Making MIDI Guitars Sound Real

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Joey Sturgis Tones

Joey Sturgis Tones

2 жыл бұрын

Miami breaks down the reasons why MIDI guitars don't sound real and how you can fix it. How do you feel about using MIDI guitars? Let us know in the comments!
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@bradyclevenger
@bradyclevenger 2 жыл бұрын
I think the only thing that doesn’t sound human here is you my man. Pumping out all the content you do, and giving us all the good information. Totally inhuman lol. I personally haven’t experimented with midi guitars since I play guitar but my brother might get a real kick out of trying some of these techniques since he’s a drummer. Thanks for the tips as always.
@miamidolphin7519
@miamidolphin7519 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Brady! Glad it’s enough good info to keep you around! -Miami
@justinc9777
@justinc9777 2 жыл бұрын
As a guitar player for 18 years with a recently severed fingertip rendering me unable to play. recently i have had to utilise sampled guitars and rethink how i feel about sampled guitars. I have no issue with it anymore. Appreciate this video and how helpful it is to people in my current situation 🤘🤘
@benjaminbovay10
@benjaminbovay10 2 жыл бұрын
Great video ! I'll be happy to see more content about midi guitar/Bass/drums/instruments
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 2 жыл бұрын
I’m all for it -Miami
@devoidofskill
@devoidofskill 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, great timing on this video! Your transition game is always actually top tier it's scary. I know that Tokyo Scoring Strings has a crazy look ahead feature, and it's made by the same people behind the Shreddage libraries, so maybe they aren't actually that far out. The low end tip actually seems insane, gotta try it out.
@thecraiginator
@thecraiginator 2 жыл бұрын
Well done. Helpful tips for sure👍🏻🤘🏻 And yeah, I would be interested in acoustic guitar realism. The native instruments picked and strong acoustic I have are really awesome, but always good to see improvement tips
@SoundForgeStudio
@SoundForgeStudio 2 жыл бұрын
I know what I'm saying doesn't have to do with midi guitar.. but I have been watch your videos for a while and been learning alot and applying it as well and I'm taking on my first band in my home studio.. I posted I song I did about a month ago after watching, following and applying what i learned from this channel and it seemd to really impressive to these guys. I'm a little nervous but excited at the sametime.. thanks for diving into alot of the topic you guys do from drums to bass and guitars. I truly appreciate it and hope to share some of the music with you guys. Until then CHEERS my dude !!
@RaineyDaysStudio
@RaineyDaysStudio 2 жыл бұрын
Rad to see Solemn Tones getting the shout out! I love Mjolnir Drums and Kraken Bass as well!
@dragasan
@dragasan Жыл бұрын
Great job, man!
@worksofein6449
@worksofein6449 2 жыл бұрын
I'm about to be without guitar access for several months so this is well timed and pretty useful. 12/10 for the sub CTA too.
@coreyroberts47
@coreyroberts47 Жыл бұрын
Dude you are a lifesaver. I live in a hospital so I’ve got to fully program everything, never could get guitars right! I’m hype!
@Justwantpeacelove
@Justwantpeacelove 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this brother!
@LambertDriveStudios
@LambertDriveStudios 2 жыл бұрын
YO Miami !!! I love your enthusiasm!! Another killer video from the whole JST team !!
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it my friend! -Miami
@G-Doggy
@G-Doggy 2 жыл бұрын
Yes to acoustic MIDI guitar tips. Thanks!
@rakatai.i.i8739
@rakatai.i.i8739 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this one! In general, I would love to see a humanizing MIDI series for acoustic & clean electric guitars, bass & drums (both stuff like toon track and 1 shots). For me, the big things I don’t know are the ms or sample ranges that would be appropriate for timing, nor the velocity ranges to stick with or to avoid. Anyways, thanks for another kickass video!
@GTORT
@GTORT 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, this video couldn't be more on time. Buddy just sent me a full midi session for a demo and I'm using Odin. Boutta knock his socks off! Thank you so much Miami!
