Making a BIG Tularosa Pot Without Breaking It (Hopefully)

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Andy Ward's Ancient Pottery

Andy Ward's Ancient Pottery

Ай бұрын

In which I make a BIG Tularosa Black on White pot as the third pot in the Ancient Pottery Challenge.
Learn how I dry process wild clay: • The Best Way to Proces...
My original Tularosa video where the pot broke • How to Make a Large Po...
My last successful reduction firing • Reduction Pottery Firi...
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Airstream Wanderings: • Mimbres Style Reduced ...
Mark Gibson's Southwest Pottery: • Trench Kiln (Cibola Wh...
The original pot I am replicating here - fineart.ha.com/itm/native-ame...
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@nathanbrendle4409
@nathanbrendle4409 Ай бұрын
My 3 year old loves to watch you paint your pots, she always asks if “this is a video where Andy paints” keep it up! Paint more!
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
That's cool, I always have to speed up the painting or else it would be super boring.
@willorocks
@willorocks Ай бұрын
Congrats Andy!!! It turned out just beautiful!!! Been eagerly awaiting this video and was worth the wait! Thanks so much for the shout out too! Looked like everything went very smooth for you in this firing. That small bit of carbon you got is a great testament of how that pot was fired!
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Thanks Will. Let's see if I can bump up your subscriber count today, currently at 1.21K
@chloeuntrau4588
@chloeuntrau4588 26 күн бұрын
Exactly!
@ChadZuberAdventures
@ChadZuberAdventures 28 күн бұрын
That pot turned out absolutely gorgeous! Nearly perfect! Everything was so well presented in this video. Thanks for your hard work Andy.
@Twitchi
@Twitchi 27 күн бұрын
Actually gave a little out loud "Yeahhhh" when I saw that white and black and, most of all, solid pot come out of the pit!!! So good
@airstreamwanderings3683
@airstreamwanderings3683 Ай бұрын
Terrific job and what a relief! The large sherds look like an important component. Thanks for the mention.
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
That's true, the larger the pot, the larger the needed cover sherds to get the job done
@angeladazlich7145
@angeladazlich7145 Ай бұрын
This heals my grief over the earlier Tularosa pot :) I think I'll adopt the nest idea, my big pot slumped. Great video.
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Thanks Angela, I know a lot of people have expressed concern about that broken pot. Hopefully this makes it better.
@markgibsons_SWpottery
@markgibsons_SWpottery Ай бұрын
That is perfect,... If they come out any cleaner than that, In my opinion it would look less authentic,. We enjoyed this video a lot and absolutely love how that pot came out! Thanks for the mention and thanks for the lessons!
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
That's a good point. I hope you get some views from this. I am looking forward to your next video.
@valsalas666
@valsalas666 Ай бұрын
andy i loved how long this video was! the attention to each step in the process, with such beautiful shots taken too. i liked to hear the sounds of the scraping and shaping of the pottery. beautiful video and i would love to see more in this style!
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Thanks, I will do more. Of course the length of the video is influenced by the size of the pot so the next may be a bit shorter.
@user-kh7ik6ur7i
@user-kh7ik6ur7i Ай бұрын
Great work,Andy, remarkable Greetings from Serbia
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@cliffordkelly5327
@cliffordkelly5327 Ай бұрын
Howdy Andy , Great Video ! This is truly one of the best , “how to videos”, that will go down in history ! I watched this video twice, so far ! All of the care in building, shaping, smoothing , slipping, painting, drying & firing ! I am so happy to see you master the art of smothering & achieving reduced iron paint! I’m also happy to know that your 1st Tularosa Olla found a great home ! My guess was 12 coils , bcuz of the size you were going for ! Being sick is no joy, when one is doing what he loves best ! Great job & happy to see THIS video come out , please take care & keep them coming !!
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Thanks Cliff! You were so close with 12 coils.
@AncientAmericas
@AncientAmericas Ай бұрын
One of your best pots ever! It looks incredible!
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Thanks so much 😊
@fatbuttbassett4732
@fatbuttbassett4732 24 күн бұрын
Nice to see AA following here. 2 of my most enjoyed channels. Im always amazed how little i know of pre-columbian american history despite considering myself above average knowledge. Thank you BOTH for furthering my persuit of knowledge and skills!
