Makita 40v Rotary Hammer Drill Smokes It Up Driving Earth Augers. OUCH!

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Жыл бұрын

Lots of people wanted to see this one so here it is. Can a 40v Rotary Hammer Drill drive a 300mm Auger... or any auger. And let's hope it doesn't start smoking!
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@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын

This is the Auger adaptor I'm using. ebay.us/Kcscg4 SDS Adaptor amzn.to/3TkbsFU Actual Makita 40v Earth Auger Tool Review kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bLV_o5V7rq_Jknk.html HP001G Hammer Drill with Earth Auger kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lc91qKWhz8y8g3U.html Makita 40v Mid Torque Auger Test kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p7CZe5mYsZfDeYU.html Makita 40v High Torque Auger Test kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nrVdmrGqupjLm3U.html

@uberwayz Жыл бұрын

The tool is designed for a completely different purpose. A rotary demo hammer is designed to maximise kinetic impacts, while the actual spin strength is secondary. An earth auger tool is designed the opposite way

@wankerjacksmith Жыл бұрын

Well said.

@aaronoconnor606 Жыл бұрын

I think he knows that lol

@tommyobrien9480 Жыл бұрын

I think these videos of tools trying to do something completely different from what they have been designed to do are pointless to say the least

@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын

They are far from pointless. People ask me if tools can do things everyday. So this shows them that it can't. I've done 2 videos showing impact wrenches not driving augers and STILL people think they can, so these are questions people want answered, even if they are still too dumb to believe the results. Guys don't want to buy another tool of they think one they already have will do the job.

@uberwayz Жыл бұрын

@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL so you don't consider knowingly wrecking an incredibly expensive tool just so stupid people can see it getting wrecked as low brow content?

@blamuk Ай бұрын

I'm grateful for this video, answered my question completely. I'm sure this one smoking rotary hammer saved thousands of rotary hammers from being used improperly world wide for the rest of time. I for one was about to try my SDS max bosh with an earth auger. I don't need to anymore thanks to this video.

@jumb0juice327 Жыл бұрын

Im oddly satisfied that it didnt work out. Just as you said, you've gotta use the right tool for the job !

@pete_lind Жыл бұрын

So whats next , earth auger on paint mixes or a router ? 🙂 DeWalt FlexVolt DCD460N-XJ can it beat that 40v Makita ?

@glennmassanova5671 Жыл бұрын

I use a 4 in by 30 in auger and a 6 in by 30 in auger to drill boles for 4 by 4 post and I use a Dewalt 60volt right angle drill and it doesn't slow down in any way. Beem using it for over 2 years. Awesome set up

@jacksmith2315 Жыл бұрын

When we put a vinyl fence around my yard we rented one of those 2 man gas augers from home depot. Damn thing kept binding up and kicking back on us, and my brother is a big dude. We brought it back and got a cheap gas 1 man auger at harbor freight. Thing worked great and was less than $200. Im sure its probably around $250 now, but i couldnt believe how much better it worked than a big massive 2 man one from home depot. Have used it a few times now and still works. I hate pull cords so i took the cover off, put a socket on my drill and get it going that way, nice and easy, no pull string.

@thebordernow 22 күн бұрын

How big of an auger were you using on it - 6" or 8"? How far down - 24" or 30"?

@dannomite123 10 ай бұрын

Ahh yes. You released the magic smoke. Well done!

@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 10 ай бұрын

Still works fine.

@ScottisntCool Жыл бұрын

The purple on thay impact is absolutely beautiful 😍

@riba2233 Жыл бұрын

Ouch indeed, luckily it still works but not a good sign. Bit weird that it didn't protect itself, I bet it can monitoring motor and electronics temperature.

@Mushroomuu Жыл бұрын

I had this problem with the 36v sds plus driving a 5/8"x8" bit into 6 separate holes in quick succession. Motor just smoked outta nowhere. On a chilly 29°F night too...

