Making Plastic Injection Molded Parts

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2 жыл бұрын

DIY Plastic Injection Molding at Home. I'm using my AB-150 injection molding machine, made by A.B. Plastic Injectors in Canada: www.abplasticinjectors.com/ab...
I have a number of molds 10 years ago for a model train kit called the Dolores Conoco Plant made in HO and S scales by Ragg's...To Riches: raggstoriches.biz/CONOCOPLANTs....
There lots of tricks to home/DIY injection molding, and it's not hard. Nor does it take a huge investment to get started. I made these molds with a Taig CNC machine (that I sold a few years ago).

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@abatter
@abatter 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for putting it out there. Plastic injection is fascinating and it's great to see it in a benchtop application.
@copperkerf3846
@copperkerf3846 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your attention to detail and best practices. Nice work.
@greisofaulim7471
@greisofaulim7471 2 жыл бұрын
Show seu trabalho!!!
@shanegonzales
@shanegonzales Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love trimming new parts from the tree.
@jonnyhifi
@jonnyhifi 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos John - I’ve learnt so much from you - thank you for sharing your experiences.
@robertmartin2936
@robertmartin2936 2 жыл бұрын
Great series
@lonnalachner7344
@lonnalachner7344 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jon for another informative video. Keep up the Solidwork
@pierrebouteillon
@pierrebouteillon 2 жыл бұрын
Very intersting to see you working in real time!
@wizrom3046
@wizrom3046 2 жыл бұрын
For a basic machine you have modded that and refined it to have a very respectable throughput. 🥇👍
@rayblankenship432
@rayblankenship432 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this video!!
@gustavoa4607
@gustavoa4607 2 жыл бұрын
Exelente video
@rhokdatroll
@rhokdatroll 2 жыл бұрын
Great video 😎
@bruno_lewin
@bruno_lewin 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see an injection molding video again
@JohnSL
@JohnSL 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bruno. I have more coming. I have been making molds, but unfortunately have not been able to show them.
@MrRustydawg
@MrRustydawg 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool . I enjoyed that video. Good work.
@nickp4793
@nickp4793 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job on organization and still having all the molds 10 years later:)
@JohnSL
@JohnSL 2 жыл бұрын
All of the molds I've made, and there are quite a few, fit into a single drawer. They're small.
@ruimilanesejunior2619
@ruimilanesejunior2619 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnSL you manufacture to order?
@larrykent196
@larrykent196 10 ай бұрын
Very interesting, thanks for the video. Cheer!
@David_11111
@David_11111 2 жыл бұрын
yay
@juanp.5364
@juanp.5364 11 ай бұрын
Dawn, I want to make custom toys. Amazing videos.
@eugene4154
@eugene4154 Жыл бұрын
Good practice is to leave the last office sample with the tool in its bag,as reference to what it is , then on a post it paper record your settings and last run qty add the material used to the list
@dnjmachine
@dnjmachine 2 жыл бұрын
Love the injection videos.
@JohnSL
@JohnSL 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@user-ep5pz5oe7l
@user-ep5pz5oe7l 2 жыл бұрын
Great ! As usual 🙌🏻
@JohnSL
@JohnSL 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again!
@TheRobsterUK
@TheRobsterUK 11 ай бұрын
Interesting, thanks :)
@astroclone
@astroclone 2 жыл бұрын
Nice shout out to within tolerance. That's how i found you.
@JohnSL
@JohnSL 2 жыл бұрын
I love that podcast. And thanks for coming over.
@hamidelmouden2048
@hamidelmouden2048 2 жыл бұрын
Great 👍
@DragonflyEngineering
@DragonflyEngineering 2 жыл бұрын
that's cool that you did some model railroad stuff. One day I hope to do the same. Nice video
@JohnSL
@JohnSL 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know you had an interest in that too! I'm happy to collaborate on a project if you're interested, as your machines are all larger than my largest machine.
