Making a Detuned Bass Like Shy FX, Break [Serum, Massive, Massive X, Operator]

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Making a Detuned Bass Like Shy FX, Break [Serum, Massive, Massive X, Operator]

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Tutorial on how to make the detuned sub bass like Shy FX and Break on Serum, Massive, Massive X and Operator, all done in Ableton. Popular bass used in jump-up, roller drum and bass.
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1:01 Serum Oldskool Technique
5:30 Serum Newskool Technique
12:44 Massive Oldskool
16:28 Massive X Newskool
21:13 Operator Oldskool
25:56 Comparison - Which one do you like the most?

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@bloom_dnb 4 жыл бұрын

This is the best DNB synth tutorial channel on KZfaq. PERIOD!

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

thank you that is a highly esteemed comment!

@bloom_dnb 4 жыл бұрын

@@STRANJAH no worries. i remember i first heard your tunes in a set it was that track Future, set me on a different path production wise!

@NickRogers0427 2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree!! (2 years late)

@lefty7876 4 жыл бұрын

Bro I’ve been looking for tutorials like this my entire life. Game changer

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

wicked man!

@wattsofwisdom3636 4 жыл бұрын

For real I had to subscribe 💯

@telekomdj 4 жыл бұрын

THIS!!

@teds2555 3 жыл бұрын

Big ups stranjah

@fatze3978 3 жыл бұрын

Completely man! 👍

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

400 LIKES and I will give away the project and presets for free. Appreciate if you can share the video, it'll help us get there quicker and help my channel grow. Also shouts out to Серг Карпов for commenting about the yellow KTR assign in the bottom right of Massive for Keytracking.

@TurtleMC1993 2 жыл бұрын

Someone get this guy an award or something. This Man's a Dr of electronic music. Potentially the most influential person EVER in dnb for the amount of people he has helped and will continue to help as long as youtube is about for.

@ScramTek 4 ай бұрын

For aspiring DnB producers like us, no other man has been as helpful as this guy right here!

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

WHOA we got there fast! Thanks for helping me get over 400 LIKES, that was amazing! Here is the Ableton Project File and Presets. You NEED the LATEST update of Ableton 10.1.9 to open the project. Likewise, the Serum presets will only work with the latest version so make sure you're all updated. Enjoy deviantaudio.ck.page/3c14b1a025

@simonbell209 4 жыл бұрын

Not sure what you're thanking us for? We should be thanking you for all the great tutorials. Amazing work! Always dug your music too. Cheers bro!

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Your welcome Simon!!

@jayvegamusicpr 4 жыл бұрын

STRANJAH why not make a foldee to open in ableton 9?

@user-yy4uf5jr7e 4 жыл бұрын

I used to like downloading patches but I don't learn unless I do it myself

@mizeyesis 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. You're comprehensive explanations on bass synthesis really are something. Its helping me understand a lot more how sounds are created in low hrtz frequencies more freely.

@Serdy 4 жыл бұрын

Dude! I typically don't take the time to comment on videos, but I just really needed to let you know that the amount of effort you put into your videos is VERY appreciated. You're not just half-assing this stuff. People definitely notice the work you put in.

@diversity333 4 жыл бұрын

dude you are true don - i've spent hours over the years trying to figure some of this stuff out. it's actually simpler than you think and i'm so glad you've shared that with us. ez

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Your welcome, glad to help!

@MonsterDubClub 4 жыл бұрын

The simple yet incredibly effective bass patch we have all been chasing.. Taught with perfection, thanks STRANJAH!

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Great to hear! You are most welcome!

@aurisdnb 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! It's important to note than when you play one sine at +0 and a second sine wave at +2 the effective pitch of your bass sound is now +1. That means that if you're playing any other instruments over it this is going to sound out of tune. To fix this you should play one sine at -1 and the other at +1 to still have the 2 semitone detune but keeping the pitch center on the note you're playing.

@alexrjohnston 4 жыл бұрын

Initially I thought the same but the bass actually descends in pitch slowly via LFO so it probably ends up about right. Edit: just noticed the master pitch LFO is set to bipolar so you are right.

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

You're absolutely right Jos - thank you for the suggestion!

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Yup he's correct, sometimes I overlook this, and have to compensate by play a note down.

@fortknightpredilluvian2008 4 жыл бұрын

wow literally was walking my dog and thought how i wanted a tutorial on this type of sound, i just didnt know what to call it, then i check youtube and this video just came out! youre really on it man lol.

