Making a power switch for my lathe

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Jer Schmidt

Jer Schmidt

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@120Livi
@120Livi Жыл бұрын
The thing I love about metalwork most is the glue dries so quickly!
@aiTheVulture
@aiTheVulture Жыл бұрын
If only that metal glue wasn't so toxic to skin and cloth.
@patrickd9551
@patrickd9551 Жыл бұрын
@@aiTheVulture You might want to look up the definition of toxic ;) The correct word for metal snot glue is "dangerous" or "hazardous". Yes I know, just trolling here, sue me.
@jrkorman
@jrkorman Жыл бұрын
Jer, very nice!. I have one safety concern. Wire colors are coded on purpose. Please wrap the green wire from the switch with some red electrical tape or heat shrink to indicate that it is a hot wire. Green should never be used for anything except for grounding. The white wire should be wrapped with black for the same reason.
@gregfeneis609
@gregfeneis609 9 ай бұрын
Agreed, very nice work. Additional considerations for future builds: When painting the enclosure, do a small paint mask for the head of the contactor mounting screw where all the ground wires tie together. You might have done this and I missed it. Commercially made metal enclosures often have an inward facing 10-24 stud or similar with no surface finish surrounding the stud for ~1/4” radius for tying grounds together and bonding the enclosure ATST. Ideally, avoid use of a momentary switch for the stop circuit. It's going to be more mechanically complex to realize with your hip bar switch operation scheme, but not impossible. When you smash the bar in, it should open the stop circuit and that circuit should remain open and not rely on the contactor successfully dropping out to keep it open. When you pull the bar forward it could close the stop circuit and then momentarily close the start circuit. These are just typical machine control schemes.
@kappagrapes
@kappagrapes Жыл бұрын
"...so that you can see my design process." Yep, always my favourite part of these videos! The thought and attention to detail you put into this stuff is always a joy to watch.
@stevestofiel3521
@stevestofiel3521 Жыл бұрын
Great work! Your videos are so well structured and thought out. So glad you are back on KZfaq!
@EyeOnTheTV
@EyeOnTheTV Жыл бұрын
Please please please continue making these amazingly well thought out tools and videos. You're one of the smartest out there.
@curtlundgren6867
@curtlundgren6867 Жыл бұрын
The easy access to the power switch is a very good idea for convenience and safety. The control scheme, with two switches, one normally open and one normally closed is a good basic control idea. I remember doing the same to control a turntable in a small broadcast booth in 1969 or 1970. The biggest criticism I can offer is that you should be consistent with wire color codes. Using the green (normally a ground) as your common wire to the switches is generally a no-no - but if you wrapped some black electrical tape around a short portion of it, you'd be indicating it is not a ground wire. Same thing when using a white wire for hot or a black wire for neutral. You'd use white tape in that last situation. Your videos are always entertaining, you present your topics very well, and I very much enjoy watching them. Thanks, Jer!
@hawkie333
@hawkie333 Жыл бұрын
I can see a whole lot of this build is to allow for oil to flow into the pan. Cables are being routed over the table to avoid holes in the pan. This is a 9" lathe built around 1950, which doesn’t hit speeds you’d require coolant or make so many chips you’d have tons of oil. But it’s beautiful and who cares!
@chris_1337
@chris_1337 Жыл бұрын
I'm in awe of your creativity, troubleshooting, craftsmanship and precision. Amazing work!
@xraybox
@xraybox Жыл бұрын
A few thoughts, it would be a lot safer if the contactor coil was 12, or 24 volts, then you wouldn't have the potential for a short in the micro switch wiring causing a fire, as well, remove the risk of a hot wire energizing the metal push bar ! Other option, you can add a ground jumper from push car to lathe base pan (don't rely on pivot bolts for ground, you'll be lubricating them, an oil isn't a good conductor;) 3D print a plastic cover, and add fuses for power legs going to micro switches. Two last items Add a ground wire to switched outlet, the two screws holding it in are not a code approved grounding method And use a star washer under head bolt that's holding contactor to box, and a nylock nut, so you're guaranteed a solid ground years from now
@uncletoy774
@uncletoy774 Жыл бұрын
it's nice to see you putting stuff out on a regular basis again. hope everything is going well for you buddy.
@digrat
@digrat Жыл бұрын
The alignment hole in the 3D printed box is brilliant.
@Zophus1
@Zophus1 Жыл бұрын
I never do any of the electrical stuff cuz I don't want to fry my brain but I love watching this video just the same
@dangerdave616
@dangerdave616 Жыл бұрын
Your problem solving skills and ingenuity is breath taking dude, keep up the good work.
