MAKE NOISE MATHS TUTORIAL ~ Eurorack analog computer module

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once upon a synth

once upon a synth

7 жыл бұрын

This is a tutorial of the Make Noise Maths eurorack module. This module is described as an analog computer. It's a CV processor on steroids which can act as an LFO, an envelope generator, a lag processor, a CV mixer, etc. Essentially you have 4 inputs which can be summed, OR'd or inverted as a group. Each one can be attenuated and inverted independently. In addition, two of the channels have rise and far slew rate controls for extra control.
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@neilfallon5998
@neilfallon5998 Жыл бұрын
5 years late to the party, but this is, by far, the most concise and helpful Maths tutorial I've seen. TY!!!!!
@QuimFont
@QuimFont Ай бұрын
It is crazy that having so many examples, this one using only an lfo and a sinewave, and without an oscilloscope, is the clearest of all. Many thanks!
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 6 жыл бұрын
Legit, best Maths explanation!!
@TroyBlackford
@TroyBlackford 3 жыл бұрын
I've had one for two years and I haven't understood it at all until this video. I've had a lot going on, almost none of it good, but it will be nice to mess with this now.
@emilykingan9503
@emilykingan9503 5 жыл бұрын
This is the best tutorial for Maths on the internet. Thanks for making it!
@mcolville
@mcolville 6 жыл бұрын
Dude THANK YOU so much! Maths is simultaneously the most ubiquitous module and the one I understood the least. I still have a long way to go, but at 13 mins in, I believe I understand this!
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@bjornhudson1699 2 жыл бұрын
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@wayneben3467 2 жыл бұрын
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@bjornhudson1699 2 жыл бұрын
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@wayneben3467 2 жыл бұрын
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@fully_privatized_mass_medium
@fully_privatized_mass_medium 3 жыл бұрын
I know that I speak for a lot of people when I say you should know how much this clear explanation is truly appreciated. I'd really like to see how your relationship with this module has developed and what you have been using it for me.
@suanshine
@suanshine 7 жыл бұрын
Best maths tutorial.
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@cyberpunkbg140
@cyberpunkbg140 6 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you very easy to understand how to use it :)
@durrgaga
@durrgaga 5 жыл бұрын
This is without doubt the best explanation of the Maths unit that I have recently bought to use with my Moog Mother 32 - thank you!
@waltersmetak
@waltersmetak 5 жыл бұрын
Man, another hit tutorial! Brilliant and exhaustively well explained! As good as your tutorial on the Morpho! Keep it up!
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@brendanbrohan5731
@brendanbrohan5731 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this terrific run through. I recently put together a rack which includes Maths and found it impenetrable. Looked at many KZfaq videos but none of them explained what was happening or had too many unidentified modules connected to it so I couldn't replicate their patches. Yours is simple and clear and look forward to your other tutorials. Well done!
@playboxadministrator9229
@playboxadministrator9229 5 жыл бұрын
Finally. A video on Maths that really makes sense. Thank you.
@themidnightpiper9978
@themidnightpiper9978 6 жыл бұрын
Well done buddy and thanks for taking the time! I see now the possibilities with this module are quite endless🙃
@studentsmusic
@studentsmusic 6 жыл бұрын
Great,, just reflected it on my Maths/Morphagene/Eurorack..getting deeper into it due to your excellent explanation. Thanx!
@vmmunhoz
@vmmunhoz 7 жыл бұрын
i was not sure about getting a maths before this video. Now I am buying one for sure. Thanks for this nice lesson!
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Vitor, enjoy the new module!
@MisterNiles
@MisterNiles 7 жыл бұрын
One? :) Maths is a thing of beauty. I want another one. Need another one. I might build a Random*Source DUSG in Euro first though.
@nlego5153
@nlego5153 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! Never wanted one, never will own one... but always good to refresh my knowledge of what i'm missing out on.
@dwightpeters
@dwightpeters 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial!
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dwight!
@guysmiley7289
@guysmiley7289 7 жыл бұрын
I just bought this and I get it Thursday. You explained this module very clearly, thank you.
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome have fun with it!
@cureforlife
@cureforlife 3 жыл бұрын
yo this is great! watched loads of maths tutorials but only understand it after watching this one. thank you
@antoinemalroux6990
@antoinemalroux6990 6 жыл бұрын
A very helpful and clear tutorial ! Thank you much !
