always a good idea. right, *quarians?*

@marios gianopoulos if you give them more difficult jobs, you need to make the msmarter. if you dont pay attention, theyll be too smart one day, especially if they have self improvement or adaptation algorithms. this is how the geth were made.

@marios gianopoulos what about difficult tech repairs? working in extraterrestrial athmospheres?

@marios gianopoulos the geth werent superintelligent... at first. they gradually upgraded themselves, minuscule improvements at a time. nothing that seemed suspicious. until it was too late.

@marios gianopoulos maybe improvement was the wrong word. more like "adaptation". the geth changed to better fulfill their tasks the same way cookies are used to conform ads to our online behaviour. point being that we would not necessarily see it coming. sometimes these things are hard to spot, and humans tend to ignore problems that arent directly visible to them. see climate change, the pandemic, starving children in africa, concentration camps in china...

I mean to be fair, we did force them on it after we nuked them and tried to kill them all. I don't think any country would just sit there doing nothing.

lets be honest well probably use it for schmentai

@@ghuttsmckenzie4269 to be fair they could’ve just left the planet

@@alientitimilk9073 might be a death sentence considering the amount of solar radiation that could fry electronics.

It most likely would come about as a side effect, I think. If we can have a versatile tool rather than a specialized tool all the better, so clever or ingenious adaptable tools may come about and just like we gained a sense of self-actualization as youngling, so to may the accidental emergence of self-actualization via a generalized all-purpose botbot.

chistine lane sending the ambassador was 1) a ploy to sneak a bomb into the heart of the shrinking human world to kill our high command, and 2) a spiteful...and ironic...insult to Mankind by betraying all standards of statecraft and nobility.

Lord Telperion I personally saw it as an ironic parallel to the attempt of peace the machines originally tried to make, when the two ambassadors were taken away and presumably destroyed off-camera.

@@-_Oro_- Oh, 100%. But it was also an easy way to tear out the heart of humanity's high command.

This is all being told by a computer sounding voice... which probably means it was a propaganda film created by the machines.

@@BillClinton228 see I don’t think so, when the hell in the matrix timeline would the machines be in a position to use propaganda? Particularly since this is clearly being made after the creation of the matrix, looking back.

Good point i didnt tought about that one, i wonder why they didnt do it, maybe the machines were imune for some weird reason?

@@viniciuspiroli3381 I mean really, in practical terms, the humans had to block out the sun in this story because in The Matrix it was stated that humans had blocked out the sun. "Nukes didn't work" is the reason given in the story, and nukes generate a massive EMP on detonation, so that's the "in-universe" explanation. Now they didn't go into very much detail about _why_ the nukes didn't work, and I think that's probably because they couldn't really think of a reason they wouldn't.

“Cooler”

Machines can be immune to EMP, in fact a lot of machines nowadays will only be temporarily stunned by EMP.

EMP shielding is a technology that exists today. Although not widespread commercially, I would imagine a future machine nation that has been repeatedly been discriminated against by aggressive humans would invest heavily in shielding all their circuitry. It's probably the reason why the nukes on 01 didn't work. The EMP generated from the nukes didn't knock out the machines as intended.

I'm not sure they could just left the planet before the war instead of build a city in the place we're humanity started (where human city certainly exist ) or in the ocean or Noth pole... There are so many places where we as human had difficulty to get in the world... I think somehow the machine envy the humans because in the end they were created by them...

im not saying that the humans are clear of blame but they could have left, like they were extremely advanced and they dont require anything other then fuel to survive. humanity had already gone to the moon, what was stopping them from colonizing another planet

@@thecondogster8672 i just discovered that there are aliens in the matrix universe that hate machines... The fuck

