Making an Engine Turned Watch Dial

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2 жыл бұрын

I'm back! Took some time away from content creation to develop some new stuff for my brand. I've taken a slightly different approach to this video; no talking or narration, just making chips.
In this video I make a dial for an upcoming series of watches. The dial is a monoblock construction with integrated dial feet. It starts off as a bar of 360 brass and is carved away into a engine turned (guilloche) dial that is finished off with a plating of rose gold. The dial will receive black polished applied indices and black polished and blued steel hands.

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@alsadaj1834 Жыл бұрын

You're a lucky guy to not only have access to all these truly remarkable machines but to be able to use them so well. Thanks for taking us back to pre- CNC days!.

@richardnedbalek1968 Жыл бұрын

The satisfaction you must receive from both admiring your own work and having it admired.

@zachsmith3524 Жыл бұрын

Nice adaptive tool path and Swiss tears 😂. Your process is great Darren!

@satyris410 Жыл бұрын

I would so much prefer just listening to the ambient noise, rather than the muzak. Masterful work, thank you for sharing.

@hutchdw77 Жыл бұрын

The “Swiss Tears” bucket got my subscription.

@JeePeeEs 2 ай бұрын

LOL

@dimitriivanov6910 Ай бұрын

same

2 жыл бұрын

Super nice work bro.

@DMTiffanyTimepieces 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'm a big fan of your channel!

@ProbablyAtTheOffice Ай бұрын

Hell yeah that is so neat. I wanna get in to making watches and this dial is incredibly inspiring 🔥💪

@KylesKinetics Жыл бұрын

I’ve worked with metal in the form of welded sculptures for ten years. I’ve loved watches for longer. I started taking machining classes and I can’t stop thinking about watch making like this. I’d do anything to be able to machine watch parts and work in that art/engineering medium

@LawrenceButcher 2 жыл бұрын

You milled the feet in, serious flex you animal! Love you're work and great to see some content again. Keep it up.

@chrisblight6069 2 жыл бұрын

Saw this on Instagram, very nice work on the Guilloche, and the integrated dial feet are a clever addition. Certainly gives the whole thing more strength, dial feet are a pain to fix normally.

@homeworkshopengineering Жыл бұрын

Beautiful work there. I started making myself a watch many years ago and put it aside. This is very motivating to get it done. I say watch, I mean case

@colerogers3137 Жыл бұрын

I machine my own dials, not with a rose engine lathe but with a manual mill and lathe. I had some trouble with super glue holding throughout the process so I switched to JB Kwik weld. When I’m finished I soak it in acetone for a few hours and it comes right off.

@ateliervipond 2 жыл бұрын

So happy you're back making videos. Wonderful to see more of the process!

@ReubenSchoots 2 жыл бұрын

Yes! I've waited a year for this. Brilliant work Darren. Much respect 🙏

@grzegorzsobczak8167 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing job! Saw Your first videos on building the turning engine months ago and greatly anticipated the results. They are stunning!

@michaelmartinez5365 Жыл бұрын

That is an absolutely stunning dial!! Kudos 👏

@manuelr.s6328 Жыл бұрын

WOW...stunning, thanks so much for showing the process

@garyshirinian 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing work thx for sharing. I wish I had a chance to do what you do. Such pleasure watching work being done on guilloche machines when you see taking life of its own.

@TheRecreationalMachinist 2 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed watching, thanks for sharing! 👍 🇬🇧

@RedPandaLesbian 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful, thanks for sharing your process!

@campbellmorrison8540 7 ай бұрын

Fascinating seeing the whole process, Im really surprised at how little time was required in the rose gold plating bath. Im loving how you make your own gear

@paulschumacker9901 2 жыл бұрын

WOW! I would love to learn how to do that! Many thanks for showing us what is possible!

@DarkPa1adin 2 жыл бұрын

so much work just to make one dial... this is insane quality!

@feafajic6392 10 ай бұрын

Excellent craftmanship

@JeePeeEs 2 ай бұрын

great video & beautiful work

@robdon6458 2 жыл бұрын

You do some really lovely work. I hope your watchmaking enterprise is wildly successful.

