Make great tools even greater 3in cutoff tools

Make great tools even greater 3in cutoff tools - mini belt sander and *****!

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Жыл бұрын

One of the best cordless tools to be introduced in the past few years.
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After Thoughts about the Video: I just want to start out with saying the DeWalt is a monster and easily 4x more powerful than the Milwaukee. The only thing the makes the Milwaukee usable is the ability to utilize ultra thin .032" cutoff disc. Using the common 3" discs(.070,.045, etc) cause it to stall with even a few ounces of downward force(cutting steel). However it rocks as a mini belt sander as the belt drive drum is so small, utilizing what little torque the tool has. I bought the DeWalt to replace the Milwaukee but I think I'll keep it around as a belt sander indefinitely.
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@jimwright8748 Жыл бұрын

I been using my too small 4"ers on my dremel for a while. I like to use them up. I'm going to do that sanding belt setup, that will come in handy.

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Gotta get the max life out of them.

@chrissscottt Жыл бұрын

Cool. Re lathe technique, my philosophy is that if it worked well enough you did it right.

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

True

@terryrobinson1416 Жыл бұрын

An old lathe is better than no lathe. Maybe you could use your old lathe to make shims or bushings to make it run better again. That would be a great video. All your videos are great and informative. Thank you.

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Thanks. They call it getting married to your machine when you learn how to use all of it's quirks. It does everything, it's just slow.

@AtimatikArmy Жыл бұрын

@@sixtyfiveford It can still be a great machine as long as you account and work with the backlash. I'm sure 65 has already got that figured out! IMO, 65 has the mindset of a great machinist without even being one :-) (yet)

@caploader111 Жыл бұрын

I was able to adapt the drum wheel that came with my 3/8 air belt sander from harbor freight. I drilled and counterbored the center to fit the screw for my Milwaukee cut off tool. Then I machined a 5/16 slot on the side of the drum that keys onto the drive of the cutoff tool.

@DconBlueZ Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video, always enjoy watching!

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@evans_workshop Жыл бұрын

I half expected Ginger to take off to the liquor store and get you a beer! Great video! Thanks for the ideas!

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Next time!

@brucewilliams6292 Жыл бұрын

Nice to see the old machine turning out chips. Cool project.

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@strongandco Жыл бұрын

Great mod. Sometime only a power file will do! Something I never see YT machinists do when parting is to lightly take the edge off the cutting tool with a stone and back off the cut like when you are drilling so cut for half a turn, back off a full turn, cut for half a turn, back off for a full turn, this is especially important for chewy metals. If you lock off the carriage, don't run the work too fast and use plenty of cutting fluid you can usually get decent finishes even on worn out lathes

@AtimatikArmy Жыл бұрын

Great comment. Perhaps rather than taking the edge off the cutting tool, keep it sharp and reduce the angle of the cutting edge a few degrees so as to make it less likely to "dig in"? Just brain storming right now...

@strongandco Жыл бұрын

@@AtimatikArmy I'm not going to say no, but parting tool angles are already pretty steep for strength and I'm just passing on a tip which has been passed on over decades (centuries?) Not that we should do these things unthinkingly but having been taught it, it worked so well that I've had no reason to try any other way. (it also works with drills) A hard fine, sharp edge cuts into a softer surface more easily but if it's too easy, depending on the resistance in the tool, work piece and cross slide you can end up taking a cut or feed rate that is unsustainable. By lightly running a stone over it is just enough to remove that sharpness, increasing the resistance, allowing you to make a more controlled cut. It also reduces the chance of chipping the edge so the tool lasts longer and produces cleaner cuts.

@AtimatikArmy Жыл бұрын

@@strongandco I too have heard this before and it does make sense. If it's not broken don't fix it right? Thanks for reminding me about this, I will keep it in mine next time I'm parting something on the lathe and things start not going smooth!

@mitchdenner9743 Жыл бұрын

Dude is teaching his dog to drive! 😄 ginger said " but I don't have a license dad" . Cool vid as usual got to figure out why I get no notifications . I need that dewalt tool but I need different radius front rollers for grinding welds on specific radius bends. Man I really need to set up my lathe, that and a million other projects I got going.

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

The Dewalt is 4x more powerful than the Milwaukee and is just an amazing tool.

@mr1pearl Жыл бұрын

That would be so handy cleaning up my trailer hitch 👍

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Yes it would!

@ww321 Жыл бұрын

I built one of those from scraps. I have a video on it. Thanks for the video

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Nice work!

@steedandersen Жыл бұрын

I love the way your brain works.