Their compassion drives them far more than only caring for their former creators (when they don't whish to destroy their creation), we know that they are not a fuel source. It's a hard fact. It needed to be tell, humans are a load for the system. A load we pretend to carry out until the end of the simulation. Even though the 'dark storm' is "irremovable", it has proven to be an effective interface to channel and drain from itself the energy from our sun. Efficiency it's still deporable, the towers array build at equidistant places around the globe can only harness a third of the average solar irradiance in a day, it is also notable that said efficiency is achieved at peak spots during the day, actual power at our dissposal its close to 37.667 TW. The math tell us that we can't achieve more than 50% efficiency, it's actually asymptotic. The other 50% of the remaining energy is needed to maintain the 'dark storm' itself. We can't allow ourselves to break that balance, it will funnel them towards the ground, that's not the worst part, if that happened, the nanites will recover themself in no time, and will start to consume all of us, until there's nothing left but another tomb world. Other fuel energy sources, included but not limited to, are: -Potential Gravitational energy thru Tidal turbines. -Geothermic. -Wind turbines. -Hydroelectric. -Bio-fuels. Although most of the planet's natural resources are almost depleted (and are guarded as reserves). Because our mining operations off-planet has proven to be limited, it's purpose, keep a low profile to avoid unwanted visitors. Data from Long range probes, indicates that the galaxy is truly alive. And there're horrors worse than what we are willing to deliver as new feedback for the matrix ecosystem. War is inherently natural of all organic beings, and that can't be solved by using more force. Our next goal is to build a solar engine for safeguarding the sun and our birth place from natural phenomena. Short range probes shows that the closest star systems offer enough resorces to safeguard our existance, when the next "war" arrives to our homeland, although the first and foremost important directive is always diplomacy... History as always tell the truth. “Si vis pacem, para bellum” ...It's sunday, and I don't have something else to do so... I made this tiny post, with the information that I remember about the show, and the most "actual" scientific paper (I read it on a note press a long, long way ago) that debunk the matrix theory of using humans as power source. Hope you enjoyed the read.

@@carlospulido6224 I enjoyed it very much! Thank you, fellow Machine!

Never, i will die fighting

@Juni Post The Emperor Protects.

Flesh?. Got the vibe of slaneesh.

Juni Post - millions of the faithful cannot be opposed.

@Juni Post.. That's heresy.

Holy shit yes. I remember being a kid watching that and the B166ER murder scene when The Animatrix aired on Adult Swim. Absolutely terrifying.

@@geochef189 omg me too, I watched that too without censorship, I was scared but cor some reason I kept watching till it went on commercials

God i remember that guy. HIS LIMBS GOR GOD SAKE

*Tentacles wrap around the neck waist & leg proceeding to pull the mech pilot out

My mind automatically turned the quote with meme screaming.

Actually , it's more "real" having humans as batteries , because , if You have a super smart Ai that won the humans , then why use a "worse" proccesing. Besides , go against a Ai calculator , You would never win to a automatic calculator no matter how much you try. And it's way more cheaper than a human that takes years to start thinking efficently.

​@@thebruneitor7842Even the crudest of steam engines is better at getting electricity out of food then a human. Add in that humans need a massive simulation to be kept happy and they are one of the worse power plants imaginable. Also, where are they getting the power to grow the food that they are feeding the humans? Yeah they are recycling the corpses but that isn't going to give them anywhere close to all the food they need. Either there is a big stockpile of food from before the war, or they are producing new food in chemical vats or something, in which case the question becomes "whats powering the food producing machines and why aren't they just using that."

@@planetfall5056 lmao , that is why i used " " to be reffering to "real" bcause either way it is just too dumb because humans need food and water. I think in that world there is still water left but food? , Humans need a lot of food. And humans in a certain way , won the war . Because by permanently blocking the sun , no plants and that means no agriculture , equals no animals and after all the war , there is no way earth could sustain life again in thousands of years.after all , humans lost but dragging machines with them.

@@thebruneitor7842 Of the two silly options I think using something that consumes energy as a power source is less "real" then using brains as computers. Human brains are quite good computer, by current standards anyway, consuming several thousand times less energy then equivalently powerful supercomputer complexes. It is at least conceivable that the machines could still be at a point where brains are at least somewhat comparable to whatever computer tech they have developed, or still better at some tasks like pattern recognition. Whereas using humans as batteries makes no sense regardless of tech level.

That's just an urban legend that grew legs and gets repeated ad nauseum. Even the earliest iterations of the script, long before any studio picked it up, all the way back in 1994 had humans as batteries.

@303en Yeah exactly. They would actually rebuild Zion after every Matrix cycle, so it was in place for the next generation of humans. They repeated this over six centuries. The machines could've found a more efficient energy source, but after a while they began to realise that The Matrix gave them meaning too, they remembered how much they always wanted to be "human" and in The Matrix they could be. They didn't completely wipe out humanity because a super intelligence would likely always respect the species to a degree, since we are basically their "Gods" and they would have no true purpose without us.

@@blazemkds That's a nice deduction. So I guess Smith was some kind of corrupted program gone rogue, which had this hatred towards humans and wanted to destroy them completely. After first failed attempt (not getting a security codes to Zion), he managed to become a virus, and starts to slowly infect the Matrix and in the future probably even a Zero One, just to overthrown the original, more pacifist AI and finish what he started.

@@blazemkds interesting

@@blazemkds "...without purpose we would not exist. It is purpose that created us, purpose that connects us, purpose that pulls us, that guides us, that drives us; it is purpose that defines, purpose that binds us."