@robertsyrett1992
@robertsyrett1992 7 жыл бұрын
I like to think of it as a dual universal slope generator flowing into a 4-channel attenuvering mixer. But I really enjoyed your graphical presentation. Edit: I think peaks is just as deserving of a 30 minute video as maths. It may not be as confusing to understand, but it is just as useful.
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 7 жыл бұрын
I'll add it to my list :)
@fakshen1973
@fakshen1973 6 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about getting the Maths or the Rampage... I've made up my mind after watching this. Both. Arg!... :)
@Sinesquares
@Sinesquares 6 жыл бұрын
Such a great tutorial... To the point and so informative!
@BLACKSUNR1SE
@BLACKSUNR1SE 7 жыл бұрын
very useful tutorial and a great breakdown, thank you!
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 7 жыл бұрын
thanks, glad it was helpful!
@Aesprii
@Aesprii 6 жыл бұрын
What a brilliant overview! Well done!
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 6 жыл бұрын
cheers, thank you!
@floatershaw
@floatershaw 4 жыл бұрын
There,s a wealth of information in your tutorial i keep coming back for more good stuff and thank,s,,, for your help.
@frankanders1685
@frankanders1685 4 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial, very well structured
@theboytheycalljonny1
@theboytheycalljonny1 6 жыл бұрын
Excellently put together. Thanks!
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@pedrott6904
@pedrott6904 7 жыл бұрын
Mate, you made it again. Thanks for the tutorial!
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Pedro!
@immersiveworlds
@immersiveworlds 5 жыл бұрын
Your reviews are outstanding!
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kaleidophon
@kaleidophon 7 жыл бұрын
Good work. Kudos for reaching for the equations ;p Keep em coming!
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@sokoleski
@sokoleski 5 жыл бұрын
Supergood! Thanks for this ....perfect!
@salsoulkid
@salsoulkid 7 жыл бұрын
Nice one man, still haven't got the most out of Maths, but this has given me some new ideas. Cheers
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, glad it triggered some ideas for you!
@chrisarkenberg1789
@chrisarkenberg1789 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for such clear explanations. It might help to begin the video with a quick demo of the sounds as they are shaped by the component
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 6 жыл бұрын
That's a good tip thanks, I'll keep that in mind for the next tutorials.
@uhoh007
@uhoh007 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for another pull past the learning curve. Hope you are well :)
@dr.strangevelo6031
@dr.strangevelo6031 2 жыл бұрын
That was super helpful. Thank you!
@MultiA3b
@MultiA3b 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and explanation. Thanks a lot!
@Larry30102
@Larry30102 3 жыл бұрын
Super video!! Excellent teacher!! Many thanks!
@milesmacquarrie5851
@milesmacquarrie5851 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This was a cool tutorial. I'm stoked you have started doing Eurorack tutorials. I have a pretty good grasp on my maths. There is one module in your rack that many have asked for better documentation and that is the uscale. If you did a full tutorial on that, it would be very much appreciated.
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'll add the uScale to my list of tutorials, thanks for the suggestion!
@Max-cz2qp
@Max-cz2qp 7 жыл бұрын
Yes! A tutorial on the uscale would be very much appreciated.
@milesmacquarrie5851
@milesmacquarrie5851 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome tutorial on the uscale. Thank you!
@Max-cz2qp
@Max-cz2qp 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@theTerribleFamiliar
@theTerribleFamiliar 5 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic. Thank you.
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! glad it was helpful.
@roos3013
@roos3013 6 жыл бұрын
thank you! very illustrative and understandable :)
@in_10z
@in_10z 5 жыл бұрын
Wow that helped so much!! Thank you!
@mr.apartment
@mr.apartment 3 жыл бұрын
thanks so much brother, great info , best vid i’ve seen
@inhaulyt5295
@inhaulyt5295 4 жыл бұрын
i was looking for maths lessons, i found what I didn't know I needed
@DavidBagshaw
@DavidBagshaw 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic description.
@sharpsetify
@sharpsetify 4 жыл бұрын
Just got mine. Didn't know much about it, but I have an idea. I saw a Tycho post one time and he swore by a summing mixer. I now have a summing mixer eurorack module.
@stefanbrekke2973
@stefanbrekke2973 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a easy to follow lesson🙌
@SnakeOilJohnson
@SnakeOilJohnson 3 жыл бұрын
Solid intro to MATHS.....Thanks!
@johnbeuck587
@johnbeuck587 6 жыл бұрын
Such a cool module!!
