I've had good luck with my DSM's, never left me stranded yet. My buddy Andrew has a 2g making 490whp and he's never had anything but his turbo blow in the 8 years since he built it, he daily drives it all summer.

Played with DSMs for 20 years now and still continuing to do so. If you build a DSM correctly, you will have no issues and they can be reliable. I've owned my 2G Eagle Talon for 20 years as I currently still have it (61k) and will not give it up. Currently I own 4 because DSM4LIFE 😉👍🏻

I have owned my dsm since 2003 and have been making over 500hp since then extremely reliably. Also I know of more Supras that have gotten crankwalk then the earlier 2g 7 bolt motors, crank walk is so over played with the haters. Also I know Civics break way more than any of my 4g powered vehicles.

I have met everyone in the pnw with a dsm and none of them have had crank walk on any engines

Crank walk is caused by not putting the 12mm bolt on the bottom back side of the transmission in causing excessive force on the main journal bearing when pushing in the clutch.

I’ve owned six and currently own a 900whp one they are a blast I’ll ALWAYS have one!

I have a 3g, and even though it was kind of the right choice as a daily driver, the looks of the 2g remain unbeatable in the eclipse world.

Still a sweet platform. Highly respected in the drag scene.

Just bought my 99 gst bout a month ago as my first car. I’m glad I this video was made 2 days ago to show dsm’s are still poppin. I’m definitely gunna be buying from you guys REAL SOON!!

I'm giving you a thumbs up just for the Crip walk and 2Gs lmfao

I got the same 1990 talon tsi i had in highschool. i got it from who i sold it to and i am just going to daily drive it. I am not chasing power, just want a nice classic car thats fun i can drive that has a system in it haha. throw back days lol

Great video, I have two 2nd gen GSXs one auto wich is fully built with the help of MAP PERFORMANCE parts and the second with a full timing kit from MAP aswell... love these cars .

Love my Galant VR4 and definitely will be doing more upgrades to it. Would love to have a 400 wheel horse daily.

Owned many of dsms since i was 15 years old. My 98 gst made close to 500. After a couple years missing it i just found a 96 gst spyder 120k bone stock one owner with a binder full of service work from mitsu for 2 thousand dollars. Paints immaculate, as well as interior. Runs like the day it was bought. My 98 crankwalked before I built it with a 6262 turbo. These are not complicated cars at all the more you dig into it the simpler it becomes. Maintenance is the key and they can be as reliable as any other car .

Actually, as a former DSM Tuner, the 4G63 was actually used not just in the Evo 8/9, but ALSO every single Lancer Evolution ever made as well as multiple generations of its predecessor; the Galant VR-4. From 1987 to 2008, over 20 years straight of this motor. It’s not just a Legendary tuner motor, it’s is probably THE most famous and ubiquitous tuner motor of all time. Other legendary motors at the time were the Nissan SR20-DET, 2JZ-GTE, and B16/18 just to name a few. This was the greatest era of tuner cars, ever.

Map should go to the shootout again. I only buy parts from vendors that still support the event. 2022 Buschur is adding multiple new classes.

I have a 1997 gsx 44,000 miles I bought it brand new for 23,456 I don’t beat on it take high test gas east coast

ayooo this has got to be the best tip video for modifying your eclipse

Hey thanks for the advice. Now I'm going to AMS performance For the parts and service.

As a previous DSM owner in order to get 500hp is not just fuel and tune. Need bigger rods, bigger turbo than the historic evo3 16g turbo, upgraded fuel system, and lastly tuned. Now I own a 01 Audi TT and man it feels like I own a DSM all over again. Just different countries and higher maintenance.

I'll keep mine OEM+ and keep on daily driving it. My $350 1g Neon though, I'll go ahead keep modifying that. Much cheaper, much lighter and... It's a sleeper.

*love my 2gb dsm, kelford 272 272 fp red with supporting mods, beautiful red color with advan rims* _ummmm, hawt_

can you make a video of how much a stock block can hold with your parts and what to buy and links so we can buy them. can you make a a few with a build motor as well with h rods and i beans rods to show what needs to be upgrade and how holds up before the motor gave out pl

GSX and Starion owner here and love em Both

Either 1g or 2g can still be modded just gotta do it wisely and carefully👍

ive found that crankwalk typically happens only after a balance shaft failure due to poor maintenance and low oil pressure there at sustained high rpms. its the auxiliary shaft that looses oil pressure and the bearing fails, sending shavings to the crank and destroying the thrust washers. ive been working with these cars since 2009. a balance shaft delete and a kiggly oil pressure regulator are the fix. this is on 94+ 7 bolts that have separate thrust washers from the main bearing. 93 7 bolts have same type of setup as 6 bolt

Watching this in 2024 got my first dsm trying to find parts for it and having difficulty finding them

I was my biggest problem with my last DSM. The car itself was fine when it had everything I could afford. Didn't have enough money for what I was trying to do. MAPerformance doesn't have too many parts for DSMs anymore. Can you broker car purchase deals?? Still need to do basic maintenance on these things too.