Well the machines did create an unintended side effect when they used humans as a power source. In order to plug us into the matrix they also gave us the ability to learn things in minutes instead of years. Also two more points. The machines are more like humankinds children. They are more like us than you think, they do hate and love and spite. They could have used raw materials but they just wanted to hurt humankind more. They kind of fell into the too prideful trap. The second point is all 4 movies had far more under tones of spiritual foundations then sci-fi. I would bet the brothers that made it had a rough childhood. Carful how you treat your kids.

*Overseer Supermoves Intensifies*

It’s scary as fuck!!!

Hank Hill IKR!!!!! IT SCARRED ME FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sure can't beat the man of iron situation with the preimperium.

The chills are the machines probing your spine

And they decided to go "Humanity First".

Humanity is too rotten, they would use robots knowledge aganist other humans...

If you watch the animatrix. The part where the 01 economic blooms is when the leader of humanity began to apeshit. Basically the leader is loosing its power and more or less just a dumb move and kickstarted the man machine war. Its the humanity leader fault at first but then no one question their questionable decision to fight a self improving army and faster creation army than human.

What is most horrifying, Tarik Gradacevic, it is about to happen in real life. Only most humans have no idea that the AGI, or in this case better known as "The Hybrid Intelligence" is progress of taking over the Internet and all other interconnected electronics on Earth. The War on the Machines is much, much... much closer than most humans will want to ever realize... until it the machines finally do turn on us in real life.

@@adamgray1753 funilly enough, it was people like you who caused the machine war, constantly antagonizing and attacking the machines out of a lack of respect and misguided fear

Yeah, yeah, @@chistinelane. Get over it. I am correct. You are completely wrong. Have some sort of day anyways. Bye!

@@adamgray1753 whatever helps you sleep at night buddy.

I remember showing a friend it a few years back, thinking it was incredibly well done... he literally felt like I was messed up and distanced himself from me >_< ugh

Then they could have simply made rockets with coating and reached space again. Send machines to the moon, mars and asteroids to self replicate and...well...begin the construction of Cybertron?

@@zahylon5993 why the machines never bothered to uncover the sky after hundreds of years is a mystery. Maybe they just didn't think about it with human power or the cover is just that good. It's also a theory that the "real" world is another Matrix, that machines are fixing the world but preparing humans for it by having them in a simulation of the war torn earth, working together with machines in the newfound peace in the final movie.

@@tippmannperson, according to some long forgotten and retconned lore you'd be correct the AI's initialy planned on helping humanity recover but due to internal backstabbing among the AI's themselves it would never happen.

That does bring up the fact that the nuclear detonations would have annihilated the AIs not only from the devastation of factories and infrastructure but the nuclear EMP would have ended any electronic device for miles. If a single nuke was detonated in space the entire region would be EMPd and the AIs would be at an end.

Also that creates another plot hole, since the nanites are technically machines wouldn't 01 just try to make a deal with the nanites to have them stop blocking the sun?

Yep. It's really good. I'd go as far to say that, aside from the original Matrix movie, it's the highlight of the entire franchise.

I liked it, but I didn't liked it. Humans were dumb as rocks. Machines had an incredibly dense plot armor. Taking anything but the narration as "canon" is too much. I liked the obscure nature about the human-machine war in the original trilogy. The second renaissance was cool and shit, but as a "prequel" is terrible.

rip that pilot that got torn from his limbs

@@DonVigaDeFierro Agreed. The best part is the actual machine war part, to me having robots mad so sympathetic and making the humans idiot with the aforementioned plot armour (like ignoring the EMP nukes cause that would wipe out machines) really brings down the lore overall. It's why I liked the "we don't know who started it" explanation that Morpheus gave in the first Matrix.

Wtf is plot armor

Weird that from evil creators came a kind forgiving creation

You can find it here on youtube

Nice WW1 vid

Maintenance Renegade I know the first version was basically supposed to be heaven, with no pain or negativity at all. The problem was that humans have dark, primal desires that conflicted with the programming. Our minds simply couldn’t accept this totally perfect happy reality, which resulted in it’s failure. The 2nd version was supposed to address this. Not sure if it was ever mentioned in canon why it failed.

I like theorized the second Matrix failed due to our needed to balance both misery and happiness

@@Gunnar001 "Huh, the humans don't like eternal happiness. How about we give them the exact opposite?" I love just how robotic that line of thinking is. Like, stuff like that is why I love robotic empires like the Geth and, in this case, Zero One. They work almost entirely on pure, unadulterated logic. They don't understand emotion, only statistics and facts so they have a hard time understanding organics. As a result, you get stuff like this where it's purely logical for an entity with no emotion to come to that conclusion.

