Malazan Book of the Fallen Breakdown, Reading Guide & Ranking!
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Күн бұрынHi everyone. It has been quite a while since I did a reading guide on my channel. The last time was for The Realm of the Elderlings almost two years ago. Today, I am back with a reading guide for Malazan Book of the Fallen by Steven Erikson. I will also do a brief breakdown of each book in the main series. And I will let you know my personal ranking for them. The purpose of this video is simple, to help and guide first-time readers of the series to succeed at finishing it. If you have read Malazan Book of the Fallen, let me know what you think about the series. It is one of my top favorite series of all time, and I truly hope more readers will pick up and love the series. :)
Booktuber mentioned: @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
0:00 Intro & Purpose
3:04 Tips & Tricks
6:51 Reading Order & Ranking
23:57 What's next after the main series?
Books and Series Mentioned:
Malazan Book of the Fallen by Steven Erikson
-Gardens of the Moon
-Deadhouse Gates
-Memories of Ice
-House of Chains
-Midnight Tides
-The Bonehunters
-Reaper's Gale
-Toll the Hounds
-Dust of Dreams
-The Crippled God
Malazan Empire by Ian Esslemont
-Night of Knives
-Return of the Crimson Guard
-Stonewielder
-Orb Scepter Throne
-Blood and Bone
-Assail
The Kharkanas Trilogy by Steven Erikson
-Forge of Darkness
-Fall of Light
-Walk in Shadows
The Witness Trilogy by Steven Erikson
-The God is Not Willing
The Path to Ascendancy by Ian Esslemont
-Dancer's Lament
-Deadhouse Landing
-Kellanved's Reach
-Forge of the High Mage
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@mormengil Жыл бұрын
The weird thing about the Malazan series is its limited availability in print form. There are the mass market paperbacks, which for the most part should be available, and after that is is sheer chaos. Some TPB are available, some are out of print, across different editions / lines (I assume us / uk), some hardcovers exist, some do not... A mess!
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Yeahhh seriously. Outside of mass market paperback and Kindle edition, it's insanely hard to collect the series in other matching editions. 🥲
@3choblast3r4 Жыл бұрын
I feel like hardcovers should be the default. Big, nice hardcovers are the only physical books I care for, and generally they don't cost that much more than a paperback esp if the book has released a long time ago.
@mormengil Жыл бұрын
@@3choblast3r4 I don't think that is really the case. Usually they are 3-4 times the price of a paperback, only in special cases are Hardcovers anywhere near the same price...
Жыл бұрын
I just looked it up in Brazilian Portuguese and the publisher only translated the first two books, so not even that is an option *sigh*
@theotang681 Жыл бұрын
malazan books are special. so unique. what a cast of characters! truly special and the books suits my style. dark. grim. funny. emotional. weird. bizarre. w.t.f. moments galore in this series. i am on my re-read right now. witness!!!!!
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Hear hear. I look forward to rereading the series and completing all the other books in the world, too. WITNESS!!
@esmayrosalyne Жыл бұрын
Super insightful video, Petrik! And I enjoyed seeing your personal ranking! I have yet to dip my toes into this epic universe, so for now I am keeping my fingers crossed that it's going to live up to all the hype when I eventually get to it. Thanks for making this video!!
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Esmay! Glad to hear the video proved to be insightful for you! 😁 Here's hoping you will love this epic fantasy world!
@MarsRoverly Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the guide! I've always wanted to start and this helps so much
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Good luck!! Glad to hear it's useful!
@BooksRebound Жыл бұрын
This is the best series there is!
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
It's STILL the most epic fantasy series of novels I've ever read.
@ADudeWhoReads Жыл бұрын
Great timing with this video. I start Book 1 this week!
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Good luck and enjoy the ride! 😁
@dinocollins720 Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video!!! Thank you Petrik!!!
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Dino! 🙂
@PoorPersonsBookReviewer Жыл бұрын
Great video petrik, I'm planning on reading malazan next year and will definitely give this video a re watch
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, Jimmy! Here's hoping thus video will be useful to you by the time you're ready to tackle the series!