@paulhammond7489
@paulhammond7489 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos Jer. Because you are not an electrician, here is an electrical tip for your consideration. Placing the ground wire on the contactor nut / bolt is not recommended, as it could be loosened over time, or during fault-finding etc. Better to relocate it to a unique place. A stud is always the preferred fixing for earthing purposes. This simple modification could be carried out when you modify the contactor enclosure for reversing the motor or when you modify it for variable speed etc in the future. I already see comments about the choice of wire colours, those issues can also be easily addressed in the future updates with coloured sleeves or tape. You know what these wires are today, but in decades you or the next owner will find it much safer and much easier to conduct fault-finding with the correct colour coding on wiring. Keep up the great content Jer.
@johnolver3217
@johnolver3217 Жыл бұрын
Nice project! And nice south bend. My grandpa left me the exact one when he past. I bought your 2x72” grinder plans. That project turned out perfect! An brings a whole new level of quality to other projects now thanks again!
@Cenedd
@Cenedd Жыл бұрын
Like the emergency stop feature and the NVR feature. I'd personally be tempted to add a lock-off switch (even just an SPST switch in the 'Stop' line) as I can see if being possible to knock it on as you're leaning over it. It shouldn't but all that's got to happen is your belt catches on the switch and it could be pulled - especially with such a short throw. Paranoid? Perhaps, but cheap insurance. Interesting way of doing it though; I'd never have thought microswitches for that problem...and that's not a criticism in case it comes across that way!
@AdityaMehendale
@AdityaMehendale Жыл бұрын
Would you consider adding a secondary start-switch in series with the microswitch at 12:18 so that you cannot inadvertently switch-on the lathe (say - if your apron gets caught on the switch-rail, or if you have pesky visitors). The secondary (momentary) switch would be placed far away from the rail, of course, and switching on would become a two-handed affair.
@kennethelwell8574
@kennethelwell8574 Жыл бұрын
This could be accomplished with a simple ON/OFF switch on the power cord to disconnect power to the whole thing without unplugging. The switch/outlet combo device might actually be able to be rewired to do this, or more simply, a handy box with a single switch could be added beside the micro-switch box in front.
@Hephera
@Hephera Жыл бұрын
@@kennethelwell8574 an on/off switch on the power cord would run the danger of a lazy or inattentive operator forgetting to or neglecting to switch it off every single time the lathe is stopped. and would be very inconvenient to do so. a momentary switch in series with the main switch to require two hands to power on would be both convenient and safe
@improprietary1
@improprietary1 Жыл бұрын
A foot operated pedal would be an easy addition and used in industry. They have two levels of pressure, first level is normal operating procedure and bottoming it out breaks the circuit as a failsafe
@AdityaMehendale
@AdityaMehendale Жыл бұрын
@@kennethelwell8574 The problem with on/off switches is that they tend to be left in the on-position :) For the two-handed safety, the switch must be of the 'momentary' type.
@bogmaerke
@bogmaerke Жыл бұрын
​@@AdityaMehendale two handed solution is the way to go.
@homemadetools
@homemadetools Жыл бұрын
Great solution. This type of safety switch should be common more tools. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎
@user93237
@user93237 3 ай бұрын
Is it a public forum?
@mcknottee
@mcknottee Жыл бұрын
Maybe you already did it when I wasn't looking. But the metal lid on the box containing the micro switches needs to be grounded, or swapped for a non-conductive material. Love your work. 🙂
@tomim7187
@tomim7187 Жыл бұрын
This WAS helpful. This summer is when I get the South Bend hooked up and running! Thanks, Jer!
@billybike57
@billybike57 Жыл бұрын
Your “problem solving skills” are outstanding, well done!
@AdamS-nd5hi
@AdamS-nd5hi Жыл бұрын
Ur ability to think ahead and prototype while fabricating was satisfying to watch. Order of operations can be a cruel mistress so great job. Thats a sub from me
@jamesbarisitz4794
@jamesbarisitz4794 Жыл бұрын
I really like the old lathe. Very classy. ✌
@Kopsu87
@Kopsu87 Жыл бұрын
Clicked like before watching. Was not disappointed.
@CraigRoyK
@CraigRoyK Жыл бұрын
I love this. Great idea. If one wanted some addition safety in terms of the chuck key, you could use some sort of “key” based switch to cut power and attach that to the Chuck key. Then to use the chuck key you have to remove the power key, hence cutting power and preventing any restart (as the micro switches would be disabled) and vice versa.