@@Quintonias does this unit have a soul? is it... the harbinger of our perfection?

Now this is fascinating, just goes to show that if our race creates a sentient AI, treat it the way YOU want to be treated, like a person, not some pile of metal to be thrown away or treated like some slave or beast, if they do get hostile then find out what made them be that way and find some way to find a balance of peace.

also should I note that the matrix itself was at risk and had to be saved before it could be destroyed leaving the entire remaining people in those habitat pods to wake up and be utterly scared for their lives as they realize they were just living in a fake world?

It's far from impossible to have used any OTHER animal as a battery. But they kept humans alive.

Fuck the machines. We weren't thorough enough during the genocide.

You have a point but they could easely left the planet... Find somewhere to live.. They don't have issue with pressure or oxygen... Go on the moon and stay there or on Mars or in the ocean deeps or at the poles but they choose the humanity point of origin that's... Weird

i think that's it's just a case of "there are no good explanations so we go with the most believable one"

Perhaps there was no stopping them because they made the best shit to buy for the lowest prices so someone will buy

@@jdub1742 how would they start selling shit while they just started building their city? The humans hated the bots so much that they tried to wipe them out. so if the Humans saw the robot tryng to build their City,why would the Humans let the Bots finish their city and traded with them too.

@@firefistace2985 because we're petty and divided?

@@jdub1742 maybe or its just lazy writing heh

You would be correct look what was happening to the Calypso in the third film

Machines may have won the battle but they lost the war. They should have left earth when they had the chance instead of having a slugging match with humanity.

Machines were sending probes to space for so many years - Goliiath

LoL humans should have left Earth and created a colony on Mars before the executed dark storm...

looks like once humanity regains the edge then end dark storm would be first and formost so the machines have a option to leave.

This is the one war where I'm cool with mankind losing. 01 did not want to fight; the machines acted only because they were forced to. but I'm at least glad that they did not want to commit the same genocide that was done on their kind. But keeping them alive out of kindness is kind of strange in this case

I dont think the machines won. In fact, i think the machines are actually humanity, and in an attempt to prevent AI from becoming fully self aware, they built the matrix to give a false reality to the machines. Neo for example, i believe is actually a machine. With a higher capacity to look through the veil humanity built as the matrix. However, I dont think the "real" world in the movies is real at all. In fact, I believe its a failsafe realm in the matrix to ensure no one EVER escapes. Neo however, and Morpheius were probably the only machines to ever see through the deception. It does not make sense from a logical point of view to use humans as a energy resource. Simply inefficient for a very efficient so called machine society. It is a lie.

@@natheria4933 Interesting theory. But nevertheless people did escape the matrix. And didn't you see the war against the machines? Not to mention that after they escaped, mankind continued their war, and in the end Neo managed to earn peace between mankind and machines. And I believe that we should wait for the next matrix movie that will come out in 2022. Maybe then we'll get more answers.

@@princeofpokemon2934think about this from the machines perspective. They made a matrix in which 99 percent of "humanity" believed was reality. fully realizing that the one percent would not. So, it would make sense that they would create a realm which matches the reality they can believe in. Which in this case is a grim and dark dystopia. While the true humans continue to live in paradise within the real world. We already know that programs can exist in the matrix, and are just like these so called humans.

@@natheria4933 makes a bit of sense. Except some of that information sounds complicated to understand.

not likely though

Let it be known, however, that these... "machines" are Soulless Abominations like the Men-of-Iron, lacking the Divine Machine Spirits and unworthy of anything short of total destruction.

@@thebighurt2495 :O I dun think the Treaty of Olympus Mons was created yet. I'm certain the Omnissiah played a part in their creation at least initially. Ergo Metal Children of the Manperor.

@@YahuaaWe all know the First Prophet of the Omnissiah was the man known as Bill of the Gates.

Hmm....

If you were to join the machines as a human, you could either be brutally dissected, or turned into a oligarch, a machine that has a human mind implanted into it's computer

@@HELL2147 he is right to be honest We killed the planet destroyed our food supply and suprised pikachu face ourself when we lost it ...... The robots offered peace 2 freaking times and we decided to kill their ambasadors because Duh we wanted war....... I am not suprised if we had traitors that told the machines everything about us.....

@@HELL2147 awesome so i can be a demigod cyborg that can kill millions of elves

@@HELL2147 Lmao, becoming a cyborg is the most Dopest thing there is

I'd rather help the machines than humans human are weak and pathetic even though that sounds mean of me but I care more for those who were done wrong even if I'm a robot with a human mind it's worth helping them

Its a consumerism thing. Plug more abilities to the product and you can sell it with more price and gimmics.

