I think we get so caught up in the numbers that we fail to realize that 485 or 500 horsepower is still a a lot of power The hardest thing to remember is once you get up there in power it all becomes about how deep is your pockets. Don’t go broke trying to be that guy.

If we could Travel in time and go back to 1980 1990 2000 ,and Bring a scatpack ,Every gearhead would have to have it.Nowadays in the Hellcat Era lol, alot of people dont realize How impressive a NA 392 car really is.

I’m just here with my RT trying to keep up with these 392s😅🤣

You have given me more information on what to do to my 2017 Daytona 392 than any other the other you tubers combined. Very informative and I thank you for making these awesome videos

coming from a 5.7 and purchasing a 6.4 this past august i tell ya it's night and day and i'm so glad the 6.4 appeased my appetite enough to not have a desire for wanting a hellcat for daily driving, the 6.4 is the sweet spot in my opinion... most of these guys getting into these performance vehicles aren’t even real muscle car heads.. they tend to be one uppers....btw thanks for the great content..i can listen to you and B.Mason all day...lol

But the Scatpack is no slouch. It's a blast to drive and a great platform to get your feet wet in the world of musclecars and drag racing. Plus super affordable. But I do agree ---- If you want Hellcat fast, buy a Hellcat.

Perfect point! I bought a scatpack charger because I wanted to have a little fun. Now that I’m use to the power I want to have hellcat fun 😂 but I think I’m perfectly fine with a scatpack.

Great video thank you, I am in the deciding phase of which motor to buy and you just solved it. One big thing is you pay more for the Hellcat but you keep your factory warranty and that huge.

I chose to put a magnuson on my 392 it was 7150 for the kit and I added some extra doo dads like the gauge pod and Autometer Procomp Boost and AFR gauges. I'm not making HC numbers, I am running a safe 6lbs of boost and I did the install myself. 6lbs on a 392 is good for 540 at the wheels give or take a few ponies. My goal wasn't going after HC's. My car is paid for and I love it I love the color which hasn't ever been offered but one time. So for me to get a hundred plus horse more than stock it was totally worth it. But yes if you are going to chase after HC numbers then you are going to essentially spend the difference in price between a Scat Pack and an HC to do it right. You will likely also need to swap out the half shafts ($1400) the driveshaft ($900) and at some point you may grenade the rear diff. The HC really is a bargain for what it brings to the table bone stock. Fantastic video great breakdown!

first time watching one of youre videos. perfect delivery of information. thank you

That was an eye opener, very informative videos also. Keep up the good work

Really enjoy your videos. You seem to always post things that everyone is thinking about.

Always like and appreciate your videos, I went from a 71 Roadrunner to a 2018 Daytona the technology is all new to me I did hear a lot of people, everybody’s different say a 6.4 I could handle 5 to 6 pounds of boost without doing anything else I’m not looking to compete with a hellcat but I would like to get close to 600 hp like everybody says if you want to go as fast is a hellcat by a hellcat I just wanna get out of the 485 and get close to 600 yes I do have a lot of fun with my octane red pearcoat Daytona

Bottom Line: You want Hellcat fast...buy a Hellcat!!

I know this video is almost 2 years old however it’s not completely up to date any longer. A liquid cooled supercharger, long tube headers, upgraded fuel pump, tune and e85 will net you more rwhp to the tune of 740 hp +/- on the 6.4 with all stock internals and stock transmission than a hellcat. The total price to do all that is alot cheaper than buying the hellcat stock.

Really interesting video. Enjoyed watching this one as I did the rest of them. 🔥🔥💯✊🏾

Man you already smash things on the road and you look great doing it. I say take it for what it is and just worry about making it look like your own and no need to worry about making it that much faster. Lol I don’t have one but my dream car is a 2015 scat pack challenger.

Good video as always bro. I'am officially a part of the "Brotherhood of Muscle". Just yesterday i got a 2020 charger scatpack widebody! The car is amazing and im truly impressed with everything about it. This is my first dodge and i truly feel i made the right choice. I wanted a hellcat but it just wasn't in the books for me.

