Make Stains Look Better! | DIY Blotch Prevention Formula

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0:00 - Nee Mug
0:42 - What is Blotch?
2:42 - Classic Blotch Remedies
6:16 - My Formula (DIY Recipe)
7:21 - Does adding the finish actually make a difference?
8:16 - Testing Different Methods
11:30 - Testing Different Stains
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@woodwhisperer 3 жыл бұрын

0:42 - What is Blotch? 2:42 - Classic Blotch Remedies 6:16 - My Formula (DIY Recipe) 7:21 - Does adding the finish actually make a difference? 8:16 - Testing Different Methods 11:30 - Testing Different Stains

@Z0idberg100 3 жыл бұрын

Just for future reference, the test where you mirror a board by cutting it in half and staining both sides is flawed. The grain that "goes up" on one piece and absorbs more stain will be going down on the other board, since you flipped one of the boards upside down. If you did this and stained both boards the same way, I'd expect the dark and light spots to be opposite of each other, which is the case for many parts of the samples. I'm assuming the samples that contradict my theory are due to effects of the blotch remedies, but I can't be sure. This test is better than using two completely different boards, but not as good as your initial test that involved the laborious process of moving to a lower layer of the same board to perform tests. Therefore, even though I agree with the conclusion you come to, I think you came to it based on the results of a flawed test. Regardless, the video is still good and very informative. Thanks.

@AnEvolvingApe 3 жыл бұрын

@16:01 - What is Belch?

@nathanmitchell4839 2 жыл бұрын

Bob Flexner's Understanding Wood Finishing say's that the instructions on the pre-stain can are wrong and you're supposed to let it dry 24hrs or 6-8hrs on a hot dry day before staining, he also say's gel stain can be an alternative to pre-staining. Thanks for the glue tip, I'll try it, I think the pre-stain gel stain makes more sense if it's a big project like a kitchen or built-in.

@carolmaltbie5233 Жыл бұрын

How long should the Marc Juice dry before staining?

@luisgonzalez8415 Жыл бұрын

What stain were you using at the 5 min mark? I think you used the same stain the whole video. Was it a dye?

@melissapoole8580 3 ай бұрын

THANK YOUUUUUUU!!! Your DIY has changed everything for me. I use a lot of pine for dining tables simply because where I live, people will not pay for hardwood. I just used this on my favorite pine and it's gorgeous!!!!!

@timothycreasy2161 3 жыл бұрын

Comedian and a serious maker, rolled into one,... that is why I love watching your videos Marc

@brandonhoffman4712 3 ай бұрын

Ya, it's for the Mark juice!

@CBaden 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Mark! I was scared to renovate my old pine table as years ago I messed up the color wax (blotchy). But after watching your tips over and over I felt confident. The Juice worked perfectly and there’s ony a tiny amount of blotching on the stained surface of my fantastic ‘new’ table. I will enjoy it for years now. Thanks from The Netherlands (Europe).

@daveknott4563 3 жыл бұрын

Such a great video. Thanks for all the work gone into this. It’s always an age old issue when you produce an amazing piece and ready for the finish, then it blotches and messes up the overall look. Thank you very much!

@JJ-fd2ob 2 жыл бұрын

WOW - Marc this video was a lifesaver. I milled custom doors out of maple for an entertainment centre I built, and they stained horribly (I chose dark walnut varathane). Very blotchy after using Minwax's Wood Conditioner. I was ready to throw in the towel, but 'Marc Juice' saved the day. They came out looking like a professionally stained set of maple doors! This was the last piece on a very complicated (for me) build....so I'm very happy with the result. This stuff is GOLD. Huge appreciation for this video.

@skipanardoross6805 Жыл бұрын

This video required a lot of time and effort. What a lot of us don't realize is that these videos are a gamble. Whether you present a simple tutorial or one as involved as this one, you don't know until you put it out there. I'm sure it was in the back of your mind the whole time; "is this going to be worth the effort?" I hope it was/is. It certainly gave me some useful information and I want to thank you.