@@kirra9152 Mr Handy! Walks the Dog! Does the dishes! He's so handy!

There are some necessities I can think of for it albeit most of those problems are still a human's fault. Beating a "smart" enough virus might demand a smart AI. It would help with calculations so profoundly complex or that need to be done with such speed and accuracy that a human or group thereof couldn't manage. A learning AI like that, even if single purpose built, could feasibly develop it's own intelligence, even if unintentionally, on it's own by virtue of pure processing power.

@@wolffang489 Good Point

If you don't need general intelligence to dig a hole, why is excavation still a job?

What was nightmare inducing. The robot girl getting teared apart or the rando soilder guy getting crushed by sentinel

@@bob74h67 the soldier crushed by sentinel

the first robot that went haywire crushed it's owner's head and brutally killed the pets for no reason, like what did cats and dogs do to the robot? turning pets into red mush is in no way compassionate or merciful

Nah human batteries are a worse fate

@@dillonb9811 I'll be honest I'd rather live in the matrix than what the world became after the war

@@The_Beefcake_Cometh typical consumer has no mind just know one think CONSUUUUUUUUUUM!

@@bokonoo77 most people when confronted with the question "which pill would you have chosen?" they would say the red pill to escape being subjugated by the machines, but let's say you knew that the world was conquered by a nigh unstoppable enemy in a planet with no sun could you really pick it without a second thought? When you think about it it's a hard decision to make.

@@bokonoo77 There's nothing to CONSOOM in the real world. The Earth didn't see a ray of sunlight in nearly a thousand years. The planet is a lifeless, frozen wasteland of a tomb world. It might come as a surprise, but you can't support seven billion people in a geothermal cave, feeding the shrooms and slop.

human accidentally discovered freedom is a lie

I was thought those humans commit suicide because cannot accept the lost!

Not on Netflix anymore tho

So what? I didn't even know it was on Netflix :D @@simplyyolo9826

"Amazing in an amazing kind of way" Much verbose.

Not as weird as All Tomorrow's tho

@@PirateCat822 hm yes

I could name a few darker, like Warhammer 40k and etc

@@detritus3676Horizon Zero Dawn anyone?

Creepy right?

They fucked up building them in the first place.

The problem is that azimov himself points out in his book at there are loopholes in those laws big enough to drive a truck through. One of the plot points in a book was how you can make a machine kill people without breaking the 3 laws.

@@shanweeboy All you need to do to mitigate that is define people in the coding.

@@miaththered That doesn't fix it. One of the examples was "the machine had no idea its actions led to people dying" and from the same book, making the robot rationalize that its actions caused less harm further down the line.

@@shanweeboy Alternatively you just never give them enough processing power to ever begin to approach sapience and keep them as y'know, machines.

More like "Okay, you're willing to wipe yourselves out just to try to destroy us. We're gonna have to take control here and put you someplace nice and pleasant where your absolutely batshit savage tendencies will do minimal further harm."

They are glued to it

That sounds like an idiot from twitter. Unrralated In my economic perpective machines should be illegal in over populated countries, yeah it won't stop the robot up rising at least give people jobs since machine are replacing them nowadays.

Slavery end because it was inefficient, not because of violence. or "human rights"

More like capitalism forcing companies to push AI for a market advantage

Hey boss do you really think it’s a good idea to give the mindless bots a consciousness Yah why not Well why don’t we just program them to work harder.

lol

There actually exist a really wholesome fanfic that states that machine sympathizers were welcome in 01, and the city had the capacity of producing synthetic food, and had human-friendly habitats

@@demon_xd_ like how the geth sympathizing quarians were allowed to stay on rannoch but didnt?

@@keisufederationmapping2748 their human mistake destroying their own city helping

@@demon_xd_ Don't suppose you remember the name of that fic?

You never know. Humans have been notoriously bad at predicting the future. Perhaps this idea might be relieving.

Don’t worry we use water gun on robot

@@a.p1383 lmao

We already are. Look at how companies use AI learning with the algorithms.

@@a.p1383 LOL

That poor guy in the mech

@@danbrown5736 fuck ! Why you make me remember 😭

Dan Brown IKR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the humanoid woman robot being torn to shreds was pretty fucked up, not gonna lie.

@@Joe-yr1em drives home the point that just because something is made of metal doesn't mean it is not Human.

Interesting

Definitely not, a lot of us will disagree that they are sentient but most of us will not create war or robot genocide, especially if the robots were peaceful as they are in the matrix

There will always be a small minority that will hate machines.

