Women would understand men better if they knew these things...

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Жыл бұрын

Talking points: isolation, masculinity, rationality, validation
A woman on Instagram DM'd me a great question a while ago: what do I need to know about men that I might not understand? Well, I came up with five ways to understand the average guy's lived experience. Enjoy!
(00:55) - Imagine having few or no close friends
(03:27) - Imagine overindexing rationality and logic
(05:37) - Link your sense of self-worth to productivity
(07:36) - Imagine getting 1/10th the validation you normally do
(11:59) - Imagine getting condemned and praised for dominance
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@ivanaamidzic
@ivanaamidzic 7 ай бұрын
Regarding point #4 - I'd say it can also be quite the opposite at times. Because they aren't used to being thanked, cared for & cherised, they will reject gentleness & validation when you try giving it to them - because they aren't used to it, don't know what to do with it or think you are trying to play them. I got these exact words from a guy recently: "You're too validating" (when I was just being me & said usual things I say when I care for someone (man or woman) and notice their uniquiness and goodness they bring into this world.
@zibanildo
@zibanildo 4 ай бұрын
Great point! I was also going to point out that from my previous factory experience, that men, when thanked, they automatically expect a financial compensation as well.
@kaitlin8669
@kaitlin8669 Ай бұрын
Yeah guys usually don't react well when I thank them for stuff either.
@mariamkarjiker301
@mariamkarjiker301 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. I am a woman and a psychiatrist with a deep interest in marriage. I agree wholeheartedly with you and am trying to get women to see how men experience the world.
@agentm83
@agentm83 5 ай бұрын
the world would be a much better place if there was more understanding and empathy between men & women.
@raghavhabib
@raghavhabib 5 ай бұрын
if women (wives/gfs) had a little bit more understanding and empathy...then most of the problems we are currently facing in relationships would go away
@The-Oneness11
@The-Oneness11 Ай бұрын
​​@@raghavhabibI think the problem is as a woman when you show too much empathy to a man a lot of times they end up using you. Men can become predatorial if they see that they can. As a woman I've learned to be less empathetic from past experiences. It's a form of self-protection.
@gregorylatta8159
@gregorylatta8159 29 күн бұрын
Good.
@tomhansche
@tomhansche 8 ай бұрын
Another message men receive on the regular….A man’s presence is not needed but his resources are.
@lauralu9265
@lauralu9265 4 ай бұрын
That is so sad. I'm sorry.
@kaitlin8669
@kaitlin8669 Ай бұрын
No women really like a man's presence and company. Making money is easy for women these day. Getting good company is not easy.
@pattataj
@pattataj Ай бұрын
Oh no! I’m sorry you feel this way. I love my partner’s presence. We talked about how I would never want him to work so much so I don’t get to see him. Money is important and we both work. But I would never choose HIS money over him. I need HIM in my life because I love him and I love spending my time with him. He is my best friend.
@Makkuvideos
@Makkuvideos Жыл бұрын
Haven’t had a close friend since middle school and I’m 20, just graduated college. I have my parents but it’s a different kind of relationship. So I deal with most of life’s challenges internally. Making music is my best outlet for navigating my life at the moment. It’s nice to have a hobby but I’ve felt deprived of connection for a long time. Every day is just work and the gym.
@mattgrego8127
@mattgrego8127 Жыл бұрын
Hang in there. I remember graduating college and coming out of a dark time...wondering what to do next, reality hitting you in the face, wanting to do so much but so little options.... very big existential time in my life. I wanted to record music back then, and now I'm 35 and found a niche working in TV. Not what I thought I'd be doing, but it still scratches an itch and kind of glad I didn't limit myself to what I thought I wanted because the music industry has evaporated since and is completely different now. Stay true to what makes you tick and try not to lose sight of it, keep an open mind and always do your best and you'll attract the people you need in your life. Take it one day at a time and things will begin to take root.
