I personally think she got breast implants and can't keep thinking about it after this last comeback. It's just too obvious. I think you can preach body positivity as long as you admit the work you had done. I don't see anything wrong with surgery, but I do think it's bad when celebrities deny it and make everyone believe they look that great naturally.

I have friends in LA. Attractive, down-to-earth, grounded friends. They're mortals, not celebrities. They gave in and had some work done, I discovered recently. It's almost impossible to be surrounded by "gorgeous" and not try to be "gorgeous" yourself. I can't even imagine the pressures if that is your career/industry, especially for women and girls.

To add: Another point to bring up about her being a self-love icon is the song Maria. You might just immediately think Maria = I love myself, but actually it's Maria = please love yourself. Maria is a song that actually talked about how Maria hated herself because of how other people treated her. That's why she wrote this song to herself, asking Maria to love herself more because that's what she deserves. I think that's why it became anthemic. She, herself, is also struggling to come to love herself completely. That's why the song became such a hit because it resonated to all the other people who's going through the same thing.

Self love is quite literally what is called. SELF love. I get that some or most people want to know EVERYTHING idols do so they can take inspiration into their own lives, or just feel like they should know it all, but they don’t owe us anything. Self love is up to each individual. We must take care of ourselves and whatever it is that we do, should be done to make us happy and/or for our own mental health. Hwasa has been criticized and bullied for her looks throughout all of her career so no one has the right to tell her what she should and shouldn’t do regarding plastic surgery. It’s her body. Self love does not equal being all natural and having NO plastic surgery. If you compare your body to these idols to make you feel better or worse about yourself, you should be working on your OWN self love. Be kind to yourself and others. 💙💙💙

“I love my body” but gets a whole bunch of plastic surgery along with breast implants. I like Hwasa but you gotta preach something you genuinely mean.

I'm not sure why people think that if she claims to be her own standard, that it somehow has to be completely different than any other standard. Her standard of beauty is a personal one. And it's only for her. She doesn't ask others to live to hers, and doesn't want to be held to someone else's. And if standards overlap, so what, it doesn't mean that it isn't legitimate. That somehow they are being disingenuous. I myself had cosmetic dentistry done when I was younger. Not because I was trying to impress anyone else. I had no issues attracting partners. I just didn't like the look of my teeth in the mirror. So I changed that. Doesn't mean I can't love myself. Love my physical appearance just because I had it modified. Ironically, by saying that unless she is unchanged, that she is exactly the way she was made that she can't legitimately claim she loves her body. How nice of you people to set a standard for her to meet in order to gain your approval. Why not just accept the message for what it is, and forget about shooting the messenger.

As a person that has had a nose job, I can tell you that people that go through plastic surgery for esthetic purposes are definitely not at the top of the "love yourself" preach. We do love ourselves, but we changed stuff for a reason and one reason only. Doesn't matter how much they try to convince you they love themselves just they way they are, it is not true. My friends who got something done agreed with me last time we talked. You see, I changed my nose because I hated it, as simple as that. I was bullied as a teenager, received comments that didn't ask for, and was the "ugly" sister to my family. I couldn't even let other people take pictures of me from the side, just believe me it was honestly really ugly. And now that almost a year has passed, I love how it looks, but I still think of other things that I don't necessarily like about myself and what I could do to improve them. Everyone, EVERYONE right after one surgery gets those kind of thoughts, even if we don't get other procedures at the end. I can't say that I don't love myself because of course I feel like I do, but my own values wouldn't let me practice a career where my motto is to "love yourself" while I'm constantly receiving beauty treatments or procedures that change my appearance and I'm not honest about them with the people that support my business. Anyway, plastic surgery saved my self esteem, but nowadays I try not to buy or follow anything from artists that preach to us about self-love while at the surgeon's office (and either hide or straight up deny them).

The problem is not the surgeries, the problem is that she sells herself as a "self-confident" woman when she is not, she already had surgery on her face, on her body, it's hypocrisy, but come on, all this shit worked for her to be popular even if she lie to her fans and world.