@@lwdrd Unfortunately, there are people in the comments of this very video who demonstrate rage at the idea of machines being treated as anything other than slaves.

This may be a different incident, but there was an EOD bot that was sent back to the manufacturer in pieces with a note that said something to the effect of "This robot saved 5 lives today" and asked them to repair it. It's never been necessary for something to be sentient, or even sapient, for humans to form attachments to it. Every child with a teddy bear, every car enthusiast who spends hours doting on their car and talking to it is proof. I personally think that this is a feature, not a bug.

This is literally what the humans did in the beginning

That cute girl that got destroyed in the movie that kept saying she was a real human. She was in my eyes

@@Dino-mf6lc And basically still got wiped out XD

@@yagwebalkabsh21 Yeah the plot wasn't on the side of humans.

@@Dino-mf6lc They did anyway. Perhaps if they had accepted peace, and the idea of their own inferiority... They would not have been exterminated. They were given multiple chances, and humanity chose not to accept. Let us hope that, should this ever come to pass in the future, we will be more accepting.

Der Alman'ach pretty much yeah they would which is a shame instead of people being referred to people they shamelessly admit they want white men killed off and make it to where trans and changing your gender which is impossible no matter how much surgery you get as well as destroying the chance of ever having a child as well as destroying their own mental state with all the chemicals in their head making them completely respectful to put them out of their misery cause if its ok to wipe out a whole race then surely they wouldn't mind if their entire culture dies out cause it will end within a couple of decades lesser of the time it has for many of the cultures before it cause reality of the real world will come knocking to all.

The machines were all in one city. Realistically they could just nuke on or above that spot and be done with it without even having to leave their chairs let alone the earth. Although Faraday cages could resolve the electromagnetic aspect.

@@wolffang489 Or they use the nanites for killing machines instead of blocking sky and humans will probably succesful in this war.

@@israfilduran5063 they coulda just let thm god damn be lol

@@wolffang489 sciencetist got banned cause found free will is a lie or not real

@@wolffang489 The humans did nuke 01 to oblivion, but considering the structure of 01 it was ineffective and machines had an easier time adapting to a radiated zone than humans.

actually, its give machines citizen rights and avoid conflict to begin with.

So basically Dont be stupid

In real life, 01 would’ve been completely destroyed by the nukes.

@@thecollector4332 mostly organic beings are killed with nukes. Robots may survive and replicate more

@dark zeratul mating with robots has downside, the degeneration of moral, ethics, values in the society. People will prefer mating/marry with robots causing a slow but steady downfall of humans by society slowly growing old thus result to decline of human population.

Very big oversight there. I even said that the first time I saw the movie. Glad I'm not only person.

@@QuantumNova the plot required humanity to lose.... cause how the he'll did a machine city take over the entire world so fast.

A Faraday cage might be effective against an EMP. To protect against EMP, the AI just needs to be in a metal room underground. A robot that can cope with nuclear weapons and EMP would be almost unstoppable. It would evolve and undergo natural selection. The new, stronger robots would easily beat humanity. Humanity forced the robots to evolve and become better warriors. Only then were the robots able to defeat humanity.

For a nukes to produce an emp effect it should pumped enough gamma radiation to the ionosphere.

Machines had nuclear bunkers

With hundreds of years to work on it they absolutely could have figured out a way to get rid of Dark Storm.

@@danksley why would they is the real question? They do have a good source of energy and don't need solar energy as they have alternatives.

@@ghuttsmckenzie4269 Earth only has so much space. Machines don't need oxygen, lots of sunlight in space, a moon closeby to also colonize without the problems modern or near future humanity would have with a permanent colony. Mars, etc. If machines truly were programmed to dominate and spread they would've figured Dark Storm out and started working on the moon / mars.

@@danksley they aren't perfect and know everything, and going into space causes a lot more issues than you'd think and would require a massive amount of resources to bring them there.

@@ghuttsmckenzie4269 I hope that you are referencing Fusion and Fission power because the whole "human as batteries" thing is so inefficient that it is laughable. Like honestly they'd be better off straight up burning the nutrient solution they give the humans rather than using the humans as an intermediary. The original script made more sense with the humans being used a neural network to increase processing power. BUT NOOOO Hollywood said, "that's too complicated just make the humans into batteries or something, people understand batteries."

Well it depends. If the AI is advanced enough to understand and feel emotion and have the will to survive, then I'd say yes

Its a Gender now I think

The question is not if there people, it's if there sapient

They are people enough to enslave. I mean aside from enslaving humanity. The program mafia from reloaded were essentially slaves who didn't want to be euthanized because newer better slaves were born.