@daynemin
@daynemin Жыл бұрын
Do your best. Similar experience here but realising the god within, within all of us is the realest most fulfilling connection anyone can have. Not religious seeking but a relinquishing of meaning, attachment and struggle. If you can feel out all the worst case scenarios, how would it feel to be alone the rest of your life, to never realise your goals etc. If you can drop resistance to the unwanted and allow it to be simply a possibility, you will move forward and see change. The pressure and heaviness we go through urges us to go within and rediscover our infinite, eternal formless self.
@gregorylatta8159
@gregorylatta8159 29 күн бұрын
Join the club.
@123SuperBeast
@123SuperBeast 4 ай бұрын
I would add the difference in concepts/ experience around physical intimacy. Many men go weeks and months, even years at a time, without so much as a hug
@gregorylatta8159
@gregorylatta8159 29 күн бұрын
Excellent point!
@Po3try27
@Po3try27 18 күн бұрын
Man.. I feel like you rapid-fired my soul. Thanks for the video too, it feels good hearing different things like that.
@cercatoreoneaosta4810
@cercatoreoneaosta4810 Жыл бұрын
I’m fully onboard with what Connor is saying here. The ideological polemics of the ‘Culture War’ in the US & Canada are totally out of control and they have ruined and stressed out so many good friendships. The lack of intellectual maturity that our leadership often demonstrates through puerile name calling and bombastic ad hominem attacks, does little to set an example or tone for civility and trust. If you feel you can’t trust your neighbor, then it’s extremely hard to reach out in friendship to that neighbor. Being more epistemologically contingent and flexible, is one way to bridge the gap and build that trust. Jettisoning stereotypes & assumptions are integral to this process where ‘Pejorative Association Fallacy’ is the standard norm; i.e. - “All white hetero males are….” “All lesbian women are…..”
@j7512
@j7512 3 ай бұрын
I felt very validated watching this video because it speaks about the male experience which isn't talked enough about. Infact it feels like no one really is speaking about it or caring.
@StardustMonkey
@StardustMonkey Күн бұрын
Most definitely! Being a man in our society make you feel like a machine that purpose is to output without thanks when you do well … and be looked down upon if you fall short in any way… so you succeed and it’s like “oh there is a person fulfilling the obligation of their existence no need to say anything he is just doing the minimum to have value to us” and then if you fall short in any of these metrics “there goes that deadbeat who can’t get his shit together” that is why men don’t tell people they will commit suicide they just do it if they feel like a failure. That’s why we are here to sing and dance… never get too mad and most definitely do not show vulnerability because that’s when your woman will leave you and that’s when society will laugh and Shame you. The messed up thing is we live in an economic system that intentionally has at least 50% losers… if people are lot desperate enough to keep doing shit jobs the whole economy melts down and then we don’t thank those people instead we mock them and elude them as examples of failure
@JacobPetrossian
@JacobPetrossian Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, Connor.
@lordwebster9353
@lordwebster9353 Жыл бұрын
thank you for being inspiring motivational and challenging❤
@jonathancarey3029
@jonathancarey3029 2 ай бұрын
Feeling validated in a way I've never been. Thank you.
@shreyashelat4623
@shreyashelat4623 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for enlightening me I have a baby brother and he recently married has two kids all within a three year period of us losing our father. I had no idea how isolated men felt. I love my brother dearly and obviously for me and my dating and personal life found this video to be very helpful thank you very much!
@gregorylatta8159
@gregorylatta8159 29 күн бұрын
Spitting facts!!!
@3DSteezyOFFICIAL
@3DSteezyOFFICIAL 8 күн бұрын
Interesting take on a man’s relationship with his own dominance
@JazzyArtKL
@JazzyArtKL 3 ай бұрын
Real talk.
@lauren12ful1
@lauren12ful1 Жыл бұрын
As a woman, the last four are what I always experienced my entire working life in an office.
@stoneylonesome4062
@stoneylonesome4062 Жыл бұрын
Well, I am sure you can understand how painful that can be.
@mrsherwood2599
@mrsherwood2599 2 ай бұрын
This isn't about you. A lot of things aren't. About. You.
