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As a neutral observer I find Manchester United to be one of the least confusing teams around because they seem to have 1 of 2 types of season every season. They even start every season pretty much identically, they have a big spending summer, their fans get excited about the season ahead, they start terribly and almost immediately fall out of title contention. Then the season goes one of two ways, they either recovery and end the season quite strong, top 4 and build excitement for the next season even higher or they continue to muddle along and end up 6th or 7th, usually resulting in a managerial change which gets the cycle going again for the next season.

I feel as though making these videos is kind of like therapy for you! Its helps put everything into perspective 😂

5 permanent managers in 10 years post-Fergie. It's not confusing when you realise the underlying problem is the club structure and the culture of mediocrity it encourages.

"This is the clippable bit." Oh yes it is Mark....

I laughed out loud when you suggested the referee took matters into his own hands in order to make headlines.

Don't call yourself a bum, abeg. You're a content provider that churns out interesting and in-depth analysis of the game we love.

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I love how consistently he's been posting content. This is by far top 5 favorite channels of the past 2 years.

Great analysis. You did justice to it. From latest adjustments in various clubs (Barcelona, Madrid, Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham etc) some things are somehow constant: 1) You don't necessarily need to change a manager (Madrid, Arsenal, Liverpool) 2) You need a certain level of purge (Madrid, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea) Chelsea failed here because the purging was ridiculously too much in a short duration! 3) Change of Captain. A dude who can change on and off field events (Chelsea, Arsenal, Man United) Man United has a captain who complains to referees too much and get involved in football antics that are not good examples to other players. 4) Discipline (Arsenal, Man city, etc). Ten Hag might need to raise the discipline level for the players. It shows in their play and interviews. 5) Release unhappy players/players who don't want to stay (Real Madrid's Benzeama, Chelsea's Kante, Mendy, Arsenal's Lacazette, Granit Xhaka, Mancity's Cole Palmer, Jesus, Zinchenko, Cancelo, Liverpool's Minimano, Firmino) I've already explained why Chelsea is failing: Sudden overhaul of virtually all players and manager!

words can't explain how happy i am for maguire's redemption arc.

I am not a man united fan but do watch a lot of their games. After watching Anthony at Ajax, I was excited to get to see him in the EPL, but since he's arrived, I am just wondering what made me like him so much. That can be said for a lot of the players here but I enjoy the anger this raises.

5:20 we all would love that!!Hope you do a watch along soon.

Back in the day, they were winning trophies now, they are desperately parking the bus What a fall from grace

Tinashe: I kinda value my sanity over youtube views *makes videos about man united*

babe wake up, football iconic has released a new manchester united rant video

Initially I had a problem with Ten Hag, but I have to agree with you, he should not go. Give him what he needs, and he will get us to a better place.

Excellent break down Sir, youve earned a new subscriber. UTD makes me feel schizophrenic at times, i love them, i hate them, i want Ten hag to succeed but i want this crap football gone but we have seen this before over and over, have a good season, win a trophy and the board act like we are the finished product and dont back the manager. Fans focus on the 400 million spent but neglect the reality we lost over 400 million in players walking out the door for free, Our squad is so thin it’s been exposed this season just like previous seasons. We have players starting week in week out we wanted to sell in the summer because they dont fit Ten Hags way. We have consistently not got players managers wanted consistently brought in loans that are not good enough because lets be honest its not like clubs loan their best players, its usually players they dont see as part of their plans. With this miss mash of players from previous managers as far back as 10 years ago, different play styles and few who ever looked World class for more than a minute, i believe its an absolute miracle Ten Hag reached finals finished top 4 and has in a position to be in the top 4 race, this is where we are folks and we need to suck it up and get behind the team, im praying we dont sack ten hag because i cant face another manager with another rebuild and not getting his players, no money to spend, and just more miss mash football, off the pitch decisions by idiots have ruined this great club.

Ah, the monthly confused about Manchester United video makes its return. This is the true essence of the Football Iconic channel. Jokes aside, from an Arsenal fan, don’t give up hope my friend. Our process ended up working, yours just might as well. Change will come.

Bro I don't drink, but everytime I watch ManU games nowadays, i feel like drinking😔

Feel you bro, I’m a Chelsea fan😭

I have to be honest, as someone who played as a GK I'm astonished that Ohnana was purchased by United. He played in an Inter team which was defense focused, they were very organised, Ohnana always had support from his defenders and the entire squad were a close group of players. Now he's in a team which has almost zero organisation on any part of the field, a completely dysfunctional squad and dealing with a much harder and faster paced league... This even answers his own question about going from best to worst in 6 months. He wasn't exposed at Inter, he is at United. The guy is not good enough for a top level club that doesn't have a strong defense that focuses on defensive styles of play. He'd be good under a Mourinho team for example, but awful for a Klopp or Guardiola team.