@circles79
@circles79 3 жыл бұрын
clear and concise. thank you!
@anthonybrett
@anthonybrett 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant tutorial. Thanks for the effort. ;)
@leemarrett
@leemarrett 7 жыл бұрын
This is great, thanks!
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@yannickboho3875
@yannickboho3875 5 жыл бұрын
I do like your tutoria... I jut bought the maths and I don’t have idea how to use it... after see you video I want wake up and go ahead with it but right now are 1am hhhmmmm THANKS!!!
@00kieper
@00kieper 4 ай бұрын
short and preng, easy to understand. thanks
@musictribetv9095
@musictribetv9095 5 жыл бұрын
Great break down. Thanks
@RneubauerBmore
@RneubauerBmore 4 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial thank you!
@djformalin
@djformalin 4 жыл бұрын
Very useful ! Thx mate !!!
@fremder99
@fremder99 6 жыл бұрын
Well done! I sub’ed and will check out more of your tutes!
@SynthAddict
@SynthAddict 4 жыл бұрын
nice work, just ordered a Maths :-)
@josiethompson2420
@josiethompson2420 5 жыл бұрын
if sum is the equation ax1 + bx2 + cx3 + dx4, then it can essentially be thought of as the dot product {a,b,c,d}.{x1,x2,x3,x4}. So if you think of each attenuverter as the component of a vector, and each of the channels as the component of another vector, then the sum operation multiplies their two magnitudes and the cosine of the angle between them. or in other words: it projects one vector onto the other and multiplies their resulting magnitudes. crazy! Imagine the kind of complex math you can do with this if you really analyze what's going on each of the channels. Their voltages vary, but in ways that can be related to each other. This is really cool.
@chitlun
@chitlun Жыл бұрын
As a man about to dip my toe into the modular lake, this was invaluable! I have a bunch of semi modular synths and am looking, primarily, at a case full of tasty utilities and, of course, Maths is right on top of the list but I’m torn between this and Befaco Rampage? Eventually I’d like both but, which one would you, and anyone else, recommend I get first? Great video man, a new sub for thee here, cheers! 👍
@zobbo123
@zobbo123 7 жыл бұрын
Great work, really clearly done and educational.
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad it was helpful!
@rumpafumpa
@rumpafumpa 7 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@whitenoisefromelectronicto1728
@whitenoisefromelectronicto1728 4 жыл бұрын
This is great thanks a lot
@matthewy393
@matthewy393 5 жыл бұрын
great video, always had difficulty understanding what the bid hype around Maths was.
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Yeah Maths is a tricky one. Even now that I understand the basic controls, I still struggle to find creative applications beyond just the basics.
@matthewy393
@matthewy393 5 жыл бұрын
once upon a synth I’m sure it’ll take a while to completely figure it out
@wes2819
@wes2819 2 жыл бұрын
thnx, very clear explanation.
@TROGULAR10000
@TROGULAR10000 6 жыл бұрын
ok so i'm quite clear that this is the first time I've understood this unit. quite clear that your tutorial is one of the best but I'm still not sure how I would make music with it.
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 6 жыл бұрын
lol I know what you mean. It's a tricky module. Even after understanding how it works it's still tough to put it into practice beyond the basics.
@TROGULAR10000
@TROGULAR10000 6 жыл бұрын
once upon a synth it'd be cool if you did a video on making music with it
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 6 жыл бұрын
That's a good idea. I'll put it on my list.
@PaulJBurns
@PaulJBurns 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent.
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 6 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@apcut
@apcut 6 жыл бұрын
thanks, subscribed
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 6 жыл бұрын
Welcome!
@AR_1979
@AR_1979 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Sklang32
@Sklang32 6 жыл бұрын
I love my maths. I basically built a system 0 with an extra vca a multi and a rosie. Was gonna add a rxmx and wogglebug to the skiff.
@bjondersson
@bjondersson Жыл бұрын
Enable auto captions, and watch around the 15:30 mark. 😀
@noi1989
@noi1989 6 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos.. but I gotta say, by the time you're patching an LFO from Peaks to channel 1, all could think was.. "There's an LFO right there on channel 4!" If you want a waveform LFO, use the Unity or Ch4 output. If you need a square, use the EOC out. The self-patching potential is what makes Maths so good. Anyhow, keep up the good work.
@aloncohen2841
@aloncohen2841 6 жыл бұрын
Super helpful tutorial. Any chance you'll make a make noise wogglebug video?
