Making Glass in a Microwave

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Degree of Freedom

Degree of Freedom

17 күн бұрын

I make glass for the first time. And I do it on a budget.
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@trstmeimadctr
@trstmeimadctr Күн бұрын
Be careful with an open microwave. Literally nothing kills more electrical hobbyists per year
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree Күн бұрын
Oh I believe it. That big scary capacitor. I only really left it open so that I could have a fan blowing on the electrical components.
@pavlos500
@pavlos500 Күн бұрын
The scary bug! You broke the bug!
@jcinthemountains
@jcinthemountains 3 күн бұрын
For a non-scientist, and if anything, maybe a bit of artist, that was very scientific! Well done.
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree 3 күн бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eLmFgKVzq9Dcoo0.html
@themichael3410
@themichael3410 2 күн бұрын
Use heat sinks from old servers. Some of them are thick chunks of copper and metal. Maybe that can help with dissipating the heat.
@jamesdean8260
@jamesdean8260 Күн бұрын
Glass eats the bricks. It's not the heat. It's the molten glass.
@Darksunbird
@Darksunbird 2 күн бұрын
so there are these microwave glass kits.. you can buy.. uhm yeah but you can also use a coffe mugg as a cover and a ceramic tile.. if you coat the inside of the mug with graphite. and the area youre putting the glass on (the tile) .. but i think the kits are made from some kind of refractory plaster..
@IOANCHRIST-GODSTEF
@IOANCHRIST-GODSTEF 4 күн бұрын
The Geometry, The Thicker The Section In The Middle Of The Bowl, The Harder To Melt!
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree 4 күн бұрын
Beautiful haiku.
@Ninth_Penumbra
@Ninth_Penumbra 3 күн бұрын
Colour of materials like quartz, etc. comes from their internal crystalline structure and the way that different crystals filter & refracts different frequencies of light. White chrystals are highly chaotic internally, which while still letting most of the visible spectrum pass through, will highly scatter the light rays to blur everything together. Perfectly clear glass has an extremely ordered internal structure, which gives the visible light almost perfect pathways to travel along to reach the other side of the material. If it were perfect, then it would appear nearly invisible - with only the random patterns of air molecules bouncing into it creating a faint distortion at its surface. Your blue-tinted glass has picked up some impurities from one or more of your ingredients (or the bowl, or the melted heat brick), causing it to reflect more of the blue part of the spectrum & making it look blue.
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree 3 күн бұрын
@@Ninth_Penumbra after posting the video, someone told me that borosilicate can have that light blue color. I didn't know at the time. It's crazy how mixing two different colored chemicals can make a completely unrelated color. I watched a lot of chem videos but I never really internalized that until I did it myself.
@markharmon4963
@markharmon4963 2 күн бұрын
Yes, a ceramasist friend of mine opened my mind to the phenomenon of molten materials having their own chemistry (of course). Glass becomes corrosive when molten. ​ I had no idea microwaves are useful for heating anything but water. I know they depend upon resonating with water molecules creating internal heat in food items. Thanks. @FreedomOfDegree
@chemicalvamp
@chemicalvamp 13 күн бұрын
I mean I may not know enough about this, But I wonder if that glass is boiling over. As far as your cracking, It probably needs to be cooled much slower. They have microwave oven kilns with silicon carbide on amazon that are capable of cooling it slow enough, and kiln paper might also interest you. I have also seen DIY microwave kiln videos here. but I think heating the glass directly like you and Steve did is more efficient than a radiant heating from the silicon carbide.
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree 13 күн бұрын
I did experiment a little with silicon carbide powder. I was hoping that I could add it directly to the mixture and it would heat up enough that I wouldn't have to pre heat it with the torch. I could never get the silicon carbide hot enough on its own. I didn't know microwave kilns were a thing, that's pretty cool.
@nunyabisnass1141
@nunyabisnass1141 3 күн бұрын
Yes it can boil over as you suggest. The borax has water in it, the bicarbonate off gases CO2 as it decomposes, and there's a reaction with the carbonate and boric acid, because one is slightly acidic, and the other slightly basic.
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree 3 күн бұрын
@@nunyabisnass1141 you know what. I can't believe I didn't even notice that I mixed an acid and a base...
@thatcanada
@thatcanada 12 күн бұрын
I would guess your microwave is just not powerful enough - those small ones are around 800 watts - find one 1500 or greater.
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree 12 күн бұрын
That might destroy everything.
@TrolleyMC
@TrolleyMC 11 күн бұрын
dude this video was awesome, I mean totally dangerous but the amateurish experiment combined with your commentary was funny. Totally worth god knows what kind of fumes you inhaled. P.S, when you pour your glass onto that metal or graphite, pre heat that material with a torch before you pour, so that the glass will cool slower and not crack due to the temperature shock.