@joanbarduena Жыл бұрын
Great video as always Petrik! I will rewatch the video before starting this saga. The lenght is very intimidating. For the time being, I have it on my TBR. 😄
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Joan! I wish you the best of luck when you get to it. Don't hesitate to ask for advice or thoughts! 😄
@book_scent Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great overview & guide, Petrik!! 😃 Starting Malazan feels very daunting, but I plan on finally taking the plunge this year - it's about time (especially since The Broken Binding announced they'd be doing this series next year ^^)!
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
You're welcome! And thank you so much. You can do it! I can't wait to see Broken Binding edition of the series. 🙂
@Talking_Story Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I go back and forth if I want to give this a try or not.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Hate it or love it, definitely give it a try, imo! 😁
@heretic124 Жыл бұрын
Malazan is love, Malazan is life. Nothing comes close but I hope someday something will. World needs more of heavy philosophical (dare I say biblical level) epic fiction like this.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Biblical level epic fiction is something amazing. We need more of it!
@jedyty4219 8 ай бұрын
Great video. I am staring the series next month and this was very helpful. It made the series seem a little less intimidating.
@PetrikLeo 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! That's great to hear! 😃 Best of luck!
@ronniefranco512 Жыл бұрын
For some reason these last weeks I've been watching a lot of booktube channels speaking about Malazan and how people struggle reading it.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Yeah me too. 🤣 That's why I made this video! 😁
@ronniefranco512 Жыл бұрын
@@PetrikLeo to this day, I do not know how I did it lol
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this guide, Petrik! I'm sure that many of your viewers will benefit from this encouragement. As you know, I am a huge fan of The Malazan Book of the Fallen, just like you. My personal experience has been that all the other Malazan series by both authors have enriched The Malazan Book of the Fallen and have been awesome reads in themselves. All the best!
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Cheers, Philip!! I know how much you love the series, too. Here's hoping this video invite more readers into trying and loving the series. Who knows, maybe I will read and love Esslemont's books, too, someday! 🙂
@DanExploresBooks Жыл бұрын
Great guide Petrik. I think encouraging voices are important, as this series has a reputation of being beyond the reach of people or needlessly cryptic. I don't think people need to be intimidated as much as people tend to be. It just needs to be read when you are in the mood for slowing down your reading journey. It is a great series but only as good as what you are willing to put into it... as is the case with plenty of books that can be a bit more demanding. You can breeze through the books and enjoy the surface plot fine enough, but there is some seriously very special if you are willing to stop and dig down in places to try and really understand some of the deeper things to be found.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Yeah I agree with you. I think we sometimes could let words of mouth and loud opinion influences our reading mood or motivation. In the end, dedicating some time and enjoy the ride will be key to finishing the series! 🙂
@MichaelBrown101 Жыл бұрын
Petrik, I really have to commend you for this video and all of your love for the Malazan series in the past. I was gifted the entire collection on my kindle a few months ago, and have been way too nervous to try it out. There are so many negatives out there, but also so many positives. It kind of put me off of the series for a long time when people say it’s difficult to read. I think after watching this video, it’s time to start Gardens of the Moon. Thanks for finally giving me that push I needed.
@DanExploresBooks Жыл бұрын
Don't be too worried about it. At first it feels a bit like watching a brand new sport or something and not knowing the rules. But it eventually comes and you don't get left in the dust. I think there is more worry about not being able to understand than is needed.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
You're so welcome, Michael! Don't worry about it too much. Just give it a try and see how you feel about it. Enjoy the ride! 😁
@MichaelBrown101 Жыл бұрын
@@PetrikLeo thanks Petrik! I started last night, and while I’m very confused, I’m very intrigued so far. I love great world building.
@MichaelBrown101 Жыл бұрын
@@DanExploresBooks thanks for the advice! Truly appreciate it!