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 6 жыл бұрын
I'll add it to my list! (I have an old generation one though)
@aloncohen2841
@aloncohen2841 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you :) looking forward to it!
@fireking99
@fireking99 7 жыл бұрын
Good explanation on a slightly complicated module - at least to a non-modular synth guy like me :)
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian!
@pseudomass
@pseudomass 3 жыл бұрын
great tutorial. where do you get those fat cables?!
@liamsheehy
@liamsheehy 3 жыл бұрын
Not certain, but they look a lot like the Nazca Noodles that Pittsburgh Modular sell.
@silverwaterh
@silverwaterh 3 жыл бұрын
Can the SUM be much greater than 10 volts, i.e. 30 volts? Can other modules safely handle more than 10 volts, i.e. the Moog Mother32? Your mathematical explanation has benefitted my understanding of this Maths module, exponentially. Tnx.
@jodo985
@jodo985 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Thank you. Question for the masses, if I went another direction and bought a Function or Contour1 (basically Maths ch 1 or 4 only) Would I miss not having the rest of the Maths functions? are most people using all functions simultaneously ie the mixer, both slope gens, attenuators, etc? Im aware that it all depends on what Im trying to do. Just wondering in a real world scenario. This would be for noodling in the house, not creating the next masterpiece to give to the world😄. Just looking to save a bit of space and cash.
@caydilemma3309
@caydilemma3309 2 жыл бұрын
Well first thing to realize is that you’re not actually getting the full 1st and 4th channels of Maths, because neither Function nor Contour has built in attenuation. If you already have a ton of attenuation, inversion, offset, and mixing in your setup then you could probably do without some of the logic stuff especially if you don’t do generative patching or use complex modulation by combining multiple sources. However, if you don’t have a lot of utilities, you’ll probably be patching and think “damn, I wish I had another attenuator/mixer/offset voltage” and that’s where Maths comes in clutch. The best way to get the most out of a Maths like module in the least HP is probably the Cosmotronic Delta V which is two function generators and two VCA’s in 10hp.
@vinylwrap5571
@vinylwrap5571 7 жыл бұрын
I sold my function. Will get a maths one day.
@CodyXVXV
@CodyXVXV 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Still trying to understand: what's the main difference between Cycle and Trigger inputs?
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 5 жыл бұрын
The cycle input simple toggles the cycle on or off. it's like a gate input for pressing the cycle button. So as long as a gate is high in this input it will keep looping. The trigger input actually triggers the function. Hope that makes sense.
@CodyXVXV
@CodyXVXV 5 жыл бұрын
@@onceuponasynth Got it. Thanks a lot!
@Sarahbuildsstepsequencers
@Sarahbuildsstepsequencers 4 жыл бұрын
If you’re baked, sonic fun ensues at 11:08. 😎
@danielgrace7887
@danielgrace7887 4 жыл бұрын
So let me get this straight. The "S" output on the left is the shape (from the rise and fall) and the "1" output is the input signal on channel 1 attenuated by the same shape?
@samlevine9639
@samlevine9639 4 жыл бұрын
The S output (actually more of a old-timey F; this is the mathematical symbol for a function) and the 1 output both output the same thing, but the 1 output can be attenuated positively or negatively
@dangala6915
@dangala6915 Жыл бұрын
An elaborate siren
@aidanvinum
@aidanvinum 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. Good stuff. Can the cycles be multed to affect two different oscillators ? Pardon the question, I am less than a novice.
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 5 жыл бұрын
yeah for sure
@aidanvinum
@aidanvinum 5 жыл бұрын
once upon a synth What-no way! I am on the fence about the Make Noise shared system. My concern is the lack of voices. Coming from a conventional band and trying to make experimental noise music now. Puce Mary, Pharmakon, etc. Wondering if that system will do it.
@drc-ek2zu
@drc-ek2zu 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a board that can do 256 bit binary into a discrete pattern?
@originalfallinggirl
@originalfallinggirl 5 жыл бұрын
You are brilliant. Why won’t my brain function like yours?
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 5 жыл бұрын
lol thanks. If all brains functioned like mine the world would be a boring place.
@nelspotts5311
@nelspotts5311 5 жыл бұрын
Question: Why is it that I can't independently envelope or LFO amplitude using a gate without it controlling pitch? Seems pitch is always being manipulated when enveloping a gate. Am I missing something or is this an elephant in the room. And therefore can it not replace an ADSR effectively?