@GhostyOcean
@GhostyOcean Ай бұрын
I made myself a small pot this week, maybe 6-8" tall. This is my first real attempt at decorating with slip. I bought some colored clays of amazon (they're meant to be used as face masks!) and did some test firings to see what color they'll come out to. What really surprised me is how smooth the slip layer is, I haven't even stone polished it yet and it feels so nice.
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
That sounds cool. Do those clays keep their colors through the fire?
@llanitedave
@llanitedave Ай бұрын
That cleaned up really well. I think it may be your best one yet! And I guessed less than 10 coils, but you outsmarted me by making those upper coils smaller!
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Yes, thanks Dave. Those coils had to get smaller as the clay started wanting to sag, that is probably why my guess was short too.
@capuchinosofia4771
@capuchinosofia4771 29 күн бұрын
Oh I absolutely overshoot! I guessed around 30! Well, anyone can tell I dont do pottery hahaha The pot turned out fantastic! Its super cool that the pigment turned black, too! Thank you for the video Andy!
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery 28 күн бұрын
You're welcome, glad you enjoyed the video.
@jeanettewaverly2590
@jeanettewaverly2590 Ай бұрын
Congratulations! That is loveliness embodied.
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Thanks
@aligatortatotatotaovic1890
@aligatortatotatotaovic1890 27 күн бұрын
I was going to a nearby lake and I tripped on a molehill, it turned out that I found the perfect yellow clay, I don't even need to add fine sand because it is perfect and I will soon start making figures and other things from it, incredible. 😊
@ocean.almajeda
@ocean.almajeda 12 күн бұрын
Brilliant! I guessed 12 coils initially. But you hyped it so much I thought I was too conservative so I changed my guess to 24 😆 That first pot breaking would have brought me to my knees!
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery 12 күн бұрын
LOL, I over-hyped it. Occasional breakage is just a part of making pottery however distressing it is.
@MirrimBlackfox
@MirrimBlackfox Ай бұрын
I was close! I guessed 12! I build with much smaller coils, so if it where me it would be 20 to 30, but I knew you favored bigger ones so I guessed what I thought was a ridiculously low number and I still wasn't low enough!
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
That's funny, I think most people over-guessed.
@masonwelty8058
@masonwelty8058 2 күн бұрын
The last time I tried firing pottery, all 10+ pieces I had made were destroyed by my prop rocks exploding. Two lessons learned: don't put all your eggs in one basket until you trust your technique, and don't use props that will explode. Andy, what types of rocks are generally safe? I used andesite, an igneous rock very common in the Madison Range of Montana. Edit: I forgot to say, amazing work!
@spitrock33
@spitrock33 Ай бұрын
Cranking the corn grinder is a heavy duty job lol thanks for your work
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
You're welcome, I have to get my exercise somehow
@mihailvormittag6211
@mihailvormittag6211 Ай бұрын
👍 This is good video production: building up a pot combined whit the history of it's macking art. I like it! 👍
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@mihailvormittag6211
@mihailvormittag6211 Ай бұрын
@@AncientPottery 👍
@marleneruddell9395
@marleneruddell9395 Ай бұрын
Excellent result, and what a beautiful pot. Great video, loved seeing it start to finish, what a treat.
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching
@Kargoneth
@Kargoneth Ай бұрын
Beautiful results! A shame about the carbon deposit. Thanks for the video. Hypnotic credits with the spinning pot.
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Thanks. Like someone said, the carbon spot makes it look more authentic.
@christophermauchline2586
@christophermauchline2586 Ай бұрын
Very beautiful pot! I had guessed 12 coils, so I guess I was close.
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Very close
@largestpoppa
@largestpoppa Ай бұрын
Ive become a recent fan but love your channel. Funny educational and very interesting. Much love from Australia
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@RosesAreForever1871
@RosesAreForever1871 27 күн бұрын
I just finished watching your previous attempt and I’m so happy to see you trying again! I guessed 10 coils!
@mathiasbadilla7957
@mathiasbadilla7957 27 күн бұрын
Beautiful!! 😍
@andrewsackville-west1609
@andrewsackville-west1609 25 күн бұрын
Congratulations, Andy. That's a beautiful pot and a really well executed production. Inspiring!
@KySilvi
@KySilvi 18 күн бұрын
Really great work on the pot and lovely video! I guessed 10 coils - so close :) I imagine that drying pots evenly involved a great deal of re-wetting areas that are drying too fast. Seems to me that that is what children might've been tasked with.
