Marantz Model 50 true analog amplifier

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The Hans Beekhuyzen Channel

The Hans Beekhuyzen Channel

Күн бұрын

Recently Marantz introduced the Model 50 series amplifier and digital player. Special since the amp is purely analog while the digital player combines cd playing, streaming and DAC functionality. In this video we look at the amp.
Contents of this video
00:00 - Introduction
00:22 - Start of program
01:46 - The front
02:47 - The rear
03:49 - The inside
07:23 - In use
08:28 - How tested #1
09:47 - Sound quality #1
10:36 - How tested #2
11:47 - Sound quality #2
12:48 - The wrap
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@johnmermigas
@johnmermigas 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Hans another great report, John from NY
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
Thanks
@Kowinaida
@Kowinaida 8 ай бұрын
A very favourable review of this modest amp. Thanks Hans.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
👍🏼
@markvandenberg4606
@markvandenberg4606 4 ай бұрын
Bought one based on your review among a few others. Thanks for doing such a thorough job on this one, as it’s slim pickings otherwise in terms of reviews out there! And you certainly weren’t lying. I’ve been running it in for some six hours now and got hints of where this was going from the first second. Beautiful amp and digging deep enough that I won’t be needing a subwoofer in my space. Hartelijk dank!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@lsaideOK
@lsaideOK 8 ай бұрын
Wow! What a positive review of this amplifier. Surprising and delightful. This and the 50n (pending your review) may make a marvelous upgrade to my current system. A little over my allotted budget but the significant improvements may be worth the hit to my bank account.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@zubsero73
@zubsero73 8 ай бұрын
Nice explanation of the internals!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
🙏🏻
@cobar5342
@cobar5342 8 ай бұрын
Great review of a beautiful amp
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
🙏
@jhitbgp1
@jhitbgp1 4 ай бұрын
Very good review - thanks for the insights!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 ай бұрын
🙏🏻
@johnfoster2592
@johnfoster2592 8 ай бұрын
Hans, this is a great review! Thank you. We have entered a new generation of amplifiers in the middle price range, and they are truly rivaling the hi end. Maybe a new frontier of hi end will arrive too.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
Sounds great!
@jonathanmoore8886
@jonathanmoore8886 8 ай бұрын
Bob's your uncle, nice. Great review. Always been a fan of Marantz
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
Cool, thanks!
@marioplus321
@marioplus321 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jasondevers
@jasondevers 5 ай бұрын
What a fantastic review and great format. Thank you!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 ай бұрын
🙏🙏
@JaqUkto
@JaqUkto 8 ай бұрын
Nice as usual! If not the depth dimension I would consider this apparatus, but I’m limited by 32 cm.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
Fair enough!
@mudover11
@mudover11 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
Thank you
@simonbeasley989
@simonbeasley989 8 ай бұрын
Bought one! It looks, feels and sounds very nice! I really appreciated you showing the interior, especially the effort on the phono stage. I didn't want the 40n or 30n because streaming apps will become obsolete. It would be nice to own this beast of an amplifier for 15 or 20 years or longer, and it would have been perfectly relevant 50 years ago. But in 10 years would HEOS still work, and could you get a compatible phone to control it?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
👍🏼
@johnnyhickman6798
@johnnyhickman6798 8 ай бұрын
Thanks
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
🙏🏽
@leonsam12
@leonsam12 6 ай бұрын
I was looking at the PM8006, and it sounds like I should be looking at this unit according to your review🤔🤔
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 6 ай бұрын
Agreed
@yekker2245
@yekker2245 Ай бұрын
Me too. Looks like the 8006 isn’t being made anymore. This amp looks like what I’m after.