@eodozzy 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for keeping your vids education focused and not focused on the awkwardly obvious product placements. Another great one Marc.

@Mr.GucciClass1A 3 жыл бұрын

I love the whimsical MS!!! I’m glad he’s back. Similar to your early content, the fun, playful, and humorous style was what made me drawn to your channel! I love me some Marc Juice! Thanks for the insight; I can’t wait to try it!

@danalaniz7314 2 жыл бұрын

I started DIY woodworking and have learned a lot. Recently my biggest challenge has been blotching because all I'm using during this learning period is the consumer pine from the big box stores. This gives me new hope. Thanks!

@vitob5898 Жыл бұрын

You put A LOT of work in this video... right down to the crazy editing! Much appreciated. Excellent video.

@mrpogueman 3 жыл бұрын

Really appreciate you putting in the tags for the video, thanks for taking that time!

@vs77mail 3 жыл бұрын

Big thanks man! I work with pine most of the time and this will solve my problem. Great video and very well explained. Thanks for sharing.

@ramachandran8666 3 жыл бұрын

very useful and practical tips and examples I can use. I have always struggled with getting even (ok consistent) staining in my finished piece of furniture especially with the kind of common woods you mentioned. In my early days before YT videos chose just not to stain most of my projects. I have hopes to do better with some of the techniques you have suggested. Thanks for such in-depth videos on critical steps like finishing a well-made piece of wooden project

@migalito1955 2 жыл бұрын

I took up the building of stringed instruments in my retirement. I found your analysis and demonstrations regarding finishes and stains incredibly helpful!

@neilbrown3902 3 жыл бұрын

This was probably the best and most useful video you’ve ever made. Thank you

@meastrau4772 Жыл бұрын

Thank you soooo much🙏🙏🙏 I was so afraid to mess up my boards, now not anymore. What a great video and explanations.

@Ukjon72 3 жыл бұрын

I used the same sort of juice on an end grain counter. Works surprisingly well on end grain as well.

@howtoassembleyourfurniture3867 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the testing and sharing the formula for a great economical DIY alternative to expensive wood conditioners.

@robertsmith1889 3 жыл бұрын

I like the Sunday morning release.

@jeffreysmith5018 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Marc - I really appreciate this sort of ‘wood whispering’ looking forward to more 😀

@davidnichols4939 3 жыл бұрын

Soon to be heard all across the land...."gimme soma dat Marc Juice"

@woodwhisperer 3 жыл бұрын

Look for it at your local 7-11!

@diversify210 3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't be buying anything called marc juice......lol. The name just makes me cringe

@JGlick1390 2 жыл бұрын

From the makers of the spag stick, spag juice.

@jamesoneal6756 2 жыл бұрын

Just wanted you to know that I tried your recipe on some 100+ year-old reclaimed pine I'm practicing on before using it to build an electric guitar body out of. It worked well to prep the surface before applying a water-based dye and really appreciate you passing on this formula. I have a pic of the results if you want it. Thanks.

@Ace345499 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Mark and behind the scenes crew love the new format and hope you stick with it.

@daven1991 2 ай бұрын

I have avoided staining pine over the years but this method seems like a winner but will have to try this myself. I have tried several other methods but none seem to give me results I was looking for so gave up but this is giving me hope as I just build a standing mirror frame and will give this a shot. I appreciate your time on this.

@brucec954 3 жыл бұрын

Very useful video. I tend to just use thinned Shellac because I almost always use Shellac as a finish so very convenient to use the same product and I know will be compatible.

@BiggMo 3 жыл бұрын

Mark - thanks for sharing your formula, you could had easily canned and sold it - On glue sizing, I have found that Old school Elmers white school glue works great. I’ll need to experiment with the addition of a clear water born finish.