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 2 жыл бұрын
Anytime my dude! Hope you love it! -Miami
@dxsbond
@dxsbond 2 ай бұрын
these toold are honestly a great help to me, and in no way a replacement, i'm still learning guitar and i'd love to get to the point where I don't need them like that anymore
@SixteenVoice
@SixteenVoice 2 жыл бұрын
Keep 'em coming 🤘🏿
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 2 жыл бұрын
Will do! -Miami
@clintbeasthood9758
@clintbeasthood9758 Жыл бұрын
Moving one track before the grid and one after it is brilliant! Thanks for the tip!
@joeymusic
@joeymusic Жыл бұрын
Hope you have fun with it! It’s a cheat code -Miami
@Train-hard61
@Train-hard61 Жыл бұрын
This was good man
@dillonmattern3848
@dillonmattern3848 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see the acoustic midi sounding realistic. I’m not in a metal band but I have a BG in hardcore and punk rock so I get a lot of advice from you, Joey and Glen Ficker from SMG. Thanks for all your content brotha! I’ve learned a lot from you. Keep up the great work!
@JasonSaxMusic
@JasonSaxMusic 2 жыл бұрын
You should check out Orange Tree Samples, specifically Evolution Songwriter. Great acoustic MIDI stuff.
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Жыл бұрын
So, you're an Armchair Musician?
@JasonSaxMusic
@JasonSaxMusic 2 жыл бұрын
FINALLLY! Thank you Miami!
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry it took so long -Miami
@Treyrockschrist
@Treyrockschrist 2 жыл бұрын
DOPE! Would like to see how u made that palm mute sound. Diggn the sound over all tho. Great work!
@Jacksabbath44
@Jacksabbath44 2 жыл бұрын
this is gold, solo musicians that do covers or social media demo stuff could benefit of this, i think the first tip it's so obvious for all the midi programming that you didn't want to say it: You have to write down the parts correctly and with logic, some people try to write these unrealistic fingerings and riffs that doesn't translate well to realistic sounds, or the other way around, way too simple, no ringing out, even no muting, etc
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. I already had to talk about humanizing so I didn’t really want this to get to “explain it like I’m 5” level -Miami
@jasonclark6058
@jasonclark6058 2 жыл бұрын
Acoustic MIDI guitar video would be very interesting!!!
@eyotawakishwit8697
@eyotawakishwit8697 2 жыл бұрын
Same here! I'm curious to see how a producer would go about achieving that.
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 2 жыл бұрын
Alrighty, I’m on it -Miami
@gurumajuindonesia
@gurumajuindonesia 2 жыл бұрын
@@joeymusic brother, please do also how to get a great guitar tones with only plugin such as JST Jason Richardson etc ,, i mean only direct + plugin only
@Dgorbatko
@Dgorbatko Жыл бұрын
Hmmmm. I recently relocated to another country and left all my gears like guitar, preamps and audio interface in my home country. But every day I have a bunch of new melodies in my head, so this is a good trick to make some tracks without a guitar! Thanks!
@thephotodetective8507
@thephotodetective8507 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the acoustic Guitar Video!!! 🤩🤩🤩🤟
@InternetGod
@InternetGod 2 жыл бұрын
i really appreciate this video
@tbence997
@tbence997 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Miami! Can you make a Drumforge tutorial to get similar drum sound like in this video? 🤘🏻🥁
@drunkenyeknom
@drunkenyeknom Жыл бұрын
Great video! I find chugs/rhythm/breakdown/lower octave stuff relatively easy to make sound realistic but my problems are with leads and solos. They sound wayyy to fake and easy to spot. Any tips on that? Thanks!
@Keayes
@Keayes 2 жыл бұрын
Got some demos I'm working on that have midi guitar because of all the reasons you listed at the start. Been using RealLPC and Hydra, and tbh its already sounding close to decent. After I finish doing scratch vocals I'm keen to try this process on the guitars to see how it comes out the other side. Also, RealLPC is the only one I've tried that has that gives me the stank face when palm mutes come in. Low end feels great on it. Although I've been eyeing off odin too...
@Syklonus
@Syklonus 2 жыл бұрын
I use Real LPC too. Sounds great IMO, and I'm just using a really old amp sim.