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

That's CRAZY! I've been hearing this happen often, I'm glad the material is landing on to the right people. Thanks for watching and please like/sub and share if you enjoyed it :)

@MNRMNmixes 4 жыл бұрын

Bro I was literally thinking about the same thing a few hours ago and then this video landed on my home feed... i was thinking about the skrillex live stream where he makes a track and he has this sound in it so I was wondering what it was and how to make it.....

@Motekk67 3 жыл бұрын

that's bc'z our phone spying and know what we search for hihi ☺️

@kyechoules8176 4 жыл бұрын

The Bristol sound white noise sub!!!!!

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Nice man! Bristol sound certainly makes sense as a lot of that early jump up by Roni Size and Krust came out of there from what I know.

@wolfgangrecordings 4 жыл бұрын

except it was pioneered in detroit by a house & techno legend, see my comment above :)

@AlMondO93 4 жыл бұрын

A very good example is Dj Die - Play It For Me kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aZuCpbqerLnWhIE.html

@AdamTheAd-vanc3d 4 жыл бұрын

@@AlMondO93 This style is also been forward driven recently mainly by the likes of Bladerunner & Serum. I believe the origins back in the day were from artists like DJ Die around 1996/1997.

@happylarry7533 4 жыл бұрын

@@AlMondO93 bad tune bro

@youth_in_asia 3 жыл бұрын

Your channel is exactly what I needed like 4 years ago. You're doing young British producers a massive favour with videos like these!!!

@STRANJAH 3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad to hear that George, keep at it!

@xNEONNINJA420x 11 ай бұрын

Yo man, thanks for not gatekeeping this kind of info. You seriously help make tracks more fun to work on.

@STRANJAH 11 ай бұрын

No problem you make me feel like the kid who has the coolest toys in the block - except I wanna share it with you all 😄

@deluxenz 4 жыл бұрын

Great video Stranjah! It's a "Wobble Bass" (with noise), some might call it a Jungle Bass too. It's been around for yonks and was originally done on hardware playing two keys. The first Serum and Pigments were the best ones.

@gabrielvrij1516 4 жыл бұрын

bro i just discovered your channel, and just halfway thru this tutorial, i need to scream this: this is the best tutorial ive ever seen!!!!! i swear it is well structured, not too fast so you can follow, not too slow to fuck the pace, well explained, trying different techniques, adding some context with genre history i guess... I bow down to this mighty tutorial, and Im subscribing.

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Gabriel, that is one of the best comments I've ever received. Thank you so much, it encourages me to keep it up!

@gabrielvrij1516 4 жыл бұрын

@@STRANJAH yeah man, please do keep it up its amazing 👌 good luck with the next one 💪

@samm7909 4 жыл бұрын

Mate, I don't comment often but all these vids you're putting out are properly exciting. Been looking for 10+ years for concise tutorials on the UK sound and you're laying it all out clear as fuck. Would be really good to see a tutorial to get a similar sounding drums to special request, stenny, skii mask. Big respect from the UK.

@daniellambert3749 2 жыл бұрын

Dude you're the man for relating this to all these different VST's. Super cool. Hopefully my like counts towards the 400 you were looking for lol

@jerimiahsullivan4874 3 жыл бұрын

A cool thing I learned from Culprate... if you throw white noise on a sound like this and you really want to have it sit in the bass so it sounds like it's part of it, you can throw on autopan on the white noise layer, change the amount to 100%, phase/shape to 0, and set the rate to the same hz as the fundamental of the bass.

@STRANJAH 3 жыл бұрын

That’s a very interesting technique!

@jerimiahsullivan4874 3 жыл бұрын

@@STRANJAH I wasn't sure what I was expecting when I tried it, but I was pleasantly surprised and even shocked at the effect it had.

@Sweep_The_Leg_Johnny 3 жыл бұрын

WooWoo Bass :P BTW @Stranjah, THANK you for these vids. ive always written house and techno, but im branching out. Just posted my first DnB track to Soundcloud, all thanks to you!

@jack.curtis1453 4 жыл бұрын

the pigments sound was so clean! love your stuff man, im a complete beginner but honestly you're videos have helped me learn so much! some more videos based around ableton stock plugins would be amazing

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear that is been of help Jack, keep practicing!

@ASH-ou4cg 4 жыл бұрын

I personally like the true oldskool method, of using the tone generator inside the Akai samplers and simply playing 2 notes side by side, simultaneously. ;)

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Now THAT is true oldskool!! It would be cool if I could access those original Akai sine waves and recreate it in Ableton. Thanks for that little piece of history!