@minhoonyoo9657 2 жыл бұрын

Great result and quality video! thanks for sharing your work :D

@jozefnovak7750 Жыл бұрын

Super! Thank you very much!

@tomcruz3774 Жыл бұрын

That's amazing. I was searching on yt how certain dial patterns were made and found your video.

@anad2982 Жыл бұрын

You really like this video? It is different. Old technology don’t you reckon?

@AppliedCryogenics Жыл бұрын

I like the mad scientist plating baths! I tried doing something like that once, and every single ferrous object in my garage rusted overnight. Even hot-blued things. It was very surprising. Maybe I shouldn't have run so much current through the HCl solution that steamed all night. ;)

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

That's amazing really nice work. I'm impressed

@_GOD_HAND_ 2 ай бұрын

Did you build that rose engine yourself? Incredible

@harryhirsch3637 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. The plating part is very helpful. For the turning, us normal mortals will have to find a way with a china cnc-router... But that dial looks stunning!

@Karol235 Жыл бұрын

fantastic job!

@CMacE920 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful!

@SingaporeTravellerAdventure 2 жыл бұрын

Nice! Thanks for sharing. Wish you happiness, health, and peace, stay in touch🙏😊

@brennerheavy 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome work brother, if I could "like" it twice, I would.

@SwissplWatches 2 жыл бұрын

totally incredible!!!

@petercozzaglio6070 Жыл бұрын

Beautiful.

@Likeaudio 2 жыл бұрын

Nice work

@stephlaw5958 Жыл бұрын

Real nice! Great work. Keep it up :))

@TheKnacklersWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

An enjoyable video, thank you

@jemofficialromantic492 Жыл бұрын

Very very nice

@zumwild 2 жыл бұрын

Born feet first! So beautiful to "watch" :-)

@soundmindtv2911 Жыл бұрын

"Swiss tears" 😂

@wannabecarguy Жыл бұрын

I know a machine shop that specializes in impossible things. They lack what it takes to make this type of master piece.

@stewartmcmanus3991 Жыл бұрын

Amazing.

@azazel7996 Жыл бұрын

beautiful

@jcs6347 2 жыл бұрын

I have thoroughly enjoyed this. I am new hobby guy and never knew what a rose or straight engine were until I watched your videos on them last nite. I am looking for how you make the indices now. I like the different format for this demonstration. I also really like your detailed video 1 and 2 on how you are to make the straight line engine. I have most that equipment at home or work and can't wait for you to finish the straight line engine and potentially make one myself. Thanks for sharing!

@pamdemonia Жыл бұрын

Lovely!

@andrewspence3171 Жыл бұрын

I have no abilities to make a thing like this. What amazed me, was the number of steps taken to make the finished ( except for numbers and hands) dial. I would probably make a real mess of it if I tried. I would take the brass bar, face it in the lathe, part it off, glue it to a support and mill out the 12 recesses, then mill the pattern, then plate it. Where is that wrong? ( sorry, should have said, the dial is superb)

@druma159 2 жыл бұрын

So glad to see you back. This video is awesome. Are you planning on releasing any more about your straight line lathe?

@DMTiffanyTimepieces 2 жыл бұрын

I probably won't be revisiting the straight line build for a little while. Though I do plan on making a video on my Hall straight line engine that I restored.

@druma159 2 жыл бұрын

@@DMTiffanyTimepieces Ahh, that is what I saw in the backgound. Would love to see a vid.

@melody3741 5 ай бұрын

WHAT!!!!! Milling the feet like that???? Holy shit????

@thibaultravel9331 Жыл бұрын

That’s amazing and tasteful as well. How much are the watches ? Any plans on selling dials?

@imajeenyus42 2 жыл бұрын

There's something so satisfying about seeing the pantograph engraver in action! Did you experience any problems with the brass blank warping after so much material had been removed from one face during milling? Funnily enough, I did something similar a few weeks ago, and the blank warped and popped off the holder half way through. It might be something to do with the alloy though - it looks like you have a free-machining material, more like you'd get in bar form, while I had the ductile stuff (long string chips when turning).

