Agreed it’s a new platform, high power go for it tool set! X18 will back off a little, I’m sure. But here in the states there have been Heaps of promos given you 2 xtra 5.0’s for the sale price. Giving me an unbelievable backup with 4 sets of x36 tools.

As I explained to the Makita rep recently, if I want a bigger tool there is nothing stopping me from going to Dewalt. You hit the nail on the head "It's a completely different tool"

Im running Makita 18v as my main platform, and will be for the foreseeable future. Im running Hikoki Multivolt as my secondary, for a number of reasons: Makita still dont have a battery only framing nailer, the Hikoki recip with orbital action (I do a lot of fixed price demo, so it really makes me money, im already on my second unit after dropping the first one from a two story roof) and the AC/DC adapter for my miter and table saws. I still wish Hikoki would make a 12" MV miter saw.

I've never thought of it as a completely new platform very good point of view on it, but I've recently moved about 80% of my gear to Hikoki MV from Makita 18v once I found out XGT won't be backwards compatible because I really like how Hikoki have made the move to a higher power platform maybe I'm completely wrong and XGT wipes the floor with Hikoki 36v but I just feel like Hikoki is a better choice for myself moving forward, but I have a new perspective on XGT Thanks. love the videos fellas :)

The reality is more voltage is better for the batteries. It places a little less demand on the cells as more amperage wears the capacity of the cells down quicker. The 2.5 battery is great for the smaller tools like the impact whilst the 4amp is great for the more juicy tools as these Samsung 40T 21700 cells can put out 35amps per cell sustained vs 25amps per cell sustained on the Samsung 25R 18650's. You've done a great job on this guys and explained why the platform may make sense for original 18v Makita users as well as being better off getting a kit as opposed to single tools as prices will be high within the first year. The reality is that the 21700 batteries have less internal resistance more power per cell and can really improve the tools potential power draw with more powerful motors. It is necessary for manufacturers to switch from the smaller 18650's to these cells in the best way they see fit. Cracking vid and a thumbs up.

Some really good chat there about the issue of non backwards compatibility. The problem Makita now face is, if you see the new 40v line as choosing a new platform, you could also decide to choose a different platform, and this is EXACTLY what I have done. I run all my 18v tools on the Makita platform, and think they are fantastic tools with a large range to choose from and excellent for most of my carpentry tasks. HOWEVER, I have always believed that no 1 tool manufacturer produces all the best tools, and so have tools from different manufactures that I feel do a better job. This is the case with a few DeWalt 18v tools which I have not bought due to being on the Makita 18v platform. Back to the point. I wanted a more powerful 190mm circular saw than the 2x18v Makita, and rather than move to the new Makita 40v saw and battery platform, I have moved to the DeWalt 54v platform. What this has now done due to DeWalts Flexvolt backwards compatibility, has allowed me to buy a couple of 18v DeWalt tools that I have always thought were superior to the Makita equivalent. (the DCN660 nail gun for starters). Your video is great and you clearly show that you have a fantastic understanding of the potential issues Makita could face by bringing out a new range of batteries that are not backwards compatible, BUT, it did feel a little like you were trying to convince yourselves of something that you weren't quite sure of, and of course, the elephant in the room was, 'other brands high voltage batteries', backwards compatibility.(not sure if other brands are as well). Great video fellas. Cheers.

I'm thinking of having these for a personal back up kit at work. I have Milwaukee tools now as the main as they have everything under the sun.

The MO is great! hahaha great review!

Its hard enough settling on one brand let alone different platforms within a brand, but evolution is inevitable. A backwards compatible charger would be a good start. Thanks fellas!

I have a lot of Dewalt, Milwaukee, 2 18/36/volt Makita saws. I just bought the Makita 40v hammer drill/impact driver combo and received it 2 days ago and they are amazing and comfortable to use. After using them I’m planning on selling all of my Dewalt tools and replacing them with Makita 40v. Most of my Dewalt tools are only a year or two old gently used. I’m mostly invested and use Milwaukee, but it seems that Makita 40v might be a game changer.

Sales drives the market. And seems like XGT is meant to overtake LXT in the longer run.

The reason we use max voltage ratings a lot in the U.S. is because of certain patents that influence naming.

For what it's worth I just read on Makita's website that the main goal/concept of the XGT series is to be a wireless alternative to (traditionally) corded power-tools.

When milwaukee released there mx fuel range there was no complaints about compatibility with there 18v tools, i believe the future 40v x2 range is where this platform will prove its merit when you can have a demosaw, jackhammer etc that runs on the same batteries as your drill and impact driver

In my opinion, the problem with the both Makita XGT and the Hikoki/MetaboHPT Multivolt platforms is that you kinda need the 2.5Ah batteries for the drill and impact driver. Using them with the larger 4.0Ah batteries with 21700 cells just throws off the balance. I'm running Multivolt as my secondary , as stated before, and I have tried my boss' XGT impact driver. I Bought the drill and impact as kits from ebay, and probably wont really be using them, as they came cheaper to buy just for batteries. I have a DTD171 as my main impact driver, and been using the MV triple hammer as loaner units for these 16-18 year old school boys that come from trade schools as trainees, with the single 2.5Ah battery I have, i just like the Makita better. So, in summary, you kinda need two of the smaller batteries as well, if you are running either XGT or MV as your main platform.