@GunBlade666
@GunBlade666 10 ай бұрын
this was a surprisingly informative and truthful experience. hopefully we can reach more new people
@quillingquelly1785
@quillingquelly1785 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. I have been struggling to find the right source for this type of material. Can you recommend any reading materials?
@PhilipTheHunter
@PhilipTheHunter 4 ай бұрын
So true all this.
@ninc2518
@ninc2518 Ай бұрын
May God guide men and women. We need better role models. May God keep you helping. I think this is very balanced and accurate. Extra: you could read how the Prophet Muhamad behave. He was very masculine and still very sweet to their family and friends. (I am not talking about all muslim men)
@aalvarez305
@aalvarez305 Жыл бұрын
1000%
@laurendemi_art
@laurendemi_art 4 ай бұрын
Did you or do you live in Seattle? I swear you look so familiar and may have been a customer of mine 😂
@vianhoho19
@vianhoho19 Жыл бұрын
Being in the relationship rabbit hole of the internet, the question isn't so much about what should women understand about men But rather are women *WILLING* to put an effort to try and understand men? Because from what I've seen, women couldn't give two hoots about men. It's all about them, them, and them. If we can't even solve that, there's nothing to be learned to begin with 😔
@stoneylonesome4062
@stoneylonesome4062 Жыл бұрын
I hate to say this, but I get where you’re coming from. So many of them don’t seem to have any interest doing such. I hate to say it, because I don’t want our movement to be/come-off as resentful (gender politics as we currently know it is dividing society), but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s pretty true.
@cassiewatts3884
@cassiewatts3884 Жыл бұрын
I'm really sorry this is your experience. I am a woman and I have watched this video purposefully seeking to understand men more. I have a husband, sons, nephews, brothers, in laws, dad etc. I hope we aren't all being tarred with the same brush....
@ssiegreen5292
@ssiegreen5292 10 ай бұрын
There are plenty women who do! The problem is - they are generally not the women that are considered hot, or "8-10's" or "instagram model worthy" and therefore don't get the attention from men they truly deserve. A lot of guys [if not the majority of you] are attracted to and go for flashy appearances, sexy dress codes, and shallow personalities - because this type of woman is front and center, pretty much everywhere you look. You tend to not see the genuinely nice ones, because they may be quieter, a bit more shy or calm, dress more sedate or understated, and don't trigger your hunting instincts, or raise your adrenalin levels, like a hot piece of a$$ does. So you go for the flash, and complain about hypergamy, monkey-branching, cheating or simply not being seen or considered by her [that "insta" type] at all, while the other type that would be more compatible with your relationship wishes, deals with her own version of users, cheaters, and non-committing men on her own level. You can't get there from there! Unless you do the work to recognize this type of woman, or at least see the differences between both types, AND you can learn to appreciate what makes one tick - AND offer that to her - AND be open about what you need as well - you're not getting there. As long as men behave like a closed book, it's really hard for good women to understand what you need, and getting their own needs met as well... Communication!!! You will have to take the risk of opening up, to let her know where you stand - and more than once. It's a learning experience for both of you! You preferably also keep your libido under control and your d*ck in your pants, until you make a true connection and have established common ground and know that she actually sees you, hears you and understands where you are coming from and that you get where she is coming from as well!
@lauralu9265
@lauralu9265 4 ай бұрын
Another woman here, trying to learn how to relate to the men in my life
@riquipoo5578
@riquipoo5578 2 ай бұрын
None of these are limited to men. At least men get paid for their services and women are expected to perform them for free.
@EriPages
@EriPages 6 ай бұрын
Timestamps bro
@twostepsbackwards4992
@twostepsbackwards4992 8 ай бұрын
You lost me at validation. Thinking that women are used to validation is blindness except if you speak of getting attention from men which is confirming we are actually NOT used to validation as people. I also believe that because men give a lot of attention to the women they find attractive, they consider other women non people and they don’t count them in these “statistics” - I don’t know where you get data on the amount of received validation and if it’s self reported there’s a bias where the ones that are most used to it have a lower threshold for frustration. Usually you have good points but this really makes me wonder how old you are, where you worked at all your life before this project and what families you know where boys receive less validation. It exists but in my experience with different cultures it’s an exception.