@mechannoyed1076 4 жыл бұрын

i can help you out with a test tone sample...whats your email?

@dougbolt7458 4 жыл бұрын

@@STRANJAH The 950 test sine is easily found online. I use it in my S2K. I'm going to have to play with this on the (hardware) ProOne as well. True Analog FTW!!

@andersingram 4 жыл бұрын

@@dougbolt7458 the s950 is a digital sampler though!

@LeMeAtOm 3 жыл бұрын

Stranjah, i just wanted to thank you for all your videos, so insightful and i've learnt a lot from you so far, keep up the great work! respect

@TheWwhhiizzzz 3 жыл бұрын

Man, I'm just getting back into DnB production after a clost to 10yr hiatus, and so many tricks I forgot about. The f*****ng detune trick, how did I forget!! Thanks so much for this video! SUBSCRIBED

@nemosisproductions6234 4 жыл бұрын

Best bass teacher period. Respec! I met you once at the carleton university radio station in Ottawa. Seriously, these tutorials are the best bass tutorial series I have seen

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks man, and great to be in touch!

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

I remember that time in the show!

@djkeety1 4 жыл бұрын

The white noise Break style insight was fantastic, true science, thanks for the Massive X breakdown, true DNB/Jungle, really appreciate your time sir🇬🇧& knowledge☮️

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Cheers and thank you as always keety!

@vexathebassinjector 4 жыл бұрын

dj keety Send me sum dubs bro! @BringingBackDaSound on insta 👊🏽

@matt123head 4 жыл бұрын

you can add keytracking in massive and operator. for massive its in the osc tab and in operator you use the rate

@michaelries6313 2 жыл бұрын

You "Break" it down so well. All your videos have launched my production game! BIG UP

@Orangek34 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you STRANJAH, keep doing these videos man. Really love what your doing.

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Cheers man means a lot!

@danielsouthey1143 Жыл бұрын

Awesome work. I've been wondering how break achieved this sort of bass in his tracks and now I feel I'm a lot closer to working it out. Hugely appreciated.

@jasonversatile9807 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic tutorial as usual...Still can't believe the stuff you teach is FREE. You the man. Thank you. :)

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Jason, and you are most welcome!

@kea4185 4 жыл бұрын

mate if you keep this up your yt will be huge. A lot of people have been looking for stuff like this for a very long time. Great quality content.

@quarkinder 3 жыл бұрын

Many thanks for showing the process in different synths!

@ASH-ou4cg 4 жыл бұрын

This is your most educational video to date. The extra mile you put in, demonstrating this between all of the most popular synths at this time, means no one is left behind and all your viewers can have a chance to try out, creating this iconic sound. Thanks so much for sharing, it really means a lot to us all.

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Great to know the hard work is being appreciated, thank you Andrew!

@MrDisrupta 4 жыл бұрын

I agree, showing the same patch in several synths was top

@djkeety1 4 жыл бұрын

Andrew Henderson You summed up my feelings with this lovely post🌻

@FlorianBoo 2 жыл бұрын

Fire!! You just made me grab Serum.

@CyanicSounds Жыл бұрын

My man! Thank you for being so speaking so descriptively, I listened to this while doing chores around the house - you made it very easy to visualize! Looking forward to checking out your other vids!

@ACABSTUDIOS Жыл бұрын

This sounds dope as soon as you add the white noise and distort it

@Yousef-sc2kk 3 жыл бұрын

i learned more about serum from this video than the 100000 previously watched from other videos. youre amazing

@_budoudoo4989 3 жыл бұрын

There is a key track in classic Massive. The small section with yellow arrows above miniature keybord. You can assign Velocity, Key Track etc to any parameters in Massive.

@ig88andribs 4 жыл бұрын

Top vid. Nice one! Massive does have Key Tracking. Yellow box marked 'KT' in the Macro Control area.

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info! Got it!

@liteningstrike12 3 жыл бұрын

I don't have any of these plugins and I don't make DnB but this tutorial has revolutionized my sound design in any synth

@randompianist8359 4 жыл бұрын

this is sick more jungle dnb basses please

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

absolutely!

@Motekk67 3 жыл бұрын

awesome that you explained the key tracking with the increase in pitch... i saw this once on a video and forgot how that was and wich video... this is used on some Reese basses too... thank you now i know how this works ☺️👍

@SG-qk7fh 4 жыл бұрын

Tutorials are second to none keep it up bro

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

S G thank you so much!