@delucain
@delucain Жыл бұрын
I'm LOVING that you are back, Jer! Thanks for the videos!
@chadjmoore
@chadjmoore Жыл бұрын
New project idea. A Jer Schmidt designed and built metal brake. AAA quality!!
@aquaknot
@aquaknot Жыл бұрын
Might I recommend installing a locking stop station in series with your NC (stop) microswitch and placing it in a visible location. I'm only worried about accidental starting of the motor. Say you're leaning over the lathe and your belt gets caught on the paddle, you could easily start the machine and put yourself in harms way. A locking stop station would allow you to have a way to lock out the motor quickly without unplugging the unit. It would also allow for a layperson to stop the machine in an emergency without needing to be taught where the stop mechanism is.
@PavelKraus_webdesign
@PavelKraus_webdesign 8 ай бұрын
YES!
@barthanes1
@barthanes1 Жыл бұрын
Now it just needs a bold label etched into it. Nice work.
@keithviolette5870
@keithviolette5870 Жыл бұрын
I always love seeing the clever tricks you come up with. The L shaped rod that fit into the hole in the 3D printed switch housing to keep it centered during welding was genius. This makes me want to reconsider adding a similar switch to actuate the barrel switch I have on my 9" south bend...
@randyrru
@randyrru Жыл бұрын
Well done lad! Very nice design and layout!!
@daviddickmeyer5231
@daviddickmeyer5231 Жыл бұрын
Very nice design. And it works perfectly!
@UncySpam
@UncySpam Жыл бұрын
What a great idea. I am going to do this with my lathe. Thanks for dumbing it down enough that even I could work it out 😁
@jt9498
@jt9498 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Beautiful work!
@worldsmostrandomvideos7566
@worldsmostrandomvideos7566 Жыл бұрын
as a machinist, i can not stress it enough you need to add guards over the belts!!! you will become ground beef!! But looks great
@macswanton9622
@macswanton9622 Жыл бұрын
Rarely do I see someone else's project of which I wouldn't change a single detail. 👌
@rootvalue
@rootvalue Жыл бұрын
Truly a unique approach to problem solving and fabricating.
@TimPiggott
@TimPiggott Жыл бұрын
Watching you work is like music for my eyes! ❤
@Saugstauber123
@Saugstauber123 Жыл бұрын
Your ideas, build quality and solutions are on such a high level, I sometimes ask myself how you are going to top that in the next Video and you do! Again and again! Your Channel is easily one of the Best in that Genre!
@FishyBoi1337
@FishyBoi1337 Жыл бұрын
AYO!!!! was bored, now I got somethin worth watching 😁
@pmiknguyen
@pmiknguyen Жыл бұрын
Same!!!
@robertcrossley9803
@robertcrossley9803 Жыл бұрын
Another great video. The power switch bar is a well thought out and engineered piece of work. Thanks for the video
@EitriBrokkr
@EitriBrokkr Жыл бұрын
The only thing I'd change is some proper cord grip/strain relief. And circuit protection! You're probably going to be plugging that into a 20 amp outlet. If something goes wrong, it will melt, smoke and catch fire long before the breaker trips.
@truckguy6666
@truckguy6666 Жыл бұрын
matthias aint got nothing on you. And let me tell you thats as good a compliment as I can give a youtuber.
@Jer_Schmidt
@Jer_Schmidt Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I still prefer watching his videos to mine though ;-)
@Sludgepump
@Sludgepump Жыл бұрын
Up to your usual high standards, Jer. Terrific video... I always learn something from you.
@memyselfandeye1234
@memyselfandeye1234 Жыл бұрын
Very nice Jer as always .... Thank You Kindly for sharing peace
@Blasfemurr
@Blasfemurr Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you back :) Following you for a long time, love your stuff
@BrownCreature
@BrownCreature Жыл бұрын
Legend thanks Jer. It's a beautiful switch
@juyfjgfjhgfjugf4702
@juyfjgfjhgfjugf4702 Жыл бұрын
I really hope you get into more metal projects!!
@ericnicastro
@ericnicastro Жыл бұрын
Your problem solving and solutioning skills are amazing. Well done!!
@jimsjacob
@jimsjacob Жыл бұрын
Love the planning and the detail. It’s kinda like a chess game. You have to think several moves ahead on manufacturing and assembly or you’ll find yourself in a pickle….
@mckenziekeith7434
@mckenziekeith7434 Жыл бұрын
Good video! I'm not an electrician either. I am an electrical engineer but mostly I do electronics not electrician type stuff. I think the only violations were related to using green insulation wire for something other than ground, and using white for something other than neutral. Overall I feel like it was a pretty good installation. Way better than most DIYers. Maybe some of the wire termination and combining schemes are not technically allowed either (I'm not sure).