@mjdaniel8710 11 ай бұрын
One of my favorites, I am reading the main 10 a 4th time and reading Toll the Hounds, also really like the side books
@PetrikLeo 11 ай бұрын
Whoa! Four times? That's awesome. And yeah, Toll the Hounds is incredible. I wish more readers acknowledge that. 😆
@EstoNoEsUnSpoiler Жыл бұрын
I’ve read up to HoC. Malazan is a masterpiece, especially DG and MOI, but getting the mental energy to continue reading it is sometimes too hard. I’ve put off starting MT for quite a while now.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Yeah I get what you mean! Hence the Malazan fatigue I mentioned. It's so real. I know many readers who can't finish it despite enjoying the series immensely. 😂
@Thefantasybookwarrior Жыл бұрын
Petrik, I am starting book 4, House of chains, this week. I am excited as I already think this is the best series i have ever read and I still have 6 books left. In order to not feel any fatigue, I have been mixing in other books as i go. I read Gardens of the Moon-Meories of Ice. Read Lonesome Dove and The Will of the Many ( which I will finish tomorrow). Next, I will read Ryan Cahills first novella (The fall) and then I will start book 4 of Malazan afterwards and probably alternate back and forth with the Bound and Broken series. There are definitely “things” I missed, forgot, or didn’t understand it every book, but I pushed through because the overall world, themes, and writing is so amazing. I heard the Broken Binding is going to be making their own books for the series in 2024. I hope so, hardcovers are soooooo expensive due to the lack of availability. But YES! MALAZAN IS SO AMAZING SO FAR!! SPOILER My favorite character is Kruppe. 😂 I pronounce it like this… Krup-uh. How do you pronounce it. Some people find him annoying. But I find him hilarious, and apparently hilariously overpowered. FOR EXAMPLE: when Caladan Brood swings his hammer and everyone gets thrown around but Good Ole Kruppe is still just chillin like nothing happened. Someone get that man some more cake. Also, Anomander Rake is pretty awesome. A freaking floating Moon fortress!?! A sword named Dragnipur. Etc etc etc This series is the Bee’s Knees, the Cats meow, and Kruppe’s dream. 😂
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I hope you enjoy The Will of the Many, Ryan Cahill's books, and Malazan! I can't wait for The Broken Binding edition of Malazan. It's about time we get an affordable hardcover version of Malazan BotF! That scene you mentioned between Kruppe and Memories of Ice are so badass!!
@nick_a_93 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with the read until Memories of Ice advice. I enjoyed GotM and DG but Memories of Ice was what really clicked with me and made me realize how incredible this series is (maybe my favorite)
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Yeah Memories of Ice was the one that settled it for me. I immediately think there "yeah I have to read this series to the end!" 😁
@fjuran1 Жыл бұрын
I didn't realize you read the ten books. I have read GOTM three times, over the years starting several times. It did get better. Deadhouse Gates, by the end I said ah!!! However, with all the other series out there, I was sidetracked twice. I must try to get back to it, next year, since I have all the first editions and the first two in limited editions as well, as well as all the Esselmont's on my shelf. You have inspired me to attempt again.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Yeah! I read all ten books in 2018 for the first time. Can't believe it's been 5 years. No idea how time flies so quickly. I hope you will continue the series and love it! 😁
@joeri7130 Жыл бұрын
I started Malazan a week ago, I've had it on my TBR since 2016. I'm just cruising and seeing what Malazan has to offer, the worldbuilding is already 5 stars. It's been wonderful so far, I just hope I remember stuff. (I reread the first 120 pages because I had too take a break due to hayfever/insomnia & already forgot a lot). Anyway, thanks for the guide, this is exactly what I need! (I'm only 7 minutes in, but ADD)
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
The world-building is phenomenal. If that's one of the things you love most in fantasy, Malazan will try its best to satisfy you. I hope you continue to read and love the series! 😁
@safinan8008 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for Malazan book series guide… happy reading… 😂📖
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Happy reading to you, too!