@yrussq 4 жыл бұрын

Pigments hands down! It sounded the least shallow sound-wise and the pattern was good and was the only that was perfectly in sync with a beat. Too much noise, too little mids/bass on others. Although some wobble patterns had cool ideas. Second place is Serum Newschool. Well another example where pattern is more important than a sound itself. The fine tuning are usually in cents so 100 is basically 1 semitone, afair. Thanks for the comparison in the end! Great stuff, man!

@nathanchristie7486 4 жыл бұрын

The sound out of pigments was proper!

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

nathan christie yes I agree! Something about it’s sound is so crisp!

@tymantis 3 жыл бұрын

@@STRANJAH Why didn't you show how to create the sound with Pigments?

@saelbeltrantorres9917 4 жыл бұрын

Appreciate a channel like this! Only for heads that know the sounds used in bass music.

@TheColdHarshTruth 11 ай бұрын

They all sounded great! Operator was my favourite!

@elijahjflowers 3 жыл бұрын

The masses don't get it yet. But I do. Thanks for making videos Stranjah!

@mememaster1708 4 жыл бұрын

id personally detune one oscillator +1 semitone and the other one -1 semitone to try and keep them sounding more in key with the rest of your track

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Yes have updated the presets and included a note for everyone, thank you for the suggestion.

@bigstoneycha2098 3 жыл бұрын

STRANJAH where do we get the presets?

@Sinsin20tre 2 жыл бұрын

im sure they did already..but..may the music gods bless you , amazing tutorials

@thelights789 4 жыл бұрын

Love your love for the culture!

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

thank you!

@alejandrogr9516 4 жыл бұрын

As always, this is a supreme master class. I'm trying to recreate the old school way with pigments. I've playing with the different distorsion/saturation/wavefolder effects and its very interesting.

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! What are your thoughts about the results from those fx in Pigments?

@alejandrogr9516 4 жыл бұрын

@@STRANJAH You can achieve a detuned growly bass, or a wobbly growly. But I recommend that not use the three effects at the same time, or use them with low rates.

@stewpid52 4 жыл бұрын

just got back into producing and these videos are inspiring af! big up ya self Stranjah

@tonyreno2727 4 жыл бұрын

I like that you did this with all those plugins :) The wavetable and pigments ones sounded best to me :D Thank you!

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them! I agree about Pigments. And they all have different nuances depending on your taste!

@willdahbe 3 жыл бұрын

lol at the end comparison when analog popped up it sounded like fat fly trying to stay airborne I loved every bit of it!

@willdahbe 3 жыл бұрын

you know the ones, where you smack them and they just bounce off then call your mom a bitch... XD

@FatherFunk 4 жыл бұрын

Great tutorial man. Really well articulated. Will be checking out more of your tutorials.

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

@ashleygillespie9883 4 жыл бұрын

Love it when stock plugins hold their own ! quality channel bro :)

@Paradroxialllll 4 жыл бұрын

Wicked video! I got alot of both the serum and operator ones, I like how you explain things very clear, I find other youtubers just rush through it and I end up missing things! Liked and subbed 👍

@cccccccc94 4 жыл бұрын

Been watching your videos for a couple weeks now and they have been super helpful. I'd love to see a tutorial on how to make sounds like Bou, in serum. Thanks for the awesome videos as usual.

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Have done a couple Bou-type sounds like the Foghorn, have you seen those? Will be working out more.

@cccccccc94 4 жыл бұрын

STRANJAH I’ve watched them all, if you get the time look at songs by Bou such as breathe and envy

@jordanpeakofficial 4 жыл бұрын

Serious bass face moment at 4:36 🔥

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

hahaha glad you like that!

@myworx1 3 жыл бұрын

Yes Stranjah Thanks again, Awesome content.

@deanwild7641 4 жыл бұрын

Big ups on another great video dude Thanks for using the original massive aswell, salute 👊🏻

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Any time!

@Dj.slothy 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve always wanted to learn to make this bass

@Dj.slothy 4 жыл бұрын

But I don’t have ableton I use Cubase

@Ad-ft1iz 4 жыл бұрын

Quality content mate

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Cheers!

@JIBLET 4 жыл бұрын

awesome tutorial ! keep them coming please !

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Will do thank you!

@andynorman5675 4 жыл бұрын

Just got hold of pigments and it’s a powerhouse 🔊🔊🔊 quality channel dude, giving me loads of production ideas 🔥🔥🔥

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Glad you're loving pigments, such a beautiful sounding synth!