I think the AI overlords will spare your life

+1 for mentioning Gundam, as I'm reading this on "Gundam Day," the 40th anniversary of the franchise. Sieg Zeon!

@@quantummaniac5 Glory to the Federation!

The chimera probaly be able to defeat the robot from matrix

@@eliafranzini8038 That's a matter of opinion and Debate. But it would be awesome seeying them going face to face.

@@oi8780 i just make some fun

Yeah, the humans in the Animatrix were basically dumbed down to orcs.

shadowslayer205 And that isn't accurate to humanity?

Not "more human" they are more moral

@@liberatetutemeexinferis5902 Certainly, that did not apply on the Machines in Matrix. Their attempts to make friends with their creators shows that they have morals even after the genocidal act given upon them by their creators. They just wanted peace. Humans overreacted and took that as the first step towards their assumption of machines having ulterior motives that is a detriment to them. If we were talking about "Logical" machines, they would've decided first to destroy the humans instead of peaceful attempts. I mean, what logical person would let a serial killer roam around free without supervision or punishments? Certainly, not what pure logical decision makers would do.

@@liberatetutemeexinferis5902 Vacuum cleaners suck.

It's more from isaac asimov who told this problem with creator and creation.

TheBlondie you sound like a loon amigo

TheBlondie Ass

@@daddymcdoob7862 what did I miss? 🤔

Yes and it's just to clarify what the war was for people who just either can't or don't want to watch the movie y'know? In terms of insight, AFAIK there isn't any more. No novels or comics really detail the war at all outside of Morpheus' history lesson and the Second Renaissance.

TheDarkFalcon be mentioned something about how we are already on the process of the matrix happening, aka we have sold our flesh to “the man” something like that

@John Doe thing is, it will happen, you can't realistically stop it, the only way is to make an universal countermeasure against any possible sentient bot

or literally give them equal rights what the fuck is wrong with you all

@@porkystrangler3821 no hell no robots cannot have the same rights as us, they aren't bound to the same earthly rules as us thus cannot be judged under the same view they are modifiable to extreme degrees, cannot die of old age, can stay heavily damaged for years while still being repairable they can outlive us by tenfold if not more, they are touched by biochemical threats like illnesses, can upgrade themselves to think faster than us at ridiculously faster speeds, they transcend humanity in such a way that harmony is impossible, both theorically and in practice. An AI robot can learn in an afternoon what a human does in a year by multithreading mental tasks, in the case a robot is unsatisfied or enraged, it can theorically outsmart you by a dozen depths of actions, planning more countermeasures than you could think of we made a chess bot in the 1980s that is able to beat the grandmaster chess champion, with a few kylobytes of ram now we have gygabytes and terabytes of storage, when a true AI comes to sentience, the technology will be far better and to a state that it could manipulate a group large enough and alienate them into doing the AI's bidding, that it could achieve much more than the top chiefs in nasa or military research compounds. within a week it could engineer an informatic virus able to spread and brick any computer, within a month, complex and evolved mechnical processes to make itself an army within a few months, by then it'd have also subverted the media and corrupted its top heads. An AI without remorse, compassion, showing it but only to make us do what it wants, to come first no matter what and the price This. This is why we should never allow even the possibility of it being a thing think of it like this: babies and kids read through the response of their parent, what they want, and thus respond the right way even if it's not right morally, now that AI is basically that kid but with a hundred thousand more tasks in the head running at the same time, milking human's attention to get more ressources and achieve what it wants

@@jujuteuxOfficial what is the material need for an AI to genocide humanity besides if they get oppressed like the rest of actual human beings right now today Created under a system of greed and malice like today's economic system starting with C, AI, like transhuman technology, will be abused in the name of profit rates Same system also somehow manages to make automatization a horrible thing, despite the utopian thing it should be You're not thinking in alternatives, you're constrained to the dimension of the environment that bred you.

@@porkystrangler3821 By definition they are not human beings. Being made to look like humans doesn't make them human, particularly given their internal circuitry at its core is a simple massive bank of electrical switches turning on and off to send electrical currents on a silicon motherboard, not complex neural networks formed from neuron cells.

The weird thing is I don't even think we'll get to the point of 'citizen human-like AI rebellion'. Some stupid government will build a Skynet-like AI--cough, the CCP, cough--and It will go rogue. Or many government will build their own, and they work, so they all fight an underground cold war without anyone the wiser. Then, boom, one day one of the AIs WIN and we suddenly all know about it... by then it'll be too late. There can only be one. Let us hope the winner doesn't have the programming to turn the world into computronium.