@nelspotts5311
@nelspotts5311 5 жыл бұрын
Never mind. I guess I needed to understand my VCA/Mixer better. I'm trying to rewire my brain for CV.
@trusto1016
@trusto1016 3 жыл бұрын
Can you teach an idiot like myself,lol? I just want to learn how to get one and do it. Such a beautiful thing to be into. Is there a book I can buy?
@bigkingsha
@bigkingsha 4 жыл бұрын
This thing is like changing a diaper on 6-legged baby. Then, you gotta teach it walk. Layers of "complicated."
@findjonmoses
@findjonmoses 6 жыл бұрын
How many units total can you plug into a 7u case?
@73puto
@73puto 3 жыл бұрын
Fuckin awesome dog !
@flannsixtyseven7489
@flannsixtyseven7489 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like i still don't understand it, so thats just a fancy LFO ? Maths was not my strong side at school.
@drlohertz8233
@drlohertz8233 7 жыл бұрын
At 20:55, " module doesn't respond to negative voltages…" Hmm, if only there was something you could use as an offset…
@Lewp77
@Lewp77 2 жыл бұрын
for relaz
@PandaPotPies
@PandaPotPies 3 жыл бұрын
watching this to understand how to use my befaco rampage
@dangala6915
@dangala6915 2 жыл бұрын
I hear no music
@orangememes1826
@orangememes1826 Жыл бұрын
15:35 🚔🚨
@damiandassen7763
@damiandassen7763 6 жыл бұрын
5 OR 3 OR 0 OR 0 = 7, not 5 as you stated here 1:50
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 6 жыл бұрын
So the "SUM" output would be 7. But the OR output outputs the highest value out of the inputs (in this case 5). From the manual: "It always outputs the highest voltage out of all the voltages applied to the inputs".
@damiandassen7763
@damiandassen7763 6 жыл бұрын
once upon a synth i accidentally stumbled upon this video i'm here with a mathematical background. I guess that that OR function isn't the same as the mathematical OR function i searched for analog computer and this was the first hit. When i wrote that comment i thought that this was a genuine analog computer video. I didn't realize that this was about music
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 6 жыл бұрын
Ah got it that makes sense.
@manfrombkk
@manfrombkk 7 жыл бұрын
mathematical bleeps and burps and farts. Personally I like your more melodic use of this gear. The more and more esoteric modules, it seems like not only do people go down deep financial holes, but never really get to master anything. And unless, one takes a photos of all the knob and patch cable positions, Its unlikely that, if one does create something musical(assuming that is even a goal) then they would never be able to get that patch back again. Of course, some people like our author here, actually might be able to, because he has a unbelievable knowledge of how gear works. IMHO of course. Oh the love of Modular :-)
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah modulars are interesting beasts. I definitely need much more practice with it in order to coax something other than bleeps and bloops out of it. My goal with this eurorack box is to explore more experimental sounds because I already have too many traditional synths. I think the key for me will be utilizing a quantized sequencer or a standard keyboard and making modulation much more subtle. I was listening to this podcast the other day where they mentioned that modulars should be treated like traditional instruments in that you need lots of practice to get it to sound good. The problem is most people swap out module and re-configure the modular too often so it becomes harder to master one setup. Hopefully with enough patience and practice I will end up with something more melodic and pleasing. Thanks for the feedback!
@juergenbranz
@juergenbranz 7 жыл бұрын
what podcast was it? great video series btw!!
@onceuponasynth
@onceuponasynth 7 жыл бұрын
Jürgen Branz Thanks! It was on the "Art + Music Technology" podcast, the episode where he interviews Tom Erbe (at around the 13:30 mark). artmusictech.libsyn.com/podcast-150-tom-erbe
@juergenbranz
@juergenbranz 7 жыл бұрын
once upon a synth ah yeah, was listening to that one too lately. top stuff. cheers!
@reekhavok2724
@reekhavok2724 6 жыл бұрын
Very well done. Answers a lot of Q's!
@Muck-qy2oo
@Muck-qy2oo 4 жыл бұрын
If there is a processor in it, it's not an analogue computer anymore.
@NuisanceMan
@NuisanceMan Жыл бұрын
Maybe a hybrid computer?
@LeonTrimble
@LeonTrimble 6 жыл бұрын
@26:30 you crazy bastid
@margateswede
@margateswede 26 күн бұрын
Thank you
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