@DragonflyEngineering
@DragonflyEngineering 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSL Hi John, yes a collaboration sounds fun. I'm thinking about using a HO train as a parts conveyor between work cells. Maybe we can come up with a hopper car that I can move molded parts on a track. 50 cars should be a good start. we can sell them too
@tukbuk2353
@tukbuk2353 2 жыл бұрын
I’m here after listening to within tolerance 140. Good content.
@JohnSL
@JohnSL 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@clypeum5063
@clypeum5063 2 жыл бұрын
Great looking parts, youve got a nice Setup there. I think that injection molding is slowly starting to make its way into the Diy and 3d printing industry. Im really looking Forward to make molds with SLA printers.
@JohnSL
@JohnSL 2 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking about doing a video on SLA inserts for injection molding, but haven't gotten around to it. If you have SLA printer and have something in mind, shoot me an email and we can collaborate.
@clypeum5063
@clypeum5063 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSL yeah, ive got a printer and have even Made some 'pallets' Out of Aluminium to hold a smaller SLA Insert. The only Problem i found is that cooling is an issue. Once i Figure It Out and get Something Worth watching i send you an e-mail. Greetings
@OscarGonzalez-qm9qw
@OscarGonzalez-qm9qw Жыл бұрын
niceee
@danielseman9324
@danielseman9324 Жыл бұрын
To keep that pin in the back of the mold. Take a larger ball bearing than the hole diameter. Put it on the back side of the mold and hit it with a hammer. This will swage the hole around the backside and push material in. The pin can then be press fit into the hole from the inside. That will capture it and keep you from having to worry about it.
@JohnSL
@JohnSL Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'm using removable Loctite these days to keep my pins in place. I've also switch to 1/4" pins, with a smaller hole drilled all the way through the back. That way if I need to, I can remove the pins and then do any required machining. So far I haven't needed to do that, but it takes very little extra time.
@jimmyhuesandthehouserocker1069
@jimmyhuesandthehouserocker1069 2 жыл бұрын
I'm looking to get started in doing what you're doing, if I can find out more in detail such as where to buy supplies. I want to make replacement playfield inserts to restore old pinball machines. If you're not familiar with pinball machines, they have plastic inserts, generally about an inch in diameter, lighted underneath with numbers, letters or arrows printed on top. The old ones become dished down, and the ball gets caught in them
@JohnSL
@JohnSL 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like that's a good fit for desktop machines. LNS and other companies sell small batches of plastic. So getting started feels intimidating, but it's actually not that bad as long as you're using simple desktop machines.
@jimstamper7062
@jimstamper7062 2 жыл бұрын
can i suggest a little adhesive to hold the pin in place? something that can be undone like Loctite or ca glue?
@kevinbarbour7649
@kevinbarbour7649 Жыл бұрын
Hi john, Have you ever tried making a three mold part, for like a cup for example?
@bigbird2100
@bigbird2100 2 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍 When adjusting air pressure will the moisture content of the material make forming and cavity filling any different.
@JohnSL
@JohnSL 2 жыл бұрын
There are many different factors that contribute the pressure, temperature, clamping force, etc. What I should do is keep track of the parameters I've used for each mold. I don't. I dial it in again each time, which means I "account for" all of those factors by trial and error.
@bigbird2100
@bigbird2100 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSL a description of every sort of process type of job that requires a human to adjust by experience 👍
@plasticman3952
@plasticman3952 2 жыл бұрын
Always vent the mold's cavities. Trapped air and Volatile gases in molten plastics need to be vented out ahead of melt flow. Plunger machines lack the necessary fill rate controls, so vents are advised.
@JohnSL
@JohnSL 2 жыл бұрын
I often add vents, but have found they're not always needed. I've been told that the surface roughness of the milled halves provides some venting.