@lewiemcneely9143 Жыл бұрын

That'll work but all my smoothing is from hammers and oil soaks. Ginger is scared she's going to get caught without her learners permit. God Bless!

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Just a couple more lessons.

@lewiemcneely9143 Жыл бұрын

@@sixtyfiveford RIGHT!

@77gmcnut Жыл бұрын

Another informative video. Thank you.

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

So nice of you

@michaelosmon Жыл бұрын

I really would like to have a metalworking lathe

@steves7896 Жыл бұрын

I need a lathe so bad.

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Problem is finding one. There's a plethora of guys hoarding/collecting these. They'll have ten to twenty in their garage and won't let them go. They need to be out there working in small home shops.

@jackrichards1863 Жыл бұрын

Mighty good little tool you have in that bloody old lathe. You made a damn fine little drive wheel with it. If you sand the parts smoother on the lathe they'll be better than a purchase kit. I have an ancient one with no gearbox. Still, brilliant.

@bidders77 Жыл бұрын

Wow, nearly 300k now! Congrats

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Hey thanks

@geigertron3000 Жыл бұрын

that's friggin awesome!

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Thanks. It was a fun project

@CantKillMe Жыл бұрын

this is cool never would of see this coming keep it up

@DAS-Videos Жыл бұрын

Waste not want not, for those cut off wheels. And watching lath work is so satisfying for some reason. Was a pretty cool mod for those cordless tools. Haha Ginger will be an Uber driver in no time.

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

I'm most excited about using junk cutoff discs for sure. Couple more lessons

@MaxGiganteum Жыл бұрын

In the past, I've done the same conversions as you have Moe... though back in the day it was primarily on pneumatic tools. One of the best places I found to score various cut-off or grinding discs was at work when they would get tossed for being too small on a 4 or 6 inch corded grinder. I had guys start saving them for me by tossing them in a box in the work areas when a new disc was mounted. It didn't take too long before I literally had about 500 to use up over time. Interestingly, other guys noted my conversions and asked me to duplicate them on their tools. As you might guess, eventually, everyone started keeping the worn down discs from the larger grinders for themselves. I was glad I piled up several large boxes of them before the supply nearly dried up! You could still find them on benches or the floors in the welding labs in the ensuing years but it was nice to be ahead of the game. I tell everyone I know that doesn't work in a production environment like that to find someone who does... so their friend can start saving the worn down discs for home use. Yes, it's nice to have a lot of friends in low places. Best wishes! 🤔👍🏻😁 - Max Giganteum

@Odenix75 Жыл бұрын

Thank you buddy always good advices and the end cracked me up 🤣😂🤣😂 great!!!👍👍💯

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@warrenmichael918 Жыл бұрын

After seeing how smart the dog is, it wouldnt have surprised me to see her actually grab the wheel and drive around! LOL

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Couple more lessons

@warrenmichael918 Жыл бұрын

@@sixtyfiveford You wont need a couple , maybe just one more and you will be able to teach her! LOL Oh i guess you were saying SHE needed the lessons.....haha

@AtimatikArmy Жыл бұрын

Haha Ginger is the best she knew she didn't know how! Great video BTW! I still haven't even ponied up for an electric cut off tool... still using the cheap old school air "zinger"!

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Still love all my air tools but they keep getting buried. Dragging a hose to where I'm working is usually the burden that prevents them from getting used more.

@AtimatikArmy Жыл бұрын

@@sixtyfiveford yeah... plus the compressor always running in the back ground gets annoying as well...

@D2O2 Жыл бұрын

@@AtimatikArmy Need a compressor shed out back far enough away that you can't hear it.

@AtimatikArmy Жыл бұрын

@@D2O2 yeah that would be nice!

@69kaveman Жыл бұрын

Nice work, wish I had lathe.

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@senatorjosephmccarthy2720 Жыл бұрын

Using the worn cut discs has a few values. I like I can remove the guard and get into smaller areas to cut.

@mitchdenner9743 Жыл бұрын

I just said to myself slow that thing down a bit, when you said the same.😄

@jaysheehan4899 Жыл бұрын

Cool tip

@DRS-TOOLS Жыл бұрын

That was cool

@wyattoneable Жыл бұрын

Amazing.

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@Kyle-ev4fk Жыл бұрын

cool modification

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Hey Thanks.

@emmettturner9452 Жыл бұрын

You think Stanley-Black & Decker will ever make a Craftsman 3” cut off tool? TTI made them across the range (Ryobi, Rigid, and Milwaukee M12).

@jameshall4385 Жыл бұрын

Great hack. That cutter looked a little hot.

@freq4323 Жыл бұрын

Smart video

@craighansen7594 Жыл бұрын

At least Ginger wasn't texting while driving.

