Making A New Tailstock Quill . Part 2 . Precision compound slide setting .

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Max Grant ,The Swan Valley Machine Shop.

Max Grant ,The Swan Valley Machine Shop.

2 жыл бұрын

We start the machining process on a new tail stock quill .
How to set the compound slide on the lathe to a precise angle to bore an MT 2 taper .
New Channel Stickers From Harold at ARW over in Texas .

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@IBWatchinUrVids
@IBWatchinUrVids 2 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of machining content I'm looking for. Not beginner, but not Mazak machine work.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks .
@joell439
@joell439 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Master Tutorial on setting the compound for a Morris taper. We really appreciate the tips like accounting for a starting taper in the bar 👍👍😎👍👍. Looking forward to Part 3. Cheers Mate
@01thomasss
@01thomasss 2 жыл бұрын
Ît's Morse taper (not Morris)
@joell439
@joell439 2 жыл бұрын
@@01thomasss LOL …. Damn autocorrect 😂🤣
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
@@joell439 Cheers Joel . Stephen . A. Morse in the mid 1800's !
@dannywilsher4165
@dannywilsher4165 2 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy and like the learning experience here Mr. Max. ARW Harold has an awesome thing going with the live stream every Sunday, he's a good man!!!!!
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you about Harold there Mate . Thanks for looking in !
@TheKnacklersWorkshop
@TheKnacklersWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Max, Good video... I enjoy watching and learning how you do different processes... thank you. Take care. Paul,,
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul .
@donmittlestaedt1117
@donmittlestaedt1117 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Max.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Don .
@TedRoza
@TedRoza 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Max .. Great Friday, had Dinner, Beer & watched the Master Craftsman at work, couldn't envisage a few Microns out ... lol.. Very Good Work & Video.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ted .
@tinker5349
@tinker5349 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, interesting video thanks for sharing, ook forward to the next episode.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers .
@fishermanyt8187
@fishermanyt8187 2 жыл бұрын
Yet another technique added to the Arsenal, thanks Max. Enjoyable and informative as always. Hope you enjoyed those few days of sunshine, back to raining again.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks . Yes it has been a good change from the rain , even got a bit done on the new shop . Cheers .
@OldIronMachineWorks
@OldIronMachineWorks 2 жыл бұрын
Max, always enjoy watching your set ups. When I set up to cut something Morse taper I guess I cheat a little, I put something that already has the correct taper between centers and run my indicator across it. Machine the taper and finish it off with a tapered finish ream. I guess I should take the time to learn how to do it the right way :) Thanks for sharing Max, Gary
@RalfyCustoms
@RalfyCustoms 2 жыл бұрын
Gary 👍
@MrAeglaeca
@MrAeglaeca 2 жыл бұрын
The right way is the way that gets a good result.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Gary . I only have that one roughing reamer , so not sure how the finish would have come out if i had used it , esp not having the finish reamer to back it up . Cheers .
@TheAyrCaveShop
@TheAyrCaveShop 2 жыл бұрын
@@swanvalleymachineshop Max if you lived closer I have a brand new MT2 you could barrow….
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheAyrCaveShop I might have to make one one day , from a knackered 3/4 reamer !
@jdmccorful
@jdmccorful 2 жыл бұрын
Throughly enjoy your sessions. Thanks for the look.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks John .
@alasdairhamilton1574
@alasdairhamilton1574 2 жыл бұрын
8:47 so that’s where Mr Chrispin night shirt went😂👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Lol ! Cheers .
@kw5kw
@kw5kw 2 жыл бұрын
I recently found your channel and you are a great resource. I have a wood lathe that I've used off and on over the years but, I have never used a metal lathe for anything but brake jobs on cars and trucks. This past week I ordered a 10x22 Grizzly (G0602Z) and looking forward to receiving it. I look forward to gaining some experience with you by my side! Thanks,
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Russell . Cheers .
@willemvantsant5105
@willemvantsant5105 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Max, great idea centering the dial indicator stylus using light weight ruler. I have a light weight Chesterton promo 6" ruler given to me by a Chesterton packing salesman, have a use for it now. Made a new quill for my lathe recently out of 4140, holding up OK.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mate .
@JourneymanRandy
@JourneymanRandy 2 жыл бұрын
Good tips as always Max. Take care
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Randy . Cheers .
@gregkernick4154
@gregkernick4154 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video max I just love your work and old school knowledge take care buddy
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Greg .
@MattysWorkshop
@MattysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Gday Max, certainly did pick up some great tips, when I made the floating reamer holder I set the compound the same way, Nigel from Go Create Hobby Machineshop showed how to do this and it was spot on, bit of fiddling to set up but super accurate, the threading/boring bar you with interchangeable ends I’ve never seen before and great idea, thanks for another great video mate, Cheers
@RalfyCustoms
@RalfyCustoms 2 жыл бұрын
G'day Matty, I seem to be following you aroung youtube tonight mate 👍
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Matty .
@TrPrecisionMachining
@TrPrecisionMachining 2 жыл бұрын