@plasticman3952
@plasticman3952 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSL Slower injection fill rates will control burning and shorting problems. And since that's not possible with a plunger machine. Parting line vents are advised. Place them where at last section is filled. Rough surfaces foul quick and require constant cleaning. Venting gases can arc and damage cavity walls.
@Supramonk
@Supramonk Жыл бұрын
Did you build the machine? I am super curious we’re to get one
@billknighton4181
@billknighton4181 2 жыл бұрын
I’m trying to understand how the injection molding machine works. It looks like a pneumatic piston presses down into a cylinder that is on a sliding axis. Is the force of the piston acting through the plastic the only force that makes the injector press against the mold? Is it a ratio of the piston diameter to the diameter of the injector orifice that causes a tight seal? The force pressing the injector against the mold doesn’t seem like it would be anywhere near the force that is holding the mold halves together presumably it does not leak. What is the spring function? Is it to ensure the injector lifts off from the mold when the pneumatic piston is removed?
@JohnSL
@JohnSL 2 жыл бұрын
Hope this answers all your questions: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qap-ral8ptGbaZs.html
@burningdieselproduction5498
@burningdieselproduction5498 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting little injection machine. Is this a diy or purchased unit? Thanks for a nice video!
@JohnSL
@JohnSL 2 жыл бұрын
Details are in the video description as well. Here's a link: www.abplasticinjectors.com/ab-150
@ruimilanesejunior2619
@ruimilanesejunior2619 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnSL Out of curiosity, what price did you pay?
@antonkukoba3378
@antonkukoba3378 7 ай бұрын
Could you explain in one of your videos how the maximum molded part size is calculated. I.e. from this video it seems like this machine is only capable of making really small parts. But if for example I want to injection mold the parts that are like 60 mm wide but 30 mm tall. What will be the limiting factor in this case? Is it the mold which I wouldn't be able to use with this kind of the machine? Is it the plastic that is not going to fill in the whole mold due to it gets solid too quickly? Or maybe it's the insufficient pressure that wouldn't allow this machine to inject enough plastic to fill in the mold?
@germancarfan
@germancarfan 5 ай бұрын
Yes the pressure would be too low
@dancollins1012
@dancollins1012 2 жыл бұрын
For a given mold, is the right pressure (no flashing) constant over time? If so, the why not measure the ideal pressure and write it on the mold?
@JohnSL
@JohnSL 2 жыл бұрын
It's not for several reasons. One is the temperature of the mold. Another is the amount of plastic in the cylinder. As it increases in temperature, you need less pressure. But yes, keeping records would be a good idea for molds that I planned to run again. These molds have now been retired and I actually used a different machine previously to run these molds. So the settings would have been slightly different.
@plasticman3952
@plasticman3952 2 жыл бұрын
For future reference. It's always good practice to record and retain all cycle parameters that produce acceptable parts.
@AngelMorales-do1el
@AngelMorales-do1el 6 ай бұрын
Good day... excellent video, I loved your injector. I would love to know if you have a machine like the one in the video, the AB-150, for sale. I would love to quote the cost and if they ship to Mexico and how much the total cost would be with everything and shipping. sorry if something is written wrong
@pablorambo123
@pablorambo123 Жыл бұрын
What kind of price is the ab150? Thanks
@MrLolnovak
@MrLolnovak 2 жыл бұрын
How did you polish your moulds?
@JohnSL
@JohnSL 2 жыл бұрын
I don't. A mold maker for model train kits gave me a suggestion a long time ago--let the machine do the work. So I use small step-overs with small end mills. The tool marks therefore don't show up in the part.
@dass1333
@dass1333 2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see a catalog of part \ models you have worked on. Do you have a train? Or two? With your talents any thing is makable.
@JohnSL
@JohnSL 2 жыл бұрын
I could do a video about that. I've probably made 30 or more molds in the past 10 years. What in particular are you interested in seeing/learning? As to trains, I picked up the hobby because I was stressed at work (I'm not anymore) and needed something to get my mind off it. Fairly quickly I discovered I loved to design and create projects, and along the way decided I really wanted to be able to make my own injection molded products. So no, I don't have a train layout.