@stolenambulance 5 ай бұрын

I had my 2*18v auger smoke up in the same way. Even the right tool for the job sometimes doesn't cut it.

@disklamer Жыл бұрын

I stuck a 4"auger into a knockoff combidrill thingy and it was spitting sods around the yard gleefully with the only issue being it kept trying to break my wrist. That 12" auger is something else though.

@philsg13 Жыл бұрын

Any chance you could do a router review on the makita RP2301FC, and or maybe the new RP2303FC

@mc6400 7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much this video saved me a lot of $ and tears.

@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 7 ай бұрын

Glad it helped.

@gavinswart9417 Жыл бұрын

New to the cannel. Watched a few reviews and awesomeness. Like the no bias non sponsored reviews. Exactly what I need to see. Thanks.

@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard!

@ajarvis7107 Жыл бұрын

Why do you want to see the wrong tool for the job being used?

@gavinswart9417 Жыл бұрын

@@ajarvis7107 idiots everywhere I see.

@TRDjzx90 Жыл бұрын

Hey Tools & Stuff. Going completely random n off topic as usual. But.. Do you know if there is any difference between ls002g and ls005g mitre Saws.. Thanks

@UnacceptableViews Жыл бұрын

stick the auger in the router :P might make it to china at 20k rpm

@primelricafrente Жыл бұрын

Hello buddy. New subs here from west Auckland. Can we use xgt right angle drill as a earth auger? Cheers

@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын

Sure can... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bLV_o5V7rq_Jknk.html

@AndrewBrowner Жыл бұрын

the electronic speed setting i imagine is the opposite of a geared speed select, rather than increasing torque id say it cuts voltage or what % of time that voltage is applied to the actual motor windings and therefor torque at lower speeds and youll get the most power out of the max speed probably a little bit less amps and electronics heating up too as it must be doing some heavy switching to try and cut the speed down electronically

@skulspike92 Жыл бұрын

nice

@edwardlogan267 Жыл бұрын

Is there any difference between the earth auger and the right angle drill other than the handles?

@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын

No. You just add the handle.

@Silky_boi Жыл бұрын

Is there a way to purchase just the Auger attachment? I already have the 18x2 Right Angle drill.

@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын

ebay.us/72w9DR

@LORFCASTER Жыл бұрын

I wonder what makita tool has the largest motor stator / rotor and amp draw. Would their largest SDS-MAX rotary hammer be more powerful then the auger drill ?

@alouisschafer7212 2 ай бұрын

Their largest corded sds max would drive that auger just fine they have got very beefy motors BUT I wonder if the gearbox is up to the task I think it would just slip the anti stall clutch constantlyl and trigger the electronic shutoff. For a big auger you need a tool designed to deliver as much torque as possible. A large angle drill with a slow speed or a mixing drill would work.

@markdandan6047 Жыл бұрын

Same stuff happened to my sds 40v overheat easily. Good thing still got the 90 days warranty at Home Depot got my money refunded.

@suvijakengr3374 Жыл бұрын

I do so confused to see smoke from the high-level protection system of the tool.

@yngndrw. Жыл бұрын

How did you put the smoke back in? I assumed it would be limited in such a way that it wasn't possibly to burn it out like this but obviously not. I usually use my SDS for hole saws and paint mixing but I'll have to be mindful of this now. I am jealous of the speed dial on yours though as my older 18V SDS doesn't have it and it's often a bit too fast for hole saws in plasterboard (Just throws the dust out sideways before the dust cup reaches the ceiling.)

@finlaybichan1275 Жыл бұрын

does the trigger not do speed control on the newer models?

@yngndrw. Жыл бұрын

@@finlaybichan1275 I think both do on the newer models, so the dial sets the maximum and then you get more control from the variable trigger. That's the issue on my older one for hole saws in plasterboard, you need enough power to start it spinning but not so much that it flicks dust everywhere and the difference between those two is a very small movement in the trigger. If I could set a lower maximum on a dial, there'd be far more range of control from the trigger.