@andrareads2285 Жыл бұрын
thanks for the guide Petrik! 😁i must admit i'm quite intimidated by this series, even though there's a big chance it'll suit me😅
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
You're welcome! The series will be here when you're ready to tackle it! 😁
@claytonhomer3096 Жыл бұрын
First I would say excellent video, Petrik. Secondly the thing I find having seen a lot of rankings is: due to the way the series is written you can tell what story lines a person likes by the way they order the books. Finally here is my ranking, for whatever that is worth to anyone. 1. The Crippled God - Pretty easy number 1. It is brilliant and the ending forever changes the other books. 2. Toll the Hounds --Brilliant book with, imo, the best final sequence (excluding TCG series finale) 3. Reaper's Gale --Probably the hottest take but I love Tehol and Bugg and Lether, Redmask was great for me. 4. Midnight Tides-- Again I love everything Lether. 5. Memories of Ice -- Fantastic book with one of the best endings. 6 The Bonehunters -- Great book. Certainly one of the most action packed books, I have the hot take that the ending is the best chapter not chapter 7. 7. House of Chains -- Another hot take but I loved the Karsa stuff and the continuation of book 2 storylines. 8. Deadhouse Gates -- Great book overall, Chain of dogs is epic. 9. Dust of Dreams -- I still enjoyed this book but It had the most moments of "why is this here" on the first read. After finishing the series it all makes sense though. 10. Gardens of the Moon --- None of these books are even close to bad but this one is the weakest overall imo. The story is fun and epic enough to hook me but I am comparing it to other Malazan books not fantasy books in general, so it's last.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I like hearing your ranking and thoughts on them. And yes, i completely agree that everything related to Lether is awesome. Argh now I want to reread Midnight Tides. 😂
@itscatoclock Жыл бұрын
Malazan is my most anticipated series but I get so, so excited about it that I watch most videos related to it. Is that weird? Thanks Petrik, I'm going to watch this now and revisit it when I start Malazan too.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Not weird at all! It's good to have some most ancitipated series. I know I have some, too! 😁
@fcsolis Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@garyobrien3585 Жыл бұрын
Great video Petrik. I read MBOTF when I was in college and was blown away. Never read anything like it before. There was a lot I did not understand but still found lots to love about it. It can be quite tedious at times but the pay off is definitely worth it. Got to meet Erikson at a pub Q&A during Worldcon 2019. He is very down to earth and has lots of great stories about what influenced the series.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Gary! Hear hear. I think trying to understand EVERYTHING in Malazan is why readers get scared or fatigued with the series. And hey, I'm envious you get to meet Erikson! That's so awesome. 😁
@ec_me Жыл бұрын
Great video. I was curious of where Forge of Darkness and Fall of Light would fit into your rankings. Or what tour general thoughts were. Personally I thought they were great. FoD in particular had a snappy pace and a narrower scope.
@PetrikLeo 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! honestly, on first read, I'm not too much of a fan of Forge of Darkness and Fall of Light. I'll probably rank them slightly above House of Chains.
@ernstbrehm1135 Жыл бұрын
This is the series I’ve tried & stopped more than any other!! I only made it through half of Deadhouse Gates & stopped. Then I reread Gardens of the Moon & stopped again at Deadhouse Gates. Hearing how much people just love the series, stupid me, picked up Gardens of the Moon again & guess what, stopped halfway through. I think I finally come to the realization that this series isn’t for me. Maybe someday in the future I’ll try again🤪🤪🤪But thank you Petrik for your great videos. Definitely one of my favorite booktubers!!!👍🏼
@HylianPirate Жыл бұрын
DHG is in the bottom 3 for me. I cannot fathom how people think the series gets good from book 2. It only improved in book 3.
@laiquende9971 Жыл бұрын
I'm with Hylian Pirate here. DHG was a challenge for me but Book 3 MOI was phenomenal. After reading Book 3 I can't stop
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Ernst! Hey no worries. I think Deadhouse Gates is the most hyped books of the entire series. If you do give it a try again, I recommend trying until Memories of Ice!
@ptannous27 Жыл бұрын
Malazan is one of the series I’ve always been afraid to try lol I own the first two. I will try to get to them this year.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Good luck, Pierre! Here's hoping you'll enjoy them! 😄
@Magnoliafan13 Жыл бұрын
Great video and I mostly agree about your ranking. I also agree about Ian Esslemont. The writing might get better, but his writing style does not change. And there is just something about his structure, that is not for me. Steven Erikson commented on the duel you mention in Toll the Hound. He actually roleplayed in a ttrpg, and the conclusion was made on a single dice roll. Could have been a different story, if the dice had landed different :)
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Oh wow. I didn't know about that duel in Toll the Hounds. Urgh... damn dice!! 😂
@chadia25 Жыл бұрын
I'm Dust of Dreams atm. Love this series so far.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Close to the end. Good luck!! 😁
@MargueriteKrux2 Жыл бұрын
I'm rereading MoI currently, because its been a few months since I read it and I want to go on with the series when on vacation.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Nice!! Enjoy your reread and the rest of the series! 🙂
@zenthepoet. Жыл бұрын
🔥
@HylianPirate Жыл бұрын
Reaper's Gale is my favorite. The cast is insane and I enjoyed every single POV. And then you have the finale...