@claudiakelly1749 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Mark for this helpful tip. I am having all my pine floors refinished. After sanding off the floor's old stain, I used a wood conditioner and then had a good quality stain applied. The results were horrific. I was really perplexed because I had done everything right, or so I thought. I am excited to try the Mark Juice and have my floors re-sanded and finished, this time with better results.

@aaroncashion7570 3 жыл бұрын

Marc Juice every week on a Sunday. I’m all in. Great video Marc!

@jeanniegrassi1294 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video, Marc. Very helpful. Cool new mugs.

@ossieljuarez1936 3 жыл бұрын

This video has come at the perfect time. I'm just about to stain a dining table for the first time.

@mariuszslawik59 Жыл бұрын

Great and informative video! I really like how commited you were to testing. Fair comparison of all the methods. I'm subbed! I have one observation, however - the method you proposed solves the blotch problem, no doubt, but the wood stained without treatment has something very beautiful in it. The contours of wood grain are more visible, the contrasts are more interesting. That being said. if you want an artistic finish that enhances the beauty of the wood grain, it is better to stain without treatment and just work your way to a beautiful stained look through staining and sanding multiple times. This is how musical instruments are stained. The effects of great luthiers' work are truly stunning with this method.

@jsed8399 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Marc. Just started listening to your podcast. Just wanted to let you know you KZfaq video was in my feed. Good job with everything you do 👍

@MD-yp7im Жыл бұрын

This was the most efficient comparison! Super helpful! Following

@NerdyCats3 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your effort in this. I have a pine board and I'm new to staining so I'm happy to have found your site prior to diving in then crying later.

@laroseauxboisrosewoodwoodw8585 3 жыл бұрын

Yaye finaly someone that dives into a problem that was mine for a very long time 👏👏👏. Thank you soooo mutch for making this video . Never thought that your juice would be so miraculus 😜🤣👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

@MCsCreations 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty interesting results, dude! Fantastic work! 😃 Thanks a lot for all the tips!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@anabelagonzales3242 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video, so helpful! I've been using boiled linseed oil as conditioner followed by oil based stain and poly and that's helped a little but I'm looking forward to trying your recipe.

@youtubechannel12371 2 жыл бұрын

This is amazing and exactly what I was looking for. Thanks Marc and thanks Marc Juice 🥤

@gbirg 5 ай бұрын

Best detailed experimentation with multiple formulas.

@seanpatterson1609 3 жыл бұрын

This is one of, if not your best, video on this channel.

@rusticduckfurniture4744 3 жыл бұрын

LOVED this and had never considered it before! Thanks Mark ☺

@robertc2918 3 жыл бұрын

Keep the blue mug. It looks good. I'm liking the increase in videos. You are a natural teacher.

@paulboulton681 3 жыл бұрын

good demonstration Marc, will try it on my next project!

@upperella 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing this information! Also thank you for setting the mood in the beginning. 😂 Definitely cheered me up right from the start!

@HampsteadHomestead 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting this, I was really hoping to see this when you had the Instagram post not too long ago.

@floydbrennan9300 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video sir a lot of information I will definitely be giving this a try thank you

@jessec8562 2 жыл бұрын

This is a very helpful and useful video, thanks for all the effort

@inspiringbuilds 3 жыл бұрын

Marc’s mix is super consistent and looking good! Keep up the great work as the goal is for us to continue to inspire others to build something awesome! 👍🏼

@edwardsimmons3721 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip. Great information I have experienced this on many projects.

@PostmanStudio 2 жыл бұрын

That the best video about pine blotching solution around, I alway used shellac as washcoat and this gives good results but with some annoying issues, so I can't wait to try your own recipe!

@johannes.f.r. 3 жыл бұрын

Just a simple soap finish, lovely.

@meatwhisperer 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! Good information as always!

@FredMcIntyre 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info Marc! 😃👍🏻👊🏻

@robg4843 2 жыл бұрын

As you already know that was very informative. You put a lot of work into this video. That gets a Sub from me. Well done!