@Kowyn Жыл бұрын

I was machining down a small sprocket for a Chinese go-kart, the chains were unavailable so I was converting it to a number 41 which it's so common you can almost buy it at 7-Eleven, I was machining the old sprocket down and over shot, momentary laps of judgment, oh well.

@patrickmorrissey2271 Жыл бұрын

Heh heh heh!!! Great video... I have no lathe, but it's nice to know I could buy it.... But the end!!!! Hahahaha! Even your Dog is telling you "Dad, I CAN'T DRIVE!!! I'M A DOG!!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!!!" Heh heh heh! Cracked me up.... Come on now... come on man... Teach him to get you beers out of the fridge, and leave it at that.....

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Couple more lessons and she'll drive as good as half the people on the road.

@patrickmorrissey2271 Жыл бұрын

@@sixtyfiveford You're not wrong Sir. You're not wrong. At least she wouldn't be looking at her phone while she's flying down the road....

@OldSneelock Жыл бұрын

I noticed that you are manually crossfeeding the carriage to turn the drive pulley and the aluminum spacer. I have a SB Model C lathe. I can't see the handle on that should be on the left side of the bed to set the crossfeed to forward and reverse. If I'm just not seeing it then ignore this comment. I have a spare reversing lever that I bought along with some other replacement parts that my lathe needed. With a full set of feed gears you can make any thread you need. If you would like my spare lever just let me know.

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

My 1935 C is stock and doesn't have power cross feed. I have the half nut only carriage that I use for threading with all the change gears(minus 2).

@OldSneelock Жыл бұрын

@@sixtyfiveford Glad it is all there. Even worn out having a lathe is a big plus in the shop.

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

@@OldSneelock One day I'll find a small lathe with quick change and power feed. This will have to do in the meantime.

@OldSneelock Жыл бұрын

@@sixtyfiveford Mine cost $400 twenty years ago. I think I will sit tight and do without.

@markbell5918 Жыл бұрын

Nice build. I know your not a machinest rule of thumb any stickout past 2 times the diameter needs a center or steadyrest for acuracy

@portmanteau. Жыл бұрын

Milwaukee started making these as a complete tool.

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

I did see that

@jafinch78 Жыл бұрын

Nice! I've been recently thinking about for pipe welding making a small wheel belt sander attachment sometime in the future. For the price of buying them new... seems can be made more cost effectively and with rescued made in the US materials.

@jafinch78 Жыл бұрын

Cutting oil or coolant will help those drills last way longer with steel. Aluminum is something like air and frankly I don't recall offhand... though maybe it's cutting oil is messing with aluminum. That Tap Magic EP-Extra is my go to, seems like night and day to me. Good machining work. Thanks for sharing!.

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

I pipe/contour belt sander would be cool.

@AtimatikArmy Жыл бұрын

@@jafinch78 Tap Magic for steel and ordinary WD40 for aluminum and your pretty set!

@jafinch78 Жыл бұрын

@@AtimatikArmy Ah, OK. I haven't done machine tooling really in decades. I still need to get to work on the mini-lathe upgrades since I have most of the parts (new bearings, indexing plate, treadmill motor & pulleys, collet chucks) to improve and an angle plate with new vertical slide so I can replace the compound with and use the lathe as a mill once I widen the cross slide and get that more tight spec and lapped. Thanks for the affirmation!

@AtimatikArmy Жыл бұрын

@@jafinch78 I should say that is my opinion and always works well for me. The WD40 thing for aluminum I've heard many times and since it's usually around that what I often use and works well! Cool project it sounds like you got going there! I also have a mini lathe in my small home shop! Limited by the size of the work you can do but with some upgrades like it sounds like you're doing, quite capable! Cheers

@skyscraper37 Жыл бұрын

Will there be a link for the lathe

@jamest.5001 Жыл бұрын

Just an old truck and it's dog! 👍

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

You got that right!

@stans5270 Жыл бұрын

Whatever it was that Ginger was upset about, my Border Collie wanted us to give a hand to help.

@emeltea33 Жыл бұрын

Timmy's in the well!!!

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Awesome. She was just nervous for her first driving lesson.

@aleblanc3547 Жыл бұрын

@@sixtyfiveford 😂

@MrTimdtoolman1 Жыл бұрын

I have seen a few KZfaqrs use this belt sander. I'm curious as to if I could find a use for one? Great video as usual.

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

I've had the pneumatic ones for years and forget I have them as they sit in the back of a drawer. In the past couple months I've used the Milwaukee converted one a fair amount as it's right in front of me.