Thank you for the video and for your hard work this year keeping us informed! Merry Christmas! 🙏⛄️🎄🦌💫

Great watch as always 👊🏿. United will always remain one of the most fascinating case studies. Dont think ive ever seen a club in transition this long. Maybe not as disastrous as Arsenal banter era or AC Milan banter era but probably the one that has basically been stagnat the most. The issues that were there when Sir Alex left 10+ years ago are the exact same issues that still are there at that club today. But alas, one thing will always ring true, decision making upstairs impacts an entire club and until the structure is fixed theres gonna be this perpetual transition. As a Madrid fan im forever thankful that even in our down years we have things sorted upstairs so our down years never last long. Congratulations on the partnership and keep up the great work 👊🏿

I really enjoy watching your videos. Cheers mate, hope your channel keeps growing

I agree with what you said,the players also have to take the blame... Some of them lack professionalism,bad mouthing and not believing the manager and so on.We've seen this countless time post - SAF.Under Rangnick the players refused to play his gegenpress tactics and his 433 formation.He only played that way for a few match.

You are just experiencing what Manchester United was like before Sir Alex Ferguson got the house back in order. He is irreplaceable.

I, once again, watched the entire video in a couple of minutes.

I just want to say merry Christmas dude, and thanks for the content

We lost 7-0 to Liverpool and people didn’t see this coming? (0-0) After an awful loss of-course we had to defend, judge man united performance in the next derby but after a huge loss, it’s actually a very good response. They did the one thing they couldn’t do.

I love your videos. Football Iconic! Hope you will have a good christmas and new year!

Ten Hag is not it, I don't think he is the worst problem at the club but his lack of attacking tactical structure is why united rely on long balls, blame Ole for not making a system that worked with CR7 but he had a system where he had 5 players with a more than 15 goal contributions and rashford having 36 and bruno with 46, 13 being pens. He has good players we see that, he signed anthony and his refusal to drop him led to a fall out with sancho. He is a problem, but the the only one.

Firing ETH is like changing a steering wheel of a car that has worn out tires, a busted engine, a damaged gearbox and a leaking oil tank.

As an Austrian I will forever be greatful to ManU and especially their stupidity. You guys being so utterly dismissive of Ralf Rangnick and his ideas for rebuulding the club (all of which by now have been proven right) made it possible for him to become the coach of our NT. So thank you, thank you very much.

I don’t understand how no one is questioning the Sancho situation since he’s been banished from the team. Surely Ten Hag has proven his point and if it really is just for not apologizing now the club is gonna have a 70 million player walk out for nothing. When even if they don’t get along as a manager you play Sancho if he plays well increases his value to sell, if he plays poorly it validates Ten Hag for dropping him in the first place. With the poor run of games and injuries that happened the fact that this wasn’t considered is a huge managerial blunder in my opinion. All for discipline and running the locker room but at this point it’s strange that it’s gone on so long over something so petulant

I think Rashford is the biggest problem, he's as much a problem as Ronaldo was, if he plays we can't play to a system. I actually think Rashford believes that the team should all play for him like barca did and Argentina do for Messi 😂 and that he should conserve his energy just on attack, he actually thinks hes at ronaldo level and constantly talking to press and getting his agent to speak to the club. He needs to go and under Ferguson would have years ago!!

Really love your selection of lofi background music :)

I think you need to keep the faith in Ten Hag. The injuries to Lisandro Martinez and Eriksen have completed ruined your ability to build from the back and forced the manager to change the style of play from last season where you finished 3rd and won a trophy. The manager looks like he's finally managing to install some discipline in this side. He dropped Varane and Rashford, but has brought both back in from the cold, and Varane has played well, whereas Rashford was actually tracking back in his short cameo againt Liverpool, kept the shape and wasnt trying to play hero ball. The performance was the most tactically and mentally disciplined performance from United the whole season. Antony was dangerous on the counter and McTominay failed to connect with any of the crosses and Hojlund and Garnacho both fluffed their lines when chances to steal the game fell to them. I may be wrong, but it really looked like the squad is starting to turn the corner and Ten Hags discipline is winning them over. I guess we'll see this weekend. Also, Martinelli was the first man sent off for 2 yellows in the same phase of play, also by Michael Oliver against Wolves 😂 😅😅

Thank you for your video. I just want to say I support EtH. And question this - How is any manager supposed to be strong and authorative, whe he keeps getting undermined by the club? For many years we have seen managers wanting rid of players, and the club keeps them, creating a toxic atmosphere. This summer, EtH wanted to sell McTominay, Maguire, Martial and Sancho. All still here, and he has to play three of them. Until the club grow a pair, and actually start supporting the manager, I for one will not call "out". As you say, minimum three years needed. I agree with that. But the club has to start cleaning the house as well, for it to work.