@TheWewanater
@TheWewanater 7 ай бұрын
I think the validation thing is that women "generally" receive more validation online, and in social situations.... mostly from men I grant you that. however Men (not boys) are practically invisible when it comes to social validation.... especially from women, but also other men. when it comes to boys in families I would actually agree that they can be elevated and considered the golden child especially in non western cultures. however it seems that in the western world that around the time boys hit puberty we are essentially thrown out of the social fabric of society until we can "prove'' that we have something to offer.
@davidfillary
@davidfillary 6 ай бұрын
I took it more to mean validation and praise from friends. If a woman posts a picture of herself on instagram, she will often get praise from her friends. When women meet, they often compliment each other on their clothes. That tends not to happen among men. I have never had a man compliment my outfit for instance. And he points out that the jobs that typically get the least amount of praise are predominantly done by men. If you work in the service industry, you likely receive praise if you do a good job.
@danieldoca7158
@danieldoca7158 5 ай бұрын
Are you projecting? Men don't use "not people" category, that's what women do. I can tell you that even the most ugly and fat women out there are still getting laid. You can't say the same thing about men like that. Get your facts straight
@denisborzov8406
@denisborzov8406 2 ай бұрын
There's at least one study that shows that boys receive significantly more negative feedback growing up.
@LorenzoMasterConnector
@LorenzoMasterConnector 2 ай бұрын
It seems really hopeless. I’m doing my best to be a better man but SHE doesn’t care. There is absolutely NO accountability.
@carlthornton1719
@carlthornton1719 4 ай бұрын
Men don't go around seeking validation
@user-jw1bl4hq9j
@user-jw1bl4hq9j 8 ай бұрын
What men do not understand is that women want TOTAL EXCLUSIVITY IN ALL AREAS ……AFFAIRS OF ANY KIND ARE MAKING WOMEN RESENTFUL AND END UP IN DIVORCE .
@spvincentchristina8368
@spvincentchristina8368 8 ай бұрын
You quote Einstein, but not the one who created him. Man”s knowledge doesn’t equate to GOD’s wisdom. Tired of people trusting in SELF and your own ideas/understanding, rather than acknowledging the one who is all-knowing.
@davidfillary
@davidfillary 6 ай бұрын
"If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity." Deuteronomy 25:11-12 This wisdom is beyond my understanding.
@JazzyArtKL
@JazzyArtKL 3 ай бұрын
Einstein was created by his parents, not God. Knowing yourself is the most powerful transformation you can go through in life. God doesn't exist, religion is a coping mechanism for the fearful, a cultural construct with no evidence. It takes away accountability for yourself, since you put your growth outside of yourself (a non existing deity). Stop spreading these lies.
@denisborzov8406
@denisborzov8406 2 ай бұрын
Stop pushing your religion onto others.
@andykumar4103
@andykumar4103 11 ай бұрын
Even if you find one , you'll still feel void after few months. I am 44 now and single .The only perfect partner to my soul is the Holy Spirit who's with my soul until Jesus Christ bails me out of this body ( prison) and to be in the Kingdom of Father for eternity. With the Help of Holy Spirit I give a damn about the desires of my body ( flesh ) . I am already enjoying heaven. Trust me.
@Douglas_Gillette
@Douglas_Gillette Жыл бұрын
It is silly that anyone would have a need to be praised and thanked. It is completely narcissistic. This video is absurd.
@stoneylonesome4062
@stoneylonesome4062 11 ай бұрын
You really feel that way, man? Is it really that horrible to want to have a little thanks every once in a while?
@Douglas_Gillette
@Douglas_Gillette 11 ай бұрын
@@stoneylonesome4062 It is something I do not understand. I thinks it’s something to do with ego. I really do not have the need to be praised by anyone. I know it’s normal for many but it is strange to me.