Maintenance! The only thing I've had fail are the small coolant lines and leak at the clutch line restricter

HELL yeah still a viable platform with tons of aftermarket support. Long Live 4G63🤘🏾

I had a 98 gsx when I was a teenager. You should have added the transmission as a con. In 8 months I had to rebuild mine twice. There is something about going into 3rd that would make it F up. Otherwise, I absolutely loved mine!

Awesome video - please re upload with no background music lol

I had a 93 Talon Tsi in college and with just basic mods I was very happy with the power it put out. All I did was 3" exhaust, fuel pump, 550cc injectors, big 16g (tdo6), and 94 octane fuel as daily driver (one gas station Sunoco in my hometown used to have that option). It handled like a boss in snow even with 2wd. Hondas were always tripping but they never beat me.

I love 4g63t 6 bolt Cordia Turbo 2100lbs, engine is built for 900hp but is only pushing 350whp but that's all it needs .

Curious as to what happened to the 4g powered rx7 you all had years ago?

You wait till the last 30 sec to kill my dream

I drove my 2g talon across the country while traveling and the only I had to replace was an axel, she was a champ

I’m from Wisconsin and I have one of nice 2g eagle talon

ive had my built 97 gsx for about 10 months now. been down just a couple of times, but it hasn't been that bad yet! lol

My 95 gsx is still boosting hard🔥🤪

I found a 1g GSX in a field on my dads friends land and he said if I get it off his land its mine so I'm currently making room for it in my garage to see how long it'll sit before it runs...

I was thinking of Engine Swapping a 2G Eclipse with an M139 Engine from Benz and pump it up to like nearly 600 HP, and I went to 4chan and ask some things about it, a user said that the Diff. of a stock GSX (4WD) can't support it. Is there an aftermarket Diff for a 2G Eclipse?

hey I love your videos , it was my project but everything in life changes so I still have it 1995 eagle talon tsi awd I'm the first and only owner what can I do to it?

I ordered some stuff from you guys not long ago. Im building a 4g64/63 head engine that is swapped into my 3000gt. The pistons look amazing thanks again!

500hp build..... more than plus on the fuel. Stock block Fp manifold Fp red Fp intake Speed density Dsm link v3 1600cc injectors 272 kelford cams 264 272 exh would be ideal if you can find a 264 intake. 450 hp pump Adjustable fuel pressure regulator A decent front mount Auto trans Bam 500 all day reliably

Lol definitely true the more hp the more maintenance but when these things are running good they make killer passes!

Lmfao did you casually just throw in "crip walking, but with 2g's" and hardly even crack a smile. Lol legend.

The most unreliable part of these cars are the owners. They do take some decent knowledge of how cars are supposed to operate and not be "bandaided" into "working". Some people *cough Honda people* are cheap and find cheap parts to put on. That's a no no. You think ebay turbos, Chinese fuel regulators, sensitive electronics like WB, IAT sensors etc you can buy at autozone you are a problem. Be about it. Stop being a peasant and learn to spend the money to but it right not twice. Good parts ain't cheap. Cheap parts aren't good.

Could you make a 3g eclipse video?

I love the 2g Eclipse

I have the 03 galant es bought it with the 4g64 sohc but just wish I could put the 4g63 back in would love to make it a mid 10s car but sadly that dream will never happen

if you got a built motor making 400hp what kind of reliability do you got if your not drag racing and mostly babing the car?

Crank walk Do you see it in the pulley ?

Do one on Honda if you haven't already

Haha i have a 91 3000gt vr4 and a 90 awd talon tsi. Mitsubishi guy here. Maintenance is key.

I own a 350 wheel hp 2g no issues besides routine maintenance

thpught i got me a keeper, blown enginge... im sad and idk if the replacement engine i got is the right one.

I have a 91 talon that'd been at over 600hp for 3 years and been completely reliable. Only parts I've had fail is wideband sensor and have had the injectors cleaned twice. On flex fuel so e85 tends to clogg injectors even with the 2150cc FIC injectors that I'm running.

As the owner of a bone stock 1990 GST that still runs great.... I know what I have broooo.

People say that they are "shit cars" and "rattle boxes" but if you don't cut corners and buy good quality parts and get a good tuner...these cars DO hold up. But it is soooo easy to cut a corner here and there and the car will run ...for a moment. But when it breaks don't blame the car. If you want a certain HP level..say 500awhp, build it to hold 7 or 800awhp. Overbuilding produces reliability. Toyota does this. This is what I am doing to mine. But there is something about these card that makes you love 'em!!!!