@robertbamford8266 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent examples. Thorough method for creating comparables. Glue + sawdust as filler. Glue + stain + water as conditioner. We’re going to need a bigger bottle of glue. Thanks for the video!

@jimarcher159 3 жыл бұрын

Very informative video. I like your style.

@davidpatton7706 7 ай бұрын

Mark, thank you for your great suggestions on how to stain with minimal blotches. I have struggled for several years trying to obtain a uniform stain coverage on hard maple. Following your guidance, my staining has improved. I do have a suggestion that gave me an even more consistent stain. After plaining my plank of hard maple, I sand with an 80 grit wood sandpaper and then 120 grit, using a random, orbital sander with vaccuum attachment. I then lightly, hand sand with 150 grit sandpaper in the direction of the grain. I apply your prescribed mixture of wood glue, polycyclic varnish and distilled water. After it dries, I do not sand it, but apply two coats of stain (per stain application directions), followed by a clear polyurethane varnish. After the varnish hardens, I then lightly hand sand with 220 grit sandpaper and add subsequent layers of varnish. I see a marked improvement of the stain coverage, that I assume is due to the mixture raising the grain - allowing improved absorbtion of the stain. I have also applied this technique using dyes and polycrylic clear coat with comporable results. Plus, I had similar results on 6" x 12" pieces of soft maple, white oak, red oak and ash. I now look forward to future projects using maple.

@markstockton3604 3 жыл бұрын

I've been using "Mark" juice for 10 years. I works amazing to seal cut sides on MDF as well. Which is a must if you're going to be painting it for finishing.

@brandonhoffman4712 3 ай бұрын

For paint I would think a shellac would work faster, being alcohol based. Ready for the next step 3x faster guaranteed!

@MC-pg2ko Жыл бұрын

@ The Wood Whisperer. Great demo and suggestions. Thanks for sharing. I have just installed a 70m2 rough-treated softwood timber deck. I'm not sure whether to stain or paint it. I like the idea of seeing the grain (using stain) but worry about the blotching. I may try out your glue recipe. The alternative is painting the deck and then woodgraining it, but I'm new to this and don't know what ratio of glaze to paint I need for a 70m2 deck!

@danielgeng2306 3 жыл бұрын

Ok… I’ll use it… but I’m not calling it Marc juice, I’ll call it Marc’s anti blotch serum, or Marc’s magical anti blotch elixir… but not Marc juice !

@jonsstuff760 2 жыл бұрын

😆

@clickster1883 Жыл бұрын

😂🤣😂

@daimyo2k 11 ай бұрын

Great vid! Thank you for the help. And BRAVO to the "Back to the Future" props on the wall =D

@roberth4190 3 жыл бұрын

Trying this right now!

@noyesharrigan6217 2 жыл бұрын

Looks great. Going to give it a try. Does the water raise the grain? Do you wait for Marc juice to dry before applying an an oil based stain?

@jhc500 3 жыл бұрын

I use 40% glue by volume for general finishes dye stain. Love it on pine and poplar. Really stubborn wood gets two coats of the glue size. I find a second thin coat is easier then mixing something thicker.

@reforzar 2 жыл бұрын

Preparation is good on the whole.

@jfl-mw8rp 3 жыл бұрын

I've been using Charles Neil the past 5 years with an oil stain. I'll have to test your recipe Marc. Thx

@alecledbetter Жыл бұрын

Shout out to Marc Juice! Came searching for a solution after my unfinished pine shelves were blotchy even after using a pre-stain conditioner. Wish I saw this video before, could've saved me a lot of sanding to remove the old finish. This stuff really works! Made a smaller batch of Marc Juice since it was a little project: 10g wood glue, 10g water-based stain, 240g water

@aresp2707 Жыл бұрын

You got me with the coffee drinking for a second there while I wasn't looking at the screen. All of that slurping sounded like you were blasting off with a big flower powered glass piece. Lol 😵 I was expecting to look up a see Matthew McConaughey at the high school lurking with the bell bottoms again. 😅 Thanks for the video.