@nickwuh
@nickwuh 2 жыл бұрын
i usually dont comment on these videos but miami you are so goated and funny 🙏🙏🙏
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you Nick! -Miami
@leader6303
@leader6303 11 ай бұрын
ur pro as hell :)
@drdandalf
@drdandalf 2 жыл бұрын
Yaaaassss!!Odin!!!!!! My buddy and I got Solemn Tones Odin recently, and we have been very grateful of it. Funny enough, I follow both Solemns Music channel, and his Yugioh Channel :D It's time to M-m-m-m.m.m.m.MIDI......
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 2 жыл бұрын
Yup yup -Miami
@jentaro
@jentaro 2 жыл бұрын
JST thumbnails have no chill. I love it.
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 2 жыл бұрын
We out here for real -Miami
@mattxmidi95
@mattxmidi95 Жыл бұрын
Being a drummer who uses Odin heavily in my writing, this video was very helpful. The only thing that i struggle with is getting my midi guitars sustain their notes more during a long outro of a song & not a lot of videos seem to talk about that particular subject.
@cjmllvv
@cjmllvv Жыл бұрын
Export to audio and time stretch
@benoittissier58
@benoittissier58 2 жыл бұрын
Of course we want the acoustic guitar video !
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 2 жыл бұрын
It’s in the queue -Miami
@nunyabizfam106
@nunyabizfam106 Жыл бұрын
More tutorials on how to program these kind of sounds would be great from a non-guitar/bass player. Also, some protect downloads to study the midi would be usefull.
@eyeslikeoceans
@eyeslikeoceans 2 жыл бұрын
I actually used ODIN and everything is 100% midi in my 2 latest covers on my channel. Post Malone Rockstar and Cher's Believe. I think making MIDI sound more human depends a lot on the type of song and what's being played. Just the amp sim you use can make a ton of difference.
@SHARt_murmur
@SHARt_murmur 2 жыл бұрын
Even though I’m not one to use it (MIDI guitar), it’s such a great tool for composition or inspiration, helpful for many I’m sure. On a similar note, I’d love to see a vid on how you edit guitars in Reaper. It’s something I’ve spent hours creating hot keys for, learning how to do, but seems to be hard to find videos on. I know I would’ve loved to have something like that when I was learning how to do it. Same goes for vocals too. Just a thought, great vid as per usual. :)
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 2 жыл бұрын
I’m down to do a reaper guitar editing vid in the near future! You’re right, most of the online tutorials suck -Miami
@sillyness3456
@sillyness3456 2 жыл бұрын
I like playing guitar. That’s reason enough for me, not to use MIDI guitars. But very interesting, how far it has come. By the way, that progression with the synth supporting is just amazing!
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it bro! -Miami
@ericedelmann765
@ericedelmann765 2 жыл бұрын
sorry im a latecomer to the video but I was wondering how many semitones to shift the duplicate for the low end boost -- or just the octave? Also how does one edit "transients before and after the beat? Is there a resource you can refer me to? Thanks for your time and teachings.
@zac3126
@zac3126 Жыл бұрын
12.... because it's an octave
@mistyfaye8785
@mistyfaye8785 2 жыл бұрын
Ayeeeeeee 💥🔥💥
@edelcorrallira
@edelcorrallira 2 жыл бұрын
Ok 1 Need to listen to that song, Miami those are some kick ass pipes 2 Midi guitars... Yeah! Loving the idea, the perfect tool for creating backing tracks (and hence drill some finger knotting exercises at ever increasing tempos, different keys, etc) In short... Awesome stuff!!!
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Eduardo! Its in my spiritbox video -Miami
@user-pq9ub1py9r
@user-pq9ub1py9r 6 ай бұрын
what guitar vst is this?
@nielpatrickdandoy4130
@nielpatrickdandoy4130 2 жыл бұрын
hey miami :) can i hear some of your production?
@okaight7248
@okaight7248 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the video! For some reason, guitar MIDI still upsets people as if the bassists and drummers haven't been getting the same treatment for the past 10 years now, lol. I love it for demoing because I can knock out a whole song so quickly, and with this I might be able to even eventually release a track with all MIDI instruments. We have been making metal production so fake with hyper editing that at this point might as well just go all the way and commit, haha.
@theinfant
@theinfant 2 жыл бұрын
Lol so true! Programmed vox when?? 😳😳😳
@okaight7248
@okaight7248 2 жыл бұрын
@@theinfant can I get a vocal impulse of Adele?