@user-tg7pi6lu6v
@user-tg7pi6lu6v 8 ай бұрын
perhaps not even necessarily praised, but just acknowledged. there are few things more soul-draining than a relationship where one side is putting in all the effort and the other side could not care less. when his role feels thankless, a man who respects himself will walk away from it, and find a purpose that is more fulfilling.
@jessicale3674
@jessicale3674 10 ай бұрын
i was shared this episode by a gf, who was shared this by her bf. ok.....i am a woman. and as a woman i found this pretty laughable. 1 - agree men don't have as many close friends. my question is.... why? i would really like to understand that if a man needs close connection with other males (which i think totally makes sense and needed) .... but why suffer in silence. and not seek out those relationships they need. talk about the things you need to talk about as a man. 4 - Sorry i found this wholely offensive. Men are mostly leading thankless lives. Please, please say this to any woman, especially one that is a mother. THAT is a thankless experience. "A lot of men live thankless lives.....so need to go to a prostitute for validation?" I'm sorry, I just can't. And the endless stats of men in labor jobs....men are the majority of ALL jobs, including senior leadership. The issue is that there is not equal opportunity and representation in the work force. The garbage man does not represent the whole of men being unthanked. If there was better examples here I may be more empathetic but these were terrible examples. 5 - As a woman that works in a professional environment, I can tell you things have gotten much better for "strong women" in the professional arena however i whole heartedly disagree that assertive men are being dinged for it. To say its more socially acceptable for a woman to be assertive in the workplace, versus a man is outright inaccurate. I think what is being identified here are definite cultural problem in our modern society but the way it's presented makes it sound like - Well men are like this bc of crazy societal standards they need to live to so please understand and accept us. instead of what I think what would be a more compelling podcast of these are the issues we are faced with, here is a personal account (or few), and this is what we need and would like to see shift. Anyways, let the hate train come. But this episode did the complete opposite of its intention of helping a woman better understand (and empathize) for men.
@slyder8858
@slyder8858 9 ай бұрын
I don’t think you need to be on the hate train. As a man just learning about Connor’s work I have been listening to a few of his videos to try and get a grasp of his ideologies. I think you make valid points and I also think you have to allow room for deeper consideration of Connors points. 1- as a man who had a lot of friends, and by the numbers he gave, I guess I still do. But I do not always feel that even my closest childhood friends, men I still am in close contact with. We no longer have a lot of the same conversations that we used to have as teens/men in our twenties. We almost are all married and have kids now, so it is a lot harder to discuss the ‘personal’ side of a relationship or career or just thoughts on life, because I know we all have to back our wives first. Our families first. So there is this new wall that my closest friends are now my closest couples, and there is a new dynamic that comes with that. I think the point Conner is trying to allow women to explore is that men’s relationships with other men change and that on the whole it becomes more isolating to talk about these deeper items because now that we are ‘men’ we should have it all figured out and there shouldn’t be more to talk about. 4- I agree that everyone could use a bit more boosting and appreciation shown. I think this is just one element of modern society, that we all expect people to hate on us (look at your first line in this comment) vs experiencing praise for the positive we put out in the world. I appreciate your willingness to be open with your opinions and I hope you can see the merit in mine as well. Best
@warriorspath4757
@warriorspath4757 9 ай бұрын
Connor offered up some ideas to help us get along better in our m/f relationships. Instead of accepting this gift you chose to slap it away. You added nothing to conversation, and only brought criticism. I hope you find a kinder way to deal with people. Raising kids is a lot of work, but the joys are unmeasurable. If you find it thankless, I feel sorry that you are missing the joy. Finally, I always appreciate it when women tell me how to be a man. You have a wonderful life
@reginasemenenko148
@reginasemenenko148 6 ай бұрын
Just wondering--how can wives, sisters, aunts, grandmothers, etc help encourage the men in their lives who don't have male friends? While my hubs and I have a good relationship mostly, one day he mentioned that he didn't have anyone he could complain to. I asked him if he wanted me to find a male therapist for him, but he's not comfortable seeing a therapist.
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