Wow, this vide was more insightful than I thought it would be. I thought this would be like those other "cosmetic surgery analysis" videos that would basically just say the artist got everything done and you should hate them for it. I appreciate how you worded your sentences in the video in a way that didn't rag on the artist. My thoughts on the topic: - Honestly, the work Hwasa has done to her face isn't really that noticeable until you scrutinize it. I am a Moomoo myself, and I didn't notice 90% of the face things you pointed out, mainly because I think she didn't get them drastically modified, just enough to enhance what she already had. The only one thing I consciously noticed before this video was the chest one. I believe we first saw it during the Somebody! music video with Loco. - I feel like apart from that concert clip where she shared how she got rejected for being chubby, it was really the rest of us who put her in the pedestal of a "self-love icon." Not saying that she isn't, as we have seen how her success became inspiration for all other people who look up to her that has similar complexion, similar face, or just a similar situation where their physique was the reason of rejection and discrimination. Despite everything, I think it's quite noticeable how Hwasa still struggled a lot with the KPOP idols' dieting culture, crash dieting for comebacks that lead them to binge eating. I think having the place of one of the self-love icons in the industry, from what it looks like it might have also burdened her as there were probably times she still didn't love herself, her body, her skin completely. Which I think is natural to go through such ups and downs, especially in her line of work where "body positivity" is celebrated but at the same time you still NEED to be skinny when you appear on TV. You know what I mean? - People who have done cosmetic modifications/enhancements advocating self-love is a *gray area* in my opinion. There are purists/absolutists who believe you wouldn't need to go through such physical changes manually if you truly loved yourself. However, we cannot just dismiss the fact that body dysmorphia is a real thing, whether you have the BDD mental disorder, or just genuinely feel like a part of your body doesn't make you feel 100% you. To me, people who undergo cosmetic surgery TO LOOK like other people (to look more caucasian, American, or even Korean as Asian fishing is also now a thing) those people I would feel weird about calling them advocates of self-love. However for cases like Hwasa, who seems to have done such changes to enhance things they already have, who seems to be just more confident in their own skin now with changes they chose themselves FOR themselves, I think there's no harm in still looking up to her and to them as your models of self-love.

hwasa's work is nicely done. at least she didn't do any drastic changes to herself. but the botox is unnecessary rlly bc she rlly doesn't look that old... anyways, i will always find it kind of funny some ppl have dismissed these changes as a result of "growing up"... all these lies abt puberty bringing these changes have truly distorted everybody's views about what actually happens to your facial features when u grow up. this is how we get young ppl expecting puberty to make them as pretty as their idols, only to be disappointed.

I am dissapointed to hear that, but then again, I was dumb enough to think that a Kpop idol can be natural and that is my fault.

Saying that you will create a new beauty standard is just the same as trying to get someone to adhere to the old ones. If she was that confident about her appearance, she would not correct anything at all. Kpop profits from looks.

Honesetly, people with self love and self acceptance don't need plastic surgery. They against it.

Wonder if you’ll ever do a deep dive on Solar… I do believe the pressure for being the only Mamamoo member fitting the beauty standards was too harsh on her, I remember when she released Honey I didn’t recognize her in most thumbnails :(

Idols/celebs who preach self-love/acceptance while getting work done in the same vein is nothing new tbh. I mean, DUH!! It would actually be more surprising to me if she preached/sung ab that stuff and was really all natural, *especially* in the industry that she’s in. The work is subtle and she still looks recognizable, so kudos to her!

Thank you for bringing awareness. I think it's dishonest from her to not talk about it and I'm disappointed. I will express what I don't like and why but I won't stop supporting her. Love 💖

Maybe this is a controversial opinion, but I believe if it makes you happy then there's no problem. Of course there's a difference between having plastic surgery due to health issues and purely cosmetic reasons, but I don't think there's any harm in getting plastic surgery if it makes you feel more confident and happy about yourself. Although there should be concern if it gets obsessive or excessive, and impossible beauty standards does have an obvious impact on influential groups like teenagers or in this case kpop idols, is it really that harmful if doing the procedure makes someone happier and more confident in themselves

To be human is to have contradictions and hypocrisy. Yes you can still talk about self love while getting cosmetic procedures. Even if you do not follow your own message, you can help someone else who needs to hear those words.

i think it's fairly obvious that she's had recent work done on her chest, perhaps as a result of being hyper-sexualized by the public and wanting to uphold that image. however, i'm not shaming anyone's potential procedures bc i don't believe that little tweaks here and there are truly antithetical to the idea of self-love. i believe everyone has their own individual aesthetic based on their natural features and wanting to "enhance" it is something i can understand. to me, it's the people who clearly want to look like someone they're not that raise concern (often the ones who repeatedly get things done and show perpetual dissatisfaction with themselves). to me, hwasa doesn't fit in this category. other than aging she's had the same face since debut and has always seemed confident with who she is despite the avalanche of criticism. when she wrote maria she became a symbol of loving not just your body but also who you are as a person, going from a B to a D cup doesn't change that lol.