@hairsonabobbin Жыл бұрын

A rotary hammer/sds drill isn't made for high torque jobs. They're made for punching, not twisting. A rotary hammer with 3J breaking power can have less than 20Nm torque. That's less than a 12V drill.

@yngndrw. Жыл бұрын

@@hairsonabobbin I've been using an SDS for hole saws and mixing based on the assumption that they are geared down and therefore must be better for lower speed applications, but after reading your comment I've just realised that I based this assumption on absolutely no evidence - Not one shred. I've just had a look at the manual to try to find some of the torque values for various sizes (Which I didn't find in the manuals I looked at) and realised that the newer manuals even tell you not to use them for hole saws. So now I feel like an idiot, thanks. I'll switch back to my standard drill in the low gear!

@alouisschafer7212 2 ай бұрын

For mixing id only use a corded drill with a slow speed and a beefy motor. Takes more torque than you think to swirl some paint or plaster.

@thatguythatdoesstuff5899 Жыл бұрын

Really weird it let the smoke out. I would think it would have some protection.

@TheMariokart69 Жыл бұрын

Yay for free tools!

@phergas2455 Жыл бұрын

Idk if its posible, but it would be cool to se augers on an angle grider

@phergas2455 Жыл бұрын

*grinder

@Dave-dh7rt Жыл бұрын

Im early for once lol! I would lovee to win one of those impact drivers!

@nominalvelocity Жыл бұрын

Speaking of the right tool for the job, do you reckon the earth auger (or just the basic 40v right angle joist drill) would be capable as a mud (concrete, mortar) mixer? In low speed the 450 rpm is the same as the dedicated mud mixer.

@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын

Gotta be easier than digging a hole, right?

@jacksmith2315 Жыл бұрын

Id imagine either would be just fine.

@stepansavelyonok5532 Жыл бұрын

I use ddg460 this way, works great with up to 90L bucket. Have not bigger one to try. Propably possible to mix a little bit more. 2*5amps give me 3-8 60L buckets of concrete(with gravel) to work with.

@nominalvelocity Жыл бұрын

@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL That was my thought as well, though the load is a bit more sustained. Thanks for helping to justify me spending more moola

@sambrose1 Жыл бұрын

They just came out with a flier for a big one(UT001GZ) it looks great.

@dreamcat4 Жыл бұрын

i think it would be helpful to understand a little bit more about how these type of electric motors generate the torque. the other guy said to use a reducer gearbox which would then make sense if the sds generates higher torque at higher rpms. and there is a wide range of differently performing (or even differently designed) sds out there on the market. so that would also affect which gear ratio of gearbox is going to be the best match to any given specific sds drill. the guideline being anywhere from 4:1 reduction up to 12:1 or 15:1. it is also worth noticing the difference within the tool between a speed setting variable potentiometer. which is not going to change the tool's internal gearing ratio. and those other tools which actually do have a real internal mechanical gearbox with physical gearing reduction and different ratios. which also varies from tool to tool depending on what the design the manufacture had chosen. all in all feel a bit disappoint to see this negative result. because the early failure prevented you to be able to go on far enough to be able to test an compare an actual working performance against that other dedicated earth auger tool. to then know if the sds approach actually is capable enough to be a serious alternative. (or in fact better or worse than the 40v hammer drill testing, using same auger bits, the same muddy ground, same all other test conditions etc). so it feels like a missed opportunity to have gathered a good data. that is fair and impartial. upon which such basis can be assured. and in the end the real world utility of this approach also depends a lot on the cost / benefit ratio of either paying more money for the dedicated proper tool. against the cost savings on the sds in exchange for the hassle and extra work involved doing those necessary fabrication work mating together different adaptors and such to the right geartbox, and also welding onto the gearbox stage extra metal parts for a handle to hold it and steady it properly in a usable and safe fashion. otoh if you already have a junker old (but massive) sds lying around then it could be a really fun weekend project for somebody out there. also too bad about the damage to the makita 40v sds... i never like to see good tools end up getting hurt like that. but once you see the smoke you know that it has partially burnt off some of the enamel insulation of the motor windings. and therefor compromised at east partially some of the windings of the motor (which is a permanent type of a damage). which then would make it less protected in future against any other such event recurring a 2nd time or a 3rd time. and those makita cordless sds drills aren't cheap! but some useful lessons learned thank you