I have had Makita for around 8 years and then over the last 2 years started to get a bunch of DeWalt flexvolt tools, I've got to say I love having the really powerful flexvolt tools but I've got the option to get any other dewalt tool and use my flexvolt batteries on them. Makita 18v is pretty decent but a little under powered at times. The xgt just doesn't make much sense to me, not being backwards compatible seems crazy. It is as if you've completely changed brand/platform. Might as well switch to something like DeWalt with a bigger range.

Please, make detail video about XGT battery, charger and LXT charging adapter.

Interesting way of looking at it. When i first heard of this line and it might well of been from one of your insta posts i did. I was like, i swear if makita ditches the 18v il be pissed. Very heavily invested in that line with everything from the sub compact drills and impacts right upto a 18x2 9" grinder, 7 1/4 circ and just recently a mower. Prob got about 50 odd batteries as well. I think too part of the reason Makita have gone this route is because with so many tools and quite a few tools that have the batteries encased inside the tool or side by side etc simply making larger batteries was going to be a massive compatibility issue. It was confusing enough back when they replaced their first gen 18v LXT batteries and brought out the stole STAR and yellow plate thing and some newer batteries wouldn't work on some older tools and the first chargers wouldn't work etc. So its easier to just have an entirely new battery than be like. This new 18v XL battery will fit on this this this but not that that that etc. The whole 40v max name just irks me tho. Technically its anywhere from 42v (right off the charger full charge) down to about 30v at low voltage cut off. My gut feeling however is Makita used that name to separate it from the 18x2 36v and also they did have a short lived 36v single battery that was only ever used on a few OPE tools before the 18x2 came out. With regards to the grinder definitely looks like a decent tool. I will prob never guy one as my 18v one does 95% of what i need it to with the 9" 18x2 doing the other 5%. And i 100% agree that guards on grinders that are a pain to adjust are just stupid. And IMO dangerous, because im guilty of ripping the guard off on past grinders because it was just too annoying. Oh and the fact it doesn't make coffee? Well Mike will never like it then XD

Watched lots of reviews on new 40v range including drill and impact. General consensus good but not that much better than 18v range and in tests not as powerful as some other brands with 36 or 54v models. One thing being a Makita it will feel right. Best ergonomic tools on the market. One of the few brands that still stand alone and it shows. Good quality and priced in line with their main competitors. Dear but not stupidly so like my pet hate Festool. Would I pay the premium to jump up to a 40v platform Makita. Probably not. But then I already run four different brands one more wouldn't hurt.

I was not sold on the idea of a completely new platform; having only ever owned makita and occasionally used the in-laws Milwaukee tools I was always disappointed with makita not having a heavy duty platform, however, after purchasing the XGT I could not be happier with the tools they are truly on a different level - they don’t feel like makita tools they’re not just way more powerful but they are much more refined. Does anyone know when the xgt x2 tools will be released??

I remember you reviewed the Bosch grinder. You said that it was advertised as 1000w, but you reconned it was less. How does the makita stack up against it?

I think there is more to talk about in terms of the new battery platform For example, what does the user in favor of xgt have to say about the user in the 18v/18vx2 lines who says something like "why can't we just get 21700 cells in our 18v batteries when the tool has the space for the larger celled battery"? My biggest concern with the line is the lack of backwards compatibility. Sure it needs to be looked at as a completely separate platform but the average tool user is unlikely to see it that way. I view Flexvolt and Multivolt as a whole separate platform. While they might not be 100% backwards compatible, they are at least halfway backwards compatible which is better than no compatibility.

A bit late to the discussion but I think there are a few points to add. 1~ Makita has made changes to this particular platform in the past with the nonstar, star and now the LXT. All not referring to compatibility issues that there are between them. For example my cordless bandsaw and my large 1/2" rattle gun does not carry a star and now the modern batteries do not fit. However they all look the same and go on the same charger. 2~ Makita has had a 36 volt single battery platform in the past and dropped it like a hot potato. It was mostly the garden line but was used on some tools like a vac and 9" grinder from memory. Makita don't even list these on their web site. As for pricing they have always been extortive compared to the 18v lines. Note that these are not compatible with the XGT line. You would think that they would be the price of two 18 volt units? Check the AH capacity... www.totaltools.com.au/96039-makita-36v-2-6ah-lithium-ion-battery-bl3626 3~I believe that the patent on the Battery has expired. There are now many knock off cordless tools of many different skins available that are using the Makita interface just have a look at Banggood. www.banggood.com/18V-125mm-10800r-or-min-Brushless-Cordless-Rechargeable-Electric-Circular-Saw-Adapted-To-18V-Makita-Battery-p-1735244.html?p=S5101910636717201705&custlinkid=1328162&cur_warehouse=CN www.banggood.com/125mm-Brushless-Angle-Grinder-Multi-function-Polishing-Machine-Grinder-Polisher-Adapted-To-18V-Makita-Battery-p-1695043.html?p=S5101910636717201705&custlinkid=1358736&ID=6287830&cur_warehouse=CN The general platform has been around for 15 years ? now and will only remain in Australia as long as the knock offs stay out. A damn shame in my opinion as I personally have about 9k {replacement} tied up in Makita and it's platform including some 36v items. Did you get confirmation from Makita that they will continue to support the LXT platform and if so for how long 5 years? Most of my gear that I don't use daily will still be going strong in 5 years. *Opinions?*