Omg please make more of these !!!

I think the question at the end lacks nuance, like asking if someone who eats meat should be allowed to promote animal rights. Ultimately, I think it's dispicable that multiple industries exist to create and uphold beauty standards. If these stars don't look the part they'll be replace with someone who does no matter how they got the look. Executives don't care how many surgeries you get until the public cares, until or unless it affects their bottom line. They're the ones who create this place where such a juxtaposition, of a person with a bunch of surgery saying "love yourself as you are" can thrive, and we, the stars and the consumers prop it up. I don't think it's fair to lie to someone who doesn't realize they're being lied to, like all of us before surgery analysis became trendy. But now the cat is out of the bag and WE ALL know about it, is anyone more blameless than anyone else?

She went against her own saying "If I can't fit the standard, I will become the standard" and then goes to fit a standard by making her facial features even, by getting the hourglass body shape, by putting on lighter shades of foundation. She ruined herself in my eyes. As harsh as it sounds, I can't look up to her as I used to. We all loved her for being HER but after Maria era she pushed all the years of hard work to stay true to her natural beauty and talent down the drain.

Hwasa really look different with make up or no make up

The only thing that truly bothers me about her look is the lips. Goes overboard with whatever she’s doing with her bottom lip and overlining them in excrement-brown color doesn’t help.

I don't blame her everyone here even b ,c list celebrities gets work done it's impossible not to unless you are born the beauty standard or have very High confidence on your work . And also i don't she ever said openly don't change your self or this messiah of body positivity , she just explained a part of her past life ...i think the fans were all who put all those narratives .

Lo que sea que se hizo le quedo precioso y no es exagerado como en otros casos donde idols quedan totalmente irreconocibles. Igual le diría que no se toque más los labios, actualmente hay una moda de agrandarse los labios y quedan enormes y no muy estéticos. Ojalá no se haga nada drástico drástico el futuro y no sienta la presion de la sociedad por cambiar porque ahora mismo está hermosa ♡

can you please do Mamamoo Wheein too🙏🏼

I really liked your analysis 💖💖 Can you do JAEHYUN from NCT next time?😍😍

Hi,i want to ask about nose bump/hump. Is this possible after getting rhinoplasty,people still maintain their nose bump/hump?

This "discoloration" in eye corner is makeup

2:34 i get injections to hide that 😂 you always want what you dont have

Self acceptance doesn’t mean no plastic surgery. It’s just means she’s having the looks that she’s comfortable with and not conforming to others’ standard be it achieved naturally or thru plastic surgery.

Kpop and other stars do surgery so I don't have to tbh. People should advocate for natural beauty pre op or post op... it doesn't matter. Get surgery if you want b/c some people really don't like the way they look or feel societal pressures. Only way to discover yourself is to "fck around and find out."

I see all K-pop idols body part change in evey year expect hwasa

La mayoria de idols se nota que se hicieron cirugia ortognatica y no tiene nada de malo pero los fans se re enojan

Siyeon from Dreamcatcher please 🙏

Self-love doesn't mean you need to stay or keep your look the way you look. Even the most confident people you think of still undergo their own self-criticism to themseleve whether physical or not. It's not being a hypocrite, it's being human. Why do we change our hairstyles or put on makeup or oyher clothes if we already "love ourselves"? Maybe its because we WANT to do those because it makes us feel better, it makes us feel ourselves. This applies the same to plastic surgery. I think people need to realize that plastic surgery isn't all that bad unless it harms you. Self-love doesn't always have to reflect through physical means.

Honestly, I think a part of self love is doing whatever the hell you want to your body. So no, it's not a sham, and I think you should stop trying to bait people with titles like these.

i dont get why people care so much about idols surgeries its practically an requirement to be an idol, like who cares

humans are filled with contradictions. you can love yourself, or at least try your hardest to, and still be affected by the judgments of ppl all around you. as long as someone isn’t trying to look like someone completely different, i think it’s okay to enhance a feature or two if it would help your self esteem

a child vs grown woman

I do not believe hwasa has gotten plastic surgery, its just some lip fillers. She admitted to have started getting meridian massages on a show. She said the massage was very brutal and hurt alot. After recovering from the massage sessions during her vacations, when she came back to work her makeup artist commented how her face looked smaller compared to before. We as outsiders know nothing unless and until the idols themselves reveal stuff. Its better to stop speculating about others' bodies and creating rumours based on what we see.