@HelenaOfDetroit Жыл бұрын

Common myth with brushless DC motors, "instant torque." Which sorta means "this motor has full torque even at lower RPM. However, they actually have far LESS torque at lower speeds than their brushed counterparts, especially when compared to brushed tools that plug into the mains. Also, every electronic speed controller (ESC) that slows RPM cannot increase or decrease torque. Only mechanical changes to RPM can change torque, via gear ratios and other means.

@toolscientist Жыл бұрын

You probably already know this, but the lower torque is due to the ESC cutting power to save the mosfets/windings. You could drive it to stall if you were happy to cook the mosfets. Cheap brushed tools often have no stall protection so will cook themselves when stalled. The video does show that he has more success at low speed, though. Probably because it's easier to gradually load the motor without tripping the stall protection.

@Basnak Жыл бұрын

The low speed-less cooling air is killer for motor

@MightyHawx Жыл бұрын

Some on FB told me makita are dropping high output 18v batteries very soon. Any truth to this?

@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын

@HaloColby123 Жыл бұрын

How does one order makita tools from japan??

@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын

Take a look in the description for links to the Impact Drivers from sellers in Japan that deliver worldwide, and other tools are also in the description.

@davidblahota5655 Жыл бұрын

what a coincidence with the release of hr008 🙃

@abelgerli Жыл бұрын

Actually I have the biggest SDS Max available in Germany HR5212c so getting smoky seems to be way safer than being thrown around with the machine and the twisted in the cable. Ok I should have let go the trigger but I thought I am 100kg plus I can handle it, I didn't 😁😁😎 So Makita wins again.

@lcalvin5601 Жыл бұрын

good stuff mate

@bartfoster1311 Жыл бұрын

I just got this drill and that smoke is making me a little nervous! I definitely won't abuse it like this! Now I am curious how fast that auger would push a kayak..

@kimchee94112 8 ай бұрын

Where the smoke came from? Was it the windings or electronics? In any case, life expectancy compromised. When you do that, stall current will be many time the running current, overheating the windings, electronics and battery. It's almost like a short circuit! Try that across the battery terminals. That being said I did that to my Milwaukee drill, let it cooled way down and fine ever since.

@natureenthusiast660 Жыл бұрын

Bro, will you give me an impact driver if I live outside USA?

@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын

Yeah man, I don't live in the US either.

@natureenthusiast660 Жыл бұрын

@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL ohh!! Where are you from?

@natureenthusiast660 Жыл бұрын

@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL I'm subscribing, hoping to get the driver

@CDOOMED Жыл бұрын

Ouch! Dude, those things are not cheap, what's that thing like 1500 bucks NZ?

@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын

More like 600

@Xboxers Жыл бұрын

Smoke out of my tools is my worst nightmare

@wessamazzo8856 Жыл бұрын

It is in the instructions, not designed for high torque applications.

@particleconfig.8935 Жыл бұрын

She was smokin hot! and turned everything to dirth!

@user-fx7ic1tw6d Жыл бұрын

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@robertrada6040 Жыл бұрын

I shit you not, people want to get in line to argue with me that a Harbor Freight sds plus is the supreme tool for Earth augers. Their rational? “Well it’s got more power than a normal drill and that’s why it can go through concrete and so it’s got like power.” Ok, dudes.

@ajarvis7107 Жыл бұрын

They make an earth auger drill for this, why use the wrong tool for the job?