@mista-paul 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent tutorial, thank you.

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Welcome!

@hazmatproduction4562 4 жыл бұрын

Great tutorial. I heard from a good source that Break uses the noise from a tape emulation plugin run through Airwindows density to get that noise layer.

@CykotiK23 3 жыл бұрын

amazing! thanks!

@marcmeup1 4 жыл бұрын

Wicked mate! Classic Bristol style bass - Krust, Die et al...especially the kind on their Dope Dragon offshoot label. 10/10

@alexrjohnston 4 жыл бұрын

This is a reese bass : ) keep em coming dude!

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Will do!

@MovingTargetOne 4 жыл бұрын

Noice. ps. been really digging Danger Chamber recently, and seen your name on a Danger Chamber selection, props!

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

ha nice man! Cool that you noticed me there. They put some proper jungle.

@no_iris9868 4 жыл бұрын

Dope, I thought the first one sounded best. You're obviously a great sound designer.. All were spot on to my ear. Sub 👍

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Dan means a lot!

@bd99 4 жыл бұрын

Great tutorial, thanks! I'm using Ableton Studio trial and managed to get a newskool version working with Wavetable for sine and Operator for noise, along with Shaper to oscillate both of them and Expression Control for key mapping and to re-trigger the LFO. (Shaper and Expression Control are Max for Live devices included in Suite)

@bd99 4 жыл бұрын

Actually can do it even easier in Wavetable - use the second Ocsillator to generate the noise. I used the Basics - White Noise table with Fm effect amount set to 100%

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

That's very cool Baz!!

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

So cool thanks for sharing that technique

@grantc8353 3 жыл бұрын

Dat Vobbble!

@koppanydodony8769 4 жыл бұрын

Bro I love the content you share. Al my dream was to bass just a lilbit like Break. Thanks so much!

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

haha glad I could make your dream come true!

@otisjacksonjunior9795 4 жыл бұрын

My fav type of bass tone. Sick.

@empiricalsounds9957 4 жыл бұрын

Unbelievable stuff man your tutorials are too sick!

@dexteribbenz8513 4 жыл бұрын

Again my dude, such great content. Thanks again :)

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy it! Your welcome!

@kamb3800 3 жыл бұрын

24:38 when Pass, the girl you like walks past...

@rivella99 2 жыл бұрын

9:20 What would be cool is to get an automatic decrease of the LFO 1 rate (i.e. what is done too if a lower key is played on the keyboard) when Master Tune is decreased by LFO 2. This can be done by automating the LFO 1 rate with a decreasing LFO 3.

@Golokamusic 2 жыл бұрын

Love your tutorials

@telekomdj 4 жыл бұрын

Bro!! 🔥🔥 I always knew that technique for the basic wobble but never how to make it filthy!! Cannot wait to jump in studio and try this 😎😎 Big up 👊🏻👊🏻🙏🏻

@phillywonkz1297 4 жыл бұрын

sick again bro!!

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

@LittaDNB 4 жыл бұрын

Brilliant video! Cheers 👍

@OfficialDava 4 жыл бұрын

you would call that a reese bass :) nice vid!

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Respects!

@deluxenz 4 жыл бұрын

That is not a Reese bass man

@BibleStorm 4 жыл бұрын

A reese is 3 saw waves slightly detuned

@SlavaAnimado 2 жыл бұрын

we love this sound

@MagneticBrain98 4 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of being back in Bristol. thanks for the tutorial!

@STRANJAH 4 жыл бұрын

Visited Bristol once a few years ago, absolutely love the city. So chill.

@viscid09 Жыл бұрын

This is massive 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻🔥

@gregmason9182 Жыл бұрын

I love your video's man. I was wondering if you could make a video on how to make the bass in Phibes track Bassdrop?

@ryansmith2212 4 жыл бұрын

awesome info again mate, these videos really are top. appreciate what your doing

@GuySteffellFlint 2 жыл бұрын

Great vid! A few tracks below have this sorta bass in at various points - some have quite big low pass filters on though. Bladerunner - Rolling Fire Aries - Bust Them Up - Gray Remix Technimatic - Bristol - Break Remix Gray - Rubadub Ben Snow - Set Me Free (has one of these basses only half a bar long really, but works well in its' context)! Check out the bass in Bladerunner - Rolling Fire especially. This type of bass sound is really coming through in the Bristol DnB and rave scene in the UK.