@leonsam12
@leonsam12 Ай бұрын
@@yekker2245 yeah and great for home theater is what I’m thinking as well, they say in “pure direct” mode it plays a little more treble and that’s exactly what my speakers need, looks like they are still available on Amazon 👍
@paymantavasoly3262
@paymantavasoly3262 8 ай бұрын
Dear Hans, I leave this comment knowing that I'm writing off the topic of this video, but as it's the latest video uploaded, I thought the chances were higher for your reply. I'm an audio engineer and a studio guy, I use a pci audio interface and a pc for daily music production. I'm aware of how clean power supplies can be beneficial in audio quality, There are some solutions for usb interfaces as you have been mentioning in your previous videos, I wonder if there are practical solutions to improve a studio setup which is usually more complicated than a listening setup. Thank you for your wonderful channel, and thanks for sharing your priceless experience and knowledge.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
Sorry but I lack the time to do personal advice.
@fofocho71
@fofocho71 8 ай бұрын
Great review, as usual. Now I am connecting my Eversolo DMP-A6 directly to my power amp (NAD C275bee). Do you think it would be an improvement to connect the DMP A6 to a Marantz Model 50 (which I do not own)? Thanks
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
It should
@ashred9665
@ashred9665 8 ай бұрын
...the Model 50 is a slight update (but upgrade?) of the truly fantastic PM8006, which was available for a bit less. If you can get it still, why not? Both are pure analog units And have excellent phono stages.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
I have the Ken Ishiwata upgraded KI Pearl Lite version of the PM8006 and model 50 was clearly better sounding. So I disagree with you.
@dripslobber
@dripslobber 8 ай бұрын
My music listening is an Eversolo DMP-A6 into a Denafrips Aeres II into a Yamaha RX-750 AVR in Pure Direct mode for stereo listening with Q Acoustics Concept 50 speakers. What would be your recommendation for the next upgrade on this system? Thanks for any help.
@karltodd2518
@karltodd2518 8 ай бұрын
Just my opinion and experience. Changing from a AV amp to a dedicated stereo amp was a huge leap forward in performance. Dynamics, engaging sound with a believable sound stage, low noise floor too! which improved transparency. Try a home loan from a good Dealer ship. Perhaps your av amp is very good, I've not heard any of the new breed.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
What do you think?
@dripslobber
@dripslobber 8 ай бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel I guess I should’ve stated this is a home theater 5.1 / music system. Music 65% of the day and the balance of evening tv. I was thinking of a stereo into the avr but unsure of the results.
@cvee2614
@cvee2614 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great review Hans. Curious, do you know if the Marantz Model 50 uses standard junction transistors or MOSFET type for output stage?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 3 ай бұрын
I don't know by head and the review sample is already returned to the manufacturer. Sorry.
@MrWindmad
@MrWindmad 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic, but to pair with an Eversolo DMP-A6 ME, I believe a power amp is a wiser choice since I don’t pay for a preamp twice. Maybe the preamp section in this is superior to that in DMP-A6 ME at least?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
Well if you don't need an analog pre-amp, you are right. But if you still use a turntable, that needs an analog pre-amp.
@cruzingrsx4484
@cruzingrsx4484 8 ай бұрын
I have the Marantz PM8006 and the internals seem kind of similar, I wonder how much of a difference in sound quality between them? Thanks for sharing your opinion and years of expertise with us Sir.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
A I told in the video I own the PM KI Pearl Lite which I think is the 8006 upgraded by Ken Ishiwata. I like the Model 50 better.
@kirkaparty4143
@kirkaparty4143 8 ай бұрын
I upgraded from 8006 to the Model 40n (same amp section as Model 50 I believe). Model 40n seems to have about 30% more (45amp vs 65 amps with larger transformer ) power, a bit more neutral and natural, and bigger soundstage. 8006 had a bit of hard time with Buchardt s400ii and KEFs at high volumes, not so with Model 40n. This is a great amp.