@DMTiffanyTimepieces 2 жыл бұрын

I'm using 360 brass (free machining) in extruded bar form. So far it's been super stable while machining. I remove nearly equal amounts from both sides, and the dials have been coming out dead flat. The lead content allows it to machine more powdery, you can especially see it while engine turning. It breaks the chips off very short, when non-leaded brass alloys will produce a long stringy chip.

@imajeenyus42 2 жыл бұрын

@@DMTiffanyTimepieces Thanks, that makese sense. 360 sounds about the same as the CZ121 we have here.

@vidsantoro 2 жыл бұрын

Swiss tears, lol. Great video!

@tito_662 Жыл бұрын

Awesome work. Any update on this piece?

@joshuanapier1463 2 жыл бұрын

Really interested by your use of the pantograph to creat the dial feet. May I ask why you do it that way rather than milling and either tacking or gluing the dial feet in position??

@DMTiffanyTimepieces 2 жыл бұрын

The milled dial feet are just way stronger and more accurately placed than soldered feet.

@RossWristWatchLove 2 жыл бұрын

Fire!!!!

@emalis Жыл бұрын

Hi! Thanks for the video! What is the name of the guilloche machine and where can I buy it?

@A.Pipetkin 2 жыл бұрын

Bravo. Сэндвич это очень хорошо. Вам нужно работать с серебром

@jeroennishikigoi1164 10 ай бұрын

I wish i could learn this somewhere

@ammonrichards3131 Жыл бұрын

Have you made a video about the process you showed in the video of changing the color of the brass?

@BaltimoreKnifeandSwordCo 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing this!! Anyone dreaming of a good pantograph let me know. I have a heavy spindle Gorton P2-2 available very cheap. Love to see it go to a new craftsmen. I replaced it with a P1-3. Located in 21104 USA at a fraction of what I paid.

@DMTiffanyTimepieces 2 жыл бұрын

The P2-2 is a beast. Wish I had room for one more.

@misterhatman5771 Жыл бұрын

Just found this. Didn’t know you could hook a pantograph up to a mill!!! What’s the feed back and haptics like?

@deadprivacy Жыл бұрын

"swiss tears" lol

@leahannwhite1111 Жыл бұрын

Can you tell us more about these machines you are using?

@LucasGuillemette Жыл бұрын

Swiss tears 😭

@brokenarrow1348 2 жыл бұрын

'Swiss Tears' sounds like a drink served at Russian hockey games.

@DMTiffanyTimepieces 2 жыл бұрын

It's a delicacy enjoyed around the world!

@sphandengraving5691 Жыл бұрын

Truly amazing work! Are you on Instagram? Do you sale any of your dials? I came across this from searching his to solder feet on as I’m trying to get some black dials for hand engraving. I sure hope you make some more videos this is something I can come to KZfaq for thanks for sharing respectfully Paul

@TheLeeattwood Жыл бұрын

Wicked 🎉

@zeemonkee13 2 жыл бұрын

Fascinating process. Just wondering how you harvested that much Swiss Tears?

@DMTiffanyTimepieces 2 жыл бұрын

When I tell them that I make watches in imperial measurements, the tears flow like the river Nile.

@zeemonkee13 2 жыл бұрын

@@DMTiffanyTimepieces 😹🎉

@vidsantoro 11 ай бұрын

I gotta ask: what's the difference between depth of cut and total depth?

@garyshirinian 2 жыл бұрын

Here I'm watching again your video. It's so beautiful. What kind of rosette are you using, what the pattern looks like. It's incredible.

@DMTiffanyTimepieces 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Gary. The rosette is a 24 wave, 0.005" amplitude.