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
That's wonderful! The finale of Reaper's Gale was great, indeed! 😊
@DanExploresBooks Жыл бұрын
Just did the prologue. So excited for it.
@seanhalpin87 Жыл бұрын
Ooooohhhhhh. Im here for this.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Haha thank you, Sean!
@seanhalpin87 Жыл бұрын
I know everyone says to not intersperse the ian c esslemont novels into your first read, but I am SO tempted. I'm about to start midnight tides, so we'll see what I decide to do haha
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
@@seanhalpin87 i personally don't think it's not a good idea just because the fatigue can be insanely bad by the time you get to book 7 or 8. Experience will differ of course. I wish you good luck!
@seanhalpin87 Жыл бұрын
Also, I'm shocked house of chains is number 9. I absolutely LOVED it. I think it's my second favorite thus far. I really, really loved karsa, all the tlan imass stuff, all the whirlwind stuff. Some reveals we're so wild
@seanhalpin87 Жыл бұрын
And yeah, I'm leaning toward not doing it. Just because I know thematically malazan is really just one big book, and novels of malzan empire are not up to par.
@Uppernorwood976 Жыл бұрын
2024 is the year of Malazan for me, I’m starting a read along 1 Jan. I think the key will be to take it slow at steady.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Yes you're right! Take your time with it. It's not a race. Enjoy the adventure! May this video be useful to you! 🙂
@jakotheshadows6516 Жыл бұрын
F*ck I came back to reading and thought about reading malazan.. Perfect timing bro ❤
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Well that's awesome! Hopefully this is useful! 😁
@duncs3850 8 ай бұрын
Bone hunters and toll the hounds were my favourite two
@PetrikLeo 8 ай бұрын
They are AMAZING!
Жыл бұрын
'Some people called me heartless for not crying' lmao the same thing happened to me after the train arc in Demon Slayer had me going 'hm, that's sad' after hearing from EVERYONE that I was supposed to cry Come on, people, let's stop expecting everyone reacts the same way to the same things, especially if you basically TELL THEM something sad is about to happen
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Yeah! Demon Slayer Mugen train was amazing. Emotional, too. But so what if we don't cry watching it? Being told we have to cry on a certain scene to not be called heartless is ridiculous. 😂
@gravy4708 Жыл бұрын
eh mugen train was forced. can't really be sad at something like that
@fearSimon Жыл бұрын
Malazan Fatigue was real, and I might have ruined the series for myself by pushing through. I was very happy and consider this series the best one I've read before I started Midnight Tides and now, a year later I consider it not worth the time investment. Downfall started with MT, and only books I enjoyed after that one are Bonehunters (perfect) and TTH (I love Darujhistan) So my top10: HoC>BH>DHG>MoI>GotM>TTH>MT>tCG>RG>DoD
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Yeah! Some readers don't experience this, but the Malazan fatigue is real to many readers. Especially those who tried to push through when they should be taking a break! I know a friend who stopped reading the series after the 8th book.
@jcmberne Жыл бұрын
100% agree Tehol and Bugg are among the best characters in fantasy.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
They're amazing! Love Tehol and Bugg!
@carnissa Жыл бұрын
Started House Of Chains yesterday. Let's goooooo
@BooksRebound Жыл бұрын
Someone said Erikson couldn't write a single perspective story to save his life, so he clapped back with House of Chains and that's why the first like 250-300pgs is all about Karsa. Karsa is a fan favorite.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Oh yes. Enjoy!!
