Last year we demonstrated repairing a worn lead screw - this time we're going to take a different approach: putting our new follow rest to use to help us build an entirely new one.
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@cdrive575718 күн бұрын
Techograhy! Many are accomplished machinists. Conveying those skills to the viewer requires another level of skill . You are something special because the Videograpy in this video is exceptional! Wakodahatchee Chris
@VanoverMachineAndRepair18 күн бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@theodoreshasta78463 ай бұрын
“Overkill” should be your middle name! Nicely done, and I really enjoyed watching you work. Thank you!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@rvarsigfusson61633 ай бұрын
Once you make it wrong its too late......
@Sapper21b103 ай бұрын
There is no such thing as overkill. Nobody complained when something was super dead. However, they definitely complain if it's not dead enough. They generally let their displeasure be heard with screams and dying. Just sayin.
@carrollprice12133 ай бұрын
When making undercuts for threading, the shaft will be stronger if you leave a radius in the corners by using a round-nose grooving tool instead of a cut-off tool.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Yes you are correct. with the force on these guys it is fairly unlikely the shaft will break in general. It is more likely to wear then snap. In theory you are correct.
@SPDLTD3 ай бұрын
You do a fantastic job with these long form project videos. They are great, thanks for taking the time to make them for everyone!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@ryebis3 ай бұрын
Well done, end result looks good. Rolled lead screws are generally stronger due to strength hardening but in general are less accurate depending on the manufacturer tolerances. Edit: and forgot to mention, you should be using flood coolant or more thread cutting oil.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Don’t have flood on it. I limited oil for video sake
@campbellmorrison85403 ай бұрын
Ive never cut an acme thread, really enjoyed watching that
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Thank you. They are fun
@warbirdwf3 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this video with you challenging yourself to see how accurate you could be. It's rare that we don't make a flaw while making a complicated part. It speaks to your confidence that you pointed it out for all to see. Nice job making that part and documenting it.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Yeah mistakes are inevitable. Glad you enjoyed it
@Freetheworldnow3 ай бұрын
Hi Kyle, Thanks for sharing yet another great video. Always nice to follow you and your work on KZfaq. If I may, I suggest you use lathe files to do your edge deburring and chamfering. Also when cutting your threads, if there is the slightest amount of burr, it will score badly and immediately your brass points on the steady rest. This job you did is quite challenging and I hope that once you get the nut done, it will be perfect the hole way on the screw. As for the key way, I would probably used the climbing method as it would put the cutting force on the jack, witch is the reason for using one. Otherwise you get a lifting force and increase tool and part vibration/deviation. You did well to reduce the RPM on the acme thread cutting. Make sure you lubricate intensively as you cut such thread. Tool pressure is immense, as well as contact area. I endorse cutting oil!! God Bless.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Thanks
@robertmartin16402 ай бұрын
I think you should do as I did and add a drip oiler to your rest. It's one less thing to worry about, and it's simple in construction.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair2 ай бұрын
Maybe good idea
@stevecrawford12383 ай бұрын
Love the follow rest, that’s a great set up. I learn something new every video you make.
@stevecrawford12383 ай бұрын
Does the overall length not matter?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you! Steve
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
It’s the same it looks shorter due to camera angle
@ronmurphy98193 ай бұрын
I think everyone has said it for me! Thanks
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Yep
@roylucas10273 ай бұрын
Great video. I enjoyed watching the thread cutting process. I’ve only done a few threads and fought with each of them. However, there is hope as they seem to be getting better. Thanks for all the good effort and camera work.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@Ideasite3 ай бұрын
This was great to watch. Nice work!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@tomeyssen96743 ай бұрын
Nice job. Follow rest was awesome!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@orville6973 ай бұрын
you should get a mist lubricator lot easier than a can of oil. Kool Mist 60M12 PORTaMIST Unit, Magnetic Nozzle Positioner, 12" Flexline. topper machine uses it a lot in his videos
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
I got one oil works better on certain occasions
@gordonfitzsimmons20183 ай бұрын
Great video, enjoyed watching the process. Cheers
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Thanks
@mauriziograndi17502 ай бұрын
You are brilliant and proud of your work. All of the Best for your future projects. Cheers.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair2 ай бұрын
Thank you
@ragnarironspear17913 ай бұрын
Beautiful work 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇬🇧
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@ypaulbrown3 ай бұрын
wonderful work, thank you for sharing, Paul in Florida
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Our pleasure!