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree 11 күн бұрын
Thanks! There definitely were unknown fumes when I heated the sand from the stream. I don't think the boric acid or the sodium bicarbonate would give off too much. Maybe some CO2 or water. They might have been vaporizing as well but I feel it was well ventilated enough for those.
@gabotron94
@gabotron94 8 күн бұрын
Not surprised the glass turned out blue, even if the ingredients were all white. Ben mentions this in his video I think. In glassmaking tiny amounts of metal salts the color, at those temperatures dyes wouldn't work, so color comes from ionic something-or-other interactions. So the tiniest impurities from stabilizers or other additives in the baking soda or roach killer must be doing that. Also notice the slight green ting regular window glass has? They use iron as the additive for that. Your screw glass is green because of that but at like 1000x concentration
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree 8 күн бұрын
Had no idea that they put iron in regular glass. That's pretty cool. I mean, it's probably pretty well researched, but I wonder what colors other metals might make?
@heyarno
@heyarno 6 күн бұрын
@@FreedomOfDegree With rare earth metals, you can make glass do fancy colours and effects.
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree 6 күн бұрын
I was looking into one effect. Like uranium glass but for infrared. Photon upconversion. However, I've yet to find a source of the materials I'd need. Of course I could probably just but the nano particles flat out, but where's the fun in that?
@LucianoDembsoki
@LucianoDembsoki 5 күн бұрын
Nice vídeo man
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree 5 күн бұрын
Thanks! (Tips fedora emoji)
@barrymayson2492
@barrymayson2492 7 күн бұрын
Also the glass cooling down will crack and spit glass shards at you. If you want to preserve what you made you have cool the glass slowly under a hot flame but not a blow torch.
@barrymayson2492
@barrymayson2492 7 күн бұрын
Your are not moving the mixture around microwave energy comes out in nodes and is effectively stationary. Would not cook very well which is the reason there is a turn table to move the food around under the different nodes. You need to identify the node and place the under it. That's why the block heats in different places.
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree 6 күн бұрын
Exactly right. I didn't really show it because I felt it was a drag on the pace of the video, but I did fiddle around with the placements a lot just to get to work. In some cuts you might notice that the thing I'm heating moves slightly. That's usually because it was heating only one side or something and I just centered it. If I end up visually cutting something like this in the future, I'll try to at least make a comment about it in the video.
@danacraig2535
@danacraig2535 3 күн бұрын
In order to firmly conclude what effects different parameters are making... maybe only change one of them per run. Changing the formula and adding the screws makes it impossible to establish the effects of each.
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree 3 күн бұрын
@@danacraig2535 Well, I can at least be pretty certain that the screws turned the glass green because the glass that formed further from the screws stayed that nice light blue. At the same time, I can be fairly certain that the increased quartz also was the reason for the resulting glass was much more viscous, as the part that seemed to have much less iron from the screws had the same observable viscosity. Yes, I agree that by changing 2 variables simultaneously, it is impossible to be absolutely sure which was responsible for a changed result, if not both together. However, I feel that under certain circumstances, more can be learned in a shorter amount of time by changing multiple parameters at once. Plus, If someone were to test a single one of these 2 parameters, say the larger quartz ratio, then the other result (green glass from iron) could be implied. In the end you'd need 2 experiments either way.
@InservioLetum
@InservioLetum 3 күн бұрын
"little while ago" vid: NO SCORE AND SEVEN YEARS AGOOO.... 👵👴
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree 3 күн бұрын
😏
@RelativeLYIMpatient
@RelativeLYIMpatient 7 күн бұрын
very informative well done I had no idea wow very cool
@grammadonutsquashdog431
@grammadonutsquashdog431 4 күн бұрын
You need to cool glass- ceramic slowly or it crazes....( cracks or it is brittle). Annealing or so,ething like that. Would love to see another go round with higher powered microwave. So you can heat slowly and maybe an oven to cool it in.
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree 3 күн бұрын
When I find a way to protect the firebricks from the molten glass, I will absolutely make another video because I want to see just how hot I can get it. *edit: another video about this topic, I've got more on the way regardless 😉"
@ElMoonLite
@ElMoonLite 11 күн бұрын
Why not just use one crucible as a lid on top of the other one? Also microwaves tend to have hotspots; basically interference patterns with bulges and dips. The location you put your sample might completely alter the results. Maybe it helps if you find out where the hotspots are and put your sample there. Not sure if these hot spots are always in the same place though. A rotating platform microwave could help get more consistent results moving through hot and "cold" spots, but maybe not staying in hot spots long enough would mean not getting enough heat to melt, or have side effects from heating and cooling over and over. Anyway, food for thought, research, or experimentation 😊
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree 11 күн бұрын
I did consider it. After having all my firebricks melt, I started thinking about ways to protect the brick. The best I could think of was to coat the top of the furnace, and the bottom of the lid with the same stuff the crucible was made out of, but that's a bit beyond my ability. There definitely were hot spots. I spent a lot of time moving the samples around just trying to get them to heat up at all. For that, maybe we could change the shape of the microwave oven. Instead of a box, we could make it a thin-ish (2-4 inch diameter) cylinder that is about the wavelength of the microwaves. That way the hot spot would be more reliably and understandably located.