@briani8785 Жыл бұрын
@@BooksRebound yeah I just finished the Karsa’s first arc. Loving house of chains
@HylianPirate Жыл бұрын
WITNESS
@BooksRebound Жыл бұрын
@@briani8785 Get ready for Midnight Tides. Something about it just hits different. It feels so self contained and thematically it's really tight and there's the best duo in the series in Lether. It's a really great book.
@briani8785 Жыл бұрын
Feel like 10 books is my only goal. My library is so big for me that it’s hard to commit to more than that. Over tim3 will probably occasionally read some of the novels. I am happy tho and am digging HoC
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Yes! That's understandable. Just do what you feel is best. I think finishing the 10 books should alwyas be the main goal over everything else in the world.
@briani8785 Жыл бұрын
@@PetrikLeo yea, just so many series out there and I have a book purchasing addiction lol
@p11116 Жыл бұрын
i read The God is Not Willing first and wanted more. Now I'm at Reaper's Gale. I think tGiNW is still my most fav. Is it because that was my first one? idk. That and anything with Tehol.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
I haven't read The God is Not Willing Yet, but I heard from many fans of the series it is one of Erikson's best books. How I haven't read it to this day is ridiculous to me. 😅
@3choblast3r4 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried reading Book of the New Sun? I really wonder how Malazan compares to the BOTNS complexity wise.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Not yet! I heard BotNS, despite its smaller size, is even more complex compared to Malazan. 😂
@EricMcLuen Жыл бұрын
Completely different. Malazan is complex due to scale and scope. New Sun isnt so much complex as confusing due to the archaic words and trying to figure out what is being described. And New Sun is about the length of one Malazan book.
@3choblast3r4 Жыл бұрын
Bro you started off intimidating me with the length of the series, 10 books and kinda requires a re-read? But then hyped me up so much it's now 100% the next series I read.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
I mean, I haven't done a full reread of the series to the end. And I still consider it one of the best! 😁
@GauravSingh-jg2wd Жыл бұрын
Bro help me out here. I want to buy used kindle and a guy said he will sell kindle paperwhite 10th generation (32+4g) for $73. He said he had used it for only couple of times. Should I go for it?
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Hmm I dunno. My philosophy is to always buy new when it comes to technology. Maybe I'm skeptic, but god knows how many times the device have actually been used. 😅
@GauravSingh-jg2wd Жыл бұрын
@@PetrikLeo yeah😅
@Grimm44 Жыл бұрын
Are there more books after the Dragonbone chair. 3 books?
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Yeah! Second series titled The Last King of Osten Ard!
@seamusb9012 Жыл бұрын
Trying to get through Malazan BotF as a mood reader is very frustrating. Up to Midnight Tides and I keep picking it up then feel like reading something else
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Hahaha! The struggle is real. Fortunately, my reading mood for Malazan BotF was on the spot when I read the series that I ended up finishing the series in 3 months. 😂
@seanmills25 Жыл бұрын
I would like to start Memories of Ice, but for the life of me I can’t find the trade paperback ANYWHERE! 😭😭
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Arghh availability is definitely another issue!!
@sluper12345 Жыл бұрын
Excellent! May I suggest reading at least one of the Bauchelain and Korbal Broach novellas before Memories of Ice. I'm currently re-reading the whole thing (second readthrough), this time including the ICE-books. Currently on House of Chains, and even though it is probably my least favorite, I still get moments of "Holy crap this is brilliant, why bother reading anything else when I could just re-read Malazan over and over". An interesting thing is that I didn't like MoI nearly as much as the average malazan veteran the first time around. I had expect this to change upon a re-read, but no. It's still not close to be at the top half of my personal Malazan ranking.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion! I think I will give the novellas a try, too, on my next reread. It won't be anytime soon, though. It's interesting that Memories of Ice is not one of your favorites, but that's the beauty of reading! We all have different experiences! 😁
@diamondj4484 7 ай бұрын
I really liked when he said "Malazan"
@PetrikLeo 7 ай бұрын
Thank you Historia!
@heretic124 Жыл бұрын
You forgot Bauchelain and Korbal Broach's novellas. Two collections with third coming after Steven finishes two more novellas.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
I didn't forget. I mentioned the novellas once in the video. 😁 That said, I haven't read the novellas at all so i can't know the significance of it.