@pjofurey62393 ай бұрын
Nice work as ever and logical, always funny to see folks still working to banana dims .your fixture table ranks alongside Stonehenge for the “durable” status.love it
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Appreciate it thanks
@flyiniowan962320 күн бұрын
Just recently turned a new x axis leadscrew for my knee mill. My lathe is almost 100 years old, it came with the frames for the follow and steady rests but no fingers. I used soft window weight gray cast iron for the fingers in the follow rest and it seems to do well in the wear department at least enough to get me through most of the process without having to adjust to account for wear. I ended up using 1045 tg&p for my screw, i wanted to used a piece of 1144 tg&p but i ordered a 1.250" round bar hoping to not have to do a bunch of turning but the bar was bent:( The 1045 yielded a less than desirable finish but it works. Nice job on your screw, looks good!!!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair20 күн бұрын
Sounds fun. Thanks
@carlkulyk3662 ай бұрын
You do nice work
@VanoverMachineAndRepair2 ай бұрын
Thank you
@ypaulbrown3 ай бұрын
love your narration .......
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Thanks paul
@un-factory3 ай бұрын
Your processing skills are truly amazing.🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😊😊😊😊😊
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@user-vn6hi2bi3g3 ай бұрын
It is for you so only underkill applies, Nice work you had more guts than me during chatter segments. Ray Stormont
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Appreciate it Ray
@hilltopmachineworks21313 ай бұрын
Well done. 👍
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Thank you! 👍
@johnkelly72643 ай бұрын
Great explanation and detail. Subbed here.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@wmweekendwarrior11663 ай бұрын
Good stuff
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Thanks
@MyLilMule3 ай бұрын
Turned out great. I think your cross slide screw is as long as the bed on my South Bend. LOL!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
lol maybe so
@rogeronslow14983 ай бұрын
Metric is a standard thread pitch worldwide, just not in Murica.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
I know lol
@PundhyLuzino2 ай бұрын
Saya suka ini
@VanoverMachineAndRepair2 ай бұрын
Thank you
@mattkavanagh15043 ай бұрын
A follow rest? Is that how its referred to in the US? In the UK we call it a travelling steady.Great videos by the way.🤙
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Ok cool good to know
@ellieprice33963 ай бұрын
Yes, it "follows" the tool. Traveling steady works too.
@terrymoorecnc25003 ай бұрын
Does that Pacemaker have thread reversing on the Apron? Most of the ones that I operated in the Navy Yards did. That's a handy feature to have if you do a lot of threading. No need for using the thread chasing dial, just engage and reverse. The lathes that had it also had stops.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Yes it does I should use it more often
@scottjones72793 ай бұрын
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair😊
@joewhitney40973 ай бұрын
Great video, enjoyed watching your process and attention to detail along with your narrative. Your follow rest worked great. Q. You probably mentioned or it maybe an optical illusion but the shafts side by side appeared to show the new on much shorter than the original, please explain. Thanks for sharing.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Yeah I looked again at the shot it does look shorter, it’s not though wide angle lense for ya
@user-fy2tm2jg6c3 ай бұрын
As you tighten the follow rest between passes, how do you know (or verify) that you are not forcing the shaft out of alignment?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
It is a feel more than anything
@user-fy2tm2jg6c3 ай бұрын
@@VanoverMachineAndRepairit’s interesting. I can’t really think of a good way to put an indicator on the acme thread. I’m sure someone has figured this out.
@user-fy2tm2jg6c2 ай бұрын
@@ptv1250great idea, thanks!
@parnuzutech3 ай бұрын
Listen A new cross feed screw
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Yeah
@1972verrincheАй бұрын
el polvo de esmeril malogra, la bancada del torno, esta debe de protegerse bastante
@VanoverMachineAndRepairАй бұрын
Agreed
@bschwand3 ай бұрын
Why not use some ball bearings on the follow rest instead of the rubbing brass ? Is that done ? Pros/cons ?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Bearings are good for steady rests but but good on follow rests since the bearing traverses the part. Especially on low tpi threads a bearing could get caught between threads
@bschwand3 ай бұрын
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair ok so the brass does not get caught because of it's extra width. So, use a wider bearing ? I am just wondering why use a part that rubs and wears when a rolling part is possible.