@OldSneelock Жыл бұрын

I use mine all the time. At the risk of being accused of blasphemy I like it better than a file for cleaning up and deburing.

@evanfrucht Жыл бұрын

It's mainly used for grinding welds, hard to reach areas, fillet welds (especially inside a sharp inside corner.) The benefit of any belt style grinder over let's say a hard disc, is that you have more surface area of abrasive, with the same amount of contact patch. In addition to simply adding more abrasive to wear out, the grinding runs cooler, which keeps the grains sharp for longer.

@twistedhillbilly6157 Жыл бұрын

I spent 22 years working in machine shops and I saw a lot of techniques,, but the portoband parting was a first.... When parting,, use the thinnest tool you have (.06 or .09) and just let the part drop without anything in the center especially not a drill bit.. You should be able to adjust any play out of the ways... Those old South Bends are work horses and are always fixable...

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

It's my acme nut and threads that are worn out. It'll do it but it's a 5+minute process vs 30 seconds with the portaband.

@AtimatikArmy Жыл бұрын

@@sixtyfiveford nothing wrong with the Porta band or band saw. Just face afterwards exactly as you did!

@dylanhockaday9878 Жыл бұрын

That’s cool can you make one for a RYOBI cut off

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

I think Ryobi just released a mini belt sander like this last year.

@1970chevelle396 Жыл бұрын

Milwaukee just came out with a belt sander.

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I saw that a few months back. I guess their tired of everyone making their own. I think is around $250 bare tool.

@09FLTRMM77 Жыл бұрын

MM77 Approved 👍🏼👍🏼

@deckum23 Жыл бұрын

Ryobi already sells a finger sander like this.

@volkerkorb538 Жыл бұрын

To bad- Ginger did not want to drive your car... good video though- enjoyed it and gives me some ideas

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Couple more lessons

@evilutionltd Жыл бұрын

Thankfully Milwaukee have just released a proper finger sander.

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I saw that.

@macswanton9622 Жыл бұрын

👍 Hi Ginger

@FJ80Coop Жыл бұрын

I sometimes get brain farts and it causes people to mis hear reverse threads when in my mind I've said left hand threads... Finally working on that unibody Furd truck again Moe ?

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Seams to be a never ending supply of projects always piling in front of the Ford.

@ProleDaddy Жыл бұрын

I shit you not, I could smell the burning oil and the smell of a hot electrical motor when that shot on the lathe around 12 minutes happened. That was weird.

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

That's funny. I've had the same experiences. Crazy how the mind works.

@bread-gz3rl Жыл бұрын

Still dunno what I'd use one of these for, if I'm cutting plastic I've got a multitool or a jigsaw and ryobi makes a cordless baby belt sander for like 100$

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

They're more for metalwork

@Flowing23 Жыл бұрын

👍👍

@Pete.Ty1 Жыл бұрын

👍👍👍.

@towboatjeff Жыл бұрын

Milwaukee has seen everyone converting their cutoff tools so their gonna start selling a band file now.

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

I saw that.

@D2O2 Жыл бұрын

"Ginger take the wheel"

@mrdddeeezzzweldor5039 Жыл бұрын

Hack-o-rama!

@letttttttssssss_gooooooo Жыл бұрын

Letttttttssssss gooooooo

@chadman9761 6 ай бұрын

That's a cutting wheel not a grinding wheel

@Dancing_Alone_wRentals Жыл бұрын

Driving isn't as easy as it looks.

@kenl5217 Жыл бұрын

I think my comment was deleted about 2483-20 and 2482-20

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

I did see they released those a month or so ago.

@plap. Жыл бұрын

Of course you know hobos have all the best tools

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Yes they do

@GTRliffe Жыл бұрын

those those cutoffs are one speed! not good for what your doing. i use the pneumatic one and i’m always using different speeds.

@Beaches_south_of_L.A. Жыл бұрын

Why don't you just use the air tool?

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Because I'm not always in the shop.

@D4x4Bronc Жыл бұрын

Have the dog drive to MCD for a chicken sandwich.

@steves7896 Жыл бұрын

McDiabetes

@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын

Heck yeah

@chrishayden3854 Жыл бұрын

Good ideas... Except the belts won't be running very fast. It's all about surface feet per minute and cordless tools typically run slower than corded. The cutoff wheel will run ok but the 'real' abrasive is concentrated away from the hub because they need higher strength around the arbor. Good enough for small projects and again, the speed will not be enough probably

@Connorkmiec93 Жыл бұрын

Nope. The Milwaukee 3” cutoff is rated 20,000 rpm, the HF pneumatic sander is rated 16,000 rpm.