@sharonwhiteman6874
@sharonwhiteman6874 28 күн бұрын
Beautiful work, I'm glad it came out intact
@claraallen12
@claraallen12 Ай бұрын
YES!!!!
@ShereeBent
@ShereeBent 5 күн бұрын
This is beautiful! Thanks for sharing this labour of love.
@dolphin9719
@dolphin9719 26 күн бұрын
Wonderful to watch you make this pot, Andy, bravo👏 thanks for sharing!
@user-no8wc9zl3v
@user-no8wc9zl3v 3 күн бұрын
Looks great
@margiegandy9189
@margiegandy9189 26 күн бұрын
Beautiful piece of artwork! Wonderfully documented!
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery 26 күн бұрын
Many thanks!
@Raviolikid
@Raviolikid Ай бұрын
Beautiful pot!
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Thank you! 😊
@elainecrawford6891
@elainecrawford6891 26 күн бұрын
Gorgeous! ❤👍
@dezertdrifter
@dezertdrifter Ай бұрын
What a success! Great video and thanks for the knowledge you share!
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@AshersWonkyPottery-gt8zw
@AshersWonkyPottery-gt8zw Ай бұрын
That is your best reduced iron paint!
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Yes, now to see if I can do it again.
@coopart1
@coopart1 Ай бұрын
Super fantastic !! What a great all around success Andy. Looks amazing
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Thanks Jeff, this is probably my best reduction firing yet. I actually have a bunch of pots to refire so maybe I'll try again in a similar fashion.
@randy-eb5kr
@randy-eb5kr Ай бұрын
Awesome video 👍
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Thank you 👍
@cindydawson3815
@cindydawson3815 Ай бұрын
❤ Looks great 👍! Congratulations 👏. Thanks for sharing
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Thanks
@margaretsmith8066
@margaretsmith8066 Ай бұрын
Such beautiful work
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Thank you so much 😀
@IceLynne
@IceLynne Ай бұрын
Wow, that came out so good! I'm beyond impressed 😍
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Thank you!! 😊
@stephenwalford774
@stephenwalford774 Ай бұрын
Fantastic result Andy..been a windy road getting there..Going to look good on your shelf
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Thanks Steve, it will look even better on somebody else's shelf.
@Kargoneth
@Kargoneth Ай бұрын
You pose an interesting quandary: how did the ancients dry their pots uniformly? Would they have access to large amounts of grass or woven grass in Arizona? Perhaps they covered the pots in cover sherds. Anything to minimize airflow, rate of moisture loss, and heating. If you dampened the coverings, then they would humidify the pot somewhat uniformly, and as they dried they would dry the pot somewhat uniformly. Give it a try with a tall tubular pot. If the bedding of the pot were to rest on top of plant matter, then it should also be able to participate in the humidification and drying.
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Good thoughts. Yes they had grass and woven matts as well as woven cloth. I have wondered about the use of damp cotton cloth but have never experimented with that.
@ShawnRitch
@ShawnRitch Ай бұрын
Well done good sir !
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Thanks
@Tzarina8472
@Tzarina8472 Ай бұрын
GG It's beautiful!
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Thanks! 😄
@petrapetrakoliou8979
@petrapetrakoliou8979 Ай бұрын
7 coils, maybe 8. For drying I would have just put it upside down on top of the rim with a cloth underneath so that it could contract easily, and all parts get access to air in a similar way. Same thing for the firing, but I am guessing you put it right side up to keep the designs as clean as possible.
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Yes, fired right side up because it is hard to get the bottom clean. But when drying the top is rather fragile, I could have broken the rim off if I had set it upside down, at least early on.
@orellinvvardengra6775
@orellinvvardengra6775 Ай бұрын
I know it sounds selfish but I feel like this channel is a little personal hidden gem. I would love to get into this, once I get a firm handle on my other hobbies first lol! I've just begun wood working and not even enough to warrant being good at it. I was also thinking it would have taken 14 coils, close but no cigar!
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
I hope you can find time to try it after you are done with woodworking.
@orellinvvardengra6775
@orellinvvardengra6775 Ай бұрын
@@AncientPottery Oh I will more than likely take my first steps this summer if I'm being honest!
@toddstropicals
@toddstropicals Ай бұрын
I guessed 12 coils... Horseshoes & hand grenades. Beautiful pot!