@ellieprice33963 ай бұрын
With rollers there's a greater chance of getting a chip caught in the rollers than with solid brass contacts. Roller type steady rests are usually further away from the cutting tool and the rollers can be shielded from chips if necessary. @@bschwand
@4GibMe3 ай бұрын
I think the answer you are looking for is... Rolling bearings, no matter what the size, are made with hardened materials. Which in turn, can damage anything softer. But, they are lower maintenance. if you watch CEE videos, you can see him using a Steady Rest with Roller Bearings. When he's done, one can see impressions in the work piece, and I'm not talking about the corrective cuts he makes for the Steady. The impressions are inside of those. Being construction equipment, not a big concern. Time is money, and he has customers to keep happy. Bearing Brass is softer them 90% of what you are going to turn, so, no damage to you work. But, in turn, you have to sacrifice some Bearing Brass. Higher maintenance. Both have there pros and cons. It's more about your needs.
@scottpageusmc3 ай бұрын
"Honey!!! It's happening!!!"
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Lol
@jackdelancey2483 ай бұрын
How come it is shorter?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
It’s an illusion
@madmodder1233 ай бұрын
Is it shorter? or just looks shorter?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Same length
@ericsills52903 ай бұрын
I don't believe they're the same. I wanna see then close together. They totally look like different lengths.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair2 ай бұрын
@@ericsills5290 ok
@ericsills52903 ай бұрын
Why is it shorter than the original?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Nope it’s an illusion
@chuckbeckley78943 ай бұрын
What material did you make that screw out of?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Stress proof
@chuckbeckley78943 ай бұрын
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair Okay I understand that What type of stress proof What type of material was it? Was a tool still, 12L14, 4140?
@ellieprice33963 ай бұрын
1144 stress-proof. @@chuckbeckley7894
@ryanpeterson52393 ай бұрын
I believe 1144 is what people usually mean by stressproof@@chuckbeckley7894
@carlhitchon10093 ай бұрын
@@chuckbeckley7894 I believe it was 1144 which is generally called "stressproof" because it's been heat-treated to relax stress. Neither 12L14 not 4140 are called stressproof.
@Qusin1113 ай бұрын
nice work but 1144 will not last but may be better than what was in there.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Agreed
@alexlukac88523 ай бұрын
Congratulation you building your own flow rest, NOTE with tree point tach the material. Do you have a good Lathe the casting bed has two prismatic guide . Most CHINESSE follow rest became ,with only two points MADE CHEAP $$$, WILL no good for do this type of work, only the Machinist decide the tools ,not the plant Manager. .Bay the way very good are you threading the proper way, no to many Lathe operator no this old school ,MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN . Bay from ARGENTINA - CANADA.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@gertkristensen64512 ай бұрын
you should learn a bit about feed and speed, it disappeared as much from the saw blade as the shaft .. by the way, the vibrations came from too little chip depth, the shaft is meant to be pressed up against the support otherwise it will vibrate + you can drive 5 times faster in revolutions
@VanoverMachineAndRepair2 ай бұрын
👍
@scottjones72793 ай бұрын
By no means am I a machinist but could you not put a pair of shoes on the follower rest for better support on the threads
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Yeah but clearance can be an issue with a larger contact area
@SUNEELKANDA2 ай бұрын
1144 steel
@VanoverMachineAndRepair2 ай бұрын
Yep
@pand0ras3 ай бұрын
1 minute in: we have standard, and we have metric, so we make a standard thread.... METRIC IS THE STANDARD!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
lol I don’t have a machine that can cut metric that is up and running so every will be standard until I can do metric.
@JohnChuprun2 ай бұрын
This Karen got triggered hard on that one :)
@DanelonNicolas3 ай бұрын
around the minute 21 what was that "chatter" ?? why only in that part? is this some material composition thing? please don't do anything off camera 😢 that sucks haha good job man! r
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Not sure maybe a dip in the diameter caused by wear in lathe making the follow rest have to much gap? Not sure
@DanelonNicolas3 ай бұрын
@@ptv1250 thanks my dude. don't think the chip trapped cuz happened more than one time but the other things you said sounds really possible. thanks again
Convert metric to standard - only Americans can relate 😅
@VanoverMachineAndRepair17 күн бұрын
Agreed
@hosseinhayati98203 ай бұрын
This is how I did for similar project: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a7aRgbeDms6XZ4k.html
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Very nice
@janlundquist31323 ай бұрын
i´ll hope you dont make the screw in the same machine that you gonna use it on.🙂
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
👍
@mrsock33803 ай бұрын
You lost me when you said you need a straight bit of material to use a travelling steady, you don't, all you do is have the steady following the cut, not leading it......
@VanoverMachineAndRepair3 ай бұрын
Sure
@mrsock33803 ай бұрын
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair too stupid to understand so you write a stupid reply, sounds about right from what I saw in your vid.