@heretic124 Жыл бұрын
@@PetrikLeo Sorry, must have missed that. I've read only the first three novellas and there's no significance to the main plot but the further it goes the more absurd and funny the stories seem to get. First novella was nothing special but The Healthy Dead was absolutely hilarious to the point I was laughing out loud at places which Erikson didn't manage even in his spoof Star Trek trilogy. It's similar to Tehol and Bugg type of humor except much more morbid.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
@@heretic124 no worries! And noted. I will have to include that in my reread of the series, too! Sounds fun! 😂
@Rogue_VI Жыл бұрын
Dust of Dreams was also my least liked book of BotF. Toll the Hounds was my favorite.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Yeahhh I struggled a LOT through Dust of Dreams. Almost made me give up!
@punypunny 11 ай бұрын
Why the delete? Thought I was just trying to inform of this great deal.
@PetrikLeo 11 ай бұрын
I did not delete anything. Do note that if you include link in the comment (I assume you included Humble Bundle?) KZfaq will automatically delete the comment.
@punypunny 11 ай бұрын
@@PetrikLeo Sorry Saudara! I'm a noob at comments! Just wanted to say Erikson's Malazan Book of the Fallen series is on Humble Bundle for USD18 (or USD1 for the first ebook) for the next two weeks. I thought it's a steal, and I bought the set this morning.
@PetrikLeo 11 ай бұрын
@@punypunny no worries! Yup. I will mention Humble Bundle Malazan in my next SFF Spotlight video tomorrow!
@assassin415 Жыл бұрын
im eager to start this series but im worried I will cry a lot from what i hear
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
That probably will happen. It's brutal. 😅
@moresoysauce5489 11 ай бұрын
I'm reading deadhouse gates right now and you can tell the writing improved so much, but honestly, I'm bored as shit. I never got bored in Gardens, confused? Yes, a lot. Bored? No. Deadhouse has been a drag so far, hope it gets good soon.
@PetrikLeo 11 ай бұрын
Interesting! Many readers tend to feel more invested in Deadhouse Gates than Gardens of the Moon I hope it will turn out better for you! IF Memories of Ice doesn't compel you as well, I think it's safe to say Malazan won't be a series for you. :)
@moresoysauce5489 11 ай бұрын
@@PetrikLeo hey Petrik thanks for responding! I just got to Act 3, I hear it's all about the ending though so I'm looking forward to understanding what the point is! I think my problem is he spends very little time with the characters/plots I'm interested in (mappo/icarium & sorry/fiddler's group) and a LOT of time with the characters/plots that I don't care about (basically everyone else involved in the rebellion). I loved the epic magic & characters & warren diving from GotM and also the assassin/intruige plots, dragons, gods, it's just epic as shit. The PoV jumped around so much that I never got bored because Erikson literally doesn't give you any time to haha. So much happens in GotM that it would take me a while to explain it to someone. I could tell you everything that has happened in Deadhouse gates so far in like 5 sentences haha. It's just much slower and I don't like the characters or think that the plot is interesting (so far). Love your channel bro!
@mikesbookreviews Жыл бұрын
Make sure you have your Excel spreadsheets ready.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
LOL. I didn't have any opened. 🤣
@mikesbookreviews Жыл бұрын
@@PetrikLeo Oh man, I had to the first 5 books. So many characters.
@BooksRebound Жыл бұрын
Idk how far youve read of Esslemont but you should try his Path to Ascendancy series. I fucking hated his writing. I think Night of Knives is probably the worst, most amateur writing I've ever read from a big traditional publisher. He has this thing where he does relative clause attachment ambiguity where you dont know what the object of the sentence is. But his writing really really has improved over the years and by now his Path to Ascendancy series actually has good writing thats worth reading.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
I will give Path to Ascendandy a try. Most likely on my Malazan reread someday. I was insanely underwhelmed by Night of Knives and Return of the Crimson Guard.
@BooksRebound Жыл бұрын
@@PetrikLeo Yeah I agree both of those books absolutely SUCK. He got decent around book 4 and actually got good by the PtA trilogy. I think it's actually worth reading PtA before a reread of the main ten, because it gives you so much backstory about the first 100yrs of imperial history with how the empire got started and expanded.