@ElMoonLite
@ElMoonLite 11 күн бұрын
@@FreedomOfDegree Yeah, I've always wondered about that as well. Can you modify the shape of a microwave to focus all the energy in one spot. It's fun trying to come up with ways to do that. A standing wave in a tube sounds like a good way to go. However, I wouldn't dare open up a microwave, modify how the radiowaves travel, and be anywhere near that thing when it turns on 😅 Even if I do think I grasp most of the physics behind it, and you can make a fine metal mesh all around it (like the one usually in the door behind the glass), and still I would feel like I was forgetting something 😛 To find the hotspots, I've seen people using things like chocolate sprinkles on a plate and see some places melt and others untouched, but that's just one 2d slice. I always wondered if you put a big block of styrofoam in it filling the chamber, if all the hot spots would melt so you can see them. Not sure styrofoam heats up though. Or else a giant block of cheese :D Oh and you have to slice it up after to explore the inside of the block otherwise you can't see where it melted.
@ElMoonLite
@ElMoonLite 11 күн бұрын
@@FreedomOfDegree I found another interesting thing on wikipedia.org/wiki/Melting_point : "Melting points are often used to characterize organic and inorganic compounds and to ascertain their purity. The melting point of a pure substance is always higher and has a smaller range than the melting point of an impure substance or, more generally, of mixtures. The higher the quantity of other components, the lower the melting point and the broader will be the melting point range, often referred to as the "pasty range"." I wonder how much the melting point shifts with impurity. Assuming store bought glass is more pure than your own mixture, can you just use a jam jar, and have your powdermix melt before the jar melts? It might be less sticky on the glass surface, and you can see what happens while trying it.
@ChrisKnowles1170
@ChrisKnowles1170 10 күн бұрын
@@FreedomOfDegree You can locate the hotspots with a bag of shredded cheese. They're 3D regions, though, so lock in the right height and mark the oven. Google 'measuring speed of light with microwave', it's a popular demonstration- cheese, chocolate, hotdogs, to name a few I've seen. I don't think modifying the oven is the way to go here- It's exciting/interesting, but it's also a distraction. Even if it weren't dangerous (and omg it is and absolutely will kill you if you let it), there's still plenty of science to explore here before going off to wherever a custom oven takes you. In the interest of prototyping/exploring the properties of your set up, try smashing good reclaimed glass (empty salsa jar, spent beers) and melting it down. Do one experiment at a time; Get your brick/crucible/oven situation sorted so that you're confident in your procedure for getting flowing glass, then start fooling around with ingredients. I know it's not as click baity to do them separately, but you can combine them in the edit, and the reclaimed glass will make great B-roll.
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree 10 күн бұрын
I don't think microwaves are that scary. @mrgreenguy did a really good video on the subject: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ac5yhduotr7Rc4U.html I also think the "shotgun method" can be valuable when doing science, especially when you are fairly certain that the multiple variables that you changed are not likely to interfere with each other. For instance, the last run I did, I used a much larger amount of silica in the mixture. I expected it to make the liquid glass less runny. I also threw in the steel security screws. I did not expect them to mix with the glass. In the end, the glass was much less runny, and took on a very pretty green color. While I can't say for sure that the additional silica is the reason it was much thicker because I added the screws, I have very good reason to believe that that is the case, because I think it's unlikely the screws had such an effect on the mixture.
@Snowwarrior
@Snowwarrior 5 күн бұрын
well done video
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree 5 күн бұрын
Thank you 😘
@justinstolz4481
@justinstolz4481 12 күн бұрын
Dude, this is an interesting video but you need to invest in some more safety equipment. I was just waiting for something to explode and maim you. Which is not the kind of views you want for your new KZfaq channel. Also, Sodium Carbonate is also known as "Soda Ash" and is relatively cheap. Walmart sells a 5lb bag for 15 bucks.
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree 12 күн бұрын
I put on the glasses.
@peteward6478
@peteward6478 3 күн бұрын
I liked this a bunch😅
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree 3 күн бұрын
@@peteward6478 science is fun and accessible, just be safe ☺️.
@InservioLetum
@InservioLetum 3 күн бұрын
To improve the process? Sure! I'll just play captain obvious here and point out using silica firebricks when melting silica into glass, might have something to do with your firebrick turning INTO glass. Juuuuuuuust a thought....