Good commentary on chasing the numbers game. Reliably. Many owners either don’t know the risk of adding a blower to blowing up pistons, and why that happens. Or they do it anyway. 5.7’s and 6.1’s are better at tolerating boost than scats. Scats are great cars. Almost traded my 5.7 in 4 years ago for one. Decided to send my kid to private school instead. And modded my 5.7 🙂 too.

I have 2020 scat pack and 2018 RT your info very helpful

always great content we appreciate the fact that you post consistently also

That twin turbo hellion nice made 700hp on 8psi

after driving a scatpack, i absolutely LOVE them! scatpacks are very popular where i live. we love them here lol

So you're saying there's a chance 🤣

Just what ive been trying to find....u did exactly what my question was....thanks...awesome video

Another great video by Racer X thank you bro. I'm happy with my scatpack I used to have SRT8 first generation but I just got a Scat Pack last year so I've had it about a year now and I agree with you I enjoy it for what it is but now I think in the next 2 years I will get a Wire by the Scat Pack just don't see the need to get a Hellcat just for me

I did the math last year and traded my scatpack for a Hellcat and ran a 10.8 with just a tire couldn’t be more pleased. Also let’s not forget that the modded scatpack has no warranty and the Hellcat does

Love your content. You're the best modern Mopar KZfaq artist.

Good video! Like to see a video of how you prep the skat for the dragstrip! Awesome videos like usual! Keep them coming...🏁💯💰👍

Thanks for making this video! Myself and others have been trying to educate the community about this very topic. Some people are visual learners and now we have a nice resource, for our fellow "Future Mopar Brand Ambassadors". Well done RacerX!

Very informative video. Keep up the good work

I love vids like this. I’m planning on building my RT to become a hellcat killer. First step I’m taking is stroking it to a 392, doing that right now

With better suspension and weight reduction in a scatpack i believe would be fun to drive it,maybe not as fast a a hellcat but definitely a nice option .Mopar =💪😊

I tell people in my club: "You can spend 10-20k+ and push an extra 150hp on a 6.4L, or you can trade in your Scat for a Hellcat for an extra 10-15k and get a 3 year warranty"

Oh yeah man i agree and infact you were a bit easy about it many other points have to be beefed up like drive shaft and suspention making it more expencive than that when the total package comes in the hellcat ready to rock. Good video as always man!

Getting my 2018 TA Thursday and I’m pretty happy with it

Love the channel can’t wait to upgrade my Scatpack but like y’all said get a Hellcat ✌🏽

Informative and no BS assessment video. I think the best advice is to throw a tune on it and maybe an exhaust and just enjoy it. If you want big power start off w a Hellcat. I ❤️ my Scat for what it is....👍🏻 Get that Corsa yet Mr. X ? 😝

I bought a 2019 1320 last summer, raced it about 10 times with a best of 11.8. I wanted to go faster. I looked into adding a SC.....most shops were around $12k for a SC, headers, bigger fuel injectors and etc. So, I went went Hellcat shopping. I was able to trade my 1320 in on a 15 Hellcat with 10k miles on it. The deal was my 1320 plus $11,800 out the door for the Hellcat. Very happy with my decision.

awesome video, I think a cam/lifters, some type of forced induction on low boost and a solid tune, would really make people happy with their 392.

My local performance shop is awesome, but very expensive. It's not just a bolt on and go, you need to change other components., like HP 70 to HP 90, etc. I'm a fan of just being satisfied with what you've got, better to trade up instead of modding IMO, or keep the 392 unmolested and pay it off, and add a Hellcat to your fleet later. My Scat on a stock tune has plenty of power for the street and the dragstrip, though I don't race. But, good content Racer X.

Picking up my Scat tomorrow hoping to enjoy it to its fullest for what it is won't be my daily my ole Ho is but for the occasional enjoyment absolutely working OT for the last 7 years I'd figure i would reward myself finally

Great advice here. Dodge developed these trims in such a way that you cant easily/cheaply “level up”. Modding is fun and theres a sense of pride in building something, but Dodge offers factory platforms for different buyers. Its one thing to build an older car or one that doesnt offer a more powerful factory option, but these newer Mopars have you covered.