@s.p.8508 Жыл бұрын
I still can’t motivate myself to get to Midnight Tides after the massive disappointment of House of Chains. I read it like 6 months ago, and that ending…. Oof. I want to get back to it, but every time I think of House of Chains I just can’t motivate myself to continue.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
I totally understand. I was so disappointed by House of Chains, too. But Midnight Tides and Bonehunters are so worth the push. They're amazing. I hope you will continue! :D
@s.p.8508 Жыл бұрын
@@PetrikLeo I really hope so too, because 1-3 were incredible.
@blablade56675 Жыл бұрын
22:30 damn petrik thinks very dark things in books save the book for him? Bruh
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Huh? I said it did not save the book.
@blablade56675 Жыл бұрын
@@PetrikLeo why would that save it though? Lol
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
@@blablade56675 that's... a good point. 🤣 Usually when darker things in the previous books of the series happens, the story tend to feel more engaging and intense. But that wasn't enough here. It was still pretty boring. I hope that make sense!
@jeffgagnon1983 Жыл бұрын
To me, the serie went downhill after the Bonehunters. It seems the plot points dont have focus, and there is so much characters who are just rambling all the time. They seem to always ask retorical questions then taking forever to answer themselves the question nobody asked them in the first place, and it happens all the time ! Even the first 80 % of The crippled God was tough for me. Robin Hobb's serie was way more consistent imo and stuck the landing.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
Totally understand your take. I definitely felt what you said in Reaper's Gale and Dust of Dreams! The HUGE number of characters made some of the character's voice felt similar, too. I can agree Assassin's Fate is a masterful conclusion to Realm of the Elderlings!
@ljgenes 11 ай бұрын
Dude, there is so much padding in your presentation and wording, minutes upon minutes of nothing-burgers that can be skipped without missing a beat...
@PetrikLeo 11 ай бұрын
Pardon me. English is my 3rd language. Feel free to not watch my video if it bores you, though! 😊
@ljgenes 11 ай бұрын
@@PetrikLeo Oh I didn't watch it. After about the first 4 minutes, I mean. Though I'm sure you'll easily get better with time because you seem to be very smart. (Edit: And if you are willing to take a criticism or two.)
@manzanogianni4935 Жыл бұрын
I am about to finish House of Chains and I have enjoyed this series very much. My rankings, so far, and this may raise some eyebrows are: 1) Memories of Ice 2) Gardens of the Moon 3) House of Chains 4) Deadhouse Gates The whole Coltain/Chain of Dogs did not resonate with me like it did with many others. I have enjoyed all the books but find it a lot “easier” to follow my favorite cast from Gardens. I vetted this series by watching videos on Malazan for at least a year and a half. I just don’t have the money to spend or the time to commit without vetting a series as “thoroughly” as possible. Videos by you, Jimmy, Philip, and A.P. went a long way to convincing me that there was a good possibility that I would stick through this series. Now I will admit that I am a slow reader. It has taken me 4-6 weeks to finish each installment and I have found having another series like the Dresden Files to read in between as a good break between installments. We yeah, that is my Malazan journey so far and it has been a great one. Thanks for the video Petrik🤓
@williamjankowski9542 Жыл бұрын
When I first read all of Malazan Book of the Fallen, I also alternated with Dresden Files last year. Malazan is still by far my favorite series. I was hooked from the prologue of Gardens of the Moon. I hope you end up enjoying the rest of the series as much as I did.
@PetrikLeo Жыл бұрын
You're welcome, and thank you ao much! Nothing wrong with the ranking, friend. Glad to hear you loved Memories of Ice the most so far! Really pleased our videos are helpful to you reading the series. Take your time with Malazan, and I hope you continue to have a blast with it!
@manzanogianni4935 11 ай бұрын
Updated ranking at the half-way point: 1) Memories of Ice 2) Midnight Tides 3) Gardens of the Moon 4) Deadhouse Gates 5) House of Chains
@PetrikLeo 11 ай бұрын
@@manzanogianni4935 Great ranking! Deadhouse Gates is above GotM for me, but other than that we agree! :)
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