the problem with the xgt platform is it seems one foot in each door line up, the batteries them selves are odd as well the 2.5ah is using 18650 cells so its still limited where as the 4.0 is 21700. if they plan to make bigger batteries then sure it can be powerful. but the2 x 18 platform seems to be done for . 18v its self will continue. the main benefit i see for xgt is one battery to deliver 36v which takes up less space then 2 x18. it seems them are more focused on voltage control on the motor construction then amp and how much can be shoved in it. but people will use the 2.5ah on the rotary hammer drill and wonder why power isnt that great then swap to a 4ah and go this is better thinking the ah is the solution not the cells. at least with milwaukee the high output batteries are well known and the tech makes sense. maybe that's makitas biggest fault here the marketing behind it is rather lacking

For mine, the biggest issue with the introduction of XGT is that there’s now no way Makita will put any more work into developing its LXT batteries - thoughts?

Makita xgt hp001g brushless hammer drill test

Those 40v Max batteries are a bit bulky on the impact driver. Would Makita eventually drop the 18V line in the future do you think.

Why do you need more power from your grinder or drill? I've got the 18v brushless makita and use it while welding and other jobs around the place, gets an airing most days, i use flap wheels, cutting discs an wire cup brushes. Not once I've I thought, oh I could do with more power. Its more rpm of the mains powered you miss, a thin slitter at 12000 rpm instead of 8500rpm ,feels like you just got out of your car an onto a motorbike, but 99% of the time I feel its perfect, nice in the hand no wire to tangle up with your welding cables!

I do think that we should be thankful that Makita at least gave us the adapter so we can charge our 18v batteries on the 40v charger. Who knows, maybe Makita will listen to our cries and will make an adapter to use 40v batteries on 18v tools and a different adapter for using 40v batteries with 18v x2 tools.

Is the 40v range worth upgrading to ive got most of the newest 18v brushless tools so is it even worth it

Can you compare this with dewalt 54v

When are they bringing a decent framer

A new Zealand guy has already dun the comparison on utub just search makita xgt .Thanks I work on heavy construction whare I've used 7 18v 5amp battery's in one day 18v grinder I think these xgt will stand up to the grim and rain where I work there is nothing like pulling your impacter out of water shacking it and trying to put 150mm lag bolts into a certo beam. Everything rusts

What's the IP rating?

What’s the point of having a powerful 40 volt grinder with a crappy 4 ah battery ..I’m a tile guy. It would give me very few cuts before battery change

Makita needs to make a change fast with 40v batteries to be compatible with their tools. Like the flex volt batteries

Эта машина сильная и ей нужна оснастка 150 мм.

Makita have already announced a new high-end 18v combi drill, it is the XPH14 in usa (www.makitatools.com/company/press-releases/2020/makita-announces-new-products-at-stafda-virtual-anaheim-2020), it will be known as DHP486 in the UK (i contacted makita uk to ask) and presumably the same model number for australia. It seems to have about the same torque as their 40v combi drill so presumably it might be identical but with a different battery connector. I have seen tests of the 40v makita vs the latest milwaukee and the milwaukee is more powerful. I'm interested in their upcoming 18v as the battery is smaller and lighter than the 40v and you can use slimline batteries which is impossible with 40v as those require 10 cells. I'd like to see makita release a triple charger, one that can charge 12v cxt, 18v lxt and 40v xgt batteries. Also a 18v + 40v dual charger too. One thing you didn't mention in your video is that there are 2.5ah and 4ah xgt batteries, the 2.5ah use 18650 cells and the 4ah uses 21700. Therefore the 2.5ah batteries are only a little larger and heavier than lxt batteries whereas the 4ah are much larger and heavier.

Btw Makita's new 18v drill is finally coming out in the first quarter of 2021! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gdWogtOY0MnLeqs.html

Nope. I have about 10 18v batteries. Since I can't stick two 18s in like I do for my chain and circular saw this grinder is a waste.

only real reason i can see for 40v is impact guns and if all you did was say decking or roofing i get the 18v makita is a bit of a limp ____, pretty much every other tool has space for the 2x18v though. Not really sold on the line so far.

As an American this sounds like two kiwis crying over tools I will buy the first day its available.

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I think some of these brands have lost the plot. Just bring a generator and a corded tool and get the job done in half the time, and half the cost...