Great stuff and I agree. You might as well buy a Hellcat. I own a 6.4 and it is a dream…she’s around 520 but our next purchase is the Redeye or Trackhawk to build on that 700 plus HPs. I am leaning towards the Trackhawk💪🏾💪🏾easier to get to those Demon and Super Stock numbers

Great vid! Thx for info✌

You for got. You can get a hellcat engine and transmission from a wrecking yard with low miles for about $14000 - $16000.

pretty glad to see someone with credibility ( You're a race-car Hellcat Owner as well as Scatpack Owner ). Personally I own a 11 GT500 so when I speak on Hemis people take it with a grain of salt . There's to many people out there thinking they can buy a 6.4 and eventually compete with Hellcats but fail to realize by the time that is the case , you might as well have purchased a new/pre owned hellcat WITH factory warranty still active . Should something fail take it to dodge and call it a day

See this has been my issue. I get caught up in the numbers. Ive been wanting a hellcat so bad because of the numbers, but havent had a way to justify all of that money it takes to own and drive one. I think I'm going to get a scatpack and like you said, "enjoy it for what it is" and be happy. An almost 500hp car is more than enough.

I’m loving my 2020 Scat Pack wide body - get complements everywhere I go

Hey man I don’t think your every going to see this. But I’m glad you can put a supercharger in a scat pack and I seen one at a dealership for 10k where the body is in good condition but I think under the hood needs work. Appreciate the video and to know what I’m expecting

Thanks for the info bro!! 🤛🏼

Had a ball with my Scats and never thought about putting a blower on them. They are fun n/a cars as they come from the factory.

Awesome info. Thanx.

Just got 6.5 liter 395 stroker engine to put in my Durango I should be happy with that. Although with the fully forged internals I could throw boost on it with a few extra mods, but I think I’m going to keep it naturally aspirated.

Been following Jannetty Racing on FB, he's currently R&D a 2019 widebody scat running the Hellion twin turbo setup at 5lb boost achieve 645 hp with injector upgrade. It's a very interesting build series.

Another great video 👌

Just bought a 2021 scatpack WB, Pitch Black, standard trans, fully loaded. It is awesome, I love shifting gears manually and watching those rpm’s rise. 6.4L scatpack sounds awesome, no need for headers. I could have bought the Hellcat, they had a white one at the dealership, but what am I going to do with a Hellcat? I don’t plan on going to a track to race, I’m not even into that. So, I have an awesome looking WB Challenger that’s satisfying in every way. Plus, I get A LOT of looks from Mustang, Camaro owners just wishing they had this beast of a car!!!

Think you for that it really helped me out

Awesome video. For the busted knuckle community, here are some thoughts. Get a manual car, same Tremec as in Hellcat. Upgrade clutch, save $4k. Save labor costs and install everything yourself, assuming the MMX drop-in kit is $3k, another $4950 in savings. Looking at close to $14k for a reliable, supercharged car 😎 and the sweat equity and badge of honor to go with it. Oh, and pitch black paint adds another 50 horsepower, duh.

Another great vid Racer X!....Keep 'em coming!....My take....You want Hellcat power.....You need Hellcat money.....Enjoy your Scatpacks guys.... They're affordable dynamite pkgs that give a lot of enjoyment for muscle heads....Lot of bang for the buck!

You nailed it. Cost outweighs the outcome. Still with weaker axle shafts, non adjustable suspension, list goes on.....

The problem I see if you are going the Scat Pack route and upgrading the power is if you ever decide to sell the thing, good luck in recouping even 25% of your upgrades, unless you just find the perfect buyer. Trade it for a Hellcat and at least it will hold it's value better. If you never decide to ever sell your franken-scat then I guess it doesn't matter. RacerX, I like your REALISTIC approach to things :) I have a 2012 GT500 making 700RWHP, been down the endless rabbit hole of $ to do it properly.

Great Post X .... i've been getting quotes this week for Whipple 2.9 for my 6.1 SRT8. Daily driver not trying to get to a Hellcat 707 hps.... 4 shop estimates around 150hp on 6lbs of boost! Price...... $9300 cheapest > $11,500 most expensive! I'm getting done sometime this year.