Once upon a time, there was a team named Newton Heath.... Can't always be on top. Got to get used to being at the edge of the top flight teams for a while. Ten Hag has brought us silverware already. We got to give him time to sort things out.

Onana has always had a kind of risk factor to him. It was noticeable at my club Ajax. But damn, is it really showing this season. Still though, he’s a quality keeper. We’ve seen plenty of evidence of that.

love all the vids but i really like your ones on man u. quality, nuanced takes, most level headed content creator lol ❤

I've only been following you and football for about a year now, and I can say this is the funniest title

As a milan fan who go through the banter era, I can assure you this kind of on and off form will happen regularly. Unbeaten for x match then goes on a slump for x matches

3 options are: Replace every player. Replace the manager. Continue the way things are. Whether you think it’s unwise to replace Ten Hag. It is the only realistic option.

Loved this!! Honestly that's how I feel!

I love how the Google voice recogntion put "Tinheart" in the subtitles for Ten Hag!

We are all getting to this stage my friend

The thing is, pre injuries and match bans, ange came in and shook up the league, set a new standard for managers coming in, with emre and de zerbi taking the league by storm at times, however too, and arteta has done well, 3 years ago the only quality managers with quality sides were klopp and pep, things are changing and united have to keep up

Hey man,.you are simply, excellent in what you do here! Highly entertaining! It'll get better at Man United! I understand that it will take quite some time. Another 10 years should do it. Just as long as it doesn't take 30! Cheers!

Man U used to intimidate me as an Arsenal fan. However, i honestly feel bad for them due to their management team. My Arsenal went through a lot of pain too but management made some good strides to be stable. I think filling Fergie's shoes seems to be a serious feat. Mourinho was the best option when they had him imo. If they had been patient and invested strategically, things might have turned out differently. I am not trashing them but how can you look at the money thrown frivolous ly at some of the signings and not have questions?

NBA teams understand they need to enter a rebuilding phase when things aren't working out. They might trade star players for lottery draft picks and generally understand they are in a re-structuring mode. I wish United fans just understand this. We are barely a mid-table team. The expectations of the fans in my opinion is hampering the teams development. It seems the board are beginning to realize this, Ragnick also made similar comments. The squad needs a re-shape. We should work on building academy players while buying quality players that would actually make a difference. I think Ten hag is a very solid coach, you have to admit that Ajax is a much different club to Man Utd and I might be wrong, but he's still relatively inexperienced as a coach. He seems to be think long term and that's what the club needs right now, long term planning. By the way, it's good we are out of European football, we should not have been there in the first place. ❤

well made video, enjoyed it dude

Sancho recieves 5 year contract, 450k a week at ManU. Sancho: "Yes, now i can retire! That's like the mentality of half the ManU team, and you wonder why they play like crap.

As a Real Madrid fan that had to grow up in the fergie years of United (and pip's Barça) and being told countless times about how "oh, United doesn't need to buy players, we have our youth academy. We don't buy players to win like Real does" And then watching how far United has fallen in the last decade plus while spending absurd amounts of money and Real has won 5 more CL with a midfield that was bought for less than €100m (Kroos, Modric, Casemiro) has brought so much happiness to my life. Not to mention the deathspiral Barça is in financially, which I'm so glad that they have "the best youth academy of all time". It goes to show you just how difficult the world of club football actually is, and just how impressive what Real Madrid does is.

I always remember at different points in time, big clubs going through tough periods being referred to as 'sleeping giants' like AC Milan and Arsenal. But United aren't exactly sleeping in the sense that we're always at the forefront of conversations, media etc. Even had a few false dawns. I think the appropriate term for us is a 'Shackled (maybe even drunk at times) Giant'

I don’t know what it is with modern sports but just because the team is losing or not doing well for ONE season that does not mean you should fire the manager. You need one consistent vision, culture, style for the team to follow to be good and they’re not going to get that switching managers every couple of months.