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Yeah, that's pretty close. Thanks
@sallyboyd1212
@sallyboyd1212 Ай бұрын
I first thought 14, then revised to 20. I guess I was way over!!
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Thanks for playing
@birgittenielsen2454
@birgittenielsen2454 26 күн бұрын
I guessed 10 to 12 coins. Now you inspireret me to try to make one. A big one. 😁
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery 26 күн бұрын
Good guess. Now do it!
@birgittenielsen2454
@birgittenielsen2454 25 күн бұрын
Coils
@NConnoisseur
@NConnoisseur 26 күн бұрын
Trying to get into low tech ceramics specifically for making ollas around the garden, love to see it
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery 26 күн бұрын
I have heard it said that "low tech ceramics" is just another was of saying "primitive pottery"
@ImDumb69420
@ImDumb69420 Ай бұрын
Awesome Andy,I'm thinking of making a large scale pot like yours,not as big though
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Go for it!
@Adriaanthecrafter
@Adriaanthecrafter Ай бұрын
When anyone asks me how I fire my pottery without a kiln or make pottery without a wheel I tell them to watch your videos and subscribe to your channel
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Thank you for the advertisement.
@nickbrackett9023
@nickbrackett9023 18 күн бұрын
3 minutes in, my guess is 17 coils 🤞love your work brother God bless
@chloeuntrau4588
@chloeuntrau4588 26 күн бұрын
So beautiful...
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery 26 күн бұрын
Thanks a lot 😊
@PSC9634
@PSC9634 Ай бұрын
Wow! The B/W jar came out beautiful. The ancients would be impressed! I think the reconstruction of your broken pot is rewarding too. I'm glad it was recovered. Great step by step instructions and cautions. I hope you're feeling better. PS: all the soil I see up on the rim is red. Are you going toward Show Low or just above Payson for white clay? A video on this search would be helpful.
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Yes, most of the ground up there is red and yet there are a lot of layers of grey and whiteish clays all around. I have never found any above Payson but I have found many from Springerville over to Heber. Try Forest Road 107 near Willow Wash, there is a road cut in there with a million different colors of clay including many light shades of grey/white
@PSC9634
@PSC9634 Ай бұрын
@@AncientPottery awesome. Thank you.
@AceFace50001
@AceFace50001 Ай бұрын
Ehhhh. I guessed 7 coils. I could tell by coil 4 that my guess was WAY off. Anyways, thanks for another great video!!
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and playing along
@guarnerrosales9806
@guarnerrosales9806 Ай бұрын
Olways SUPER Qlt Sir: my Respects, perfect Job Art ...Clay
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Thank you
@efethecaptain6
@efethecaptain6 Ай бұрын
My guess was 27 coils. I guess my typical coils are way smaller, that might explain why I'm having hard time using the coil method.
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
There are a million ways to do it, some prefer small coils and do amazing work that way. There is no right and wrong with pottery, just what works for each person.
@tallakff7349
@tallakff7349 Ай бұрын
Very strong work there. I knew an Andy Ward from Arizona while serving in Alaska 89-91 are you related or maybe the same Andy?
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Thsnkd. I have never been to Alaska
@GhostyOcean
@GhostyOcean Ай бұрын
It looks like each coil gives about 1 inch in height. I think the final pot is maybe 18 inches tall (excluding the neck) so maybe 25 coils to construct. The diameter of the pot is quite large, so a large portion will be used around that part.
@GhostyOcean
@GhostyOcean Ай бұрын
I was WAY off, almost doubles the amount 😅
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
The problem was you overestimated the height, the pot is closer to 12 inches high.
@Mackelsey
@Mackelsey Ай бұрын
Not even close, I guessed 15 coils
@vasigioni
@vasigioni Ай бұрын
Hi Andy! I follow you with great love from Romania. I timidly started to make pottery using wild clay from our area. I made a cup, which is ok, then a plate. I reached the polishing phase, everything went very well, but on the plate, on the 5th day, a small crack appeared at the top, at the edge. I used clay and sand 20%. I was going to burn it tomorrow. Do you think I can do something more, or can you tell me where I went wrong?
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Thank you. Could it be that you allowed it to dry unevenly? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jN9klKWn2JfFXYE.htmlsi=JmkaS7-FdbPC8GFf
@vasigioni
@vasigioni Ай бұрын
@@AncientPottery Thank you!
@karladenton5034
@karladenton5034 Ай бұрын
I guessed 12 coils - but thought I'd be WAY off.