@dass1333
@dass1333 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSL I don't have any particular interest in model trains, I do think they are interesting and have tried some other people's set ups. I even built a bridge for one just to test myself. Was just thinking it could shine some light on the hobby. If you have your table full of projects keep with them. I find every video you make is interesting even if it is out of my field of interest. Methods and creativity!
@ruimilanesejunior2619
@ruimilanesejunior2619 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnSL Veryy goodd
@kallyanolekar5061
@kallyanolekar5061 4 ай бұрын
Hi sir
@Emanuelmartins69
@Emanuelmartins69 Жыл бұрын
I want to do a project and make miniatures of characters for gaming (like for dnd and warhammer) using HIPS. I wonder why the molds only last about a hundred castings. What should I know to get a really good precise mold for detailed miniatures?
@JohnSL
@JohnSL Жыл бұрын
When you say the molds only last a hundred castings, are these 3D printed molds? I have another video on that topic. I'm not sure what you're asking about precise molds. Generally it requires a good 3D model and then someone who can machine the molds--assuming you don't have any undercuts.
@Emanuelmartins69
@Emanuelmartins69 Жыл бұрын
​@@JohnSL From what I understood from the start your video, is that aluminum molds can make parts around the hundreds, so I wondered how many pieces a mold could make.. So an aluminium mold could go on indefintely? Im not really interested in 3D printed molds, ive seen that they just cant wisthand any production... Regarding precision, I met with a friend, who has a CNC that was used to make aluminum molds for shoe soles, and I wonder what I should look for in a CNC to be able to machine molds for injection of high impact polystyrene for detailed figures character kits, and start a business creating these plastic model figures. I'm trying to find out how to have figures of similar quality to what Gamesworkshop manages to do, so i question myself how precise must the machine be to achieve this result. I have seen quite a few of your videos and they added much knowledge to me already, thanks a lot! Got curious about what injector machine I should get to start this business, now that I know that there is the possibility of machines that eject the parts automatically.
@JohnSL
@JohnSL Жыл бұрын
Aluminum molds can often produce 10K to 100K parts before they start to wear. In my case, the parts I wanted to make didn't have much demand--on the order of hundreds of parts. So it was about demand, rather than the life of the mold. For miniatures, there is low-temperature injection molding process that uses rubber molds: www.siocast.com/siocast-for-miniatures/. While their machines are expensive, there are some companies who own their machines and will make molds and parts for other companies. Here is one company I've heard of that offers this as a service: zealotminiatures.com/injection-moulding/. One advantage of this technology is that it allows for some undercut. Additionally, you don't need to design a mold with a very complicated parting line, as would be required for a metal mold for miniatures. If you don't absolutely have to use HIPS, this is a much lower-cost way to get started.
@Emanuelmartins69
@Emanuelmartins69 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnSL the whole proprietary plastic/resin from siocast, and the fact that the material doesn’t work with tipical plastic glue is a big turn down strategically for my vision of business. I’d rather use other materials such as pewter or even highgrade 3D printing than their solution. The undercut limitation doesn’t imideately bothers me. The costs for starting the business is something that I’ll have to account for, and the most important cost that I just can’t find is how much the metal molds would cost…
@Backonthehitch
@Backonthehitch 2 жыл бұрын
Hi John what type of plastic did use for this job?
@JohnSL
@JohnSL 2 жыл бұрын
Polystyrene, which is the standard for most model kits as it's easy to glue and you don't need something like ABS.
@littlewingpsc27
@littlewingpsc27 Жыл бұрын
So did you design your own parts in a CAD tool then make your own molds? Are there companies that make molds for hobby use / small scale production, or is it something you need to do on your own to be cost competative?