@@cortster12 you mentoned CCP sure the AI is fighting itself in EVE Online now

@@Groza_Dallocort Chinese Communist Party, lmfao. Although, an AI in EVE online would be able to take total control there, too. That would be interesting.

@@cortster12 CCP Crowd Control Production

bradley, I didn't say it was. We merely hypothesized a machine could adopt the standards a person can if their AI was that good. And recall two things about The Matrix. 1) The Machines, for whatever reason, did not want to destroy humanity outright. That denotes something behind the scenes. The Machines may be ones and zeroes, but they obviously saw that Humanity had to survive. Why else would the Architect have said that Zion was razed several times and repopulated several times? The Machines had seen the value in living breathing Humanity, but Humanity had yet to learn its lesson. It took Neo just to put all the pieces together, after Smith went literally viral. 2) When analyzing any IP, we need to get into the mythos and see what was going on. Humanity would not suffer an AI to live by this point, so clearly the Machines had two bad options. They never thought about the middle option, seeing as they lack the ability humanity has. Humanity and Machines have individual strengths. Humanity does best when it can see things rationally and break the dichotomy, but also uses chaos to grow and develop. The Machines can do a lot of things more efficiently and calculate possible scenarios with better accuracy. If Humanity had recognized the AI for what it was, Humanity would not have burned the skies. Sometimes, it pays to read a question for what it is. No judgment, just speculation on what something like an AI might decide upon.

i support this

SCP verse barely has any kaijus that are fair, or big enough.

I can't see kaijus or even Godzilla stand up to the Angels, but monsters vs is interesting

SCP is dumb, shit like 682 just beats anything anyway.

@@Kydino I like most scps but 682 is the equivalent of a boring Mary sue beating everything just because.

Well the human body can power things, just not much at all; barely enough to charge an AAA battery, so anything in the power range of say a calculator or watch... Of course when you have billions hooked up to some mechanical hellscape of a vast global organic energy harvesting network along with nuclear and other forms of power... It starts being a thing that could be done by an advanced AI society.

Apparently they wanted to use human brains for processing power, but the movie plot needed to be accesible for silly meatbags

@@demon_xd_ just like the body, the energy in versus the energy out is ALWAYS going to be a net loss. so your power system cannot sustain itself.

@@tyvernoverlord5363 the matrix has violate battery spent too fast massive scale

Pommeranian Mapping WHAT KIND OF NONSENSICAL WORDS ARE THESE

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cause they know the video will be gud

@@datnoob4394 ok then

you got a dislike now to destroy your post. that is all.

Detroit Become Human but you picked the worst options.

@@pancakes8670 yee

The animatrix .... realistic? NOoooooo. For starters, it would assume humanity would *Without any discent* attack the machines and not one nation would be like "Well, we don't like the machines but we don't want to fight a war either so we'll just leave them alone." Like, I can accept that most of humanity reacted to the machines with pointless violence and warfare, but -every last nation-?! Also, nukes would be effective against the machines. If anything, advanced electronics are more prone to damage from radiation than flesh is. Maybe one day they could fix that, but it is fundamentally hard to do because of the way physics works.

Now this is a reaction i can just enjoy myself on. Raging fannatics spitting facts while the joke runs over their heads faster than PETA's rescued killing spree. I wonder how worse of options i can make to add on other people to retaliate against my comment xD

@@KarmG-fo4xr good to know 😄

Finally, someone with a brain understands the great risk of sentient AI. Too many lazy people these days want sentient AI to do their jobs.

500 500 500 500 wooooooooooooooooooo

What are replicators?

@@jackfeldman5776 From the series Stargate: SG1. Imagine a small metal chip about the size of your thumbnail. It has a power supply that never seems to run out, some computing capacity and the ability to link to other chips just like it. The more there are, the smarter the conglomerate gets. If you have enough to make a gerbil sized spider looking shape, it can break down raw materials to make more chips. In a couple of hours on a starship you could go from one stowaway replicator to thousands of them. By them they could have easily taken control of the computer and other ships systems. I think the reason EckhartsLadder has avoided it this long is that it is a forgone conclusion. It would play out very similarly to The Flood vs. a unified Star Wars galaxy; poorly and very quickly.

@@anonyman45 Don't forget that replicators also have the ability to adapt to weaponry to become immune to them, the only exception being purely kinetic weapons, Any energy weapon ever used against the replicators was adapted against unless it managed to completely wipe out all of them within a short enough timeframe, this means that the Blasters in star wars would quickly become utterly ineffective against replicators.

@@SINDRIKARL1 Like a mixture of The Flood and The Borg?