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
That's pretty close
@karladenton5034
@karladenton5034 29 күн бұрын
@@AncientPottery I'm on the textile side of things and was thinking how I would do a coil basket that size, so I'm shocked that I guessed that well. Your pot turned out so beautifully!
@glasgavlen
@glasgavlen 26 күн бұрын
I was WAY over, I guessed 16 coils.
@calebwarnock9131
@calebwarnock9131 Ай бұрын
When you are scraping, how much pressure are you using? I think I'm scraping too hard. It's hard to figure out the right pressure.
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Oh it's hard to say isn't it. It kind of depends on how soft the clay is, if it is very soft I will use very little pressure but if it has firmed up a lot I will really get after it.
@user-no8wc9zl3v
@user-no8wc9zl3v 3 күн бұрын
If your ground is damp to wet will that hurt the firing
@user-no8wc9zl3v
@user-no8wc9zl3v 3 күн бұрын
Have you seen where the Orientals water quench hot pottery
@AlanDayley
@AlanDayley Ай бұрын
I guessed 8 coils. Sort of close.
@margaretsmith8066
@margaretsmith8066 Ай бұрын
Nine coils is my guess 🤔
@sheilam4964
@sheilam4964 Ай бұрын
She's a beauty.
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Thanks
@TexRenner
@TexRenner Ай бұрын
My guess was fifteen, not too far off.
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Close
@northernflyer5311
@northernflyer5311 6 күн бұрын
My guess: 10 coils
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery 5 күн бұрын
Close
@J9_j3
@J9_j3 Ай бұрын
i thought it'll be around 60 coils
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Wow, way less. Thanks
@jacobyoung7018
@jacobyoung7018 Ай бұрын
I thought it would be 15 coils
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Not quite that many
@cocoalb_22
@cocoalb_22 29 күн бұрын
Would it be any trouble if I ask that you send me some clay dirt here to Dallas,TX? It's hard to find here.
@margiegandy9189
@margiegandy9189 26 күн бұрын
I live about an hour east of Dallas. My land is full of beautiful clay that I would be happy to share. It is mostly red. All my firings come out black because I haven’t figured that part out yet.
@cocoalb_22
@cocoalb_22 13 күн бұрын
@@margiegandy9189 omg, you must live in east Texas, I need some
@margiegandy9189
@margiegandy9189 13 күн бұрын
@@cocoalb_22 Absolutely! Our little community is called Martins Mill if you want to check out logistics. We have a school, church, and a gas station that serves excellent cheeseburgers, and an interesting array of photos of all of the founding families along the back wall. Close to Canton, the giant Once a month flea market.
@marthastrogen9001
@marthastrogen9001 Ай бұрын
Haha, I guessed 20!
@jillatherton4660
@jillatherton4660 Ай бұрын
😄👍👏
@amyrodgers9887
@amyrodgers9887 Ай бұрын
I thought it would take 17 coils
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Not too far off
@kelleycline8517
@kelleycline8517 3 күн бұрын
I thought 10 to 12 coils
@jbrown1713
@jbrown1713 Ай бұрын
I thought 14
@Amazing_plant_microscop
@Amazing_plant_microscop Ай бұрын
سلام چقدر شما دو برادر به هم شبیه هستید❤
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
There is only one of me
@dezertdrifter
@dezertdrifter Ай бұрын
7 coils.
@Kargoneth
@Kargoneth Ай бұрын
Coils? I am going to guess 25.
@Kargoneth
@Kargoneth Ай бұрын
I greatly overestimated. I thought that it was going to be larger as well. Oh well.
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Over double
@Ahmed_Saadawy
@Ahmed_Saadawy Ай бұрын
10 Edit: Damn so close
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Not bad, better than I did
@user-no8wc9zl3v
@user-no8wc9zl3v 3 күн бұрын
I guessed 20 way off
@edwardjednacz1641
@edwardjednacz1641 Ай бұрын
My guess was 14
@RoosterPootPottery
@RoosterPootPottery Ай бұрын
Guessing 33
@RoosterPootPottery
@RoosterPootPottery Ай бұрын
I hit the 3 twice meant 13
@AncientPottery
@AncientPottery Ай бұрын
Close but not close enough
@randolphfriend8260
@randolphfriend8260 28 күн бұрын
🤍 🖤
@rrmen9708
@rrmen9708 10 күн бұрын
I thought 14
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