@AquaPeet
@AquaPeet Жыл бұрын
Love it! Seems super duper safe, robust and functional! Thanks for sharing! :)
@vallejokid1968
@vallejokid1968 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s pretty cool you’ve gone the Tom Scott route an wear the same clothes for every video now. Makes it feel like a continuous process 😄
@lennyf1957
@lennyf1957 Жыл бұрын
Nice design and execution, thanks for the great video.
@andreblanchard8315
@andreblanchard8315 Жыл бұрын
Looks like that chuck is threaded onto the spindle. If that is the case reverse is of limited use, can even lead to some excitement.
@romanlastname4133
@romanlastname4133 Жыл бұрын
I was scrolling through the comments to see if someone else had mentioned it. For thread mounted spindles, any reverse operations can cause the chuck to come off at operating speed and therefore common practice is no reverse operations with this type of chuck. Do you know what type of chuck this is? Roman.
@phooesnax
@phooesnax Жыл бұрын
Nice job. No left thread chasing for you:-0)
@Everythings_Adjustable
@Everythings_Adjustable Жыл бұрын
Really nice work Jer! There are a lot of useful comments about controls and wiring below so I won't add anything to them, Here's a couple of things that might help with future wiring, I have found Ratcheting Wire Crimpers work very well and look out for 'piggyback spade connectors' . Thanks for posting all your videos they make me want to do better
@mattym8
@mattym8 Жыл бұрын
This is clever. Thanks for sharing.
@mauserkk98
@mauserkk98 Жыл бұрын
Love it ,well thought out .
@farmerjohn8726
@farmerjohn8726 Жыл бұрын
Interesting ... nice detail work and great explanations! It does seem that if you are, say, changing tools or in the process of mounting a workpiece in the chuck, and reach down into a drawer to grab a wrench or chuck key or shim, that you run the risk of clipping the horizontal switch on the upstroke from the drawer, and accidentally powering things up in an unsafe configuration. Just imagining; you will have a better feel for how it will work in practice. Cheers, John
@tomhoffman8873
@tomhoffman8873 Жыл бұрын
You are amazing. Good job. Well done.
@jhtnpa
@jhtnpa Жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thank you
@Polothy
@Polothy Жыл бұрын
Nice work, good concept! Although starwashers on your ground terminals would be nice
@yelims20
@yelims20 Жыл бұрын
Al's Machinery... looks factory
@randomreviews7574
@randomreviews7574 Жыл бұрын
Dang Jer i thought this switch video was going be kinda dull but man your ability to get all this working and be so clean is amazing. Great Job and another great video -- and you said you aren't an electrician
@ianvicedomini2648
@ianvicedomini2648 Жыл бұрын
Awesome work jer and practical too. Great video buddy 👍🏽 👏 👌
@WarriorWise1
@WarriorWise1 Жыл бұрын
You have such a brilliant mind Jer!
@1889michaelcraig
@1889michaelcraig Жыл бұрын
Beautiful machine brother. I have the same exact Lathe. I have the Furnas forard and reverse switch though. Lol and of course the reverse doesn't work
@doco6186
@doco6186 Жыл бұрын
I'm impressed with your design skills
@themagiccoasterlover
@themagiccoasterlover Жыл бұрын
Great work Jer! Love electromechanical projects! I'd love more details on that lathe, from the few frames I saw it appears to have an "Atlas Machinery Canada" plate on it. That's a very well known machinery shop here in Toronto. Would love a walk through of that beast!
@phivestarz
@phivestarz Жыл бұрын
Great video - and I know how a contacter works thx to technology connections. Cool project as always.
@Jer_Schmidt
@Jer_Schmidt Жыл бұрын
I thought about plugging that video since the timing was perfect. Probably should have.
@Enigma-Sapiens
@Enigma-Sapiens Жыл бұрын
Great looking and working setup Jer, thanks for sharing it with us!
@thymekiller
@thymekiller Жыл бұрын
Super nice lathe and build. Thanks for sharing.
@thechumpsbeendumped.7797
@thechumpsbeendumped.7797 Жыл бұрын
Excellent as usual.
@NV..V
@NV..V Жыл бұрын
Another great video my friend. Everything you create is impressive and inspirational as hell!