@theinfant
@theinfant 2 жыл бұрын
@@okaight7248 yeah for sure, we just need a way to make Adele play a small white noise blip through her vocal system. 🤔🤔
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, people are gonna get butthurt but pretty soon songs will be mixing themselves -Miami
@okaight7248
@okaight7248 2 жыл бұрын
@@joeymusic Sounds great to me. May the best songwriter/artist win.
@w.coast_piano6404
@w.coast_piano6404 Жыл бұрын
I can’t figure out how to use midi controllers dude it’s breaking my brain. I have a sweet keytar I can’t figure it out. Or where to get plug-ins/sound modules. If anyone has some tips @ me please
@user-lw9py
@user-lw9py 11 ай бұрын
maybe you can do a new video. there is now odin 2 here and axe machinica. many like play a guitar midi vsti and trigger it with a guitar audio to midi plugin to play double tracked rythm. I do tests but problem with this midi guitar is that mutes and chuggs sound very bad. for example when play the rammstein song du hast or many others. maybe you can get good sounding with toneforge amp sim modification ?
@user-lw9py
@user-lw9py 11 ай бұрын
2 part i test the demos of ample sound and realguitar vst
@lumpycorn5765
@lumpycorn5765 Жыл бұрын
Cool video. It would be cool if they made virtual guitar on ios.
@TheRivers10
@TheRivers10 11 ай бұрын
Please!, show us how to humanize the MIDI guitars like you did it for this video, although if you have one video like that, I'd appreciate if you tell us here it is.
@opticalmanic4787
@opticalmanic4787 Жыл бұрын
I'm confused on what midi ur using for the vst raw guitar sound :(
@joeymusic
@joeymusic Жыл бұрын
I’m using Odin guitars -Miami
@davidorjuela1
@davidorjuela1 2 жыл бұрын
what plugin you use to have the DI Guitar?
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 2 жыл бұрын
Odin by solemn tones -Miami
@davidorjuela1
@davidorjuela1 2 жыл бұрын
@@joeymusic Thanks!!!! Love u!
@stonethemason12
@stonethemason12 4 ай бұрын
I want to know how to WRITE guitar into the piano roll. In terms of getting more natural sounding voicings. Maybe ill learn here but if not ill leave this comment up
@williamharrison54
@williamharrison54 2 жыл бұрын
How about using midi guitar for a shredding lead?
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 2 жыл бұрын
That one never sounds amazing to me lol but I can show some tips🤣 -Miami
@drdandalf
@drdandalf 2 жыл бұрын
Oh!!! Mic giveaway soon?!? ✨️ 😃
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 2 жыл бұрын
That’s how I know you’re an og, dandalf 😂 -Miami
@justinlewington9395
@justinlewington9395 2 жыл бұрын
The main thing I struggle with is getting any riffs on the higher strings sounding more real cause they just sound so fake. Any tips?
@cjmllvv
@cjmllvv Жыл бұрын
Tried string locking in the shreddage series? Also adding reverb or delay or distortion can help
@TheSimpleCitizen
@TheSimpleCitizen Жыл бұрын
I just subbed harder than you can djent! 😅
@Tomileemusic217
@Tomileemusic217 2 жыл бұрын
🐐🐐🐐
@ITzRobertoBRO
@ITzRobertoBRO 2 жыл бұрын
Noooooooooooooooooooo 😭 Edit: I had to get to 2:10 thank you Miami for relating to and expressing how guitar players feel. I personally don't like the thought of people not learning the instrument and instead programming it to the point of it being EDM, however I do understand the reasoning. Simply, people want to make music. I'm still salty though.... 😩
@jayey195
@jayey195 Жыл бұрын
New Subscriber here
@endlichjura
@endlichjura 2 жыл бұрын
Acoustic MIDI, yes!
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 2 жыл бұрын
Its on the way! -Miami
@metatron333ascension
@metatron333ascension 2 жыл бұрын
for the lowend part can you use an octave pedal?