@biwan428 3 жыл бұрын

General Finishes Gel Stain has always been my go to for pine. It feels more like a paint than a stain.

@Fusterclucked00 Жыл бұрын

I use that same Varathane conditioner on my hardwood projects and I find that it gives the grain a gorgeous pop even without stain. Whenever I use mango wood I don't even stain it. The conditioner makes it look amazing on its own.

@shmutube Жыл бұрын

Very helpful - thanks for the methodical work! I have some red oak cabinets I'm planning to stain with a light oil (maybe gel?) stain and was wondering if I should even bother with a conditioner...I think I will do it, but maybe just a relatively light coat and only on the more obviously darker areas... hhmmm...

@davidduke4222 Жыл бұрын

Hello Mark great video, I want to try your conditioner on a large table top. Since I can only finish one side at the time and the conditioner is water-based, have you experienced any possibility of warping? I have only used oil based pre stain conditioners, and this definitely looks like a better choice. Thanks for your help

@Georgesvangansen 11 ай бұрын

Thank you!! really saved my day!!

@jefferyhunter1665 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your recipe for bloch control and I like the name "Marc Juice."

@lilBugger35 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing. I will try out the Marc Juice.

@kamilegier4730 Жыл бұрын

I need another name for it because when my husband ask what I got my clothes I don’t think it’s a good idea to say, “Oh it’s Marc’s juice!”

@xzzdm 2 жыл бұрын

Marc Juice is fantastic! Great video! Thanks for sharing the trick!

@doubleblessing Жыл бұрын

Helpful. AND love the dinosaur print and the fabulous California Sunset license plate - best ever.

@kannanaiyar5291 Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Marc. Your videos are a great help to me. I am about to stain my solid pine stair treads to match the hallway wood flooring which has a "cheery oak" finish with definite cheery red tones in a darker background. I am learning a lot from your videos on staining. I am planning to try the Juice. You mention that adding a little of the stain to the juice helps, but I am planning to use an oil-based stain for its durability when compared with water-based. Can I still add some to the Juice? After seeing another one of your videos, I am also considering a gel stain for this instead of oil-based. Will the Juice work with gel stain?

@g-dog100 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant!!! Thank you for your hard work! … so don’t have to!!!

@chrisnavich 2 жыл бұрын

For anyone working with birch, I made this and tried it with a water based stain compared to varathane’s oil based conditioner. The DIY solution gave the birch noticeable black specks where the grain recessed (same with no conditioner), whereas the varathane removed the specks and evened out the transitions between the changes in wood tone. So wouldn’t recommend for birch, but it looks great on the wood in this video.

@BrianCrink Жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris. Just saved me hours of experimenting. Will use the commercial oil based conditioner for butcher block desktop

@daimyo2k 11 ай бұрын

Hey Chris, do you know if that goes for water based as well??

@olegx.8173 6 ай бұрын

Can we use oil-based conditioners for water-based stains? AFAIK it's against manufacturers' recommendations. Did you have positive experience making so? Finding water-based conditioner is impossible where I live so I am in search for blotch preventing solution for birch plywood and water-based stain.

@jdk5673777 Жыл бұрын

Hey great video and great results! What kind of gel stain did you use near the end of the video?

@joshuasmith1215 2 жыл бұрын

I woulda loved to see you try water popping. Haven't tried it but I've read that it helps.

@chesterowen2255 3 жыл бұрын

Great info, thanks

@garyhome7101 3 жыл бұрын

I've had good luck with gel stain on cherry that had a lot of different grain changes. Usually took a couple of applications to get an even looking stain though. I'll test your recipe on a hickory project I'm working on. It has a lot of variable grain patterns that might not take stain evenly. Thanks for this video, very informative!