@marcdesjardins3218
@marcdesjardins3218 8 ай бұрын
Based on Marantz (Canada), viewer's might want to know this detail. Q: How does the sound of the MODEL 50 compares to the sound of the MODEL 40n given the same source? A: (Marantz Response) We haven't designed the two integrated amplifiers to have different sonic characteristics from each other necessarily. The only difference you might hear between the two (depending on the speakers being used) is the Model 40n's ability to drive a wider range of speaker load, as it has a more advanced power amplifier stage. What this means is, if your speakers have an easy load, you are unlikely to hear a difference between the Model 40n and the Model 50. If you have speakers with a more challenging load, the Model 40n is better equipped to handle such speaker demands, providing a fuller, more open sonic delivery - especially with livelier source content. So for those who don't need a CD player and consider saving a considerable amount of money.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
I seriously doubt this. If you compare the inside of both amps, you will see they are -- especially where the power supply is concerned - about identical. It also differs from what the European technical people have told me and what I have heard. For me the amps are equal while the streaming function of the CD50n is clearly better than that of the Model 40n.
@marcdesjardins3218
@marcdesjardins3218 8 ай бұрын
Maybe it’s the Made in Japan factor vs. Made in Vietnam lol (but for me I feel prouder w/ the Japan stock, like my father’s old gear) :)
@SarcoZQ
@SarcoZQ 6 ай бұрын
The 50 & 50n is weirdly placed in terms of naming and performance. Going by the name (lower = Better) the combination of the Model 40n + CD60 (combined MSRP of €3500) should perform better than the Model 50 + CD50n (MSRP €3600). But going by sound quality, I prefer the Model 50 set. Without a need for a CD player and going by ease of use; the Model 40n is a better buy.
@nickolaymiltenov
@nickolaymiltenov 8 ай бұрын
Hello. I have the following question which might not be much related with this video but i would appreciate if you answer me. So the question is may i use a preamp's balanced (XLR) and unbalanced(RCA) outputs simultaneously to provide signal to two different amplifiers considering that balanced output will go to a power amplifier(bass section) and the unbalanced will go to an integrated amp(mids and highs). I want to make a bi-amping for my speakers in order to achieve more power, but i don't know if it is safe for the preamp and if this double preamplification wouldn't cause audible signal delay in mid and high section. Or i better use the balanced and unbalanced outputs of the cd player simultaneously but in such case is there any hazard for the cd player?🤔
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
There is no harm in using both XLR and RCA outputs. But depending on the design there might indeed be another amplifier stage in between the one and the other. That might give a small delay but a bigger risk is that the phase is reversed.
@nickolaymiltenov
@nickolaymiltenov 8 ай бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thank you. Couldn't reversed phase be fixed by simple loudspeaker cable shifting?
@almir-lq9qw
@almir-lq9qw 7 ай бұрын
How would this compare to yamaha as-1200? I am currently shopping for integrated amp.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 6 ай бұрын
I have not reviewed the AS-1200. You find my reviews of amplifiers between € 1000 and € 2000 here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hNuSd7akt5zKgGQ.html&pp=gAQBiAQB
@dantekh1
@dantekh1 8 ай бұрын
Considering this amp as a pair for Dali Rubicon 6. Is it enough for these speakers? I like Marantz sound signature (I own pm6006 with Oberon 5), so Marantz should be a prior option i think
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
I have no hands on experience with the Rubicon 5s but I would be surprised if the Model 50 would not sound great with them.
@alexismaenhout7908
@alexismaenhout7908 6 ай бұрын
I use PM8006 with Rubicon 6 and it works fine. So I assume this new model 50 will be fine too.
@kelseyhorne2066
@kelseyhorne2066 8 ай бұрын
Love this review!!! If I have a nice chord dac am I better at going with the 50 rather than the 40n? heard the 40n dac is just okay
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
That depends on what Chord DAC and what streamer.
@kelseyhorne2066
@kelseyhorne2066 8 ай бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel chord 2Qute and a Cambridge mxn10 streamer. Still not sure ? Thank you for the help
@kelseyhorne2066
@kelseyhorne2066 8 ай бұрын
Also just wondering given you have reviewed both the 40n and the 50. How is the build quality between the two? Thank you 🙏 love the reviews you make
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
it's equal
@faustinoyu3394
@faustinoyu3394 6 ай бұрын
hi Hans , can these have enough power my Focal Aria 926 ? my music is jazz and edm . also are these HI-CURRENT amplifier? thanks and more power
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 6 ай бұрын
'High power' is a nondescript term. Yes, it is an amp that can deliver more current than others in its class. If that is enough for your loudspeakers, I can't say. I have no hands on experience with them.