I daily my gs all day long would love to find a clean gsx but like you mentioned lil to expensive

Got my gst last year with 107k miles 100% stock I’m talking not even an intake filter on the puppy and I’ve put 10k miles on it this year with little problems did some small upgrades like a hks blow off valve maf translator and gm maf upgrade and I’m leaving it there

I'm still looking for a GSX. No luck. Any website recommendations?

i got a stock 420a, looking to get 180 stock and looking to turbo it to 230 to 250, gonna be bitchin if i dindt buy the wrong engine.

Hard to find AWD Trans parts these days though :(

I got some map parts on my 2g and she running 15 to20 psi stock block 200k and she my daily

crank walk tends to happen when people don't keep up with oil changes cause it wears the bearings faster

I want one and I can’t find one to buy might have to go far out of state lol

People ask me why i don't just sell my project cars, I paid 2.2k for my awd Talon about 5 yrs ago. Even with it being a bit clapped out I'd have a hard time replacing it for anything close to that only 5 yrs later, same with my 3000gt vr4, except that i shelled out for a nice one anyways.

More please

Just to correct you The Dsm and 2g eclipse was just a U.S. only car. If found over seas they was imported from the U.S.

I think an FMIC and bigger turbo is kinda needed for 500hp as well lol

Dude, CERTAIN parts are available, but things like door seals and fog lights are becoming much harder to find. I think you down played parts beyond the drivetrain.

1g gsx here, Dsm ftw

500whp combo grocerie list FP turbo ~1000cc injectors 250lph pump Fmic Tune

I'm so sick of maintaining my bone stock Talon. $15k thrown on repairs and maintenance... now it's leaking transmission oil from the rear main seal for the second time. Also recently got the fuel injectors cleaned, but age is starting to show and it's causing the car to stall occasionally. It's the ESI but I want to convert it to the TSI AWD so freaking badly.

I want to import a shell to Australia.....

Or I can turn the dsm into a Honda the 4g63T yeah it can make crazy power but it still has its problems even still it’s still more reliable then the ej20/ej25 even still just to be safe should Honda b series swap it or a h series swap,k series swap for a more reliable experience

I still own my 1990 eagle talon TSI all stock fast enough for me

Just traded my ls400 for a 97 gst spyder 5 speed big excited really o ly want like 390 wheeel

I'm realizing th gem I found, I just picked up a 1g 1992 eclipse gs manual with the only things wrong is rotors, windshield, and intake, got me home which was a hour away, oh and I paid 1000

Stock GSX still exist?

I miss my 1g with pop ups true first gen! Stupid Prius head on crashed into me totalled it out 😭😭😭😭

Also considering selling the 600hp 91 talon

Just bought my 99 gsx hatch for 3k and put 6k into it to get it started. Just needs a tune

You left out the 420a... block was designed better than the 4g no crank walk. Designed by lotus.

Bro the first gen GSX gets no love cause the 2g had all the looks and interior refinements given the time and cost.. But I remember back in like 1996ish just after the 2g came out there was a 1g gsx running 1.9 to 60mph.. Let’s be honest though.. that 4g64 platform is solid. You can boost it to hell and back or modify the top end and get it to rev to 12k lol.. Thing is the least loved and best car from back then was the vr4 galant.. we talking a 2300 lb 4 door looking like the old Sentra with the same drivetrain.. the fears were too short though.. mine topped out at 146mph.. the wrist thing they ever did though was make the gst version for 2g cars.. the torque steer was stupid.. bad as the fast and the furious was that first race actually did depict the torque steer of the gsx pretty well.. On another note. They set the bar for modern day awd super care with the torque split they had.. at the time and for some years latter all other awd cars were 50/50 or 40/60 while Mitsubishi was 20/80 (maybe 30/70 can’t remember exactly) but they were rwd biased with a little front wheel assistance.

Who don't got a homie that has or hasn't had one? None. My homie keeps his 1g awd 90 talon clean cause it's reliable. That 3g was stylized right and some fun til the governor kicks in but not as fun as a 2g.

Never selling my 98’ awd tsi auto in white 😎

What if I got a 420a :(

Glass transmissions was missed

I got one for 1000 and it runs

Who's got a 91-94 turbo ecu they want to let go to get my car up and running again?? Brad Gary, I own your old 91

Make sure it has a 4g63 is step one

So hard to find decent ones that weren't riced/trashed to death nowadays

My first car and second and third lol

Uh the 🔻 fuel button and the ➕ boost button is what makes hp and blows shit up

Under rated? Only among people that don’t actually go to track regularly.

ITS a devil streets bro.cool stuff.so eclipes.

Jdm??