Love your take on the team I agree all of the points you made. It’s just sad for Hojlund that only player who feed the ball to him is Bruno, Garnacho shoots the ball mostly and currently not capable of dribbling past defenders to create. Antony great work rate but doesn’t create chances and passes the ball backwards Rashford can beat defense with his dribbles but chooses to shoot more than pass If Erikson plays, I believe Hojlund will score more, but Erikson is not defensively effective Back when we had a poacher like Van Nistelrooy he had Beckham, Giggs, Scholes to feed him the ball. I think that the current United team need to be disciplined to know when to pass the ball when to shoot

If the manager is to be given time, the same goes for players as well. We had Weghorst, Fred, Sabitzer, Sancho, Van de beek, Amad Diallo, and many more who were potentials to boost the main squad, if not as substitutes. We even had De Gea, who's shot stopping has carried us for years. Weghorst was giving us wins by just being in the striker position, yet many still complain about his goal scoring. We had the players, but had our eyes in envy of Man City focusing on the players they had, instead of the ones who stuck with us. Give them time, and train them well, thats the duty of the manager. And if all goes down, the captain goes down with the ship

Tinashe, truly love your videos. Love your truth and nojn bias and your true passion and depth of knowledge. Best football channel on YT.

Hey man this is good analyze of the team. I am big Man United fan and become one since Cantona playing for the first season. ETH must stay but the players are not dedicated to the team and have to be gone. After all Alex Ferguson won his first trophy after six years.

Also a Man U fan. Disappointed is the nicest way to express my feelings on them recently but nah if you a top 6 team and have spent as much as Chelsea and we somehow seem like a good team is crazy it's just fighting for the wooden spoon 💀😅

Very much looking forward to his Chelsea video when he gets round to it 🤣 21:31

As a United fan I agree with everything you touched on. Well said mate

It's confusing, when you look at Onana he's awkward and blunder-prone. But actually his save ratio and expected goal stopped/expected goals conceded he is one of the best in the league just under Vicario.

Its a sentiment ive been sharing with my friends who support Man U for years, ever since the day the Glazers took over Sir Alex was the bandaid that kept the club from crunbling in the later years. I respect and want Man U to be at their best cuz good competition breeds excitement in football but this club has systemic problems that no manager or player can fix. I support Chelsea, I know how bad we are and how bad our own systematic problems are, but I love the prem and i want the usual customers to be run and operated well and with passion for the sake of their fans, not billionaire owners who dont care about football

I think in the case of McTominay, he can be tried on as a defensive/pressing forward. It's good for games when we're likely to not have possession and it allows him to use his best antributes namely the fact that he runs a lot. His weakness can be covered by the fact that as a forward he wouldn't need to make insane passes, and his weakness in defensive positioning is nullified since he's no longer a defensive player. If he can be taught to press effectively, he can just keep making it harder for opposing CBs to retain possession which might lead them to making mistakes. If he wins the ball he can do a side ways pass to either Bruno or one of the wingers, or have a go for goal. Also because he's tall he can offer arial threat or a target to hoof the ball to if we need to do a long pass. Just imagine a hybrid between Roberto Firmino and Peter Crouch, but slightly weaker in each player's respective strongest trait.

Ideal starting 11 for us. De Gea Dalot Varane Martinez Shaw Casemiro Mainoo Bruno Sancho(in form) Antony CR7 this team would have been interesting honestly. But injuries and fall ofs were horrible for us. Bad luck is a factor ngl. We have our core players injured. Liverpool struggled as well without key players. City without Kdb and Rodri are bellow Arsenal honestly. Arsenal without Saliba fell of a cliff. Brighton after mass sellings fell off. There is no team immune to injuries when it comes to CDM and CB They are the engine of the team. Not the strikers like people believe

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We all know the Owners haven't been good for the club but they've given the fans money to previous managers, EtH has wasted over £150-200M already on signings, that cost at least 3-5 players short from where we should be so EtH has to take the blame for that but there's room for improvement with the addition of SJR by offloading Arnold & Murtough who has overstayed their welcome already is a sign to send us in right direction! EtH is talking Rubbish when it concerns the January's transfer window cos we want at least 5 players 2CD, 2CM & 10 and release 5 players e.g. Dalot, Maguire, Lindelof, Williams, Bruno, Mount, VDB, Antony, Greenwood & Sancho. WanBa Not for Sale!

I had that same shirt (a false version) and in the same day I bought one of Drogba with that weird neon chelsea's (I'm brazilian) no idea what happened to them but I loved it

Another great video 👍

Can’t wait till he makes a vid on villa v united what a game

Ive followed united fairly close for the last couple of years. I can totally both sides of the reaction to the Liverpool game

I saw the upload and said “here we go!”