good video max
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks .
@kentuckytrapper780
@kentuckytrapper780 2 жыл бұрын
Great video max,keep'um coming.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks .
@gregwmanning
@gregwmanning 2 жыл бұрын
That was pretty good
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers .
@Just1GuyMetalworks
@Just1GuyMetalworks 2 жыл бұрын
Well, you certainly make that look more easy to dial in than I do 🤣. You mentioned taper in you part potentially buggering up your part, you may have just shed some light on why my last batch of mt3 tapers turned out not so great 😏. Once again, your knowledge is much appreciated mate! Cheers! 😊
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Clock up on the chuck . You still have to do the same check as one of my chucks has a .001'' taper when i do it .
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 2 жыл бұрын
This is shaping up to be a really cool project. I found you taper setting approach quite informative. Max, thanks for sharing your knowledge as always.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rob . That was your old Starrett steel rule !
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 2 жыл бұрын
@@swanvalleymachineshop I'm glad it found a good home.
@barrygerbracht5077
@barrygerbracht5077 2 жыл бұрын
Just what I needed. I have the solid carbide boring bar on the way and already have the finishing reamer. Now if the darned motor for my lathe would show up I can get making the tailstock quill and main spindle for the wood lathe I'm building. I'm making the quill and main spindle from 4140 prehardened material. Not sure how the reamer will like it, so this setup was very timely. Thanks.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
You will need that reamer working with pre hard . Cheers .
@camatbattler2233
@camatbattler2233 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work Max and well explained. Small MT's can be a pain to do and even when you think you've got it right with the setup, the bluing shows a different story which is always due to tool deflection. Good to have a plan B up your sleeve with the reamer. Cam
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks . Yes the small ones can go pear shaped very easy . Cheers .
@RalfyCustoms
@RalfyCustoms 2 жыл бұрын
G'day Max, been looking forward to this Great stuff and always an inspiration my mate, thanks for sharing 👍 Hope all's well and looking at the steam off the coolant, Keep warm buddy
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
All good over here Mate . Cheers .
@howder1951
@howder1951 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work Max, I always enjoy your descriptions and methodology, too bad about ARW livestreaming, it would be nice to have you there. Anyhow, enjoyed the vid , congrats on the subs and cheers mate!
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks .
@johnbigg240
@johnbigg240 2 жыл бұрын
Luv ya work Max
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks John .
@patrickbeaumier8616
@patrickbeaumier8616 2 жыл бұрын
I have to make a new quill for my tail stock. Somebody tried to repair it and bored it out too big. Not enough engagement for the MT2. Thanks for sharing, this series will be a great help. 👍👍👍😃
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks .
@chrisstephens6673
@chrisstephens6673 2 жыл бұрын
If by bored out too big means the taper bottoms before the taper, shorten the end of the quill a bit, then the tsper can seat. In most cases the loss of length will not be noticed.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Like Chris mentioned , the loss of length is usually no big deal , unless you have a slotted quill to take a drive / ejection tang .You might get away with drilling the minor dia deeper .
@patrickbeaumier8616
@patrickbeaumier8616 2 жыл бұрын
Will check that out. Thanks.
@chrisstephens6673
@chrisstephens6673 2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickbeaumier8616 if you were planning on making a new one anyway, you have nothing to lose by trying.
@jaygee9249
@jaygee9249 Жыл бұрын
Hey Max, is that the lathe feed rattling? Sound like my pacific lathe.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Жыл бұрын
Just the change gears clanging ! I have just tried motorcycle chain lube on them to see if it makes any difference .
@MrValhem265
@MrValhem265 2 жыл бұрын
Noice Max, nearly 5gees in subs cheers.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Robbie . Yes it clicked over last night !
@MrValhem265
@MrValhem265 2 жыл бұрын
@@swanvalleymachineshop Cheers mate well done
@hilltopmachineworks2131
@hilltopmachineworks2131 2 жыл бұрын
I see you hit 5k there on the subs congrats.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Finally made it there Tom . Cheers .
@eyuptony
@eyuptony 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Max, love your old school shop floor technical term of inferior quality material, then the pull the rag through method that I also know as to clear the shit out lol. Enjoyed watching you using your feel to read the micrometer. Your lathe is too much of a metric and imperial hoch poch for my brain to decipher. Enjoyed, brill. Tony
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony . Time soon for a DRO for that machine !
@chrisstephens6673
@chrisstephens6673 2 жыл бұрын
Another masterclass. I guess you have already finished the quill but if not it might make life eadier to know that some wood lathe quills have a bromze insert for the thread. As the thrust it sees is only in one direction a press fit should be adequate. I would find an inserted thread is easier to cut if you dont have the right tap..
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris . They have thrust in the other direction as well when ejecting the tool . I looked at the quill in my Southbend & that is cut straight into the steel . My other lathe has a bronze nut . Either way will work well . No taps for this one , LH BSW ! Cheers .
@chrisstephens6673
@chrisstephens6673 2 жыл бұрын