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree 3 күн бұрын
Well, if you want to get technical, I'm pretty sure the fire bricks are alumina which should melt higher than silica, but I'm absolutely sure that the little dishes are silica and they didn't melt or dissolve 🤷‍♀️
@InservioLetum
@InservioLetum 3 күн бұрын
@@FreedomOfDegree How strange! The bricks I put into my parent's house were aerated something something silica, hence my mistake, but have you worked out what could be vitrifying the lids yet? I'm really cuirous now!
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree 3 күн бұрын
@@InservioLetum I've read that sometimes alumina is added to glass to manipulate its properties. So I think some glass is getting out of the dish and dissolving it like a drop of water on cotton candy. Specifically for the lid, I noticed that the glass mixture was smoking when I removed the lid. I didn't think anything of it at the time, but looking back, some of the parts of the mixture may have been vaporizing and then condensing on the (relatively) cool lid. That or liquid chemicals would spatter onto the lid from the gasses that were released as the mixture was heated.
@joshhayl7459
@joshhayl7459 5 күн бұрын
🟦…You need to put something else in the microwave to absorb stray radiation, This will stop the oven from overheating,... ...Something like a LARGE cup of water in a microwave safe (but NOT Glass or Ceramic!) container.
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree 5 күн бұрын
First of all, I'd like to apologize in advance for this huge wall of text. I think it'd actually be the other way around. When the microwave is empty, it will form standing waves which should reduce power consumption which should also reduce the amount of heat generated by components in the microwave. But when I put something in, say water, the microwaves induce the molecules of water to align themselves to the field. Doing this takes energy, reducing the energy stored in the standing waves, as well as the energy resisting additional wave generation, allowing more power to flow through the components. At least that's my hypothesis, and now you've made me super curious as to whether or not power consumption increases or decreases when something is put inside the microwave. Might make a video testing that.
@gsestream
@gsestream 4 күн бұрын
too fast cooling and too fast heating, cracks the glass. well the steel screw would act as a microwave receiver like a spoon in microwave oven. how about stainless steel sheet above the fire brick. or a better fire brick, up to 1500C.
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree 4 күн бұрын
Allegedly, the fire bricks I used were made of alumina, which should withstand up to 2,000C. But because the steel screws that I threw in didn't melt, I think the glass was somehow chemically eating the bricks instead. I didn't try using metal as a container because it would simply block the microwaves. I might be able to get away with a single 2D sheet, but as soon as we have a 3D shape, we'd start casting shadows.
@gsestream
@gsestream 4 күн бұрын
@@FreedomOfDegree hint, the walls are steel sheet :) as in mirror wave box. also if the bricks are alumina, then there might be super hot drops every now and then which would eat through anything. like plasma. I mean if you use steel or copper sheet, that would spread the possible high heat spots so that the metal would not melt. if not, try MgO fire bricks, they are up to 3100C.
@gsestream
@gsestream 3 күн бұрын
@@FreedomOfDegree it could just be that the fire bricks are made of SiO2 not aluminium oxide alumina. that would explain why it melts with the glass.
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree 3 күн бұрын
@@gsestream If I were to put 2 sheets of metal at a right angle, it would create a sort of ambient occlusion, where light would have trouble reaching the corner even in a mirror box. This problem only amplifies with each addition piece of geometry. I'm sure there's some way to manipulate the geometry such that it minimally affects (or maybe even amplifies) the microwaves, but that's way above my pay grade. I didn't know about MgO. It does have a significantly higher melting point than alumina, but if the glass truly is dissolving it, then I see no reason it shouldn't dissolve the MgO as well. Surprisingly, the little dishes I used are basically pure silica and have no problem handling the heat, which is why I think the glass is melting the bricks chemically rather than thermally. Of course it could also be that the bricks are melting like cotton candy while the dish is more like trying to melt a rock. *edit: will def keep the MgO in mind next time, cuz I want to get it as hot as possible 😘
@gsestream
@gsestream 3 күн бұрын
@@FreedomOfDegree yes yes. but only one, below the glass stuff only.
@MickTee2k
@MickTee2k 13 күн бұрын
Great effort, I admire your dedication but cannot offer and suggestions to improve the results of your process. I can, however, suggest you try a different process - indirect heating rather than direct heating. There are a few videos showing that you can melt glass in a microwave kiln, so it may be possible to create it as well. This video shows you how to build your own microwave kiln. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jql5kqmBqbelXYk.html
@FreedomOfDegree
@FreedomOfDegree 12 күн бұрын
I'll look into them. But directly heating the glass feels like it heats up faster and maybe even hotter. The main way I thought I could improve my design was to cover all the fire bricks with a layer of the same stuff the crucibles were made of (quartz ceramic I think). But I'm not sure if the fire bricks might spontaneously catalytically melt at such high temperatures.
@MickTee2k
@MickTee2k 11 күн бұрын
​@@FreedomOfDegreeI will subscribe to see how you go :)
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