@faustinoyu3394
@faustinoyu3394 6 ай бұрын
thanks so much for the reply and more power to your channel , greetings from the Philippines :) Maraming Salamat Po@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@dano1672
@dano1672 6 ай бұрын
Hello Hans, in respect of sound ,this amp vs model30?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 6 ай бұрын
See my reviews
@harrisedgar
@harrisedgar 6 ай бұрын
Hello Hans, great video as usual...!!! There's one thing to add to your final comments, that is that the ARCAM SA30 is now heavily discounted in price ($1,980 USD). Which makes it very attractive. Any thoughts on that matter?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@ricstars95
@ricstars95 14 күн бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel do hans, which one has superior sound/musicality?
@amormagister
@amormagister 3 ай бұрын
Would the B&W 606s2 speakers play well with this amp?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 3 ай бұрын
I haven’t tried the B&W so I can’t say. Sorry
@9obsydian1000
@9obsydian1000 2 ай бұрын
Will the ARIA 936 loudspeakers be too large for this amplifier?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 ай бұрын
I have no experience with this loudspeaker so I can't say.
@xstensl8823
@xstensl8823 8 ай бұрын
perhaps Marantz has got its magic back after 50 years tough competition at that price point
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
I don’t know if they were away. But if, they’re surely back.
@xstensl8823
@xstensl8823 8 ай бұрын
the Marantz amplifiers like the 8B in the early 60's are well regarded and are now legendary. sell for many thousands used.@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@hermannschmidt9788
@hermannschmidt9788 8 ай бұрын
The standby pwr supply looks very linear to me. Not an SMPS.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
As said in the video, only the transformer is visible, the rest of the power supplies are not visible
@spranto
@spranto 7 ай бұрын
Hi Hans thank you again for another great review. When you mention that the speaker pairing should be more budget conscious, than the ones on your setup 2, what are your top 3 suggestions regarding pairing with this amp?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 7 ай бұрын
I don't do speaker reviews so I would be a poor source.
@_UnknownEntity
@_UnknownEntity 8 ай бұрын
It's not a balanced output, so what's the push pull config doing there?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
I’m not the designer so I can’t say. But it must have a purpose for it costs money.
@_UnknownEntity
@_UnknownEntity 8 ай бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel ok. Would it need a certain type of speaker to pair with?
@scubacollie2083
@scubacollie2083 7 ай бұрын
Hi Hans great review. I've just returned the PM12SE due to it not sounding as good as my PM50 from 1991! Is this one likely to be better than my PM50? I believe it may have been due to the PM12SE being a D Class.....also will this Model 50 run my Monitor Audio Silver 500's 7th Gen?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 7 ай бұрын
I don't know your PM50 nor your Monitor Audios but I would be surprised if the Model 50 wouldn't produce a higher sound quality.
@JohnSmith-zl8rz
@JohnSmith-zl8rz 8 ай бұрын
CD60 Vs CD50 for CD only? I mean CDs can sounds better on the 60?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
That's a prejudice. Actually, streamers have an easier job getting the bits unharmed and on time to the DAC. So I fully disagree with you. I haven't used a CD-player for years now.
@JohnSmith-zl8rz
@JohnSmith-zl8rz 8 ай бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel how do you disagree with me, if I just make a question, I never set a statement. I see you up a new video of the CD50.
@redstarwraith
@redstarwraith 8 ай бұрын
I think you confused your "A" and "B" speaker inputs?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
did I?
@redstarwraith
@redstarwraith 8 ай бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel I believe you highlighted one while saying it was the other. But I'm just being overly pedantic.
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