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 2 жыл бұрын
You sure can -Miami
@nickwatland4215
@nickwatland4215 2 жыл бұрын
People always ask me how I get my guitars sounding so good x D midi baybayyy
@blackmetalblackmass
@blackmetalblackmass 2 жыл бұрын
10:12. It was at this moment he knew…
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 2 жыл бұрын
For real... that was brutal -Miami
@arijung4539
@arijung4539 2 жыл бұрын
08:02
@R.DrewWhitson
@R.DrewWhitson 6 ай бұрын
I'm a guitarist and I actually think it's great. Just another tool for song writing.
@aleksamrkela831
@aleksamrkela831 2 жыл бұрын
Another major mistake of programming MIDI guitars is not using libraries that offer a broad array of articulations, or, if they do, not using them - dead notes, palm mutes, scrapes, harmonics, squeals - they're all essential. Fret position is another thing people overlook: the tone of one note can vary a lot depending on which string you play it. Fortunately, some sample libraries are taking this into consideration and giving us awesome new things every year!
@cjmllvv
@cjmllvv Жыл бұрын
Which libraries are best for this? Thanks in advance for the reply
@tasteink
@tasteink 14 күн бұрын
2:55 the video starts
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Жыл бұрын
The best tool in your arsenal to make MIDI guitars sound real is to actually learn to play a real guitar, and you'll instinctively know what sounds right and what doesn't.
@jorgeperez1696
@jorgeperez1696 4 ай бұрын
No Humani(z)ation*
@arnodesogus3540
@arnodesogus3540 2 жыл бұрын
poor mic 😆
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 2 жыл бұрын
Poor wallet also =/ -Miami
@crasyparty
@crasyparty Жыл бұрын
your voice kinda sounds like Ronnie Radke if he had a shoegaze phase this isn't an insult i stg
@alyctro8158
@alyctro8158 2 ай бұрын
these are old tips. The true problem isn't any of these. It's the source sound.
@Syklonus
@Syklonus 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a guitarist, and I love writing on guitar, but when it comes to recording then MIDI guitars are the best! No need to worry about dull strings, or faulty cables, and every take is perfect first time every time. Unless someone from a MIDI company comes to my door and says I'm not allowed to play guitar any more, then I don't see the issue? I think folk just like to gatekeep.
@rockboy360
@rockboy360 2 жыл бұрын
It's so much easier to just grab a guitar and play it, than spend hours mapping out shit and trying to humanize MIDI.
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 2 жыл бұрын
Facts, if you have a nice guitar, new strings, a setup, something that can tune that low etc. but a lot of people don’t have the luxury -Miami
@anhedonia0
@anhedonia0 2 жыл бұрын
Midi guitars sound fake because the samples are stretched.
@LittleRichard1988
@LittleRichard1988 28 күн бұрын
WIth most Kontakt libraries each note is actually an individual sample.
@umrasangus
@umrasangus 2 жыл бұрын
I feel metalcore is just getting more fake and industrialized by all these tools. Yes, it allows more people to create their art, but also most of metalcore musicians suck in their songwriting skills and all of them sounding the same doesn't help neither.
@r-kan
@r-kan Жыл бұрын
More breakdowns than brain cells.
@petealba707
@petealba707 2 жыл бұрын
Or hire a real session guitar player to record your part.
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 2 жыл бұрын
Ideally that’s the way to go -Miami
@marcmusic8301
@marcmusic8301 2 жыл бұрын
Using real guitar doesn't guarantee the song will blow up.
@petealba707
@petealba707 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcmusic8301 neither does using midi. It's about trying a different approach if something isn't working.
@marcmusic8301
@marcmusic8301 2 жыл бұрын
@@petealba707 save time and save cost. More efficient.
@petealba707
@petealba707 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcmusic8301 There are no guarantees in life- period. It's a risk-reward kind of world. Spending time and money is a risk and not a guarantee but I live by the philosophy no risk it, no biscuit. Much of what I hear from new songwriters sounds very safe which is boring to me.
@HeartDrumMachine
@HeartDrumMachine 2 жыл бұрын
Please make a video about Ukraine, it is so necessary now! Now our cities are being bombed, Ukrainians are dying.
@Liverpool-axeman
@Liverpool-axeman 11 ай бұрын
I would of subbed, but the shit you were doing around that mic and with your eyes was weird. Just keep it real brother.
@joeymusic
@joeymusic 11 ай бұрын
That’s all I’m doin out here fam. Love it or hate it I can only be myself, everyone else is already taken -Miami
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