@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын

DID YOU WATCH ANY OF THE VIDEO????

@Failsafeman100 Жыл бұрын

Unsurprising haha. I guess it ain't for nothing that rotary hammers don't typically claim torque numbers in their stats

@randyalain7 Жыл бұрын

This thing isn't designed for those Auger bits. Very unfortunate 😞

@ivisvaladez 4 ай бұрын

Makita... yup they will do that.

@emile-a2394 Жыл бұрын

Bro's abusing that makita💀

@NonnofYobiznes Жыл бұрын

I'm barely learning about tools and even I know that was stupid, sorry to say it. The speed at which it rotates affects the torque, which is what's needed in this case. What a way to destroy a tool.

@hazza2247 Жыл бұрын

i don’t see any pistol grip style tool of this size range ever being able to turn the 300mm auger, like no chance hahaha

@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын

HP001G Hammer Drill with Earth Auger kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lc91qKWhz8y8g3U.html

@hazza2247 Жыл бұрын

@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL looks like much softer soil but i’ll admit, i’m a fool

@dcharmz5915 Жыл бұрын

i'm wishing to win a HAMMER DRILL XGT 40V....

@ernieandan1613 Жыл бұрын

i hope, i won

@LabusMakitovich Жыл бұрын

Каждому инструменту своя задача! Зачем перфоратором это делать??????? Хотя ж амэрыкосам плявать)))

@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын

Надеюсь, вы не думаете, что я американец

@johnerickvinalon2683 Жыл бұрын

ooof smoke! Poor drill.

@wolfcommander6009 Жыл бұрын

Did i win yet

@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын

I can't remember.

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@dominicvanlievenoogen6407 Жыл бұрын

Totally to be expected in lowest speed. Absolutely no cooling to the motor. When that tool shut down 20 centimeters up, that should have been your warning not to continue :)

@toolscientist Жыл бұрын

Fairly poor of Makita to not have a temp sensor on the motor, though. They probably never thought someone would put a sustained high torque load on this kind of drill, though.

@dominicvanlievenoogen6407 Жыл бұрын

@@toolscientist temp sensors on motors haven't been a thing in power tools for the last decade.. Temp sensors are on the electronics in brushless motors because that's the thing that dies/burns trough in any normal situation where you just use your tool way too long under heavy load. There should honestly be no single reason to put a tool in its lowest speed where you have zero motor cooling and then out that kind of load on it.

@toolscientist Жыл бұрын

@@dominicvanlievenoogen6407 seems lazy, though. High end tools should be idiot proof, whether that be using it in a weird way, leaving it in the sun, covering the vents with your hands, taping up the vents in a wet environment, etc, etc. All of those happen by people that don't know better or do it because they need to get a job done and can be prevented with a simple thermistor on the motor.

@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын

Well there's at least one reason 😉

@toolscientist Жыл бұрын

@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL one legit reason would be using a diamond core bit or a large steel bit/holesaw. You would use low speed if you didn't have water or cutting fluid on hand.

@LabusMakitovich Жыл бұрын

Шли мне и не балуйся!!!

@oldwobble916 3 ай бұрын

I think it would have been better, if you take out the loose soil every 4 inches or so. The same goes for drilling in moist brick. It clogs the bit and get stuck.

@Chris-iu5ol Жыл бұрын

That ain't good 🤣🤣

@alouisschafer7212 2 ай бұрын

Way too much torque load for a little sds drill. You will want a slow turning drill for this task like a 2 speed drill on low gear. Or a proper auger drill like you already have 😅 Preferably a corded one they have endless torque and never really overheat. The problem is you dont have enough of a gear reduction in these small sds drills they are meant to turn at 500-1000rpm. So no wonder it cooked the motor.

@arturasnesakysiu1684 Жыл бұрын

I think you made some damage not esential. Open the tool, probably some wire went too hot started to melt, it may now need to resolder, or even change burned wire, advice to open, easy to do, just some screws