@JohnSL
@JohnSL Жыл бұрын
Yes, I did all the work: CAD, CAM, machining, and injection molding. Most of these were parts I wanted to make and were not profitable, as the volumes were very low. But they were fun to make. Doing this for yourself isn't really cost effective unless you sell at least several hundred and can charge enough.
@ruimilanesejunior2619
@ruimilanesejunior2619 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnSL You can send your e-mail?
@David_11111
@David_11111 2 жыл бұрын
You say sometimes it sticks in both half's What is the plan to stop this happening on future Moulds ?
@JohnSL
@JohnSL 2 жыл бұрын
For molds like these, it really isn't that much of a problem, so I don't worry about it. Where it will matter is when I get to automatic molds. And in those cases, there are tricks you can use to get it to stick more to one side.
@bitsurfer0101
@bitsurfer0101 2 жыл бұрын
Where do you buy your pellets?
@JohnSL
@JohnSL 2 жыл бұрын
It depends on the material. The polystyrene pellets I purchased from Tichy Train Group. He doesn't advertise that, so I'm not sure if he's still doing that. Generally it's hard to buy less than about 55 pounds of pellets of a single type and color. So I buy 3D printer filament and then use a chopper from an earlier video to chop the filament into pellets. Yes, that might be a little more expensive. But not that much, and I can get a lot more variety of pellets that way. This works as long as the plastic you want is available in a filament roll.
@JurassicLures
@JurassicLures Жыл бұрын
The cylinder that presses the mold, how many kilograms does the clamp hold?
@JohnSL
@JohnSL Жыл бұрын
I believe it's 2 tons (imperial).
@JurassicLures
@JurassicLures Жыл бұрын
@@JohnSL can you tell me what model it is?
@PascalScheffers
@PascalScheffers 2 жыл бұрын
Do the moulds get hot at all?
@JohnJones-oy3md
@JohnJones-oy3md 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Wondering if the metal soaking up the heat necessitates continual tweaking of parameters.
@VagabondTE
@VagabondTE 2 жыл бұрын
From what I heard molds get warm, but that's a good thing. Molds work better when they're warmed up so you only need to do it at first and then they stay that way once you have a rhythm.
@JohnSL
@JohnSL 2 жыл бұрын
Eventually. The more plastic being injected into a mold, the faster it heats up. These molds have so little plastic that it would take a very long time (probably hours) before they got too warm to hold. But yes, as molds heat up, the plastic flows more freely, and therefore requires less injection pressure. It's actually a good idea to heat molds that have lots of details, but the aluminum dissipates the heat very quickly, so pre-heating the molds doesn't actually help that much.
@tomluque
@tomluque Жыл бұрын
Would you provide quotes to make these small molds and/or do the printing of parts for me? I'm in the state of Washington.
@JohnSL
@JohnSL Жыл бұрын
Yes, I do make molds for other people as well as parts. You can contact me by click on the About section of my KZfaq page and then there is a button that will show my email address. I'm located on the East side (Seattle area).
@tomluque
@tomluque Жыл бұрын
I could not find the "About section" on your KZfaq page
@JohnSL
@JohnSL Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.infoabout
@tomluque
@tomluque Жыл бұрын
I'm concerned about who I can find to make a mold for me before looking at Injection molding as a Hobby. I use 3D CAD that produces STL files for my FMD printers. I'm looking to make 100 pieces per year with the mold.
@truckimthanh3280
@truckimthanh3280 2 жыл бұрын
Hello cho hỏi máy này giá bao nhiêu
@JohnSL
@JohnSL 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know, as I purchased mine used. You'll need to contact A.B. Machinery: www.abplasticinjectors.com/ab-150
@bobweiram6321
@bobweiram6321 2 жыл бұрын
$3K for that tiny, feckless TAIG mill probably made out of stock cutoffs in somebody's garage? That's a down payment on a nice used Haas. LOL!
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