@Ede74
@Ede74 Жыл бұрын
Hey Jer, stunning video as always. your switch is very convinient to use. S+thanks for sharing 🥳
@coldasfire
@coldasfire Жыл бұрын
Great build! I agree with the wire colors. What I believe to be more dangerous than the wrong color is that paint is an insulator and your ground bolt through the metal enclosure was touching mostly paint and you are now hoping for the 1/4 of a thread or so to make contact with the case. There are provisions in the National Electrical Code to allow for such connections and it tells you in there to grind or sand of any paint. Should be an easy fix and really make the difference in case of a line-to-case fault.
@stephencoster9532
@stephencoster9532 Жыл бұрын
Hiya Jer, Great video; thank you so much for perfectly demonstrating your build. I was an electrician in the UK for many years, and I have a few minor points. As we use 230v rather than 120v, they may not equate. The 1st point is non-voltage related. The crimp pliers you use, I used the same for many trouble-free years, but then the ratchet style was designed. These always apply the correct pressure to your crimp with much less hand pressure making for a better joint. I tried a pull-apart test using both pliers and the ratchet type won very easily. Worth noting. Where you have cut down the conductors to fit two wires into one connector? I would have used a yellow insulated crimp connector, which allows for a greater conductor size. Even with mA, it is worth developing correct habits. I can still hear my instructor telling us that over and over during my five-year apprenticeship. The 2nd point, which may be voltage related, is we were never allowed to have bare contacts against flammable materials, as in your contactor and the MDF. Something like mica had to be sandwiched between the two. This was made compulsory in the 80s. Even with the air gap you have, there is nothing non-inflammable between the two. The mechanical setup was very impressive; I can see where your head is at. Stay safe, Steve...
@WilliamAlanPhoto
@WilliamAlanPhoto Жыл бұрын
Beautifully done!
@johnkaufmann4711
@johnkaufmann4711 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful set up . We'll done .
@wifidon6617
@wifidon6617 Жыл бұрын
A good idea and better implementation. Good to see your content again.
@phooesnax
@phooesnax Жыл бұрын
I always enjoy seeing what you are up to. Always interesting and well done.
@mikelastname
@mikelastname Жыл бұрын
After having a clothes meets lead screw experience, I wired in a N.O. foot switch into my lathe and drill press and rigged the switches with latching relay so I can't start it without having my foot on the switch, and I can't just start it by stepping on the switch. Very mild inconvenience for big improvement in safety.
@Jer_Schmidt
@Jer_Schmidt Жыл бұрын
Interesting idea, I like that! Thanks!
@rolliebca
@rolliebca Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video Jer! I really like it when you share your thought process with us. Looking forward to your next video. Cheers!
@DirtyEngineer
@DirtyEngineer Жыл бұрын
Great video and project!
@Exodus5K
@Exodus5K Жыл бұрын
Brilliant. You mentioned maybe using a VFD in the future, I've been wanting to put one on my drill press for a while so I don't have to move belts, but I'm not well versed in electronics! Would you ever consider a video walking through that whole process?
@Jer_Schmidt
@Jer_Schmidt Жыл бұрын
That could be a good quick video sometime. Especially since most people building my belt grinder need this info. I'm far from an expert though. Will consider it.
@Exodus5K
@Exodus5K Жыл бұрын
@@Jer_Schmidt Thanks Jer, I appreciate you
@uuugberns
@uuugberns Жыл бұрын
It is always a good idea to stick cables color code. Avoid confusion even for yourself in two years.
@dognoseranger
@dognoseranger Жыл бұрын
Very satisfying!
@OktoPutsch
@OktoPutsch Жыл бұрын
Designed at Stand-for university. Good vibes, don't damp them.
@sambonefarmer9139
@sambonefarmer9139 Жыл бұрын
Very nice work!
@IBongosebI
@IBongosebI Жыл бұрын
Absolute stunning! thank you
@breakinn403
@breakinn403 Жыл бұрын
Great job as usual. Well thought out 👍
@louisfkoorts5590
@louisfkoorts5590 Жыл бұрын
Spot on 👍🏻 Thank you Jer.
@BSpinoza210
@BSpinoza210 Жыл бұрын
Well done Jer. Keep kicking ass!
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Great job. Thanks for the videl keep on keeping on.
@genemcintyre5352
@genemcintyre5352 Жыл бұрын
Very inventive, well done Jer.
@michelecrown2426
@michelecrown2426 Жыл бұрын
Freakin awesome. Love the way this works.
@k9elli
@k9elli Жыл бұрын
Super clean
@phooesnax
@phooesnax Жыл бұрын
FWIW the stock control arm reverse switch I have on SB 10 is quite convenient.
@aticuss
@aticuss Жыл бұрын
Great job!
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