@joelsusser32 Жыл бұрын

I do something a little different than others. After sanding to 180 I put on two light coats of wipe on poly. Then I lightly sand. Then I put gel stain on top and wipe off the excess. Then I let it dry for the night. Then about 3 more coats of wipe on poly. Then some 4 steel wool with paste wax. Try it and let me know if you like it.

@Knappconstruction Жыл бұрын

I made it and hope it will help with my maple project

@n0vaph0enix 3 жыл бұрын

Great idea that I’m definitely going to try! But maybe I’ll just call it adding a WhisperCoat™ 🤣

@captainadams7569 2 жыл бұрын

I have to try the Mark juice. What i find that helps me is i will brush on the stain, then i'll use a second cleaner brush to remove the excess stain. It's basically prevents the stain from penetrating as deep as it would when using a rag which will mash the finish into the wood. Good job Mark

@tianwang 2 жыл бұрын

I have stained every single blotchy wood you mentioned and I consistent got terrible results even with shellac precast, thanks for this idea!

@philshock3805 3 жыл бұрын

What a great demo! If this is part of the increased frequency strategy, I'm digging it! I'd love to say gimme some Marc Juice... but I just can't.

@nickr9784 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve made the glue size and have had good luck with it but hated dealing with sanding the grain back. I’ve recently have had great results, actually better results using clear gel varnish as the prefinish and immediately apply gel stain over top the clear before it dries. The clear controls the absorption without sealing off the color coat. Major plus is no grain raising

@lindamowry5855 2 жыл бұрын

Nick Ramey, can you tell me what products you used? Thanks!

@nickr9784 2 жыл бұрын

@@lindamowry5855 General Finishes Gel Topcoat (the clear) and General Finishes Gel Stain.

@jocmarti 3 жыл бұрын

Marc’s Juice is so amazing, I bet it could create life.

@guillermopalmisano8957 3 жыл бұрын

I was just thinking about this last night. I remember seeing you post your results on Instagram and was going to try a pre stain today. Thanks for the great content Marc.

@brucemccaffrey9816 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much I tried Marc juice and got a amazing result no blotching or streaks made my project look great which was something I struggled with previously thanks again for the tip.

@stanhilinski7280 4 ай бұрын

I was determined to stain a poplar side table that I built. I watched videos to see how to do it. I did what they said, and the result was awful. It looked like I would paint, but then I saw this video and thought I'd give it a chance. It worked! I didn't need a quart of juice, so I calculated: 1 part glue to 20 parts water. I added enough dye to see color in the juice, probably about 3 parts. First I sanded. I had some 1000 grit at hand, so I used it as the last sanding. I then wetted it to raise the grain and sanded again. I then applied the juice, and it looked great. The stain was an amber dye. It was not my final stain. I used it as an undercoat to the final stain--a gel stain, Bartley's Colonial Maple. When dry, I sanded it with the 1000 grit, applied a second coat of juice, and sanded again. Once that was dry, I applied the gel stain. The results were terrific. I was at the point of despair, and this saved the day. Thank you.

@Chiyo18 Жыл бұрын

very helpful video :) i have a basswood guitar body, that i want to stain, to try and get a nice deep red wine color. i already sanded it with 180 and 240 grit sandpaper. however, i forgot to prep the wood first, and ended up with some very prominent light areas that, regardless of what i do, just don't want to suck up any stain. question: if i sand it down, as much as i can, back to the original wood, what (if anything) can i do to get those really light areas to accept the stain more? also, if i prep the wood with the "marc juice", can i stain it multiple times to get the deep color i'm going for? or will it mainly remain a lighter shade, because of the "juice"? thanks in advance for any help :D

@gordoncouch1420 3 ай бұрын

I’ve had good results with very strong black tea as a conditioner. I’ve used it on pine and cherry and have been very happy with the results. I use 10 bags of English black breakfast tea in 1 pint of boiling water. Let it cool and paint it on and dry. Sand lightly to remove the fuzz and stain.