them. Not sure why I didn't like learning so much in school. Well I suppose I did it took awhile. Gary

@grampashorty8468 5 жыл бұрын

@@ThePapa1947 ha ha ha! I hated school so much I stopped in 10th grade. I wasn't learning because i knew that the edjamakashin system was a curriculum. I picked up the lathe @ 68yrs & am finally having fun! I'll bet you & I think very similarly. I do enjoy your vids.

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Well grampa I am sure we do think a like. Even though you are much younger than I. You can do the math with my KZfaq name LOL I was lucky to figure out what I wanted to do before I got out of high school. I had a few years of interruptions but I got going as a wood patternmaker. So I have been a wood pecker for a long time. Take care buddy, Gary

@KevinCoop1 5 жыл бұрын

Please tell me if you still have something that you used this type of paste on that is over a year old, and how shiny it looks now. I've used mix of mineral oil, bees, and carbona waxes. It looks great when done, but the shine disappears over time. Hopefully you or someone else can answer this question. I appreciate any responses in advance. I would like to make this, if it lasts.

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Kevin I use it over lacquer and shellac to give those finishes a high polish. So they will stay shiny. I have not used it on bare wood so I can not speak to that. What it does is acts like very fine sand paper so it gives it a good chance to have a high luster finish which should last longer. I did recently use it to do a final sanding on an apple wood turning right after the last 400 grit sanding. And it certainly brought a luster to the wood which should stay. I will watch it and see. Thanks for watching and your question. Gary

@KevinCoop1 5 жыл бұрын

ThePapa1947 So you use it as a finish polish. I have used McGuires auto polish. I will have to make some and try on wipe on poly for when high gloss is desired. Have seen many of your videos, you do some beautiful work! Respectfully,

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Kevin I appreciate you watching. Yes I am using it as a finish polish. I have thought about using Mothers Polish. I am sure you know what that is. I also had some car finishing compound that was something like 4000 grit. But I guess I tossed it years ago. I think they end up doing the same thing my paste does. Its an ultra fine polishing compound. I use wipe on poly that I mix and I know the sanding paste will work great there also. Thanks again, Gary

@KevinCoop1 5 жыл бұрын

ThePapa1947 😊. Car buffing compound $$$$. Your paste $

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

@@KevinCoop1 that's for sure. I would only use it if I had and had never used it on cars. Cause I never through anything away. And that's not a good thing. Thanks for your comments. Gary

@brewingturtle2712 Жыл бұрын

Watching your recent videos I am led to believe you no longer make your own abrasive paste. It appears you now prefer Ack's paste and polish combination. Have you given up on making your own abrasive paste? Do you both make and purchase? If you have both on hand how do you decide which to use?

@ThePapa1947 Жыл бұрын

The paste I made works very well. Like everything it takes time to make. Even being retired I find I need to ration my time in order to make the videos I do. Hope that makes sense. Take care, Gary

@zaagnutjejn8920 5 жыл бұрын

As a Dutchman I could,nt understand the used components that quick. Would you write that down for me? I Will appreciate that

@seregon77 5 жыл бұрын

As a frenchman i just understand mineral oil and bees wax. Dont understand the last.

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

Hi sorry about that and sure. I used 4 oz of Mineral Oil 1oz beeswax and 1 oz diatomaceous earth, I hope this helps. Gary

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

@@seregon77 I used 4 oz of Mineral Oil 1oz beeswax and 1 oz diatomaceous earth, I hope this helps.

@zaagnutjejn8920 5 жыл бұрын

Dear Gay , you can,nt help it , because that last component , i can hardly speak it out , Hihi . I have to ask a chemical person... never heard of it. But , Many thanks for your information anyway. Greetings from us in Holland. 🌷

@ThePapa1947 5 жыл бұрын

@@zaagnutjejn8920 You can alskino use tripoli or rottenstone. The Diatomaceous earth is also used in swimming pool filters.It has many uses to type it in a google search. I would think you have it where you live. By the way my wife is mostly Dutch. We have been thinking of doing a trip to see the Tulip blume some year,