@@swanvalleymachineshop is this one self ejecting, a lot of wood lathes dont have that feature as the tailstock is designed to have an auger go through it for long hole boring.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisstephens6673 Do they , i have not had much to do with wood lathes . The customer supplied a revolving centre that had a hole through it , that would have damaged the end of the solid male threaded section when ejecting . I just made up a blanking button to rectify that . Do they just tap a rod through the hollow type you mention to remove the tool ?
@chrisstephens6673
@chrisstephens6673 2 жыл бұрын
@@swanvalleymachineshop in a lot of cases yes.i used to have a bar with a wooden knob on the other end to knock out the rotating centre. You can get get rotating centres that have a hole all the way through and different cones and ring centres to hold the wood.
@troyam6607
@troyam6607 2 жыл бұрын
H&F have a great Taiwanese mt3 live centre and live centre kit for 210 each, outside doesn't turn neither. Brucie runs them and so do i
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
They did not have stock of MT 3 at the time . They do an Australian made one , the same price as a Royal .
@troyam6607
@troyam6607 2 жыл бұрын
@@swanvalleymachineshop yeah massively priced! better to make your own
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
@@troyam6607 Future project !
@jonsworkshop
@jonsworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Max, your headstock is holding good alignment following your reset! EN 5 is horrible stuff, fine on a CNC but awful on manuals! Enjoying the tailstock project mate. Cheers, Jon
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks . Yes the manual machines do not have the RPM ' s . If you could turn on a G96 or G97 type of code it would be great . I was looking at a Harrison Alpha , that would suit me . A bit like a manual / cnc . Still has a lot of manual functions like tool changing , tailstock etc .
@ianbertenshaw4350
@ianbertenshaw4350 2 жыл бұрын
Ripper video Max! Stopping that boring bar from chattering will be paramount in the next video ! BTW - Without delving too deeply into the abyss of metallurgy or the pros and cons of what steel to use for each specific purpose - What would you recommend for a home hobby workshop in regards to some basic stock of steel to have laying around ? I was thinking something like 1020 , 1045 ,1214 and some 4140 would cover most stuff without delving into hardening - what do you think ?
@petermurphy3354
@petermurphy3354 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian, where abouts are you, I have some nice Austrian pre hardened steel that turns nice on my little 1985 Taiwanese 200 x 450mm lathe. I too am a home hobbyist. Cheers Peter
@ianbertenshaw4350
@ianbertenshaw4350 2 жыл бұрын
@@petermurphy3354 Hi Peter, I'm in Sydney Australia and that is why i asked Max about the steel types as he is also in Australia and he knows the local designation for the material. Your machine is a good unit , far better than Chinese made .
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian . It all depends on what you are mostly doing . 12L14 , easy to turn with a good finish but non weldable , M1020 if you need to weld it & 4140 is good enough for tool holders and higher strength parts etc & it can be hardened to an extent with basic methods . Most of what i use is mostly unknown from the scrap bin . Critical & paying jobs i use new steel that i know what it is . Best practice also is to letter stamp the end of the stock for I.D purposes . Interlloy has a good site for steel types & Voestalpine is where i usually get my new steel from . Cheers .
@petermurphy3354
@petermurphy3354 2 жыл бұрын
@@ianbertenshaw4350 Hi Ian, I am in Melbourne, but postage on steel can be a bit pricey. The Austrian steel I have is from Voestalpine. I purchased it from an injection mould & punch maker that was retiring. M245 turns easily with a very nice finish on a small lathe. Cheers Peter
@ianbertenshaw4350
@ianbertenshaw4350 2 жыл бұрын
@@swanvalleymachineshop Thanks Max! I think we have all been a victim of the scrap bin at one time or another ! A mate at work kept bringing me some lengths of steel round bar he was getting out of the scrap bin at some place , dunno what it is but it machine like lead , is as weak as piss and getting any sort of finish on it is near impossible. I had a look at the places you mentioned and they have some great reference material on those websites. I have a pile of 4140 but need some stuff that is smaller than 50 mm dia for making spacers and bits for model steam engines so I think 1020 will do fine .
@TheAyrCaveShop
@TheAyrCaveShop 2 жыл бұрын
Max, excellent tips and details. I need to make a very similar quill in the future. I have an older style tail stock for my South Bend that is the correct style with the classic look, but it’s missing the quill. The newer style I'm using now has a different keyway arrangement so they don’t interchange. Are you planning on engraving graduations on the barrel ? I’ve been contemplating good way to do that. Thinking indexing head or rotary table and tail stock in the mill w/ small ball end mill. Lot of setup for a few lines. Would enjoy seeing your solution… ATB…Dean
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
No graduations , as it's for a wood lathe . Maybe one way to do them easy , bear in mind i have never seen or tried it yet would be to off set the quill in the 4 jaw & cut the graduations in that way . The tool should just contact a small area that way . Food for thought ! Cheers .
@metalworksmachineshop
@metalworksmachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Doug .
@bobvines00
@bobvines00 2 жыл бұрын
Max, what is the name/part number of the Ifanger(?) threading tool that you recommend at about 29:45 or so? I'd like to look it up.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure of the number , i will have a look . Google Ifanger & look at the Trade Tools Shop New Zealand & they have all of the info . Cheers .
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