@garyshirinian 2 жыл бұрын

@@DMTiffanyTimepieces thx very much. When I retire in 5 years I feel like making a small one for hobby. I wish that I could come and yours someday. I live Toronto Canada 🇨🇦. Thx for replying. So I'm guessing that it's radius not just a step. Is 6" in diameter? Because when I look it seems about there. Thx again

@DMTiffanyTimepieces 2 жыл бұрын

@@garyshirinian My rosettes are 5.25" in diameter. The pattern looks just like a low amplitude sine wave, but wrapped around a circle. Very smooth transitions, and I'm using a ball bearing as the touch piece.

@garyshirinian 2 жыл бұрын

@@DMTiffanyTimepieces thx for replying. I would use also ball bearing. Is it just in .005 or in .005 out .005

@Victor33 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing. Do u sell them ?

@dimman77 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, but any reason you don't just face the backside on the lathe then spotface and solder on some lathe turned dial feet? I mean besides just for showing how awesome pantograph milling is.

@DMTiffanyTimepieces 2 жыл бұрын

The milled feet are significantly stronger and more accurate than soldered feet. It's worth the extra material/time to do it this way to avoid having to scrap a dial with hours of work into it because one of the feet fails.

@feynthefallen Жыл бұрын

Is that what they do in Geneva to make these super expensive watches.

@douglaslodge8580 2 жыл бұрын

Did you build the lathe ?

@user-ei2de3cs8g Жыл бұрын

good mashine)

@911_dan2 2 жыл бұрын

👏👏

@freshdugi Жыл бұрын

What kind of Guilloche machine is that? It appears as though it could have been shop made.

@DMTiffanyTimepieces Жыл бұрын

I built this rose engine myself. I have another video on my channel where I go over the machine in detail.

@marcn8750 7 ай бұрын

Nice video thanks you. May I request no music in the future ?

@b1r2y3n Ай бұрын

No, you may not.

@melody3741 5 ай бұрын

Holy. FUCK.

@abdulrehmanahmedshaik19 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing do u sell them?

@aliaslan4164 6 ай бұрын

Hello What is the brand and model of this rose engine? home made? please can you give me a plan

@JacobthePoshPotato Жыл бұрын

Why not use CNC, is it not precise enough?

@nunsc Жыл бұрын

where can I buy a dial like this?? it's for a custom mod.

@SK-gk6lw Жыл бұрын

SWISS TEARS ☕️

@tom18181 2 жыл бұрын

Did you get another pantograph engraver? I notice this one is green

@DMTiffanyTimepieces 2 жыл бұрын

I did! The green monster is a Gorton P2-3 3D pantomill. It's capable of running up to 3/8" tooling, and I use it primarily in my case making process.

@tom18181 2 жыл бұрын

@@DMTiffanyTimepieces Nice as!! You will have to make a video on that too

@melchizedek_v Жыл бұрын

I never knew it had to go through so much process..I thought it would be like we'll have the pattern in pc and make the pattern using laser

@wileecoyoti 2 жыл бұрын

Looks amazing! Two questions: would you approach it the same way if the dial was domed? Eg I've got a longines 280 based watch and a couple spare movements, the dials look pressed but maybe not. Second do you have a video going over your plating process in detail? Third, not a question: the homemade rose engine is a work of art for it's own sake.

@DMTiffanyTimepieces 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ryan! Usually domed dials on watches have been stamped. While there are ways to engine turn a dome (think Faberge egg,) it's a more challenging process that requires some unique parts when it comes to the cutter frame and cross slide. I don't have another video going over plating, but it's definitely something I can cover in more depth in a future video. In the meantime, if you have specific questions or want to bounce any ideas off me feel free to shoot me a message on IG.

@woodsmithbc Жыл бұрын

Swiss Tears.... 🤣

@bendeguzszabo3269 Жыл бұрын

Woooow what is that machine called??

@yesjared950 Жыл бұрын

Do you know any watch dial manufacture?

@milanvucicevic6820 5 ай бұрын

Moze li masina negde da se kupi i po kojoj ceni

@Spikeydelic Жыл бұрын

wtf is this kind of sorcery. I need to now.. how did you make this brilliant interface to run the machine?! the mill i man .. u guide it with delrin blocks it seems. but how.