I feel like you need a bro hug... Bring it in, man

We need to release the players Ten Hag doesn't need or doesn't want. However, looking at how the Glazers work, they are unwilling to do so because of how their contracts are amortised - it affects the accounts, which in turns affects FFP. We cannot buy our way back to success right now, we have seen how it has not worked for us. We need to be smart about who we buy and how we buy. The ownership needs to stop looking at marketable signings and start looking at market conscious signings.

5:10 That's wild.

Feel you bro

Awesome video I hope 2024 cud be better for your team

It's simple are time is up, and we need to accept it. Maybe in ten years' time we could make a push for the title but not right now.

Im dutch and i am a little bit of a fan of ETH and and man u will only succeed if the comes a structure, a club vision looking for specific type players. ETH doesnt have the time to scout, manage, train. Look at ajax with ETH he had overmars who had a clear vision and the right communication with ETH

I think the most fair criticism I've heard of ETH is that he doesn't know how to manage superstars. He's fallen out with Ronaldo, mismanaged De Gea, and also fallen out with Casemiro and Varane. It seems like his comfort zone is dealing with youth and yes men. Mourinho famously once said that as a manager u need to accept that some players are so good that they u can't teach them football so u need a different approach to them. I think that's where ETH fails.

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Need to play all youth! Erik tens teens! And I'd be really angry if they get rid of ETH unless its Roy Keane coz its so crazy it would work. The players would respect and play for him, get in the best coaches and its not hard to get a team playing to a system

That athletic article finished me, shows why managers don't succeed in mam utd

The next few games will determine if EtH has a future at our Club. EtH has to earn the right to be our Manager cos right now his messing Up, so there's room for improvement! If Eric Ten Hag gets the PUSH cos he's a Man City fan, helping the opposition & sabotage what he has built at our Club then bring back Ole Gunnar Solskjear with his new Management (3 Wise Men)! Keep it in the family!

Hats off to Maguire, but you know things are bad for us when he’s been one of our most consistent players this season and his absence is going to be real noticeable moving forward lol.

We were leading in three games (2-1, 2-0, 2-0) in the CL and one got one… ONE point out of them. Unbelievable 😂

As a life long United fan, I can honestly say that I currently almost can't even be bothered to watch any of our games. This damn is so confusing and so poorly run that it's laughable. There used to be a time when I actually cared, but I didn't think there would come a time where I actually wouldn't. That time has come.

mate what do you feel about casemiro?? pls talk about him in next video...

Arteta had 2 really poor seasons and everyone was calling for him to be sacked. But the club believed in him and backed him and look at how Arsenal is doing now. I think the fans and club need to back continuity.

"Missing a million other players through injury and *various other things." * Varane and Sancho: "We're various other things."

As a Frenchman, I have some information that may interest Man U fans 1) Radcliffe at his club in France, in Nice, it's... pfff. Ok, he didn't put a lot of money into a club which is anyway a lot less rich than Paris, Lyon, Marseille... but it's not as if the club worked better than the others. This season it's finally working, but the years before, without being bad, it wasn't incredible either, especially since the club was already regularly European before him. 2) Not long ago, I saw an interview with a French recruiter from Man U, who said that the club was one of the most professional in the world in this area. But he spoke of Hannibal Majri, saying "there were plenty of others on it, but many were frightened by his 'aggressive' mentality. But for us, that's precisely what we're looking for." I wonder if Man U is not too “old-fashioned” in its search for players, on a mental level. As if we could have a Roy Keane today.

waiting for the next one after today's performance :D

Always good when you upload. Keep on going on and please don't drive off the bridge. Manchester United isn't worth it.

The biggest problem is really characterised by players lke mctominay and maguire these players have been so inconsistent and mostly frustrating I think there just needs to be patience and time along with a DoF and good owners really if u do the following will happen - Players need to be phased out - I think ten hag needs to develop his ideas - antony garnacho holjund all need to progress/improve along with Mainoo - sell maguire mctominay martial sancho

Mark Goldbridge is gift that keeps giving. Keeps giving prime clips of him being a prat.

As a Chelsea's fan. Having a coach stay, specially if they are having on and off success is a good thing. If a coach has bad after bad after bad, then yeah leadership change is needed. But being up and down can be worked on. Consistentcy is built upon, not something you bring when it's a team game

Dont forget that even for Sir Alex took 7 years to win his first PL title for UTD. They also had a period like this from 67 to 93 without a PL title and struggle, Ten Hag definitely needs to stay he has a huge potential and with the right players he can do a better job at UTD, u cant blame him cause he has to defend with Maguire and Evans and about Onana he is a great GK its just hard for him cause at Inter he never had such a pressure and instability from his center backs and he is not used to this pressure. They need to give more time to a manager and Ten Hag needs to be that manager, they cant change the managers like socks.