Well X you're 100% right I think if you're a scatpack guy a few simple bolt ons run the car hi 11 second which if you compare it to the muscle cars of the 70s it's an awesome car. By the way for sure I thought you were going to get a red eye but I got to tell you I do like the new Corvette and I wish you lots of luck with it I saw you have a few haters in the comments. But what they don't get is you subscribe to the person not the car. And you are an awesome person and an awesome drag racer. So no matter what you drive I'll be here with my lengthy comments.

Ive got a scat pack with a built motor and triple pump fuel system on e85 and i make a bout 765whp on the stock trans for over 4 years. I dont track the car but i roll race alot. Admittedly i should have gone with the hellcat but this all kinda snowballed over time but im glad i did it.

I liked this video after listening and learning. It seems like it's worth doing the basic modifications to a scat pack And honestly I'd be happy with it maybe do 1 of the exspencive modifications but that's about it

Awesome video. After you broke it down. I looked up just buying a crate hellcat engine which is 16k. I think that's probably the cheapest way to do it. Still expensive though I'm happy with my 18 charger scat pack

I was recently looking to trade in my 2015 5.7 charger for a cheap low-mile base Hellcat, or at least a package-endowed Scatpack, and I ended up with the Scatpack. I've had it for 5 months so far, and I love my Scatpack for what it is, straight up. I loved the Hellcat speed, the supercharger whine, but theirs a mortality factor to it.. for some people, and to any wrecked Hellcat owners, just know some cars are fast enough..it's bittersweet.

next video: How to make a SXT as fast as a Demon😂

I've been wanting to see one of these 6.4s with a twin torque storm set up...I think it b interesting

Hey racer x great content!! If you were to order a 2023 scat pack would you get the shaker hood again or would you go with the standard one with 3 vents. Thanks alot for your feedback!😊

Good info .. thank you

I just purchased a 2021 Challenger R/T SRT Scat Pack Widebody w/A8 trans and I am interested in more performance but not necessarily Hellcat power. My 2011 Challenger was making right at 500 hp at the crank.

You've also got the rear end to beef up. Drive shaft etc

I would just keep the Scat Naturally aspirated. I think that’s the beauty of it. Throw some Bolt ons and let the Beautiful sound of that N/A engine Scream. If you want more power then just go used Hellcat from the jump. I just love the feel of how you got to work for your power rather just having it given with the scat.

A couple of videos ago you demonstrated that the Scat Pack was a few tenths slower then the hellcat, on the street. To make up a tenth or two, how about re-reading the rearend, install drag rear suspension, and dot slicks? That's way you're close and many thousands left over to maybe swap to E85 fuel system.

I have a 2015 Dodge Challenger SRT 6.4 whipple 2.9L supercharger, kooks long tube headers, kooks mid pipe with hi flow cats, and borla atak catback exhaust. The supercharger, headers, and mid pipe. dyno tuned for 93 octane. The tune was a conservative tune set a 7 psi and yielded 610 rwhp and 596 lbs of torque. The rear cradle bushings were replaced with Whiteline polyester bushings. The rear torsion, A arms, and sway bar end links were replaced. The front sway bar end links were replaced. My question is do I need to drop forged drop in pistons, forged connecting rods, rod bearings, Cometic head gaskets, and ARP head bolts. If I'm just pushing 7PSI? I'm not looking at taking it to the track just to cruise around. I had supercharger on for the past 20k miles already

What do you think about MMX hellcat supercharger adapter for 6.4? I’m thinking about going that route but there isn’t much videos about it.

I run on the street and have a little over 5 to the wheels...Haven't been beat by a Hellcat yet... Consistent 3.5 0-60 and 7.4 8ths on the street.. 17s, headers, cam , TB and demon springs...

I'm curious I'm doing a 392 swap with long tube headers and a red eye hellcat cam a Cai and a 180 thermostat do you think that cam will make a difference for now ? I'm looking to do hellion turbos in a year or so that's y I'm trying to go with the cam ? Thanks for the advice 🙏

Keep up what you doing bro

I had a 2016 Scat Pack and ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT!!!! I then decided I wanted to go a a lot faster. I put all what I thought were the necessary mods to make it fast AND reliable......I quickly realized a Hellcat was cheaper. Hence I now own a 2019 Hellcat CHallenger. I did run 11.38 @ 121 with the Scat Pack with basic easy to do mods.