If u have watch some vedios of mamamoo members they are more prettier with out make up thats why i like them no big changes of surgeries in hwasa interview said if he perform he likes to pout her lips and raised his brows 😅 he really looks different with make up vs no make up

she has money, and this not impact my life. so what? 😅 you can see all her music is about her worries and insecurity. Not cause she's a perfect person, like I'm a v is about how media and people portrayed her

hawasa

WHY not make videos about plastic dolls like blackpink and twice

About Hwasa's breasts lately, i think it's just her bra 😂😂 the teaser for "Just Talking to Myself" (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fJZ9n8yk1rvcfnk.html) for her Hwasa Show just released now, and her boobs are not that big compared to her latest promotion appearances and all. IMO, self-love depends on your definition like self-love can also mean making yourself feel beautiful by your own standards, be it be enhancing it or watever, OR, it can also mean just simply being contented with what you have. ✌✌🤷‍♀

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Hawasa...... 🤨

her work is well done. I hope you post more videos despite the backlash from all the inbred 12 year olds that don't know left from right. this is the kind of stuff people need to be in the know about, especially people that refuse to acknowledge the atrocities that occur all the time bc of this industry.

So where is the line? I got my haircut yesterday, does that mean I don't love my body and can't preach about body positivity? What about make up? Hair extensions or coloring? What if I decided I need to shed a few pounds to fit into my clothes instead of going out and buying bigger ones? Are all the things I listed not permanent so they don't count? Tattooed eyeliner is semi permanent. How about having a wart removed from the middle of your forehead? Maybe it's more about the reasons we make improvements to our appearance. And try as we might I don't think any of the public has a clue why she has made any of the changes. Maybe she has made changes to herself to meet her own standard of beauty 🤔. Ya maybe we are too quick to judge when we don't the slightest fuckin idea what she feels or why she does things she does.

Lisa plastic surgery jisoo plastic surgery make a video

So because she had work done she doesn’t love herself and y’all really tryna sit there and convince somebody that they don’t love there self. WOW! Ok say she had work. So what, it’s her body she can do whatever the hell she wants with it. She still Iives up to her own standards. Looking at her nose it didn’t really change much, her lips are still small just a little more plump, her eyes look the same, maybe she had her breast done ole well, why yall looking at her titties anyway, and because she lost some weight it’s a problem that she doesn’t look the same as she did 7 years ago….. yall have gotta stop creating stuff like this to drag ppl down when there at the top.

Why does she need to talk about her body her face. This video is disgusting every other idol has plastic surgery from every girl group why is it hwasa responsibility to tell the world her surgeries if she feels comfortable and confident good for her -

It's 100% a sham lol

What are you talking about? So should a balding hair stylist still be a hair stylist? Should a KZfaq channel with less than 200 subscribers still be calling themselves a KZfaqr? So if she “just” loss the weight, could she still talk about body positivity? Or would you continue to question her? People love Hwasa because she’ll do WHATEVER she wants. And she does it well. For your benefit going forward I suggest using words like “allegedly”

it's really none of your business

i think no surgeries of hwasa no deffirence just the make up

Hwasa just grew up not plastic surgery

She literally just lost weight and grew up.. Yall are weird. She looks the same..

In my opinion, you can love yourself and still want to “improve” your looks. I think plastic surgery CAN be a result of insecurity, but not always. Sometimes ppl just think “hey I’m beautiful, but I would like a different nose, it would make me feel even better & more confident.” Also, maybe Hwasa preaches a lot about self love cuz it’s something she struggles with a lot, I’ve been there before. It’s like those kinda situations where you can give your friends really good advice, but have a hard time listening to yourself lmao. It’s something you personally struggle with so you wanna help others so they won’t struggle like you do (once again… been there before). At the end of the day, Hwasa is in a super competitive, shallow industry that is always gonna value looks over talent. I can understand why she would get work done, it doesn’t mean her self-love preaches are a sham. I’m sure she does love herself (at least to a certain extent); and we have to give her credit for being tan & thicc which is against SK beauty standards. She’s still going against the beauty standards, even if she got some work done. (But honestly, what idol hasn’t?)

it's so funny to me that your descriptions always say 'stay respectful :)' yet the entire basis of your videos are inherently so so disrespectful to the idols you're talking about.