I love the Challenger, I've been wanting one since it came back. Right now there's a black 392 6spd at my dealership ($28k w/ 43k miles). I'd jump on it but with everything going with the virus, I might have to wait a few months.

Great video! Another choice is the Hellion twin turbo

What part of TX u out of I'd love to see y'all race in person I have a Durango I race too with a 5.7...

One of my club members have a 392 daytona with twin helion turbos made 960 whp and 1080 tq 😱😱

I agree with you with the type of money might as well get a hell cat

You're the reason I don't ever finish my homework hahaha

Would you be able to run a Turbo or centrifugal supercharger with the shaker hood?

Maggasion (Maggie) is official dodge dealer recommended supercharge kit for 6.4 392. Maggie it's perfect and very secured for the engine life. And yall know 6.4 it's faster then 6.2 hellcat for the first 3 gears. Keep it real 🤘 Motley Crue approved

All you need is a nitrous kit and fuel pump. Nitrous will supply its own tune. Also need colder spark plugs. Start with a small jet and slowly add more power. You can also keep the factory warranty if removed before service.

If he only knew how many dreams have been crushed he would take this vid down.. Great vid btw.

I’m about to procharge my challenger scat with long tubes and a custom cam already installed. Everything I’m researching says with 6 pounds of boost I can stick with stock internals and be pretty much right there with the hellcat, for another 2500 I can add drop in internals and do even more boost and be able to take a hellcat. Not sure about all this transmission talk but I also have a manual so maybe it can take more of a beating than the auto.

Only thing that got overlooked on this video is the new hellion twin turbo bolt on kit for the 6.4. It gets you in hellcat range or better for about 8-10 grand parts and labor

You should do a vid of the best upgrades to reach the full potential and get the most out of the scat packs engine

I know everyone wants power through simple modification which is understandable. But Ive never seen anyone gutting their engine, putting a larger crank in the engine, putting a larger ported cylinder head, larger intake runners, basically building the engine from the inside out. I know they must sell some kind of stroker kit for a 6.4 that can handle boost. I enjoy seeing built late model muscle cars, but they’re all built in a similar fashion. What makes ones car stand out above the rest? You have x tune with x cold air intake and x super charger. Well so does the guy 4 cars over just with a different paint job. I know it’s much more easier to go out drop the cash to buy a hellcat or any other higher performance late model car than it is building your own. I personally stick to the old school type of methods and style, build it from the inside out. All in all that’s my 2 cents. I truly enjoy watching your videos racerX and I’ll always be a huge fan and support of your channel, hopefully one day I cross paths with you here in DFW and finally be able to meet you!

Curious....would I have to change the trans in my 1320 scat?

I just save big for this video. I watched it while the dealership seller printed and orginzed the paperwork for a S/P lease. I’m at the parking now about to leave. I’ll be hunting for an used Hellcat now. 🤣🤣🤣

I'm having a lot of fun with my 5.7 challenger. I do plan to install a Magnuson supercharger next year. They claim 125whp increase. Honestly, 50whp increase would be huge in a car that gives mildly modified ricers fits stock. That and my challenger is already the quickest, and fastest car I've ever owned. I had a 1973 dodge charger 340 magnum back in the day that was a complete dog. Heavy and probably made 220whp max. The 1973 charger was a gorgeous car that I wish I still had, not a scratch on the paint and it was perfect. Today that car would be worth double what my challenger is worth. Still a gutless dog.... lol for you guys and gals who never experienced the original mopars. These modern cars are so much nicer in every aspect. I bought my R/T on an impulse without any research. Hindsight I should have bought a scat pack but im fine with my car. An entry level 6 pounds of boost supercharger will make my car everything I want. I'd just go to jail in a hellcat....🤣

I just bought a 2016 challenger rt plus yesterday so I'm new to these cars. Is there a hellcat challenger or is it just the charger?